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Falklands fishing industry participates of Europe’s leading seafood Show
Representatives from the Falkland Islands’ fishing industry travelled to Belgium last week to attend the Brussels Seafood Show. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rules“Rumours that the show will move to Barcelona either in October 2012”
May 01st, 2012 - 12:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0Great, that large delegation of British squatters in Malvinas had a great time eating Leonidas chocolates at Brussels Grand-Place(they didn't like the hotel though), now they are heading to Barcelona for more vacation time at the expense of British taxpayers. What happen with the double-dip recession?
It's not at the expense of the British taxpayer, cretin.
May 01st, 2012 - 01:34 am - Link - Report abuse 02 Que? “Peter Preston: UK can't afford the Falklands”
May 01st, 2012 - 03:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-11999601
@3
May 01st, 2012 - 05:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0Your point being what...that we will give the islands to you - ha, ha.
I note that your ambassador in London has been embarrassing herself again. Annoyed that the UK government quite rightly wont talk to her she has now taken to hijacking the foreign Secretary's press conference. Oh dear....
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/argentinas-uk-ambassador-ambushes-william-hague-with-questions-on-the-falklands-7697658.html
The whole country of RG Land simply has no shame. Made to look foolish as they travel around hounding the UK foreign secretary begging for a meeting. how diplomatically unseemly.
Percy Peanut (as the Private Eye calls him) pops up again. This ex editor of the Guardian has been totally discredited for putting his staff in it. A good source of crxx for Marcos to quote.
May 01st, 2012 - 06:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0Percy is good with his wild views but hardly what anyone with a brain would call reliable or truthful.
May 01st, 2012 - 06:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0He makes his name these days by saying things he think will shock/annoy people hence the wide ranging mockery of his opinions. Still he makes plenty of money from it so there's obviously plenty of suckers not just here in the UK but in Argentina too it would appear.
Marcos returns with unsubstantiated comments and his lack of intellect. Now he claims the UK can't afford the FI based on a 2010 source from an insignificant Guardian journalist.
May 01st, 2012 - 06:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well since 2010 we have had Sealion, Beverly, Casper, Casper South and Darwin. Looking more like the FI will be able to afford Argentina.
How much USD can you legally buy today Marcos. Watching Argentina collapse is going to be hilarious.
@3 dear oh dear, we can more than afford the tiny amounts required for protecting the falklands, trivial in comparison to what we spend in overseas aid around the globe: Visit http://projects.dfid.gov.uk/ or the £38,000,000,000 in our defence budget.
May 01st, 2012 - 08:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0Not sure whether I've encountered Falklands brands in the shops but it's about time we did.
What Argentines don't seem to understand is that their “give peace a chance” mantra is actually rather threatening.
May 01st, 2012 - 08:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0Peace already exists on the Falklands and has done for 30 years. What Argentina is implying is that if Britain doesn't hand over the Falklands through negotiation then they will resume warfare to take control of them. Otherwise what does their mantra mean other than being a catchy soundbite?
@9 'peace' to an argtard means torturing nuns, throwing drugged people out of planes and generally trying to impose your will onto other people. If you take it in that context, they're clearly giving peace a chance.
May 01st, 2012 - 10:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0@3
May 01st, 2012 - 11:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0Even if you could substantiate what is clearly a piece of Guardianesque garbage (which you can't)...so what, that would be the concern of the British government and no concern of yours, keep your dirty argie nose out of it.
Choice quote from the Article:-
May 01st, 2012 - 11:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0“They keep on about self-determination, but not everyone can have self-determination”
I think that this little quote tells us everything we need to know about the Argetinian attitude towards the Falkland Islanders, and this is their Ambassador to Britian!!
Thank you for making your point quite clear Ambassador. When would you like to schedule talks on the future of the Falklands? How about never? does never work for you?
@1 Marcos - you sound really jealous that the Falkland Islanders (there's no such place as the malvinas - it's a fairytale told to Argentines by your corrupt politicians), are jet-setting around the world, showing people that the Falklands are open for business and WILLING to trade.
May 01st, 2012 - 11:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0They don't need the British Taxpayer to pay for such trips, as it all comes out of THEIR own money, from THEIR own government.
As for protecting the Falklands, well the cost of doing that is just a drop out of our overall defence budget, but even if defending the Falklands cost half of the defence budget or most of it, no one in Britain would begrudge defending them.
