Falkland Islands fishing companies had tons of reasons to be cheerful as the first Loligo squid season of 2012 drew to a close last weekend. Read full article
Keep clutching at straws. Can you twist the story any more to try to make it negative? The negatives are only for those who wish to see things go badly for us islanders. For the Falklands economy there is nothing negative or overr-optimistic about this story at all.
Maybe the great Doctor Bingham can help you turn it into the miserable news you would love it to be.
After reading this I think I'll order the squid rings for a starter tonight. Yum! I can taste them now.
I personally think squid tastes like laccy bands but I'm glad that, despite Argentina's attempts to strangle the Falkland's economy, the islands are still doing well. If there's anything that you guys miss I'd be happy to post it over :)
How very kind of you. It is so comforting to know that people care about our situation.
If squid is cooked correctly it is lovely but the longer it is cooked the more like rubber it becomes. When I cook it it normally ends up like tyre inner tube so I generally wait to have it at a restaurant where I know they'll do it well. LOL!
Don't worry about Think he can't stand it when good news is reported about the Falklands. He hates the fact that after all the best efforts of the corrupt Argentinian government, the Falkands are still doing very nicely thank you. Keep up the good work by the way guys!!
As for his comment about the squid , well, we all know where that came from don't we? Now, if you were talking about turnips..................
@5 'Think' typically sees the falklands, thinks about the clean living, safe society protected by democracy and the rule of law. Then he looks at Argentina where people are dying of hunger, the president rules by decree and gun crime is rife.
OK
it's good news for the fleet,
less good news for the individual ships,
and even less good news for the squid themselves.
We need to know if this is a good story or a bad story.
Crucial information is missing -
(i) what is the calculated size of the sustainable catch for the year/year-class, and
(ii) how does the yield match the projections for today's and future stock levels.
(iii) Can this information be relied upon in the absence of reliable scientific and harvesting information from Argentinian sources about same-stock and yield levels in their contiguous waters.
A nice CPR from RKH today as well. A Nice conservative 350mmbbl mid estimate for SeaLion.
Lining the ducks up in a row and waiting for BOR to release it news. Good or bad I have been able to de-risk on the rocketing SP for the past three days. The Beef is sitting pretty.
I have to agree you need a chef that knows what he's doing to prepare squid as an edible dish. Cooked just right it is delicious - otherwise it is a tasteless tyre as others have mentioned.
Fortunately other aquatic life are less discerning so my usual contact with an ilex involves attaching it to a chemically sharpened hook.
The loligo squid is well researched. well managed and sustainable, to a large extent because its life cycle is contained entirely within our waters.
The illex squid is a different matter because it transits the high seas and Argentine waters as well as entering the Falklands zone. The quantities caught are therefore unregulated and escapement rates cannot be guaranteed. There used to be a SA Fisheries Commission which included Argentine, Falklands and UK scientists who met regularly, exchanged data and agreed safe fishing levels. Argentina withdrew from the committee because we refused to discuss sovereignty (in a science/conservation committee !!) The SWA remains to only major ocean area in the world that has no regional fisheries management agreement because Argentina will not join such discussions. Monumentally irresponsible.
Further to 14 one could add that Arg has often deliberatley encouraged its Ilex fleet to go to sea and fish pre-season for the immature ilex on the high seas in the hope that it will thus prevent matures harvestable ilex from reaching the Falklands zone. Also of course equally harms their own zone!
Probably one of the reasons why the Falklands Zone(and South Georgia,s) has a very high International Reputation as a well managed fishery.
Further to 14 one could add that Arg has often deliberatley encouraged its Ilex fleet to go to sea and fish pre-season for the immature ilex on the high seas in the hope that it will thus prevent matures harvestable ilex from reaching the Falklands zone. Also of course equally harms their own zone
Bravo Argentina,ole! Down with the brits imperialist!
What the brits complain about??
In 1958, Iceland took action, extending an exclusive economic zone beyond its internationally recognized territorial waters. The country argued that this was necessary to protect the threatened cod fishery, and it pledged to enforce the zone with the assistance of a quota system and the Icelandic Coast Guard. Britain resented the move, and it sent fishing ships into the exclusive economic zone, along with escorts, setting off the first Cod War in fall 1958. After a few months of deliberate collisions, net cutting, and warning shots, the first Cod War ended with a treaty and an agreement to take future disputes to the International Court of Justice.
The Cod Wars, known in Icelandic as Þorskastríðin or Landhelgisstríðin, were not over. In 1972, Iceland extended the exclusive economic zone again, in an attempt to revive the failing fishery by forcing international producers out. The two countries almost literally went to war in 1973, but the crisis was averted after a series of North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) talks. In 1975, however, another Cod War broke out, when the British refused to recognize the economic exclusion zone and Iceland once again sent out Coast Guard ships to enforce it. This time, Iceland threatened to withdraw from NATO and close a NATO base unless their demands were meant, and a final treaty was reached.
