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Cristina Fernandez and “The elixir of populism”, by Brazil’s leading magazine
As usual the Argentine people will suffer the most, victims of a “cheap nationalism” seduction inspired in the “Venezuela process”, says the latest edition of Veja, Brazil’s weekly magazine with the largest circulation, in an article dedicated to the seizure of YPF from Repsol. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesWell said, Veja. Honestly couldn't have said it much better myself.
Apr 26th, 2012 - 03:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0Seems like a completely accurate assessment.
Apr 26th, 2012 - 06:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0best read and quite true, bet the Trolls leave this one alone. Vee must follow de orders
Apr 26th, 2012 - 06:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0“La Campora”, described as “the men chosen to perpetuate the legacy of Cristina Kirchner” .
Apr 26th, 2012 - 07:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0This is a troop like the SA for Adolfo...
A good article, will be ignored in Argentina.
Apr 26th, 2012 - 07:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0-- cheap populism -- ?
Apr 26th, 2012 - 08:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0what is -- expensive populism -?
crap magazines...........
#3 I follow no-ones orders, I'm here defending Cristina out of political commitment (some people call it love!) and I'm certainly not intimidated by this pretty basic right wing article. So here goes =)
Apr 26th, 2012 - 08:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0Veja “has a 1.2 million circulation, 90% subscriptions mostly from the Brazilian establishment” So in other words, no surprise they say what they say, its all in their interests.
“However the article makes no mention to the poor management of Spain’s Repsol of YPF, which was the main reason alleged by President Cristina Fernandez to announce the seizure process.”
Even mercopress admits the deficiencies of the article. Why don't you think my Kirchnerist friends will point them out too?!
Finally on the title, I don't know about the elixir of populism but Cristina certainly looks like she's drunk the elixir of eternal youth =)
@7B_K,
Apr 26th, 2012 - 09:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0Come, come, my friend.
l wouldn't go that far.
Elixier of eternal youth indeed!
What did she look like before she drank it?
#8 As far as I can tell she has always looked stunningly beautiful =)
Apr 26th, 2012 - 09:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0Bag of ferrets fighting in a sack, but wearing a rather fetching red French beret. Can not quite place the look.
Apr 26th, 2012 - 09:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0Got it. AA Air Stewardess, better count your change!
I can't decide if British Kirchnerist is performing a comical parody or is just a troll. Seems odd to spend your days acclaiming the beauty of a sixty year old.
Apr 26th, 2012 - 10:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0@6 Pissed as usual.
Apr 26th, 2012 - 10:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0@7 No. You're here because you're an analist. Don't deny it. Given the opportunity, your tongue would be up her back passage like a rat up a drainpipe. Pretty accurate, eh? You're a rat and her back passge is definitely like a drainpipe. Or wider. As a result of how many would have been up there before you! A real brown-tonguer. And I bet you swallow as well!
@9 But then you're myopic, aren't you? Probably best when you're aiming for her ass with your tongue. Don't forget to take deep breaths of that enchanting perfume!
@11 Probably a bit of both. The fact is though, KFC didn't go through the courts, use the Constitutionally enshrined process, or care about any bilateral agreements between herself and Spain.
Apr 26th, 2012 - 10:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0Then they want to talk about negotiation over the Falklands, as if they're going to give one hoot about what they sign at the end of it.
These toads are not trustworthy, and even Wannabe-argtard cannot disagree with that, regardless of how much he loves 'third-way populism'
A little off topic but I thought everyone would be interested to know that over 200 FACTORIES HAD THEIR NAT GAS SHUT OFF yesterday for the chilly weather...for those of us that live in the North it is only fall there...I think this is the 2nd time already this year and the earliest they had to do it!
Apr 26th, 2012 - 10:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0Anyone know if SOY OIL burns in hurricane lamps? CFK can't seem to trade it for LNG.