Only people like you, Marcos, put a price tag on the worth of freedom for people. For the British people it's a basic right guaranteed by law.
@4 I saw that the Argentine Ambassador in London has been making an unseemly show of herself. Does she not understand diplomacy at all? She will end up frozen out with nothing to do but buy shoe to send home to CFKC. Diplomacy is what happens quietly behind the scenes while the Argentines throw public tantrums.
May 01st, 2012 - 11:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0The show must have been Mr Hague talking of human rights........I mean, the human rights of people of Libia perhaps, NATO invaded to protect people, but what a shame, colateral thing that happens when someone invades, civilians were killed, a civil war increased, many had to flee, the country destroyed, a puppet government, not elected, in charge, so your companies can steal others resources without blame. Double standards.......................
May 01st, 2012 - 12:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@15 Poor child. Been reading the government comic strips again, have you?
May 01st, 2012 - 12:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@15 a puppet government, not elected,
May 01st, 2012 - 12:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0BEIJING—China formally recognized the National Transitional Council as Libya's government, becoming one of the last major powers to do so, after weeks of increasing strain between the Libyan rebels and Beijing.
Meanwhile, a spokeswoman of Libya's embassy in Argentine capital Buenos Aires told Xinhua that Argentina has recognized the NTC as the legitimate representative of Libya.
“The embassy took down the green flag of the state founded by Muammar Gaddafi in 1969, and afterwards raised the green, black and red flag used by the new Libyan authorities,”
Doesn't your Government make a laughing stock of you enough without you contributing.
May 01st, 2012 - 02:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Would you have just sat on your arse and let Gaddafi kill the civilian population? Yes, I don't doubt you would, but that's Argies for you, if it's not about the Falklands (malvinas don't exist) then you're not interested.
What a sad bunch of selfish muppets you are.
“HMS Dauntless should return from the South Atlantic to protect Hague from further ambushes”
May 01st, 2012 - 04:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Great job Ms Castro!
“Foreign Secretary, you speak about Britain promoting human rights and peace in all corners of the world – we need to introduce peace and dialogue over the Malvinas in line with the UN Resolution 2065 as passed in 1965!” So began Alicia Castro, introducing herself as the Argentine ambassador to the Court of St James.
Mr Hague, natural good manners mixed with rising alarm, interjected “Ambassador can you please say, what exactly is your question?” Ms Castro hardly missed a beat: “Considering that the UN, the international community and a number of Nobel laureates have called upon both countries to hold meaningful dialogues to resolve this matter, my question is are you ready for dialogue? Are you willing to give peace a chance?”
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/argentinas-uk-ambassador-ambushes-william-hague-with-questions-on-the-falklands-7697658.html
If she had stood on a chair and shown everyone her knickers, she couldn't have embarrassed herself more. If she is the best Argentina has for an Ambassador, they have no chance of ever earning any respect.
May 01st, 2012 - 05:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Like you guys have any respect around the world, lol.
May 01st, 2012 - 05:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Here goes Marcos again living in fantasy land. One of the world leaders he claims has no respect.
May 01st, 2012 - 06:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You know the punishment for her embarrassing behaviour? She will now has zero access to any political resource in the UK. She probably should enjoy the shopping and turn those pescos into pounds before they are worth zero!
Anyway I thought it was all rather amusing!
I understand Dame Edna has retired, prehaps Ms Castro was auditioning to take over.
May 01st, 2012 - 06:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This could be most entertaining, as this is unlikely to be her last public outburst.
This is why Argentina should build their own ships for fishing. This are resources Argentina needs and should be harnessing to compete with the british illegal aliens in Islas Malvinas Argentina. We should learn from Australia.
May 01st, 2012 - 08:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“But it was not a news-grabbing people-smuggling operation that the officers busted. The Indonesian boat was carrying just six crew members, three kilograms of fish, and longlines with freshly-baited hooks. When it was first sighted by the surveillance plane, it looked to be carrying much more fish than the three kilograms it was found with.” and to add insult to injury “Between July 2007 and July 2008, 186 boats were apprehended, 141 of these were Indonesian-owned boats. The entire crews were arrested and transferred to immigration detention centres, their boats towed to the nearest port - most often Darwin - and burnt”
Maybe Argentina should be learning something from the world community, if you can't beat them, you join them.
www.abc.net.au/environment/articles/2011/12/13/3389001.htm
I guess in Argentina it's seen as good to have an ambassador who is some kind of red-top journo, gate crashing events and posing questions that seem to have no reference to the fact they just stole a company and p!ssed on their own constitution.