AHHAHAHAHHAHAH,poor deluded brits imperilist
19: Interesting you refer to Iceland, but with President Obama's warning, will Iceland again threaten to leave NATO
Well I am not concern about NATO or no NATO.Only the fish war,and that uk CAN NOT abosolutely complain about Argentina.We have all the rigth to defend Argentina.....So NO COMPLAIN!!
Oh the poor hungry Argies,
Hey
Have a couple of squid on us to tide you over the water,
Until your boat come in .
Now the master chimp wrote again...
AHAHAHHAAHAHAHAH
For two decades until 2005, Argentina and the Falkland Islands cooperated on the management of the valuable squid to make sure stocks did not collapse.
But then Argentina decided it would no longer work together on how much could be caught.
Stuart Wallace, director of Falkland-based fishing company Fortuna, said: ‘It is grotesquely irresponsible to kill hundreds of millions of them when they’re only a few centimetres long just to stop them getting into your neighbour’s waters.
‘They know exactly what they’re
@21 such negativity at such great fantastic news, i can understand your envy but dont let that cloud your judgement on what is a fantastic feat for The Falklands economy, Be happy even if it stings.. :)
You have to remember that 'I don't Think' is busy trying to get the tick from between his arse cheeks!
And the idiot would have Isolde believe it was a compliment.
So, 'I don't Think' I have just paid you a compliment: what do you think of that?I don't think I will be making any more compliments to you 'I don't Think'.
Could everyone please stop responding to Malvin's ridiculous comments. He is nothing but an attention seeker and if we ignore him then he will go away.
Typically Argie fishermen just sit in their boat, stroking their mullets and back hair for a few hours and then return to port with no fish, and beat their wives. No point even considering their opinions on fishing or squiding, they'd never catch anything unless it jumped in the boat and they put a cigarette out on it.
Malvinero : None of your comments alter the fact that you live in a house with a dirt floor , with chickens pecking under the kitchen table , in a street that , if it has electricity , it's stolen .
You very likely have lice and you almost certainly smell.
Now kindly leave this forum , so that us first worlders can better discuss new ways of exploiting ignorant little shits like you , before the Chinese do it first .
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Disclaimer & comment rulesTWIMC
Apr 20th, 2012 - 04:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0Bumper Loligo squid season in Malvinas with over 34.900 tons
Is an elegant way of saying:
Shitty Ilex squid season in Malvinas with under 64.000 tons.....
2 think
Apr 20th, 2012 - 05:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0Keep clutching at straws. Can you twist the story any more to try to make it negative? The negatives are only for those who wish to see things go badly for us islanders. For the Falklands economy there is nothing negative or overr-optimistic about this story at all.
Maybe the great Doctor Bingham can help you turn it into the miserable news you would love it to be.
After reading this I think I'll order the squid rings for a starter tonight. Yum! I can taste them now.
I personally think squid tastes like laccy bands but I'm glad that, despite Argentina's attempts to strangle the Falkland's economy, the islands are still doing well. If there's anything that you guys miss I'd be happy to post it over :)
Apr 20th, 2012 - 05:51 am - Link - Report abuse 03 Boovis
Apr 20th, 2012 - 06:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0How very kind of you. It is so comforting to know that people care about our situation.
If squid is cooked correctly it is lovely but the longer it is cooked the more like rubber it becomes. When I cook it it normally ends up like tyre inner tube so I generally wait to have it at a restaurant where I know they'll do it well. LOL!
3 Boovis and 4 Joe Bloggs
Apr 20th, 2012 - 07:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0Don't worry about Think he can't stand it when good news is reported about the Falklands. He hates the fact that after all the best efforts of the corrupt Argentinian government, the Falkands are still doing very nicely thank you. Keep up the good work by the way guys!!
As for his comment about the squid , well, we all know where that came from don't we? Now, if you were talking about turnips..................
@5 'Think' typically sees the falklands, thinks about the clean living, safe society protected by democracy and the rule of law. Then he looks at Argentina where people are dying of hunger, the president rules by decree and gun crime is rife.
Apr 20th, 2012 - 07:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0Then he feels quite sad.
OK
Apr 20th, 2012 - 07:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0it's good news for the fleet,
less good news for the individual ships,
and even less good news for the squid themselves.
We need to know if this is a good story or a bad story.
Crucial information is missing -
(i) what is the calculated size of the sustainable catch for the year/year-class, and
(ii) how does the yield match the projections for today's and future stock levels.
