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Preparing the ground for Maximo Kirchner to occupy the front stage
The idea of having another Kirchner running for office has emerged strongly following last Friday’s mass rally in support of President Cristina Fernandez and her policy of expropriating Argentina’s leading corporation, YPF. Read full article
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Apr 30th, 2012 - 07:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Máximo was brought up in a house where politics was an everyday thing...” not to mention theft and deceit.
Apr 30th, 2012 - 08:11 am - Link - Report abuse 01 Be serious
Apr 30th, 2012 - 08:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0Of course, that's what Argentina needs right now, A fat corrupt polititian. I think you must be right, for Argentina, please read North Korea.
Patacones...
Apr 30th, 2012 - 08:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0Can someone explain what these are exactly? Been trying to look around but can't find out. From what I can see they are bonds issued but provinces to pay for wages by why the need to issue them?
'militant muscle' eh, yeah this sounds just great. Reckon the Argies need to keep an eye on this scumbag.
Apr 30th, 2012 - 09:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0Patacones ie thick fried green plantains or Patacón
Apr 30th, 2012 - 09:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patac%C3%B3n_(bond)
just kidding, anybody care to explains
Here's an insightful video of Maximo discussing the next invasion of the Falklands:
Apr 30th, 2012 - 09:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96PW51C2LMo
Argentina is so retarded laughing at it is addictive.
4. It is a quasi-currency issued by the various provinces, I think patacones were only from BA the other provinces called them something else.
Apr 30th, 2012 - 10:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0Basically it shows their economic system is in failure.
http://www.latinamericanstudies.org/argentina/patacon.htm
8 yankeeboy
Apr 30th, 2012 - 10:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0Cheers. So, by issuing these we are saying that they are unable to fund in Pesos (as they don't have a surplus (actually a massive deficit in the provinces)). They can't print more Pesos as the supply of this is controlled by the central bank so, to make sure that they don't declare themselves bust and the make sure that people get “paid”, they are funding in a quasi-currency which will then be redeemed later by each individual province (principal and with a decent coupon)? Is this madness? What do people on the ground think of this? Surely even the most hardened “K” will realise that there is something fundamentally wrong with the economic system once these come into circulation...
Groomed in the dark arts of Argie politics, I wonder if they chortled over his pram when he was a baby and gurgled, coup coup coup.
Apr 30th, 2012 - 10:26 am - Link - Report abuse 09. BA province is by far the largest, they ran out of $ in Jan. They issued bonds to pay their suppliers who were owed 6 months of invoices, so they had enough pesos to pay the 2 month back pay for the employees.
Apr 30th, 2012 - 10:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0Now there are 4 provinces openly contemplating issuing the patacones because they are out of $ and can not find any buyers for their bonds due to the YPF seizure.
The system is in shut down it is going to be very scary this winter, no gas, no heat, no money.
They are talking about CKF reelection but I doubt she will make it through the year. I hope she has her safe house in Miami ready.
Stagflation.(now).. devaluation (I think 10/1 but rumors are 16/1) hyper inflation( already predicting 30%+ w/o devaluation!)...depression
11 yankeeboy
Apr 30th, 2012 - 10:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0Didn't know that BA had been issuing bonds just pay invoices, is any of this being reported in Argentina or mainly in the western ecomonic press? Am going to be in patagonia visiting the family in August-September so it looks like i'll have to couple of extra coats against the cold. That is in 4-5 months so it will be interesting to see what the situation is like on the ground in the middle of winter.
....getting paid in monopoly money under the hope that you can redeem it for that 7% interest in a years time. Watching some fat guy who lose $2.1 Billion kiss his dictator mother who regularly steals foreign companies for his boy-scouts movement to destroy. Getting colder ... colder.. colder.
Apr 30th, 2012 - 11:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0That's pretty furking bleak.
12. I read most of the Arg daily newspapers all of this was reported in January. Since RGs don't understand economics they are still thinking all is well and will be completely taken by surprise when it all collapses.
Apr 30th, 2012 - 11:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0My friend's parents told him that it is so dangerous now they don't like to walk in their neighborhood because so many people are getting mugged and they live in the Northern Suburbs of BA. There were also 20 bank robberies in BA last week!
@14 Why would you rob a bank to get pesos? You'd be better robbing a paper shop because then at least someone can print on the paper.
