MercoPress. South Atlantic News Agency
Argentina denies ‘political opportunism’ in Malvinas sovereignty-claim campaign
The Argentine government said that the Malvinas Islands sovereignty claim is “not political opportunism” or geared “to remove other issues from the country’s political agenda” and is coherent with the political and ideological thinking of both Presidents Cristina Fernandez and her late husband and former president Nestor Kirchner. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesWell said CFK and Timerman, you tell them who started to blockade who first, and if rights to self determination get in the way ask them whyniwn't UK giving this people their rights in UK as they all claim to be british. Does USA give land to mexican illegal aliens found in Texas???? Why should brits be treated any different?? This is how the modern world work there is no room for corruption or favoritism.
Apr 10th, 2012 - 03:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0i think we really need to find out direct from the UN if a right of every person in every country no matter of race, colour or creed, the right to self determination apply to Every person in every country
Apr 10th, 2012 - 03:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“He added that the “Malvinas question is an issue of territorial integrity and not of self-determination since the UN does not recognize the rights of the residents of the Islands” to determine on that field.”
Apr 10th, 2012 - 04:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The UN has NEVER stated the islanders doe not have the right to self determination.
”Timerman also argued that the Malvinas “don’t belong to Galtieri (the military dictator who ordered the invasion of the Falklands in 1982), and the conflict did not start with the 1982 war. It’s a historic process that began in 1833 with the British invasion to the archipelago. Today, we use the weapons of peace of the 21st century to resolve a 19th century colonial conflict.”
It may have begun in 1833 for Argentina, but it began in 1765 for the UK.
Do they not get bored of spouting the same rubbish all the time?
@3 Its a great distraction for them
Apr 10th, 2012 - 04:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Britain had settled the islands before Argentinian territory included any of Patagonia”
“British point of view, self-determination for a long-established population is a more important factor than proximity”
This diatribe by the usual suspects of Argentina just highlights the amount of lies and obfurscation that these people are capable off.
Apr 10th, 2012 - 04:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is quite clear that the Mad Bitch is capable of destroying any vestige of respect that Argentina may have had in the world before the Peronistas, starting with the fabled cock-eyed Nestor and continued by the rest of his pack.
FatBoy has started well with his malevolent look inherited from his father but has trumped even his old man by 'misplacing' (probably in his own bank) the 2.1Bn USD missing from the state flag carrier.
And the world is supposed to believe these wanabee gangsters that all this crap has nothing to do with political opportunism? Ha, ha, ha.
The Falklands has been a political tool for The Argentines for decades, it is not in their interest too settle the issue on The Falklands as it is extremely likely too go badly for them, a reliable political tool which they could ill afford to lose. Not many governments can boast that their own vice president looks likely to be prosecuted for embezzlement, Another reason for deflection you say?? now thats real political opportunism
Apr 10th, 2012 - 04:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“There is not a single country that recognizes that the UK has rights over the Islands”.
Apr 10th, 2012 - 04:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Quite true.
“The attitude of President Cristina Fernandez in defence of these sovereignty principles is not political opportunism or a specific political need, but rather an expression of political and ideological coherence” Sounds like it was published by the North Korean news service...
Apr 10th, 2012 - 04:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Kirchnerism equals the malodorous mix of corruption, fascism and a whisper of communism with a strategy of undermining the Argentinean democratic system. Whenever someone publicizes that the inflation rate is higher than official government rates, they are punished. When the economy gets really bad, time to blame your troubles on the British, the IMF, Spanish, Brazilians…
Even with high commodity prices, economists expect the Argentine economy to tank in the third or fourth quarter with the Peso devalued. We doubt that Venezuela will help prop up Christina anymore, so what will they do? They already have started increasing trade protectionist practices witch are de-facto tariffs. Nationalizing foreign holdings, such as YPF will only be a stopgap.
I still always find it hilarious that they spout this rubbish, and expect people around the world to believe them.
Apr 10th, 2012 - 04:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And stating that the founding and most important principle of the UN, the 'Right to Self- determination' applies to approximately 7 billion people, except the 3,000 Falkland Islanders. Absolute lunacy.
As always this is mean for the domestic audience, no doubt the UN GA will be annoyed at Argentina for 'talking bollocks' about their most important 'enshrined' principle.
If the UN GA had any sense they'd immediately release a statement refuting Argentina's absurd statement.
'Gotcha'
Apr 10th, 2012 - 04:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.”
With all the Iran-focused war-drums beating now, one might seriously doubt any claim by Argentine officials that the world has turned its attention to the Falklands. Hopefully, the FCO knows whats going on and is doing its utmost to defend the interests of Falkland Islanders and Britain itself. There are ample cases where the UN needs to be ignored - Israel sure knows that, but in other issues as well. “De-colonizing” the Falklands just doesn't relate to a community that is NOT a colony.
Apr 10th, 2012 - 05:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As for the Louis Vernet, its easy to see his real contribution to Falklands History in the Getting it Right... doc, but not significant support for Argentine claims:
http://www.britishempire.co.uk/maproom/falkland/gettingitright.pdf
Once again intended primarily for internal consumption, interesting how the rhetoric is becoming more and more fanciful now, and the evident need to refute Brit gov statements where they clearly hurt.