(iii) Can this information be relied upon in the absence of reliable scientific and harvesting information from Argentinian sources about same-stock and yield levels in their contiguous waters.
Could one of the Fisheries scientists please respond to Geoff Ward's comments?
Apr 20th, 2012 - 07:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0@Think
Apr 20th, 2012 - 09:00 am - Link - Report abuse 034.900 tons aint too shabby for a population of 3,000 :-))))))
A nice CPR from RKH today as well. A Nice conservative 350mmbbl mid estimate for SeaLion.
Apr 20th, 2012 - 09:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0Lining the ducks up in a row and waiting for BOR to release it news. Good or bad I have been able to de-risk on the rocketing SP for the past three days. The Beef is sitting pretty.
I have to agree you need a chef that knows what he's doing to prepare squid as an edible dish. Cooked just right it is delicious - otherwise it is a tasteless tyre as others have mentioned.
Apr 20th, 2012 - 10:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0Fortunately other aquatic life are less discerning so my usual contact with an ilex involves attaching it to a chemically sharpened hook.
I think squid is yum. Especially the little ones when fried in chili oil.
Apr 20th, 2012 - 10:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0Should one live in the falklands, you could simply eat squid all day if you have enough chili.
The loligo squid is well researched. well managed and sustainable, to a large extent because its life cycle is contained entirely within our waters.
Apr 20th, 2012 - 11:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0The illex squid is a different matter because it transits the high seas and Argentine waters as well as entering the Falklands zone. The quantities caught are therefore unregulated and escapement rates cannot be guaranteed. There used to be a SA Fisheries Commission which included Argentine, Falklands and UK scientists who met regularly, exchanged data and agreed safe fishing levels. Argentina withdrew from the committee because we refused to discuss sovereignty (in a science/conservation committee !!) The SWA remains to only major ocean area in the world that has no regional fisheries management agreement because Argentina will not join such discussions. Monumentally irresponsible.
Excellent news for The Falklands and a shining example to its incompetent neighbour how economics should be done.
Apr 20th, 2012 - 11:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well done Falklands!
Poor Argentina :( I guess their fish for victory campaign was about as successful as Mao's mountain canal project.
Apr 20th, 2012 - 12:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh the poor hungry Argies,
Apr 20th, 2012 - 12:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hey
Have a couple of squid on us to tide you over the water,
Until your boat come in .
.
Further to 14 one could add that Arg has often deliberatley encouraged its Ilex fleet to go to sea and fish pre-season for the immature ilex on the high seas in the hope that it will thus prevent matures harvestable ilex from reaching the Falklands zone. Also of course equally harms their own zone!
Apr 20th, 2012 - 02:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Probably one of the reasons why the Falklands Zone(and South Georgia,s) has a very high International Reputation as a well managed fishery.
Couple of links for Falkland Islands fisheries businesses:
Apr 20th, 2012 - 03:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Falkland Islands Chamber of Commerce of fishing companies:
http://www.falklandislandschamberofcommerce.com/business.php?id=11
Falkland Islands Fishing Companies Association: http://www.falklandislandschamberofcommerce.com/business.php?id=11
Interesting to see what fishing/cargo/cruise ships are around the Falklands, using Live Ships ship tracker. Right now, some fishing ships, cargo, tankers: http://www.falklandislandschamberofcommerce.com/business.php?id=11
Further to 14 one could add that Arg has often deliberatley encouraged its Ilex fleet to go to sea and fish pre-season for the immature ilex on the high seas in the hope that it will thus prevent matures harvestable ilex from reaching the Falklands zone. Also of course equally harms their own zone
Apr 20th, 2012 - 04:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Bravo Argentina,ole! Down with the brits imperialist!
What the brits complain about??
In 1958, Iceland took action, extending an exclusive economic zone beyond its internationally recognized territorial waters. The country argued that this was necessary to protect the threatened cod fishery, and it pledged to enforce the zone with the assistance of a quota system and the Icelandic Coast Guard. Britain resented the move, and it sent fishing ships into the exclusive economic zone, along with escorts, setting off the first Cod War in fall 1958. After a few months of deliberate collisions, net cutting, and warning shots, the first Cod War ended with a treaty and an agreement to take future disputes to the International Court of Justice.
The Cod Wars, known in Icelandic as Þorskastríðin or Landhelgisstríðin, were not over. In 1972, Iceland extended the exclusive economic zone again, in an attempt to revive the failing fishery by forcing international producers out. The two countries almost literally went to war in 1973, but the crisis was averted after a series of North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) talks. In 1975, however, another Cod War broke out, when the British refused to recognize the economic exclusion zone and Iceland once again sent out Coast Guard ships to enforce it. This time, Iceland threatened to withdraw from NATO and close a NATO base unless their demands were meant, and a final treaty was reached.