May 01st, 2012 - 09:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's like they're all retards with no perception of social decorum.
Does Marcos ever stay on topic? The topic is about Falklands fishing being good, and Argentinian fishing being rubbish.
Ms Castro
May 01st, 2012 - 10:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Should be sent home,
CFK has no intention of giving the islanders anything but a headache,
If you trust her, you might just as well trust a telly tubby,
.
@ 21 Not that this is anything to do with this article, but Marcos, seriously, you cannot have dialogue on a subject 'sovereignty', when one side already has a pre-determined outcome. Therefore there will never be any dialogue. Also 'peace' is a very subjective concept. The UK and the Falkland Islanders are perfectly happily getting on with things with peace and harmony. The only people disturbing the peace are the Argentinians, because they want something they cannot ever have. Your political system is based on diversionary politics, Kirchner promised the world that there would be a united stance in South America and a strong statement of support over your claim of the Islands at the end of the 6th summit of the Americas - result? No-one was remotely interested, so what does she do, before she has practically taken her coat off after landing in Buenos Aires, fearful of negative headlines, she announces the expropriation of repsol. Classic diversionary poltics. But Marcos you should be aware, this behaviour is finite, the further you stretch the truth, the easier people begin to see through it. I for one will enjoy the collapse of latest Argentinian dictatorship with relish, but your people will be the ones who continue to suffer until you accept the inevitable and accept the Falklands will be British as long as the occupants wish it.
May 01st, 2012 - 11:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'd sooner take my chances with someone who has double standards than no standards...like your esteemed plastic faced presidente, how much has she and her family stolen and squirreled away in Switzerland by now I wonder...
May 01st, 2012 - 11:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 027 Britworker
May 02nd, 2012 - 02:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0Everyone knows Malvinas belong to Argentina. And everyone knows too that the UK has the force but not the right to keep them. Even unemployed young men in the UK know their tax money gets wasted by protecting huge extensions of land for the few hundred rich families that live in this far far away argentine territory. I truly wonder how anyone in the UK gives a rat about these few hundred millionare living the good life at the expense of tax- payers back home that waste to protect them from an inevitable outcome.
Marcos - pease define “everybody knows ----”? USA does not - they are neutral, Canada does not think so, nor Australia,nor New Zealand, nor the EU states(they have us officially as a Brit Overseas territory), nor quite a number of other nations.
May 02nd, 2012 - 02:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0A number of S America countries only say it publicy to shut CFK up - the policy they actually practise with the Islands is rather different!
UK unemployed! - i doubt if half of them even really know where we are on a map - and even less interested! It is NOT much an issue in UK itself.
Do they all care where UK spends 0.5 - yess HALF of ONE percent of the UK Defence budget? - bet they could not care less!
Few hundred millionaires here!!! - you obviously know far more than I do and you live many thousands of miles away!
What do you define as a millionaire- a million in the bank in cash? Or a business and property that turns over a milion or has a value of a million?
There are BIG differences!
Islander1 A person whose assets are worth one million dollars or more, seems to be your case right?
May 02nd, 2012 - 03:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0You know the punishment for her embarrassing behaviour? She will now has zero access to any political resource in the UK. She probably should enjoy the shopping and turn those pescos into pounds before they are worth zero
May 02nd, 2012 - 04:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0Really Inxect?? You want to bet that uk will enter negotiation over MAlvinas ,a lot faster than you think??
@ 32 Malvinero
May 02nd, 2012 - 06:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0I think you are totally wrong there ! It would be political suicide for any British politician or party to even entertain discussions with Argentina re the Falklands.CFK has managed to raise the profile of the Falklands and in a very negative way for her cause.
People in Britain (and now in Spain) and around the world can see what a 'mafia type' political setup there is in Argentina and dont look upon it as a 'serious' country. Tin pot and third world are increasingly being used to describe Argentina.
“ mediocre accommodation available in Brussels .....”
May 02nd, 2012 - 08:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0Where were they staying? At the Formule1 ?
There are plenty of fine hotels in the area around Brussels and at reasonable prices compared to Berlin, London, Cologne, Paris, etc.