Apr 30th, 2012 - 11:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0... or a organic butchers, artisan bakers or boutique candlestick-makers.
Robbing a bank for cash is a rubbish idea in Argentina.
A political household. How grim.
Apr 30th, 2012 - 11:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0An advisor to his mother. Heaven forbid Mrs Thatcher consulted her offspring.
A growing youth movement. Sounds ominous.
Kirchnerite politics. More self harm coming Argentina's way!
14 - That is something is noticed. Impossible to talk about ecomonics most of the time as every economic statement is politically loaded so much so the the economic message gets lost. A case in point is a piec in Pagina 12 about the expropriation. Basically saying that it was the right thing to do and that the move brings it into line with other states and that quasi state/private production works. What it fails to address is the fact that (post expropriation) it will be very difficult to make the economic case to any corporation that investing in YPF is viable or prudent. They just skate over not understanding that this is a major stumbling block. Also, a number of corporations (in the UK and elswhere) have to comply with a equivalent of 172 of the Companies Act stating that each investment/transaction is “in the best interests of the shaerholders as a whole”. It will be impossible for a number of boards to do this and, if there were to sign off on this provisions anyway, they would break domestic law and be barred from being directors. So, most corporations couldn't even invest if they wanted to. The rammifications of the YPF action run very deep (and can I assume that the patacones move is a direct result of not be able to issue standard bonds)?
Apr 30th, 2012 - 11:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0@17 That's where the Chinese come in. They don't have such worries.
Apr 30th, 2012 - 11:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0Maximo..........Maximo.
Apr 30th, 2012 - 11:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0Nececito un hamburgesa y papas Frances ! Maximo por favor !
God help Argentina...
Apr 30th, 2012 - 11:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0@20 In the eyes of God we're all wretched. It is but in our own eyes that the poor Argentinians lead themselves willingly into despair. Lord protect them on their journey through the darkness, and may they one day see the light of goodness and righteousness, and pay heed.
Apr 30th, 2012 - 11:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0They are cutting off the gas to shopping centers and major users until it warms up.
Apr 30th, 2012 - 11:57 am - Link - Report abuse 021 GreekYoghurt
Apr 30th, 2012 - 11:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0You just know that when their economy does finally implode they will still blame someone else for it don't you? Not accepting the consiquences of their actions is pretty much par-for-the-course in Argentinaland.
@23 That is the reason they have been picking fights with everyone. They have known this is coming for a while now and they needed to create villians to blame.
Apr 30th, 2012 - 12:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They must be joking! Is Argentina trying to follow Syria, North Korea etc.?
Apr 30th, 2012 - 12:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@23 Of course. I just feel we're getting to the stage when they start erecting the big gold statues of Maximo pointing to the 'glorious future'.
Apr 30th, 2012 - 12:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Believe me when I say that not all Argentines have their heads in the sand in regards to their pending economic collapse. It's not that they don't care, they are just accustomed to chaos and understand that there is little that can be done to stop it. The Argentines that I know are hording dollars and preparing for the inevitable....but they aren't worried about it. They shrug their shoulders and wait. It's a 'normal' part of life here. You make as much money as you can when the economy expands, trade for dollars, survive the next crisis and start over again. Normal.
Apr 30th, 2012 - 01:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 027. The difference between the next crash and the previous ones is that in the past the USA wanted a stable Argentina to keep SA stable. Now we don't care there will be no money coming from IMF or USA and I think WB and IDB will also start to withhold funding shortly due to the lack of IMF audits.
Apr 30th, 2012 - 01:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The impending collapse will be spectacular and last a long long time.
@28 we're beginning to get messaging from the 'front for victory' about constitutional reform to keep KFC in power until Maximo is ready. The messaging is about the contstitution not reflecting the current popular feeling in Argentina and they want to remove bureaucracy by changing the parliamentary system to fit.
Apr 30th, 2012 - 01:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Clearly the face of the country once the darkness comes is going to be very different to what they have now.
@28 we're beginning to get messaging from the 'front for victory' about constitutional reform to keep KFC in power until Maximo is ready. The messaging is about th
Apr 30th, 2012 - 01:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sure yogui...And you believe all the BS.....
Argentina is probably going to go the Direct Democracy way,not the maximo or minimum way....