EFE 24 April 2012: In an exclusive interview with Argentine Interior Minister Florencio Randazzo, he mentioned that the first Chinese engineers could be arriving as early as next week to begin the new management transition planned for YPF. He is certain that the new agreement with the Chinese oil company to jointly develop YPF’s petroleum reserves will dramatically resolve the few doubts about the brilliant vision of President Cristina Fernandez. “It also serves a warning that there are consequences for those who are not willing to cooperate with the Argentine people and that further actions will be taken against foreign elements not willing to re-invest their profits back into the country.
Apr 26th, 2012 - 10:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0Anticipated production is highly optimistic and the benefits of the expropriated YPF petroleum will be absolutely important to future generations of Argentineans and Chinese.
@14 I think you'd have to change significant portions of a turbine if you were trying to get it to run off soy oil. I think some planes in Australia run off a mix of different types of vegetable-petrol.
Apr 26th, 2012 - 11:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0If you're trying to heat houses, your best bet is to use a converted CHP plant that exists for the soul purpose. However, I doubt they have may of those.
They're essentially going to be a bit furked.
Beware La Campora is a little cousin of Naples' La Camorra.
Apr 26th, 2012 - 11:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0Philippe
16. Water rates went up 180% today of course that is not so bad since their pay is up 18%...wait is that right RG math is difficult for me... where is Axel when you need him?
Apr 26th, 2012 - 11:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0And just a little side note the expensive new water may have a little arsenic present in it for them too..I wonder if leaving the arsenic in there makes it more expensive?
“It also serves a warning that there are consequences for those who are not willing to cooperate with the Argentine people and that further actions will be taken against foreign elements not willing to re-invest their profits back into the country.”
Apr 26th, 2012 - 11:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0No, it serves as a warning for forign elements to pull their investments out of Argentina before they are confiscated.
4 willi1
Apr 26th, 2012 - 12:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This is a troop like the SA for Adolfo...
No mate, they are like the SS were for Hitler.
Of course this article is going to be ignored in Argentinaland. The rg's don't like the truth, unless they have written it themselves.
The masses seem to have been successfully brainwashed as they cheer and shout while KFC et al rob the country and then run it into the ground. Wow!!! what a great Country!!! You know, I spent a six months there last weekend............
They seem to miss the point that people make investments to see a return. What is the point of their perpetual reinvestment if they can never liquidate that asset?
Apr 26th, 2012 - 12:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The beret is probably to show affiliation to Che Guevara but she looks more like Citizen Smith - or Frank Spencer.
The writer ignorantly state”YPF won’t have the capital to maintain, much less increase petroleum production”. The truth is CFK has a plan and an infinite source of capital to develop YPF.
Apr 26th, 2012 - 12:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Plans Shale-Gas Investment in Argentina
By Aibing Guo - Apr 26, 2012 5:36 AM AT
China, holder of the world’s biggest shale-gas reserves, plans to speed up exploration of the resource by jointly developing the newly nationalized YPF company recently nationalized by Argentina. Jointly developing the Argentina reserves will be spearheaded by PetroChina Co. which plans to invest three times the minimum amount earlier requested by the Argentine government.
The new proposed YPF management team is tentatively planning to propose seizing fields from other companies that fail to invest at least 30,000 yuan ($4,747) per square kilometer annually, Zhang Jianfeng, a director at the companie’s research institute, said in an interview today. Explorers will have three years to meet the requirement, he said.
Argentina holds 25.08 trillion cubic meters of exploitable reserves of the unconventional fuel trapped in shale rock, the company said, citing a nationwide survey. The Argentine government has pledged to prioritize land approvals, allow tax- free equipment imports and offer subsidies to explorers.
The policy “will certainly prevent companies from sitting on acreage,” Neil Beveridge, a Hong Kong-based analyst at Sanford C. Bernstein & Co., said in an e-mail.