Apr 10th, 2012 - 05:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In the absence of anything genuine to say in response, re-arrange the original statement to suit. Not the actions of people who know they have any sort of a case.
Internally this kind of bolloxs still flies, but even there eventually it will become obvious it doesn’t anywhere else.
@7 You are absolutely correct when you say there isn't a single country that supports the UK.
Apr 10th, 2012 - 05:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The EU, representing 27 member states, recognises the islands as a British Overseas Territory.
The Commonwealth, representing 54 member states, also recognise the islands as a BOT.
So you're right. There isn't a SINGLE country that supports the UK, there are MANY. So I'd like to take the opportunity to congratulate you for having the courage to highlight the falsehoods your so called 'politicians' insist on spouting every chance they get. Well done sir!
“Malvinas has become a global issue, all the world is speaking of Malvinas, and there is not a single country that recognizes that the UK has rights over the Islands”.
Apr 10th, 2012 - 05:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Having done a quick check on British, French, Spanish, Australian, Canadian, ans several South American on-line newspapers I can state categorically that “Malvinas” is not being spoken about by anyone except Argentine newspapers.
The rest of the quote is answered by Lou Spoo.
Ohhh the Argies want to talk. Well we don't and there is nothing Argentina can do to make us so as well as talking to themselves they might as well go and fuck themselves as well.
Apr 10th, 2012 - 05:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hahahaha. Where to start :) god so much bullshit i don't know?
Apr 10th, 2012 - 05:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The British PM is not ignorant. The current Argentinian Government is ignorant of historical facts and is feeding their citizens with state propaganda to side-step real political issues affecting Argentina.
Apr 10th, 2012 - 05:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I will have to side with tha argie haters on this one, this guy is spewing hackneyed lines. I don't know in Buenos Aires, but in the west of Argentina we are tired of the Falklands and all we want is to forget about the UK, Europe, the USA, and Latin America. We want isolationism that's all.
Apr 10th, 2012 - 06:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@6 Do you think Boudou will be prosecuted? Prosecutor-General Righi is stepping down today (rumoured) and will be replaced by someone chosen specifically by the Government.
Apr 10th, 2012 - 06:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“There is not a single country that recognizes that the UK has rights over the Islands”.
Apr 10th, 2012 - 06:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Bloody Hell, I thought Pocklington was the only country that recognizes that colony.
http://www.pocklingtonpost.co.uk/community/nostalgia/pocklington_mayor_s_falkland_islands_trip_1_3530365
@7 - It seems you live in the same comical dreamworld as the Argentine politicians.
Apr 10th, 2012 - 06:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“There is not a single country that recognizes that the UK has rights over the Islands”.
Are all of the EU countries and UN somehow excluded from your reality? Ever heard of the Lisbon treaty?
Or are we going to carry on living in the warped vision of the world the Argentine government and some of the population live in?
@1 “This is how the modern world work there is no room for corruption or favoritism.” Possibly true up to a point. On the other hand, wasn't Gaddafi's Libya corrupt? And how much of South America supported Gaddafi?
Apr 10th, 2012 - 06:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@7 Actually, there are nearly 200 countries that recognise that the UK has rights over the Islands. At the very least because the United Nations recognises the UK as the lawful Administering Authority. How come, in 1982, the UN ordered argieland to leave? It didn't order the UK to leave! Moreover, the Islanders feel the same way.
Regrettably for argieland, the UK has seen “The Big Lie” before. “The great masses will more easily fall victim to a big lie than to a small one” said Hitler. It's fairly easy to see that a peronist regime with it's built-in admiration for nazism would also want to employ “The Big Lie”.
@20
Apr 10th, 2012 - 07:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Marcos
You obviously believe in the propaganda war and not the truth. The British were on the islands a long time before Argentina decided to 'tinker with history'.
Poor fellow.
@13 excellent point
Apr 10th, 2012 - 07:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0'@7 You are absolutely correct when you say there isn't a single country that supports the UK.
The EU, representing 27 member states, recognises the islands as a British Overseas Territory.
The Commonwealth, representing 54 member states, also recognise the islands as a BOT.
So you're right. There isn't a SINGLE country that supports the UK, there are MANY. So I'd like to take the opportunity to congratulate you for having the courage to highlight the falsehoods your so called 'politicians' insist on spouting every chance they get. Well done sir!'
It's just the same shit on a different day. It's getting tedious now isn't there something more interesting we can shoot down in flames?
Apr 10th, 2012 - 08:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Before 1850, your excuses are non existent,
Apr 10th, 2012 - 08:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The agreement of 1850 invalidates all other agreements, [does it not?]
And the illegal war, destroys any hope of argentine false claims,
So it really boils down to whenever you [personally] believe in freedom and democracy,
Or constraints and dictatorship,
You cannot sit on the fence,
Democracy =British Falklands,
Dictatorship = argentine Malvinas,
anything else is indocrination .
