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Brazilian discomfort: ends automatic import licences for Argentine perishables

Wednesday, May 16th 2012 - 01:27 UTC
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Brazil this week escalated a growing trade fight with Argentina by increasing the bureaucratic obstacles for importing about 10 perishable products including apples, raisins, and potatoes, a senior Brazilian government official was quoted by the media. Read full article

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  • Chicureo

    Well well well... what do we have here. Sanctions by giving the same medicine back to Argentina. I truly feel sorry for the growers, but this is simply the beginning.

    May 16th, 2012 - 01:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • tobias

    Basically, the Americans, Brazilians, Europeans, and other Latin Americans want unrestricted access to argieland, but put all kinds of barriers (USA), subsidies (EU, and exchange rate gimmicks (China, Brazil devaluing their currencies), and we are supposed to just take up our ass.

    Nope. Bring it on honestly.

    May 16th, 2012 - 01:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • PirateLove

    Brazil today whos next, Argenweener you pushed and pushed now you will reap what you sow.

    May 16th, 2012 - 01:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • tobias

    @3

    Bring it on, biatch. Let see how far you take it.

    May 16th, 2012 - 02:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • PirateLove

    @4 Argenweener does more damage to itself than any other country could, so the answer is how far will Argenweener take it before it implodes up its own ass, all truly entertaining and a joy to behold.

    psss.... it maybe a good time to become something else other than Argenswine.

    May 16th, 2012 - 02:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • PirateRock

    HAHAHAHAHA...Bring it on,Biatch........good one Tobias!
    Now bend over and do as your told.

    May 16th, 2012 - 02:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • tobias

    Nope. Now what?

    May 16th, 2012 - 03:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    “Argentina does not want to start a trade war.” Sound like hostililities just started and news from the Western Front does not look that good either.

    May 16th, 2012 - 04:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Fido Dido

    the problem of Argentina is, it cannot compete, even if it tries to cheat.

    May 16th, 2012 - 05:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    The problem with them is trust and respect. No one can trust them to respect any agreements they sign up to.

    May 16th, 2012 - 05:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • A.J.Rimmer

    The problem with Argentina, is that it's filled with Argentinians

    May 16th, 2012 - 06:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    Wow! Is this the end of the being? Or the beginning of the end?

    “Be careful what you wish for, you might just get it!”

    May 16th, 2012 - 06:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Beef

    Tobias - say that to your workers who will feel the full force of this action. Tell them that thier poverty (made worse by your worthless currency) is in the national interest. Let your lunatic leader keep treating herself to luxury while your nation continues to slide into further insignificance.

    Bring it on.

    May 16th, 2012 - 09:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ManRod

    Nice Brasil! Let the fun begin!

    I hope, our government will follow this path too...

    May 16th, 2012 - 09:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • RobWilliams

    lol, just LOL.

    May 16th, 2012 - 09:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    As the article says trade disputes between the two giants of mercosur are really quite common. At the political level these two countries ruled by women committed to human rights and development as a BRAZILIAN official put it in a recent story her remain close

    May 16th, 2012 - 10:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Chilean perspective

    Everyone knew that the Kirchner economic model was not going to last. You simply cannot print money like crazy, block almost all imports, ban the purchase of foreign currency, falsify GDP and inflation numbers, prosecute independent economists who dare speak the truth, nationalize and in the case of YPF steal private property with no compensation, harass a sovereign government (Falklands), refuse to pay creditors, and fill the cabinet posts with crooks. To name a few.
    This is the beginning of the end. Next stop stagflation, followed by a run on the banks. Then devaluation, gradually at first but in short order growing to a slaughter of the peso as the printing presses run red hot in a futile attempt to keep liquidity.
    I am truly sad because I always thought that Nestor Kirchner had some chance of pulling off this colossal keynesian experiment. Too bad he died, so we'll never know.
    As a true believer of Von Misses and F.A. Hayek, I wanted this to work, just to prove me and my homies wrong even though science tells me that this experiment would ultimately fail. It's a little bit like warp drive. It could work, but it aint gonna.

