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Timerman says summit left “a very positive balance” for Argentina
Foreign Minister Héctor Timerman indicated that Argentina’s participation in the 6th Summit of the Americas “left a very positive balance,” and stressed on the importance of the bilateral meeting between President Cristina Fernández and US president Barack Obama. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesI'd hate to see what a bad summit looks like then!
Apr 16th, 2012 - 07:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0These kinds of meetings are only as the matter of form not can not have any conclusions.
Apr 16th, 2012 - 08:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0The main thing though, is no mention of the so called “Malvinas” claim...
Apr 16th, 2012 - 08:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0The defense of self determiantion being propagated for a group of people
Apr 16th, 2012 - 08:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0doubtfully were settler community.The shape of any compromise with Argentina around shared sovereignty was obvious then as it is now.But it is even more unrealisable today.
What are most Argentines TipsyThink? At least 70% of them do not have a drop of native South American blood. They are settlers as much as the Falkland Islanders are. Anyway, self determination is a universal right. It is a key principle of the UN Charter. It's not just for some and not for others, it is a right for EVERYBODY!
Apr 16th, 2012 - 08:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0( 5 )
Apr 16th, 2012 - 08:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0You should know this humanity reality.
The Law can not produce Power
The Power can produce own Law.
Whatever TipsyThink... the reality is the Falkland Islanders have the right to self determination. Every single UN Resolution specifically mentioning the Falkland Islands either directly or indirectly references this right.
Apr 16th, 2012 - 09:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0If the UN decided to remove all people with Hispanic blood from South America, theoretically, then I wonder what argument they would use to stay that they have denied to the Falkland Islanders?
Apr 16th, 2012 - 09:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0Two leading articles in Argentine national daily “La Nación” say just the opposite. But Timmerman is not the first Argentine politician to fib to keep his job.
Apr 16th, 2012 - 09:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0Héctor Timerman: “barefaced lies .. more lies ... lies...big lies ... lies lies lies ... barefaced lies .. more lies ... lies...big lies ... lies lies lies ... barefaced lies .. more lies ... lies...big lies ... lies lies lies ... barefaced lies .. more lies ... lies...big lies ... lies lies lies ... barefaced lies .. more lies ... lies...big lies ... lies lies lies ... ”
Apr 16th, 2012 - 10:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentinians: “We love you Héctor, and we love Christina, you're both so good to us”
Héctor Timerman: “Lies”
Oh dear!
Apr 16th, 2012 - 11:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0Perhaps he could do a double act with Ck on stage and as the straight man when el presidente does the comedy ?
Having been in and out of politics for some 35 years the reality of “diplomatic-speak” is that “a sincere ,open and honest dialogue” - is similar to a “frank discussion” - in real words means they all had a bit of an argument and put their views and there was no agreement on the issue”
Apr 16th, 2012 - 11:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0Does anyone remember the second Iraq war? when the defence minster ( I forget his name ) said something like “There is no invasion” and “The American's and the British have been stopped in their tracks” right up til the 82nd Airbourne division were knocking on his front door?
Apr 16th, 2012 - 11:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0Him and Héctor Timerman huh...........................?
@13 ... and before the liberation of kuwait the Iraqis thought the Kuwaitis were stealing their resources, they had a historical right to Kuwait and they wanted to annex it.
Apr 16th, 2012 - 11:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0The parallels abound.
I am just wondering why the USA does not invade Argentina for the oil?
Apr 16th, 2012 - 11:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0They have enough expertise to extract and process the oil and gas without any trouble other than the time it will take (much less than the 10 years Argentina would take).
It might even make Obarmy re-electable.
More lies from Tinman.
Apr 16th, 2012 - 12:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is clear that many of the more serious S Am countries, who care about democracy and legal principles, and who don't just tell gratuitous lies to try to get support, are completely fed up with CFK's hectoring one issue foreign policy. They will not be bullied into signing up to something that will make them look foolish come judgement day.
So Tinman I suggest you resign and join the Goebals Instute of Public Information, and allow some of the more moderate free thinking minds provide better advice to the President, and see if we can't all get on like good neighbours.
#13 “Bagdad Bob” and the Americans should have hired him as his press releases were far more credible than some of the fibs issued by the White House. (Yellowcake uranium, small pox, WMD's...)
Apr 16th, 2012 - 12:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#15 “I am just wondering why the USA does not invade Argentina for the oil?” Perhaps in the past, but Obama really is not interested in petroleum. Canada would be an easier target and unite Alaska to the lower 48 states. On the other hand, Argentina's women, red Angus cattle, Malbec wine, soy-wheat-corn-rice farms... but then again, they'd have to deal with their Argentine captives...
@17
Apr 16th, 2012 - 01:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0*reads your passage on Argentina's women*
*looks at photo of KFC*
*rereads your passage on Argentina's women*
*looks back at photo of KFC*
*scratches head*
@17 - Chicureo - the USA tried to 'liberate' Canada on several occasions.