Just think of all the visitors that come to Brussels for business meetings, EU meetings, multinational companies, professional exhibitions, etc.
Clearly they were using the wrong travel agent or booking service.........or could it simply be that delegates would prefer a change of venue and that the majority of the FI fishing companies are connected to .......euuuhhh ........Spanish fishing companies?
I grant you that off-season hotel rooms are probably cheaper in Barcelona than in Brussels and also that the weather may be better there, but let's be honest about the real reasons!!!
@29 Marcos Alejandro,
May 02nd, 2012 - 10:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0You're as bad as johnfarrell's “the whole world” with your “everybody knows”
You live in a fantasy world, mon.
The Falklands do not belong to Argentina, never have & never will.
“Few hundred millionaires” ha ha. We nearly are but not quite, Marcos.
There will be some very rich people here when the oil starts flowing though.
Don't you wish you were part of it, Marcos?
You could have been if Nestor hadn't........................you know what the idiot did, don't you, Marcos?
Tried the bullyboy tactics & because they didn't work, he threw a tantrum. (sound of tearing paper) lol.
Suck it up baby.
35 lsolde Feeling the pressure Isolde? Relax, take a deep breath and watch the inevitable outcome.
May 02nd, 2012 - 03:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Let's look at the inevitable outcome:
May 02nd, 2012 - 03:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0UN: Dear Falklanders what would you like to be, British or Argentine?
Falklanders: British!!!!
UN: OK well that's over and done with. Good bye Mr. Timmerman.
That's not the inevitable outcome is just your wish.
May 02nd, 2012 - 03:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Not my wish, REALITY!!!
May 02nd, 2012 - 04:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The question is on what grounds to the Falklanders demand Argentina resume negotiations over fishing quotas?
May 02nd, 2012 - 06:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If Argentina regards her waters as sovereign, then it can catch whatever she wishes in the waters.
I personally am not a Malvinista as they are called here, and have never demanded the Falklanders “negotiate” sovereignty. I agree that is a non-starter.
But they have to understand it is a non-starter to have Argentina negotiate her own economic waters. So when I read people say “the south Atlantic is the onl region on Earth that does not have Fishing management and agreements”, well that means nothing. If the other regions of the world's oceans have nations that want to compromise their sovereignty that's fine it is their right.
Argentina has no obligation to sit down to “ration” her own territory.
@40 tobias
May 02nd, 2012 - 06:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They haven’t “demanded” anything, only expressed a desire to resume discussions, on an issue which is demonstrably in both parties interest.
As species migrate from one territory to the other, or are found in both, overall stocks can only be managed by the co-operation of both jurisdictions.
There is no sovereignty issue involved here, other than Argentina having to talk to a sovereignty they don’t recognise.
It does not mean the Islanders get any say in Argentinian policy or territory, simply that both agree similar policies, in their respective territories.
@42
May 02nd, 2012 - 07:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I disagree. Any discussion fore fishing management inevitably means restrictions on exercise of economic sovereignty, and Argentina should never sit down to discuss that with anyone, be it Falklands, Uruguay, Brazil, whomever.
Argentina decides what to do in its own waters and informs no one (it has no obligation to even let anyone know, much less agree on policies), then the other countries deal with the issue outside our waters. If fish migrate to the Falklands or migrate from Brazil to Argentina to feed in the summer, too bad, quite honestly.
@ Marcos Alejandro @1
May 02nd, 2012 - 07:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I find it offensive that you to refer to the Falkland Islanders as 'squatters'. Please show them more respect.
@ 42 tobias
May 02nd, 2012 - 08:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Of course Argentina can chose not to participate if it wishes, and do as it wishes within it’s own waters.
However co-operation does improve the chances of there being sustainable fisheries, without it there is frankly no hope.
Do you want there to be fish for future generations, or not, is the question.
Ok
May 02nd, 2012 - 08:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hypothetically.
What happens if an argentine fishing boat accidental scoops up Falklands fishes,
Do they throw them back, or take them anyway.
Sensible answers only please,
.
@45
May 02nd, 2012 - 08:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well, the Falkland Islanders actually would need to first afford others the rights of self-determination they so ardently want for themselves.
