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Argentine president avoids YPF and talks about chocolates and beef export levies

Friday, April 13th 2012 - 07:33 UTC
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On the day Argentina was expected to make a major announcement referred to the oil industry and the ongoing dispute with Spain’s Repsol-YPF oil and gas corporation, president Cristina Fernandez surprised everybody by talking about chocolates, the yerba infusion and meat export taxes. Read full article

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  • GreekYoghurt

    “These are chocolates that we've started producing again in Argentina,” said the president.

    Stuff your face full of them, hag. We're not going to be buying them, and that's for sure.

    Apr 13th, 2012 - 08:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Idlehands

    CFKs government does appear to be in the final stages of an addicted gambler that keeps trying to cover their losses by doubling up. More and more draconian laws will not create an environment for the economy to flourish.

    Who's ever heard of a government confiscating tea? Is that a strategic resource in Argentina or are they looking for a good excuse to simply steal some?

    Apr 13th, 2012 - 08:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    And all because the lady loves milk tray ?

    Apr 13th, 2012 - 10:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @3 She looks more like a chocolate fountain girl.

    Apr 13th, 2012 - 10:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    ha ha

    Apr 13th, 2012 - 10:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Beef

    Argie chocolates. Call me a snob but i would prefer some Belgian boutique confectionary washed down with a nice glass of bubbly. Perhaps just some Godiva if I am planning on slumming it.

    Apr 13th, 2012 - 11:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    1 GreekYoghurt

    Ah, there you are!!

    I have been missing your posts of late and thought for one horrible second that you had become bored with the comments / stories on this website. Now looking at this one, I can see that I was wrong......

    Apr 13th, 2012 - 12:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troneas

    @7. Greek yoghurt doesn't offer anything but whines and attacks to Argentina and its president.

    I miss the dissenting comments of people like RedHoyt who at least had a point of view.

    As of late, its all vicious attacks and people repeating “self-determination” like an old record.

    Apr 13th, 2012 - 12:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    Wonder how she's going to produce “chocolates” when the factories don't have any power? Perhaps argies across the cuntry will see “chocolate” days, when there is no “energy” for domestic heating, lighting or power so she can produce some chocolates. Anybody in argieland except members of the government got a freezer? Don't forget to replace the contents with CHOCOLATE! It may melt but it won't go off, breed maggots and kill your kids. Yummy, yummy, yummy, maggots. The new argie staple diet. So-called because they have to be stapled down to their (government-owned) rotting floorboards with their mouths stapled open and a staple (nail) gun pointed at their throat to induce them to swallow. The rectal area is also stapled shut to ensure proper enjoyment.

    Apr 13th, 2012 - 12:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    “Who's ever heard of a government confiscating tea?” There are several historical examples, generally during a major war, but her proposal of applying the Supply Law which enables the government to confiscate the product, is comical. Yerba mate price controls will be as successful as they are in Venezuela.

    Apr 13th, 2012 - 12:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Simon68

    The best chocolates made in Argentina are “Mamusia” chocolates made in San Martín de Los Andes, Neuquén. They have been making chocolates for the last 45 years so this is a bit of non news.

    Apr 13th, 2012 - 01:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    I wonder if she realizes you can't grow anything in a drought? So she is going to fine the companies until they are bankrupt like she did with the o/g , electricity, train, airlines, etc etc etc.
    Gosh she is dumb.
    Price controls eventually bring empty shelves , how do they not understand this simple concept?

    Apr 13th, 2012 - 01:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brit Bob

    A s sure as eggs are eggs, she'll soon turn on the Brits again just to sidetrack the gullible Argentinian public.

    Apr 13th, 2012 - 01:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    this is hilarious... just like they have a law that enshrines overt expansionism, they also have a law that enshrines theft.

    A complete moral vacuum of a country.

    Apr 13th, 2012 - 01:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pirat-Hunter

    Confiscated tea taste much better then the regular tea, in 2001 Argentina had to learn to confiscate from the bank our own money and now we have to extend our work on other industries like petroleum and in this case yerba mate.

    Apr 13th, 2012 - 02:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    25. Yeah they confiscated U$ and replaced them with 4/1 pesos , you got 3/4 less wealth with an accounting procedure. Viva K!