    May 16th, 2012 - 11:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    Brazil knows its neighbour well and has cleverly chosen to target perishable goods. Argentina cannot look long-term on anything so there has to be instant consequences for them to take notice.

    @17 I think the model would have failed anyway but at least Nestor might have had the intelligence to change course when he could see it failing. CFKC was never meant to be President without Nestor telling her what to do. She is clueless and the result is evident.

    May 16th, 2012 - 11:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • malen

    Timerman and Patriota are in Brazilia talking, talking (sth we do to make accords and arrengements) and there are 120 days of tregua en trabas comerciales cruzadas.
    MFP (Mass media Fakland Press) always biased in everything they say.

    May 16th, 2012 - 11:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Brazil needs to tread very carefully here, they know Argentina is on the brink of total collapse and they will have to help them out of it. The problem is Brazil is also going into a mild recession and can't spare $ for their neighbor.
    CFK has created a complete mess of this country and it is going to get really ugly very soon.
    I hear they may run out of nat gas this winter since they can't find LNG at any price! That was a great payback from Repsol a cold RGs is not a happy RG if they restrict consumer use it may spell the quick end of the K dynasty.

    May 16th, 2012 - 12:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Self Determination

    @20
    After the Repsol f... up,they have ordered to consignments of LNG from B.P.at a price 25% higher .I hope B.P. get paid pro forma {in dollars}.

    May 16th, 2012 - 12:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @17 What are you talking about? My warp-drive works fine.

    May 16th, 2012 - 12:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    News in the fruit sector is now Argentina plans to lobby Washington DC to open the market for lemons, even though the reason why they cannot trade has to do with Argentine phytosanitary problems. Really ignorant strategy.

    May 16th, 2012 - 01:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    21. ARG can't find the LNG the supply is already committed. It is going to be cold in BA.
    I hope they can figure out how to use the bio-fuel not going to EU to cook their food and heat their homes.
    Brr.

    May 16th, 2012 - 01:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • malen

    It was created a bilateral comission to discuss this themes in Brazilia, news of yesterday. Yesterday.
    Más mentiras Fackland Pathetic Press again.

    May 16th, 2012 - 01:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    25. Aren't the trade rules well established already in MeroSur? Why oh why would they need yet another bi-lateral committee discussion?

    Is it because Arg doesn't want to adhere to the contract...hmm maybe..

    May 16th, 2012 - 01:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @26 I think it's because Mercosur is fundamentally over. It's just the EU delegation are made up of very very lazy South Europeans who have 6 hour lunch breaks with 1 sleep in the middle of the day and Brazilians know they're marginally furked if Argentina goes tits-up and so has it's head in the sand.

    when are these people going to wake up? WAKE UP PEOPLE!

    May 16th, 2012 - 02:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    #27 When hyperinflation hits they'll wake from their slumber and blame it on the Spaniards, English, World Bank, IMF.................
    Predictable and serves them right.

    May 16th, 2012 - 02:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Simon68

    28 Chicureo (#)
    May 16th, 2012 - 02:10 pm

    We are saved!!! Tomorrow Kretina reaches the land of Argentina's hopes... ANGOLA, land of oportunity where we will sell 18 harvesting machines that haven't been made yet. That is how Kretina with the help of her acolyte Guille Moreno, better known as Bill, will save the great Argentine people from the monster of hyperinflation!!!!!

    How lucky we are to have Santa Kretina looking after our well being. I feel sorry for you poor Chilenos, Brazileiros, Uruguayos, Peruanos and Colombianos who are not in the Bolivarianosphere. JAJAJAJAJAJA,etc. Brit losers and so on.

    May 16th, 2012 - 02:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    No truck operator can afford to haul these cargoes now.

    Can you imagine any Argie farmer paying 60 days in advance in case they don't get a licence soon enough?

    They would have to run chilled trucks to spin out the freshness window which will also add to costs.

    Well done The Mad Bitch!

    May 16th, 2012 - 05:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    Let’s face facts here,
    CFK has been pushing her luck for long enough,
    She thought she had the world on her side over the Falklands, so naturally she thought she would take on the EU , then Spain , then the US now brazil.