AHHAHAHAHHAHAH,poor deluded brits imperilist
19: Interesting you refer to Iceland, but with President Obama's warning, will Iceland again threaten to leave NATO?
Apr 20th, 2012 - 05:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Obama Warns Iceland on Whaling Activity:
http://green.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/09/16/obama-warns-iceland-on-whaling-activity/
19: Interesting you refer to Iceland, but with President Obama's warning, will Iceland again threaten to leave NATO
Apr 20th, 2012 - 05:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well I am not concern about NATO or no NATO.Only the fish war,and that uk CAN NOT abosolutely complain about Argentina.We have all the rigth to defend Argentina.....So NO COMPLAIN!!
Oh the poor hungry Argies,
Hey
Have a couple of squid on us to tide you over the water,
Until your boat come in .
Now the master chimp wrote again...
AHAHAHHAAHAHAHAH
For two decades until 2005, Argentina and the Falkland Islands cooperated on the management of the valuable squid to make sure stocks did not collapse.
But then Argentina decided it would no longer work together on how much could be caught.
Stuart Wallace, director of Falkland-based fishing company Fortuna, said: ‘It is grotesquely irresponsible to kill hundreds of millions of them when they’re only a few centimetres long just to stop them getting into your neighbour’s waters.
‘They know exactly what they’re
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2084995/Falkland-Islands-Argentina-starts-squid-war.html#ixzz1sbMl7TqS
AHAHHAHAHA BRAVO ARGENTINA!!! OLE!
21 Malvinero01
Apr 20th, 2012 - 06:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It doesn't look like Argentina's fish war had much of an effect. Not much to complain about really.
Malvinero1 you are an idiot
Apr 20th, 2012 - 06:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A catch of 34,900 tons at $1,850/ ton = $64,000,000.00
Apr 20th, 2012 - 07:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A plea to the Argentine government: Please do whatever it was you did in the lead up to this season again next season!
Keep up the good work.
Apr 20th, 2012 - 08:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's funny to see Malvinistas going loopy when a story on how the Falkland Islands' econemy is prospering.
The Argeninian econemy on the other hand has all the prospects of a toilet duck to quote the great David Jason
@21 such negativity at such great fantastic news, i can understand your envy but dont let that cloud your judgement on what is a fantastic feat for The Falklands economy, Be happy even if it stings.. :)
Apr 20th, 2012 - 08:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sounds like business as usual, I like squid, they do it great at Wagamamas. Wagamama Stanley, now there is a good franchise oppurtunity.
Apr 20th, 2012 - 08:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 027 Britworker
Apr 20th, 2012 - 08:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yep, I agree with you. Wagamamas do it really well. So too does the Malvina Hotel.
You have to remember that 'I don't Think' is busy trying to get the tick from between his arse cheeks!
Apr 20th, 2012 - 08:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And the idiot would have Isolde believe it was a compliment.
So, 'I don't Think' I have just paid you a compliment: what do you think of that?I don't think I will be making any more compliments to you 'I don't Think'.
21 Malvinero1
Apr 20th, 2012 - 08:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0dont forget
2.30pm tomorrow
asylum room 303,
dont be late .
Could everyone please stop responding to Malvin's ridiculous comments. He is nothing but an attention seeker and if we ignore him then he will go away.
Apr 20th, 2012 - 10:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0we do try,
Apr 20th, 2012 - 10:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0but he is very very lonly,
he only comes on here for someone to talk to,
then he quickly reverts back to his native ways.
Typically Argie fishermen just sit in their boat, stroking their mullets and back hair for a few hours and then return to port with no fish, and beat their wives. No point even considering their opinions on fishing or squiding, they'd never catch anything unless it jumped in the boat and they put a cigarette out on it.
Apr 20th, 2012 - 11:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Dont our spanish friends like a bit of squid....where does the majority of the catch go??? asia or europe
Apr 21st, 2012 - 08:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0Please join our Facebook PAGE https://www.facebook.com/pages/Keep-the-Falklands-British/123151384435619 KEEP THE FALKLANDS BRITISH press the LIKE button on the page to follow the news streams and spread the news to your friends and family.
Apr 26th, 2012 - 03:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Malvinero : None of your comments alter the fact that you live in a house with a dirt floor , with chickens pecking under the kitchen table , in a street that , if it has electricity , it's stolen .
Apr 26th, 2012 - 08:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You very likely have lice and you almost certainly smell.
Now kindly leave this forum , so that us first worlders can better discuss new ways of exploiting ignorant little shits like you , before the Chinese do it first .
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