    (oops now 5/1 and quickly going to 6/1)

    Apr 13th, 2012 - 02:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @16 you'd be better off with chocolates than the pesos. At least you can eat the chocolates, so they have some dietary value, even if Argchoc does officially taste like rat-excreta (or so i'm reliably informed)

    Apr 13th, 2012 - 02:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pirat-Hunter

    #16 does USA or UK industries trade in Argentine pesos?? What will happen to UK or USA if they did?? Let me guess it woukd be impossible for them to locally control their economies and most Argentines working class get payed in pesos, UK and Spain have to take the back sit in this ride and let Argentine's execute their own self detemination, the times when Spain and UK dictated to a colony is over and all monarchyes have to learn to respect nations and their civilians.

    Apr 13th, 2012 - 03:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tobers

    They are utterly inept. And corrrupt. They just do whatever takes their fancy.

    Why do Argentines fall for/tolerate this? It seems the rich and middle class hate her and her government and yet they dont offer anything better! Man up Argentina!! Eat some humble pie and look to building a more secure and prosperous future. Brasil on your doorstep , tho admittedly not perfect, is showing you how things could be better.

    Learn and grow!!!

    Apr 13th, 2012 - 04:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pirat-Hunter

    Argentine chocolate might be a good industry to invest in, last time I checked chocolate was still one of the most expensive item worldwide .

    Apr 13th, 2012 - 05:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Simon68

    Tobers:

    The rich and the middle class in Argentina are enormously outnumbered by the poor who deènd almost totally on the Kirchner Government for their income (subsidies, bought votes, etc.) In this situation the only remedy is for the economic disaster to be so great that even the famous 54% realize that the end has come and vote for someone who could bring us back into the real world.

    Apr 13th, 2012 - 05:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    perhaps she wants a boston tea party,
    or a chocolate fudge,?
    she is going to end up with an easter bunny, shitting jelly beans .

    Apr 13th, 2012 - 06:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britninja

    Mmm Argentinian choccies with soft centre flavours like 'bitter failure', 'rich botox' and 'nutty lunatic'.

    Apr 13th, 2012 - 06:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • tobias

    @19

    Argentines do not want to be part of the world system, which is collapsing before your own eyes. Get it? We rather take our chances on our own (even if do not like CFK), than with having to deal with countries like yours (or any other). Argentina may not be trustworthy, but at least is consistent.

    Your countries on the other hand are LESS trustworthy, because you pretend to be good international players, but do nothing but backstabbing behind the scenes. No thank you. We don't want nothing to do with the UK, Europe, US, etc.

    Apr 13th, 2012 - 06:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    you keep saying you want nothing to do with us,

    then why do you keep doing things whith us then.

    Apr 13th, 2012 - 06:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @24 You do not speak for the majority of Argentines. You speak for a few malcontents with an unseemly bitterness towards the whole world.

    CFKC doesn't want isolation. Where would she get her shoes, designer clothes, botox and medication? And how would she stash her money abroad and, more importantly, access it?

    Apr 13th, 2012 - 06:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    Although Elaine's examples are silly (and I have no problem at all with my Queen's gorgeously chic clothes and shoes, however much the haters sneer) I actually agree that my Queen doesn't want isolation. That doesn't mean, however, just letting the bully boys of the intenational system screw the country however they like. There is an alternative, and the left Latin America is currently trying to build it

    Apr 13th, 2012 - 09:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pirat-Hunter

    #26 in Argentina. Where else ? Apparently she can now eat Argentine chocolate, I hope the rest of you payed more attention to her speech. Pretty soon the state will be running the oil industry and everyone will get a fair share of the Argentine chocolates, maybe even Spain will buy them.
    In regards to the money and access to her bank account, let's hope it's not the same branch Gaddafi or libya kept their money.

    Apr 13th, 2012 - 10:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    27-28
    either you want her to walk the plank-or you invite her to lunch,
    maka your mind up,

    she is only a president, nothing else .

    Apr 13th, 2012 - 10:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @29 I thought she was Eva Peron reincarnated. Presumably sharing the same sexual history prior to the presidency.

    Apr 14th, 2012 - 05:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard2

    Yerba mate is just a commodity that responds to media pronouncements about its availability. A scarcity pronouncement immediately elicits 'panic-buying' and 'hoarding' ...... just like last week's 'petrol crisis' in the UK.