The proposed rules will be similar to those for conventional oil and gas exploration, where the minimum annual investment requirement is set at 10,000 yuan per square kilometer, Zhang said in Beijing, while attending a two-day Shale Gas Summit organized by Centre for Management Technology.
More than 100 Chinese companies have qualified to participate in Argentina’s second auction of shale exploration area, which will likely be held before July, the official said. The Argentine government will offer at least 20 areas, he said.
@21
Apr 26th, 2012 - 12:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Power to the people, Up the Tooting Popular Front! Classic. I think watching that inspired her to go into politics.
Frank Spencer? Well she is a man!
Apr 26th, 2012 - 12:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0CFK stole U$ 6 Billion today from BCRA and replaced it with an RG T-Bill. Wasn't that nice of her!
Apr 26th, 2012 - 12:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I never knew the British Cave Research Association had that much cash. What vacuous cavern were they exploring in Argentina at the time? The hole in her head or the hole in her budget?
Apr 26th, 2012 - 12:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“I don't know about the elixir of populism but Cristina certainly looks like she's drunk the elixir of eternal youth” This was a movie plot with Bruce Willis and the elixir was so expensive... the user has to sell out her country and sell its nation's patrimony... No that's another movie, a really bad one...
Apr 26th, 2012 - 12:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@25 only $6 billion?
Apr 26th, 2012 - 12:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0She stole more than that from Spanish investors a few days ago, and has now slipped under the jackboot of the chinese empire.
It's quite fun to watch.
These are today's marches, road blocks, strikes... ( just today)
Apr 26th, 2012 - 01:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://tn.com.ar/sociedad/00090332/dia-de-cortes-y-marchas
Wasn't that child living in his parents basement ( forget 87) saying that places with good economies don't have road blocks and marches...well he was absolutely right.
Next we'll have stupid Axel saying this is how democracy is supposed to work and it is a good thing...
Next Think will say it is caused by the British
Toby...I'm Uruguayan and speak 37 languages so I am smarter than you but I don't get math or economics and didn't the UK have a strike & mob a year ago? See it's just like living in London but BA is safer, cleaner and cheaper.
who did I leave off?
Yeah all is well...
29 yankeeboy
Apr 26th, 2012 - 01:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How could you miss out Malvi-baby?? He'll be on here telling everyone how intelligent people will ignore this acticle and HAHAHAHHAHA!!! You British fools are finished!!
24 Beef
I'm glad I'm not the only one who picked up on that.... by the way, has Timmerman and KFC EVER been pictured together?
you don't think that KFC is really Timmerman in drag do you?
I wonder if one of those 37 languages was Bullshitese.
Apr 26th, 2012 - 01:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh yeah, well it could be any one of the saying UK is finished, bankrupt blah blah blah like 5-10yrs of little to no growth is somehow going to destroy a country 100s of yrs old. Nails in the coffin etc. The RG logic is baffling.
Apr 26th, 2012 - 01:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is funny their (supposed) 8yr high growth economy where everything was fixed and they are going to be back in the top 5 countries in the world is quickly an spectacularly coming burning out. What now? Their only solution is the Chinese? Do you think CFK can stop them from exporting the soy and oil they extract? Yeah sure. What a rube.
Whats happening in Argentina is not “ venezuelization ” its “africanization” . Its very similar to what's happened in Zimbabwe .
Apr 26th, 2012 - 03:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's plain to see and its sickening .
lol, Argentina even fights with China. It doesn't have one single friend in the world, except Venezuela and Cuba. But even Venezuela/Cuba would come to hate Argentina, if they were neighbors and did more trade.
Apr 26th, 2012 - 04:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Veja is virulently anti-argie, not that they make some good points. Veja is in the same category as FT, WSJ, and Bloomberg, they connive and collude just as much as CFK's myrmidons.