Poor deluded ex-empire
@30 Can you rewrite that in such as way as I can understand it?
Apr 30th, 2012 - 01:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I read direct democracy. What's making a 'family dictatorship' with a leader who rules by decree and dismisses the constitution as irrelevant got to do with direct democracy.
Stop showing your ignorance.
Whatever Mal,
Apr 30th, 2012 - 01:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You know as well as everyone else that there is a pattern to South American governments (Democracy, Dictatorship, Democracy, Dictatorship and so on) and it's hard to break out of it, some SA countries seem to have managed it but there's no way you Argies will have, much too fond of sitting around blaming the rest of the world for your problems rather than getting a grip and sorting your shit out. It's now getting towards time for dictatorship again and this fat fuck Maximo looks like a likely candidate.
Does anyone think he's going to make a law where every family has to send him a cream bun, once a year?
Apr 30th, 2012 - 01:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Maximo for Congress makes sense, nobody but the hatersare talking about a family succession to the presidency. What they are talking about, on the other thread, is much better - Cristina forever (or as long as the people want her) =)
Apr 30th, 2012 - 02:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 30
Apr 30th, 2012 - 02:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Do you think this is BS? No, it's not, this is true, it's not BS. But I understand you think this is funny, because you don't live in Argentina. Where are you living now, Canada? From Canada things look different and easy. specially if you live in Ontario, or Quebec. Unfortunately Argentina is not Canada. No se puede creer lo cobarde, miserable, ignorante y odioso que sos, por un lado es mejor que te hayas ido de Argentina, si en este país toda la gente como vos se fuera a otro país, Argentina sería un paraíso. Aunque lo es, pero de ladrones. Bien kgoncito sos Malvinero, bien peronista.
I’m hearing that the cream bun will be partly subsidised by the government for the next ten years. It will also be the only thing put in the basket for inflationary purposes (as it is the only constant) and later the subsidies will be taken away for corporations and extra money pumped into keeping the cream bun at same price it has been for the last 10 years thus showing that inflation is not rising and has not risen for 10 years. It will be called the CBMK Index. Sensible policies for a better Argentina.
Apr 30th, 2012 - 02:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0what about Big Mac?
Apr 30th, 2012 - 02:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just when you think they cannot do any more to fcuk the country up any further, they manage it.
Apr 30th, 2012 - 02:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Argentinians get what they deserve if they allow this nonsense to get into statute and come to pass.
@36,37 Well they did have a saying that 'man cannot live off cream buns and big macs alone', but Maximo has shown them to all be wrong. He turned away the naysayers by showing them that it's not true and man can live off nothing but those two products. He just needs to be determined.
Apr 30th, 2012 - 02:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Keeping the cost of cream buns down is also an important part of socialism.
@ 37 Mickey, indeed a good question.
Apr 30th, 2012 - 02:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's quite revealing to get to know, that Big Mac's are not out of McDonald's offer to fake argentine inflation, but simply because Maximo needs his personal rations not to run out...
And in breaking news the news desk has been told that in order to “prepare the ground for Maximo Kirchner to occupy the front stage” both the ground and the front stage would need to be re-enforced. This is expected the happen at some point in the next 3 years.
Apr 30th, 2012 - 02:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They might need to add a few extra tens of centimeters into the radius of the crown if he's expecting to get it onto his head at the coronation. That's unless he wears it on a bun like queen victoria.
Apr 30th, 2012 - 02:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The evidence is beginning to stack up, Argentina becomes more like a dictatorship as each day goes by. This guy will have an ego the size of his stomach, indulged for years on false promises from his psycho mother and lots and lots of enchiladas.
Apr 30th, 2012 - 03:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He is useless and a thief, vague and maintained that follows the corrupt tradition of his family that manipulates the results of elections with trap and fraud, buying votes and wills and handle public funds as if they were theirs. Fat lazy disgrace person.
Apr 30th, 2012 - 04:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But what about Nestors other son Mariano Perrone. Surely he can be the one to lead the peronist twats forward..... his surname is even Perrone!
Apr 30th, 2012 - 05:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://i.imgur.com/IGMoe.jpg
Is it surprising that with the exception of #34 British_Kirchnerist, all the pro KFC supporters have kept their mouth shut?