@25 F-F-F
Apr 10th, 2012 - 09:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thought I'd oblige, but the only Argentina story on the BBC LatAm page is the rather disturbing case of a “stillborn” baby being found breathing by the father in the Perrando city morgue, twelve hours after being declared dead.
@27 Rufus (#)
Apr 10th, 2012 - 11:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Apr 10th, 2012 - 09:43 pm
Bloody hell! The baby survived I hope?
Finally former cabinet chief and currently Senator Anibal Fernandez again bashed British PM David Cameron calling him ‘quite ignorant’ and insisted that “there is not a single country in the world that recognizes that the UK has rights over the Islands”.
Apr 11th, 2012 - 03:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0REALLY. Has anyone asked Canada, Australia and New Zealand about this? France quite evidently backs Britain's claim, as does the ENTIRE EU via the Lisbon Treaty. They even hold the Islanders subject to some EU laws! So tell me, why would these laws apply to people who are supposedly not even part of the EU?
Fortunately “Malvinas has become a global issue, all the world is speaking of Malvinas, and there is not a single country that recognizes that the UK has rights over the Islands”.
THIS is the funnies part of the entire article. All the world??? hahahahahahahahahahahhahhahahahha. I can safely speak for the US Media when I say, NOBODY is covering this. People honestly do not care about Argentina's complaining outside the Chavezsphere. It is laughable that this clown thinks Argentina is at the center of diplomatic discussion at the moment.
Advice for Argentina: If you TRULY want to be the center of attention, you'll have to follow Syria or Iran by example. Start shelling Buenos Aires, or build a nuclear weapon, because crying over some islands that were never yours is not going to cut it. The world honestly does not care about your country, and most average people probably couldn't point it out on a map. You hold the same international importance as Tajikistan, or Lesotho. I expected better from Parrilli... oh, wait... no I didn't.
This didn't begin in 1833. It began in 1765. It ended in 1833.
Apr 11th, 2012 - 05:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0And just what did you all expect from Argentina, a repeat performance of course.......for your viewing pleasure:
Apr 11th, 2012 - 06:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyPC0SD0PGw
www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTBAjfgHLyk&feature=relmfu
www.youtube.com/watch?v=azwWSN2pukk
www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSvQw00SV-c
www.ripoffreport.com/government-worker/argentina-tourists-m/argentina-tourists-murdered-l-33f51.htm
www.ripoffreport.com/federal-government/cristina-kirchner/cristina-kirchner-cristina-kir-dc9b0.htm
Gracias Cristina y Nestor.......oh and thanks too Boudou!!
@ Stefan (29)
Apr 11th, 2012 - 06:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0I'd imagine Australia will be backing Britain all the way, even though Argentina crying over the Falklands is pretty much a non event in mainstream Australian media.
As a point of interest, in the April - May 2012 edition of the 'The Navy' (Magazine of the Navy League of Australia), the very first article was titled “1982 Revisited - Opportunities For Australia”. Talked about the history of the Falkland Islands (i.e. Britain first laid claim to them in 1765) and the numerous hostile acts Argentina has been conducting against the Islands. The ending few paragraphs were very interesting,, essentially saying that Australia should consider buying/refining Falkland Islands oil as the Middle East is going to hell in a hand basket, and that as ties between Britain and Australia's armed forces are growing, perhaps there could be joint exercises and Australian ship visits in the Falklands, as the Islands are closer to Australia than Britain itself.
Not sure if it will ever happen (though one can hope). I wonder how the Argentinians would react?
@26 FFF
Apr 11th, 2012 - 07:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0Apparently she is in good health, but they're keeping her in for observation.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-17670381
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-17670381
@33 Rufus (#)
Apr 11th, 2012 - 07:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0Apr 11th, 2012 - 07:21 am
Good news!
why?Because It is Argentina state policy.
Apr 11th, 2012 - 10:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0@32 JimLad,
Apr 11th, 2012 - 11:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0Who cares how they would react. They're fools anyway.
We do not tell them, how to run their country,,
Apr 11th, 2012 - 05:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and they should mind theire own business on ours.
@32 - I can tell you EXACTLY how they would react.
Apr 11th, 2012 - 08:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“JAJAJAJAJAJA ISLAS MALVINAS! JAJAJA BRITISH PIRATES! JAJAJAJA AUSTRALIAN INVADERS! JAJAJA!”
It will then descend into foaming at the mouth
Rabid ////rabies///
Apr 11th, 2012 - 09:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As long as they are about 300 miles away,
We are safe
As long as the wind blows to the west, we're not breathing their second hand air! lol
Apr 12th, 2012 - 09:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0it's all rehashed bollocks, repeated over and over and over and over... ad nauseum.
Apr 13th, 2012 - 02:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Surely these Argtards would realise that the UK recognises it's own sovereignty over the islands, making that 'not a single country' a statement of complete arse. That's before considering the EU countries.
They're all just swimming in repeated lies. But I guess that's just life for Argtards.
Interesting to observe their behaviour though.
These species are most uncooperative, are they not?
Apr 13th, 2012 - 05:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It must a genetic failure of the DNA process they use,
Also NOT being British turnips, does not help ,
Ha ha .
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