Apr 26th, 2012 - 05:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I still am amazed with the cunning of CFK managing the YPF takeover with the Chinese. In case anyone missed this:
Apr 26th, 2012 - 06:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Beijing, April 24 (PRCNA) – Luigi Gatti, Argentine Special Representative Liaison to the People’s Republic of China, met and had a talk in a friendly atmosphere with Vice-President Li Wuwei, vice-chairman of the National Committee of the Chinese People's Political Committe.
The head of the delegation offered warm congratulations to President Cristina Fernandez on her successful repatriation of YPF holdings back under rightful control of the Argentine people.
Noting that the Chinese people recollect with deep emotion the efforts made by leader Cristina Fernandez for the strengthening and development of Sino-Argentine friendship, he added that the bilateral friendship is developing as the days go by under the deep care of the supreme leaders of the two parties and the two countries. In the agreement announced, China acknowledges that the Malvinas rightfully belong to the Argentine people. The Argentinean minister present reiterated the strong fraternal alliance with China and mentioned that both the island of Formosa as well as the Tibetan regions rightfully are an undeniable part of the People’s Republic of China. He further mentioned that the Dali Llama was not welcome in Argentina and would not be granted a visa. He wished the Argentine people greater successes in the building of a thriving nation, united close behind the spirit of Justicialismo headed by President Fernandez. He expressed the will to join the Argentine and Chinese comrades together in making positive efforts to boost the friendly ties between two countries.
Why is she dressed up in a virgin airways stewardesses outfit,
Apr 26th, 2012 - 06:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0she’s not a virgin lolol
37 Briton
Apr 26th, 2012 - 07:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I fly on Virgin quite a bit and I've never seen a member of the cabin crew who was as ugly as that; male or female. At least not in Upper Class.
LOL!
@7, 15, 30
Apr 26th, 2012 - 07:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“As usual the Argentine people will suffer the most, victims of cheap nationalism seduction inspired in the Venezuela process”.
Basically boys, it's what the 'free world' has been saying about your politburo's latest fiasco.
Yankeeboy reports that 200 factories had their gas shut down.
Apr 26th, 2012 - 07:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well , that will be the fault of the British , the Americans ,the EU and IMF no doubt .
C'mon Camporistas , where are you now ?
Sorry , forgot , you are out with your supermarket trolleys collecting cardboard...
Well, we all have to make a living , I suppose .
She is part of the AA Cabin crew staff, her main duties being.
Apr 26th, 2012 - 07:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 01. Kick starting the aicraft.
2. Stoking the boiler in flight.
3. Throwing out the anchor out on landing.
4. Making the paste sandwiches for the return flight.
37 briton
Apr 26th, 2012 - 07:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ah, but she is Virgin on the rediculous! Sorry about that old joke. :o)
38 Joe Bloggs
Apr 26th, 2012 - 09:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We agree, even British airways were never that desperate
41 reality check
You missed [5]
Removing nuns, to lighten the load .
42 ChrisR
That’s ok. Even old jokes , are worth their weight
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43 briton
Apr 26th, 2012 - 09:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0LOL! The BA crews are pretty good these days. I find that the American ones are on average a little older but again very good. The LAN crews are pretty lovely it has to be said. But as for the stupid looking cow in the photo above... WTF is she thinking. Surely she doesn't really think people find her attractive. Mutton dressed as lamb or what????
@36 Chicureo
Apr 26th, 2012 - 09:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Congratulations. The Central Committee of the Peoples Republic, for the advancement of fraternal understanding and embracement of the concept of the peoples dedication to the collective enlightenment of the Sino Chinese sciences department for the understanding foreign devils sense of humor and wit. Have awarded you, “The Order of The Red Banner” complete with Cuddly Pandas encrusted with diamonds and Pearl inlaid portrait of Chairman Moa. Previous recipients include:
Charlie Chaplin
Buster Keaton
Max Senate
Groucho Marx
Bob Hope
Woody Allen
Mel Brookes
and KFC. Though the committee has stressed that, that particular award is currently under review.