    The home-made chocolate pronouncement is just the state's way of getting the Argentinian supported-classes to buy-Argentinian, whatever the quality differential c.f. and e.g. Belgian chocolate, if they could afford them .... just like the old UK government campaign 'Buy British'.

    Not stupid,
    but you have to hope there is some sophisticated thinking and more sophisticated emplacement accompanying the progress of this 'home-grown' policy.

    Wish it luck, because nobody will be better off if the Argentinian economy goes 'tits-up'.

    Apr 14th, 2012 - 12:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • tobias

    @25

    As far as I am aware, the UK and Argentina have no relations in any area. And both countries are still above the waterline. Now since the UK is a world power as so many of you always remind, that is to be expected that you don't need us. The surprise to me is that Argentina has done fine without any relationship with the UK.

    Apr 14th, 2012 - 01:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    You just have to love Pratt-Junta, take this little gem:
    Pretty soon the state will be running the oil industry and everyone will get a fair share of the Argentine chocolates, maybe even Spain will buy them.'

    The sooner the state 'runs' the oil business the better, because they will run it 'into the ground' not get the oil out of the ground.

    No oil is good news for the rest of the world. Argies going tits-up within two years unless there is a coup.

    Dictatorship anyone?

    Ha, ha, ha.

    Apr 14th, 2012 - 01:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    32
    Without looking it up, I think you will find that the UK and Argentina work together on many things,
    We export and import to each other ,
    We even have troops working and patrolling side by side,
    But as I said without looking into it, we do actually work together,
    ...................
    I doubt if you /or anyone that could name one country on earth, that is totally isolated, and has 100% nothing to do with anyone.

    Apr 14th, 2012 - 07:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    #30 You're a sad little bastard

    #33 “Dictatorship anyone?

    Ha, ha, ha.”

    The mask slips.

    Apr 15th, 2012 - 12:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    35 British_Kirchnerist

    It is no secret here that I, and others, think the only way out of this terrible situation that the Kirchner pack have brought Argentina to is a dictatorship.

    Perhaps not military because they are emasculated and have little will to do anything, even though with leadership there are still enough to take the country.

    There are some people who cannot handle democracy: Argentina is full of them.

    Apr 15th, 2012 - 11:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @36 As I mentioned here before, on my last two visits to Argentina there was a groundswell of opinion supporting that idea. Some were saying they were much better off under the military government. It surprised me because 3 or 4 years ago the general view was that they would never support that type of government again.

    Apr 15th, 2012 - 12:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    when she goes, her loyal bloggers will change sides like all turncoats do,
    just watch .

    Apr 15th, 2012 - 11:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    #36 “they are emasculated”

    poor little fascist generals, beaten by a woman! =)

    “There are some people who cannot handle democracy: Argentina is full of them.”

    You're a racist

    #36 & 37 Its not happening, get over it. But if it did, would it be a good thing or a bad thing for the Falklanders???

    #38 I will always be loyal to my Queen. If she is defeated she will join the ranks of Allende, Arbenz and all those leaders whose memory is forever revered by the people's movements; she may even return like Peron, or like Zelaya will one day, God willing. But I doubt such an issue will ever arise, which lucky for you means you'll never be proven wrong!

    Apr 16th, 2012 - 01:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    39
    That may well be the case,

    It is irrelevant whether you think of her as your queen
    We both know this is a play,

    She will never be popular with us,
    As she may be revered by her own people,

    But the main interest is her obsession with something she does not own and never has done, and never will,
    The fact remains, that she is doing irreversible damage to South America id pushed beyond endurance,
    She will destroy all, as a diversion to her own problem,
    The future here is simple,
    Remover the offending article from the corrupt constitution,
    Give up all false claims,
    And leave the islanders alone,
    This will result in the British leaving you alone,
    Then she should concentrate on the argentine country / people / economics’ . and growth and well being of her own country, without involving other people or countries,
    Simple is it not.
    Yet so hard to implement.
    The islands will always be British as long as the islanders want them,
    It’s called democracy, and not CFK or anyone else has a right to remove the freedom of democracy from those who does not wish
    .

    Apr 16th, 2012 - 08:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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