Apr 30th, 2012 - 06:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sorry #34, but your observation “Maximo for Congress makes sense” is absolutly pathetic.
Please, someone intelligent that's pro-KFC, explain how this is good?
Does anyone remember the soapie, DYNASTY with John Forsythe, Linda Evans, Joan Collins and some others whose names escape me?
Apr 30th, 2012 - 06:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well this could be a sequel, Dynasty II
Of course it would have to be dubbed into either English or Spanish depending on where it was made
like mother like son,
Apr 30th, 2012 - 06:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0he is being groomed to lead her followers to victory after victory,
but like mummy, he will go into folklore, as the man who knew to much, but did very little .lol.
In the meantime, Boudou is actively campaigning all over Argentina so he can make a run for CFK´s job in 2015. At least he is running-down the governor of Buenos Aires, as rumours are that they both might be involved in “Plan B”, in case the constitution is not changed to allow her a third term. Ah, Argentina K politics; isn´t it FUN?
Apr 30th, 2012 - 06:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#46 I think the reason that the anti-k's are dominant on this particular thread is that its they (you) who make all the running on conspiracy theories and scaremongering about Maximo. To spell it out, I said maximo for Congress makes sense because its a realistic, relatively junior, position, an antidote to the madcap idea that he's going to be made President a la Kim Jong-Un. If my Queen insists on standing down, there are others who can continue her work without resorting to heredity, like the up and coming young Kicillof, but I think the smart money must be on re-election, at least give the people the chance of re-electing the heroine of oil nationalisation, and I think they will take it =)
Apr 30th, 2012 - 06:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 039 GreekYoghurt
Apr 30th, 2012 - 07:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Do you think he will get a sponsorship deal from MacDonalds? Yeah, maybe Greggs and MacDonalds will be the new growth industry in Argentinaland!!!
Maybe Maximo Kirchner will lead the cursade against lesser pastries and Burger King ( which is a pity, I actually think that burger king has the edge on Maccy D's )
Maybe we are all wrong and he will lead the ecomonic recovery by eating all the cream buns he can get his hands on.
50 British_Kirchnerist, you still around here? Either leave of start to post something worth reading?
Apr 30th, 2012 - 07:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Support rallies are so third world!
Apr 30th, 2012 - 07:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@50, corruption is spelled with a 'c' not phonetically with a 'k', so it's anti-c's not anti-k's ... call us by our real name, “anti-c's”. thanks for that.
Apr 30th, 2012 - 08:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@51 I don't think Maximo is the type to eat delicate pastries. He likes to get the cream on his lips and some of the jam filling onto his tie. Then he tries to lick it off but it just stays there all day. Cream buns are his favourite, but cream and jam split donuts are an alternative.
Here is a photo of Maximo after eating some cream buns: http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2011/12/19/1226226/220552-kim-jong-un.jpg
I think he would like a Kahuna Burger washed down with a tasty beverage. Maybe he could do the RG version of man vs food. For a country short of food with rampant inflation and rising food prices he certainly manages to dodge his salad!
Apr 30th, 2012 - 08:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Joking aside, with his father's history of heart disease - and therefore Max will likely have an increased risk - you would think his doting mother would spend a little more time convincing him to eat a healthy diet.
Apr 30th, 2012 - 08:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This is as predictable as the day is long. Hardly worth commenting on now. We all have this one taped I think.
Apr 30th, 2012 - 09:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@56 well at least people know his weak-spot. By placing salads in strategic places he can be made to go to the right areas. Then by constructing sentences like 'do you want to tell us where the $2.1 billion for Maximo Aerolingus went or do you like salad?' he will clearly opt for the non-salad option and tell people the swiss numbered-account numbers.
Apr 30th, 2012 - 09:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Simple
#51 “Do you think he will get a sponsorship deal from MacDonalds?”
Apr 30th, 2012 - 09:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No. I don't think American corporations are on particularly friendly terms with Argentina right now =)
#56 Why do you assume she's not. People aren't robots you know; I accept that although he's on the same side as me, yes, Maximo is a bit overweight, but if he was on the other side that wouldn't make it turn into some comedy of nothing but errors
@59 Here we go again. “Maximo is a bit overweight”, more prevarication and for what reason?
May 01st, 2012 - 02:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0Go Maximo.