@44 Careful, when I revealed I fly First Class I earned the emnity of jealous Argentine posters. (Nevermind that it was a perk of the job).
Apr 26th, 2012 - 09:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Unfortunately, when BA started their direct flight to Buenos Aires they took away the First Class service, so it is Club Class only now on that route. When they used to fly there via Sao Paulo they had First Class and it was always full; at least until the Brazilians got off.
I like the BA crews, they have a good sense of humour and service is always attentive.
Yes, most airline are crewed by very good dedicated staff,
Apr 26th, 2012 - 09:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But as for CFK, just what could one recommend as a way of travel,
A rubber dingy perhaps to compliment her plastic paddles .lol.
46 ElaineB
Apr 26th, 2012 - 09:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Club on BA isn't too bad unless you get one of those older 767s. The 777s and 747s are pretty good and you're right; I like the staff.
Its all GOOD!!!!
Apr 26th, 2012 - 10:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 48 Yeah, Club on BA is good. A flat bed and, if you can get a seat upstairs by the window, lots of room. I have travelled First on American and I think BA Club is better. JMO
Apr 26th, 2012 - 10:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 050 Elaine.
Apr 26th, 2012 - 10:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Same here and I agree with you. The Upper Class Virgin beds are bigger and flatter but some of the older Virgin 747s still have antiquated entertainment systems. Still, nothing is perfect!
#10 Glad at least you agree the beret is fetching
Apr 26th, 2012 - 10:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#37 Why should she be, she was married for 35 years?
#44 Well I do =)
@51
Apr 26th, 2012 - 10:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Good job you mentioned the 747s. You had me going there for a minute.
#46 “they took away the First Class service”
Apr 27th, 2012 - 12:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0Maybe they abolished second class travel, like Harry Perkind in A Very British Coup =) http://www.channel4.com/programmes/a-very-british-coup/4od#3204906
6@ Expensive populism is when the cheap populism makes the regular citiziens to pay the cost of itself but the leaders keep their expensive way of life (like buying USD 15.000 just in shoes at NY shops when in a political tour...any coincidence is just a fortuitous fact)......Then it change to a very very huge expensive populism.....for references, please, take a look over Venezuelan process already changed into an infinite expensive populism.....
Apr 27th, 2012 - 03:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well done CFK, your bottox dope is working fine as well as your La Campora gang...so....R.I.P...... Argentina
So we've all resolved never to fly with Aerolingus Maximo Argentinas then. I'm glad we came to a consensus.
Apr 27th, 2012 - 09:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0#45 RC
Apr 27th, 2012 - 01:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm blushing...
sort of
...Mao red
Would some one please, please, PLEASE explain the red hat no knickers thing to me!!
Apr 27th, 2012 - 08:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Some say it's red hat no knickers, I have heard red shoes, no knickers and even red dress no knickers. So, my two questions are:-
1/ which one is right?
and
2/ WTF is it all about anyway?
UPDATED
Apr 29th, 2012 - 01:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina's 'plans for farewell intercourse law so widows can have sex with DEAD husbands' branded a 'complete nonsense'
By DAILY MAIL REPORTER
PUBLISHED: 28 April 2012
Alleged proposals to allow Argentine widows to legally have sex with their dead husbands for up to six months after their death have been branded a 'complete nonsense'.
The controversial new 'farewell intercourse' law was claimed, in Argentine media, to be part of a raft of measures being introduced by the Peronist-dominated parliament.
Controversial: The 'farewell intercourse' law is 'a complete nonsense', and was confirmed after re-interviewing sources
Sources inside the Argentinian Embassy in London have said the claims were 'completely false', and 'could never imagine it happening'.
The source said the proposal, if it even existed, had not reached the congress- although it was also admitted it could be the work of an extremist politician. Although not officially rebutted, the claims that someone inside Argentina could introduce such a law provoked widespread skepticism.
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