I would invite them to ask the Fish if they want to be someone's tilapia/fish and chips. I wonder if they asked the fishes for their self-determination how many profits they would make then.
we thinks, that if you gave all the mamals/sea creatures a say, in who has rights to them, or the right to eat them,
May 02nd, 2012 - 09:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0then we pridict that the human race will have to live without sea food ever again.
Tobias,
May 02nd, 2012 - 11:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thats it. Brilliant,
We'll ask the fishes who they want to eat them.
Why didn't we think of this before?
Briton,
We can't have that!
Self determination for the fishes?
Better watch it or Cristina will be after you!
ha ha
May 03rd, 2012 - 08:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well, the point was Argentina will never again negotiate its territorial economic zone with the Falklanders, that was my analogy to asking the fishes their self-determination. So the South Atlantic will remain the “only area in the world without fishery agreements”.
May 03rd, 2012 - 09:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Falklanders will simply have make due with the fishing resources that venture into their waters.
and your waters are officaly what,
May 03rd, 2012 - 10:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0is it 3 miles or 12 miles from the argentina coast line,
the same for the islands,
out side of this, is international waters , is it not .
Nope, that is territorial waters.
May 03rd, 2012 - 10:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Economic waters extend a couple hundred km out....
so how far then, is argentinian territorial
May 03rd, 2012 - 10:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0waters, according to argentina .
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@53
May 04th, 2012 - 01:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0According to agreed treaties, it is something like a 200km exclusivity zone. In areas where there are two 200km zones overlapping, then it is less, but obviously it is 200km along most of Argentina's coastline since the Falklands are only in the far far south of Santa Cruz province.
@55tobias,
May 04th, 2012 - 09:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0Actually, Santa Cruz belongs to us.
We were there long before Argentina.
Maybe even Chubut & TDF as well.
Bul l'd be happy with just Sta Cruz,
After “negotiations” of course.♥
patagonia belongs to the british, and at least 60/70% of argentina today belongs to other parts of south america, does it not .
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@56 & 57
May 04th, 2012 - 10:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We will stand by the self-determination of the Santa Crucenños and Chubutenses, they want to remain argentine nationals and so they will remain.
The remainer of the 60-70 percent of Argentina that USED to belong to nations like Chile, Bolivia, Paraguay and Uruguay are ours now. They fought wars with us, we won, or signed treaties handing the lands over, we won.
Both policies of self-determination and winning a war are consistent with British practice in the Falklands.
sorry not justified
May 04th, 2012 - 11:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@59 tobias,
May 05th, 2012 - 10:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0But tobias, the populaton of those provinces are “implanted”.
They were brought there by Argentina.
Of course they will vote to stay Argentine.
You must know that self-determination does not apply to them. lol.lol
why has not the C24 disbanded argentina into little independent countries by now,
May 05th, 2012 - 10:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0hurry up
Argentina is a product of colonialism, conquered by the sword, most of the natives killed and infected by disease, their land taken from them and worked by imported African slaves, oversean by imported European colonials. The African's who made up 50% of the population would themselves completely disapear from Argentina between 1850-1900 in what could have been a chilling fore runner to the disareances of the Dirty War in the 1970's when an estimated 30,000 Argentines were raped, tortured and murdered, many more were held illegally in detention camps and tortured. The true figure for the dead could be as high as 100,000, no one knows because there is little official documentation and most bodies were dumped in the sea.
May 08th, 2012 - 02:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina took land from its neighbours in numberous wars , civil wars and land grabs - Paraguay, Uraguay, Chile. Today Argentina despite the changed political landscape is still a nation characterised by uber nationalism. The claim to the Falklands was surendered in 1850 but reserected in 1941 by a fascist junta, which inc Peron, they thought their friends the Nazi were going to win the war, the Falklands looked easy picking.
In 1982 Argentina was under the latest succession of a series of fascism military junta's. Their hold on power was looking precarious, in deperation they sort a war, Chile looked like a good victim, they already claimed lots of land and were ignoring the international tribunals that had ruled in Chile's favor. But then they changed their mind and invaded the Falklands. Today the war is romanticized by a nation ruled by a kind of cross between a Neo-Nazi uber nationalist and a Charvesta Revolutionary uber Marxist. The only thing missing is the land reform. Maybe that's for later? But as few natives remain, maybe they'll just ignore their rights... God knows they always have. An entire culture replaced by a European one. Entire languages destroyed.
Timmerman should take time to read about his country's history.
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