Apr 16th, 2012 - 01:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Unfortunately for them the Canadians didn't want to be liberated and a join British/Canadian force, pushed them back and burnt down the White House for good measure (something they'd done during a previous US attempt to liberate them).
Maybe they wouldn't wasnt to risk the public embarrassment if they did, and rebuilding the White House for the 3rd time could become expensive. LOL
In all seriousness though, why would the US want to invade for oil when it's cheaper in the long run to trade for it?
As for Timmerman, we used to have a saying about people like him who live in a different reality to the rest of us. 'Same Grid Reference, Different Plant!' :-)
Planet?
Apr 16th, 2012 - 02:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 019 LEPRecon
Apr 16th, 2012 - 02:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am wondering what a holiday on Planet Timmerman would look like..... I am actually scared to find out........
@20 and 21 - I did mean Planet not Plant, or did I...
Apr 16th, 2012 - 02:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0...enquiring minds want to know! LOL
@22 Plant sounded like he's chewing Coca leaves like another south american poison-dwarf we all are well acquainted with.
Apr 16th, 2012 - 02:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No wonder Argentina's finances are FUBAR'd, if this is what they think a positive balance looks like! LOL
Apr 16th, 2012 - 03:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 019 LEPRecon
Apr 16th, 2012 - 03:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“In all seriousness though, why would the US want to invade for oil when it's cheaper in the long run to trade for it?”
A number of reasons (if we are considering Argentina):
1) Argentina are incapable of running an oil / gas winning, processing & distributing business efficiently;
2) The USA would have to compete with the other customers like the Chinese, etc. That is not a problem if they invade;
3) They could develop the undoubted reserves that are there for the future (security of supply);
4) The o / g would be much cheaper than Canadian Tar Sands;
5) THERE ARE PLENTY OF OTHER THINGS TO BE HAD FROM ARGENTINA.
But. it probably won't happen unless the Argies really piss off the next POTUS.
@25 - ChrisR - my post @19 was in reference to Chicureo's suggestion that the US invade Canada, however, I do see your point with regards to Argentina.
Apr 16th, 2012 - 03:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Mind you, if you were a Yank, would you want to have to put up with a nation like Argentina? Their constant whining alone could drive anyone to distraction.
Mind you, if you were a Yank, would you want to have to put up with a nation like England? Their constant whining and barking alone could drive anyone to distraction.
Apr 16th, 2012 - 04:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hey, Marcos, have you got over your strop about the world not supporting you unreservedly?
Apr 16th, 2012 - 04:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Maybe if you cry hard enough you'll get some sympathy. It's located between sh!t and syphilis in the dictionary. :-)
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Apr 16th, 2012 - 05:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 028
Apr 16th, 2012 - 05:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In the Americas 32 of the 34 countries support Argentina, 2 are neutral.
I remember Camoron going to US to lick Obama's feet, I hope that's all he did because he didn't get his support anyway, he tried hard though :-))
@30 - Awww Marcos, are you still upset, did the bad people not read CFK's script and keep to it?
Apr 16th, 2012 - 05:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Maybe you beloved president should try sorting out some actual problems that the Argentine people have. But no, now she's trying to rob the Spanish, p!ssing off the only ally in the EU that you had.
This woman's grasp of diplomacy is second to none. I mean, not even North Korea are as bad as CFK on the diplomatic stage.
Never mind, you've always got your friends in China to help you out. But beware, the Chinese won't put up with CFK, or anyone else for that matter, stealing from them.
31 LEPRecon Upset? not really...
Apr 16th, 2012 - 05:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.clarin.com/politica/Convocan-empresarios-acto-Casa-Gobierno_0_683331851.html
This just goes to prove to everyone that no-one gives a damn about Argentina's spurious claims to the South Atlantic. South American leaders just whisper quiet words of support, nothing more, just to appease the 'crying child.'
Apr 16th, 2012 - 07:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Watch Argentina SPIN! A summit that KFC ran home crying from is a success? Timerman needs to be fired.
Apr 16th, 2012 - 07:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@30 - You are LYING. Antigua&Barbuda and Dominica said they did NOT back Argentina, when ALBA made their false statement. Stop lying, Marcos. You're more idiotic than KFC!
Hey timmerman what happened to your silly blue glasses?
Apr 16th, 2012 - 07:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 13 toooldtodieyoung
Apr 16th, 2012 - 07:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Poor old TinPotMan trying to explain abject failure again, sounding more and more like “Comical Ali” (as opposed to Chemical Ali) every time this happens.
@30 Marcos Alejandro
“In the Americas 32 of the 34 countries support Argentina”
And your evidence for this statement is what!
Looks to me more like 32 out of 34 countries don’t even want to talk about Argentina’s claims to the Falklands anymore.
@32 - Marcos, it's okay to be upset.
Apr 16th, 2012 - 08:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0After all your beloved president lies to you about the state of the economy (whilst filling her Swiss bank account up with millions she just finds lying around), promised you she'd get the UN to support you on the Falklands issue and then promised she'd get the OAS to back you up on the Falklands issue.
Instead she has made you the laughing stock of the world, with her bumbling attempts at international diplomacy, reminiscent of Inspector Clouseau in the Pink Panther films.