May 01st, 2012 - 10:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina deserves you.
Maximo in not a bit overweight, he is obese, possibly morbidly obese.
May 01st, 2012 - 11:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0Guys!! You know what?
May 01st, 2012 - 11:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0Looking at the picture at the top of this story is beginning to make me feel ill........... I don't know why, it's just......wrong.
Maximo should know the saying 'a moment on the lips, a lifetime on the hips'
May 01st, 2012 - 12:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Maximo Park just unveiled their new track 'Hips and Lips' - surely a tribute to the 'great' man.
@64 is it wrong because he doesn't have a cream bun in each hand?
May 01st, 2012 - 01:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@63 I know what you mean.
May 01st, 2012 - 02:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@34 You're right. Cristina forever. Preferably set in stone. Sorry. That should have been under a stone.
May 01st, 2012 - 02:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@50 Re-election. Yeah. Contrary to the constitution. Still, who gives a toss about the constitution. Best to get back to the real roots. In Ancient Rome, in times of major crisis, they would appoint a “dictator” to rule until the crisis was over. Argieland is in for a good 50 years of crisis. Best appoint the cow dictator now!
@59 Argieland is already a comedy of innumerable errors. Remember that early fake bicentennial? Should have made it the Dissolution!
# 67 In the days of the Roman Republic the Dictator was a good thing as he was only appointed at times of crisis and was then expected to return to his day job so to speak.
May 01st, 2012 - 02:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The most famous was the farmer Cincinnatus (after whom Cincinnati is named) who was twice Dictator and was called from his plough to be dictator and afterwards returned to his farm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cincinnatus
Not exactly the situation in poor belighted Argentina
#63 & 66 Pray tell, what DO you mean. That its a shame Maximo doesn't look as svelte and glamorous as his mother? Other than that its a typical son-hugging-mum photo, whats so sick inducing? I think I can guess what your sniggering at but come on, grow up
May 01st, 2012 - 03:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Justicialist Party May Day Celebrated
May 01st, 2012 - 05:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Buenos Aires, May 1 (Buenos Aires Herald) -- The dear respected Maximo Fernández made a congratulatory speech at the Justicialist Party parade celebrating the brave workers of Argentina on the May Day holiday. His speech has enjoyed great public response as it was vibrant with superb intelligence and iron will and gives clear-cut answers to questions arising in building a thriving nation.
In particular, his statement that “Our party and the government of the Justicialist Party will join hands with anyone who sincerely wishes the reunification of the country and peace and prosperity of the nation, and make responsible and persevering efforts to realize the historic cause of national reunification with our brothers held captive in the Malvinas Islands” instills in the minds of all Argentinians the conviction of sure victory in national reunification with them.
Maximo Fernández was evidently making a reminder of the tireless work of his mother, Dear Leader, Cristina Fernández de Kirchner, who has called for national unity before anything else and led all patriotic-minded Argentinians to the efforts for national reunification with the Islas Malvinas.
This statement also made people recall the bold and fearless leadership, of his father, the late Great Leader President Néstor Kirchner as well who declared that Argentina would join hands under the banner of great national unity with government authorities or ruling and opposition party officials, politicians and Argentine workers, if they value the common interests of the nation and want national reunification with the illegally held rightful territory of Argentina.
The idea of on great national unity and their lofty personalities and patriotism of Presidents Cristina Fernández and the great leader President Néstor Kirchner, have served as a source of strength enabling all Argentinians to turn out in the drive for national unity and reunification.
Here's a photo of maximo doing a speech, but thankfully they cut the cream buns out.
May 01st, 2012 - 09:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2012/4/15/1334461437197/Kim-Jong-un-008.jpg
#71 You know, we really should not be making fun of this national tragedy, but it really is mind boggling that the Argentines would fall for this.
May 02nd, 2012 - 04:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0All this talk of the Peronists looking for ways by which Mrs K could stand again, plus the grooming of the son as heir apparent, suggests that Argentina is well on its way down that slippery slope that leads to dictatorship. Still, if they want to join the likes of Cuba, North Korea and Syria, that's up to them.
May 02nd, 2012 - 10:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0I think there is a lot of people got the wrong end of the stick. 'Preparing the Ground' for Maximo merely refers to the steel reinforcement works they had to make to the stage at Stadium to accommodate him.
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