The only real difference is Inspector Clouseau somehow manages to save the day, your beloved CFK just bumbles her way into creating more problems for Argentina.
The prototype of the Royal Navy’s next-generation jet has taken to the skies for the first time over Texas. BK1, the first UK trials version of the F35 Lightning II (though this is the B variant) which will fly from Royal Navy carriers at the end of this decade, made its maiden flight at Fort Worth.
Apr 16th, 2012 - 09:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@38 - Yup. They've got some trials to go through in the US just to make sure it does everything it says on the tin, and to shake out any bugs and gremlins.
Apr 16th, 2012 - 09:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If this all goes okay, Britain could expect delivery of the first F35's as early as next year, and a fully armed and capable state of the art air craft carrier within the next 5-8 yrs.
Timerman
Apr 16th, 2012 - 09:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You can see the look of desperation on his face,
In the past it was grainy / smiley , and arrogant,
Yesterday it was self imposed embarrassment, and the gulping look,
A poor response to a lost cause,
Let’s face it,
As far as the British Falklands are concerned she is finished,
And no one can sensibly argue against such a point,
You can only go so far, persuade and cajole so many,
She has run out of options / and road, and her friends are giving up the ghost, talk is fine, but in the end, talkies can drive ya mates away,
Forget the Falklands, you Argies should get your leader to concentrate on her own country and people, full stop .
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@ 40 wow You just can't stop writing like a mad man. What happens?
Apr 17th, 2012 - 04:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0#15 and all subsequent Bushite “invade for oil” posts - You guys are either joking, or cazy, and it seems to be the latter. Anyway I'll remind you of that next time you complain about anyone else “stealing”!
Apr 17th, 2012 - 12:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#18 Indeed, my Queen is a fighter and would not be an acquiescent spoil of war, but leader of the resistance. Think Princess Leia killing Jabba the Hut =)
@42 - I think it's more like Princess Turkey Neck going down on Jabba the Hut!
Apr 17th, 2012 - 01:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And Chavez is Jabba!
Star Wars is ruined now lol. There's something C3P0 about Timerman too.
Apr 17th, 2012 - 01:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 041 xbarilox (#)
Apr 17th, 2012 - 02:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0wow You just can't stop reading like a mad man. What happens?
Dunno / dunno /
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@44
Apr 17th, 2012 - 03:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I know what you mean, he has either had a mishap in his pants or been given 'one'.. If the first probably in fear of when his people will find out how full of 'it' he really is, and if the second, my money is on Chavez doing the tunneling!!
43 Stefan
Apr 17th, 2012 - 03:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh! What a picture that conjures up!
Mind you I think Jabba had a lot of rubber as well. :o)
#43 Chavez may have the bear body shape that many find attractive, but he's no Jabba; going by weight that would have to be Alan Garcia, no? http://incakolanews.blogspot.co.uk/2009/08/unasur-bariloche-summit-what-you-need.html
Apr 17th, 2012 - 07:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#44 Not ruined for me, I've always like C3PO....and Timmerman
@48 Yes well...keep those dreams to yourself. *Shudder*
Apr 17th, 2012 - 08:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 06 TipsyThink
Apr 17th, 2012 - 08:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are a total fucking prick.
There is an old saying “He who lives in a glass house shouldn't throw stones”.
You live in a country governed, run and owned by European's who took the land of the native peoples under the force of a gun. There have been no land redistirbution. The native people of Argentina are amongst the poorest in the world, acording to Amnesty International 95% of native American's in Argentina live below the poverty line and struggle to feed their families, depending on aid handouts.
You country talks about colonialism yet has the largest number of outstanding border disputes of any nation in the world. Many of these with Chile, Paraguay and Uraguay have been put on hold, under signed treaties but as we all know too well, Argentina only complies with a treaty while it serves her to.
Argentina claims that Britain stole the Falklands from her in 1833, yet Britain's claim to the Falklands dates back to 1591 when we discovered the Falklands and became the first nation to set foot on the Falklands, the first nation to name the islands and the only nation to PERMANENTLY settle the islands. In other words - the islands already beonged to us.
As if this was not enough, Argentina claims South Georgia, the South Sandwhich islands, S Orkney islands, S Shetland Islands and the whole of Br Antartica! Yet Argentine does not claim we stole these lands from her! She just claims them anyway!
Like Argentina continues to claim the Chilian Andes Ice Shelf and Martin Garcia Island in Urguay which Argentina occupys as a form of Guantanimo Bay within Uraguayan borders.
On the 30th Anniversary of a war started by a fascist military junta, that had spend the previous years raping, torturing and slaughtering100,000 Argentine children & young people, you government and large numbers of your people are burning flags, rioting and proclaiming your rule over other peoples islands. IT IS A FUCKING DISGRACE! YOU AND ALL THOSE PEOPLE HAVE NO SELF RESPECT
@50
Apr 18th, 2012 - 02:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well put indeed.
Not many people know this, but Timerman was one of the Marx Brothers.
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