    And guess what, her loyal deluded devoted bloggers backed her all the way, with their, anti brit rhetoric,

    And now its all coming apart at the seems.
    And her bloggers are running scared, they are ashamed and embarrassed, but just cant admit they were and are, brain washed, and wrong, so out comes the anti brit, and abuse,
    They will say and do anything so, as to give the impression they didn’t really supported her in the first place,

    You Argies have as much chance of winning your national lottery 10 times over, than you are of getting anywhere, with this deluded woman at the helm.

    Just an opinion,
    True all the same …lol.
    .

    May 16th, 2012 - 06:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Max

    the Brazilians have wont of ruminate eating style...however...
    the perishable foods should be consumed as soon as possible.!

    May 16th, 2012 - 07:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    31 briton

    But what a choice they have!! Keep the b*tch and see the country run into the ground in short order, Get rid of the b*tch and “who ate all the pies?” Maximo steps up to the plate ( plate?? get it?? ) so which ever way you slice it, the country is still f**ked!!

    May 16th, 2012 - 08:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    ha ha very good

    May 16th, 2012 - 08:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard2

    Signourey-Dilma takes on Alien-Christina
    .... “OK, come ON, you BITCH!”

    Unfortunately, these end-games become a lose-lose situation.
    A-C may die, but S-D will be seriously damaged in the process of 'winning'.

    And so South America once more returns to the third world..... but you just can't reason with an alien queen.

    May 16th, 2012 - 08:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Ernie4001

    Some storytellers may say that Argentina is only retaliating over some protectionism measures of another countries but that´s completely false since in the case of Peru and Chile, Argentina enjoys an enormous surplus and set conditional import licenses anyways, so it´s very easy to see who´s lying here. And the brazilian did what was expectable so now let´s wait who moves next against moreno´s policies.

    May 17th, 2012 - 02:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Truth_Telling_Troll

    @36

    If Argentina restricts products from one country, it must restrict products from ALL countries.

    Doing otherwise would be unfair.

    I had never thought about it like that before, I think it was a great explanation by Moreno.

    May 17th, 2012 - 02:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    #17 “I am truly sad because I always thought that Nestor Kirchner had some chance of pulling off this colossal keynesian experiment. Too bad he died, so we'll never know.
    As a true believer of Von Misses and F.A. Hayek, I wanted this to work, just to prove me and my homies wrong even though science tells me that this experiment would ultimately fail. It's a little bit like warp drive. It could work, but it aint gonna”

    What a weird analysis, surely if you believe in neoliberalism you should be glad to see the opposition failing. Unless you doubt the morality of the system you still believe the most realistic, and secretly hope to be proven wrong by a successful alternative. Anyway I don't believe the K model is failing, of course its being attacked by powerful enemies but what would you expect?

    #18 Elaine we all know your views on Cristina's capabilities, I however would rather trust Nestor when he said she was going to be an even more accomplished president than him, and she has =)

    #31 I'm loyal and I'm not running scared, and obviously not anti-British either =)

    #35 Except that Cristina and Dilma are friends, see the quote I posted above. I like the idea of Dilma as Sigourney though, I can see the similarities in style, but Cristina as Alien?! I'm sure people can think of better actress/character comparisons than that...

    May 17th, 2012 - 11:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Condorito

    @35
    I love the image of this death match.
    However, not even Alien-CFK can stop Brazil’s rise.
    They have everything they need. Only 10% of their economy is exports.
    They have excellent technology. They are a well regarded member of the international community.
    They have immense soft-power. Who doesn’t like Brazil?
    There are large parts of Brazil that will remain in the 3rd world for some time, but the country as a whole is only going up.

    May 17th, 2012 - 02:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    “Who doesn’t like Brazil?”

    Scotland, when we were paired with them for the first world cup we qualified for in years! Sorry not the most political point but I couldn't resist!

    May 17th, 2012 - 03:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Condorito

    Didn't Scotland score an own goal and then miss a penalty in that match?

    May 17th, 2012 - 05:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    41 Condorito

    Scotland are ALWAYS scoring own goals. The pratt Scottie_Kirchnerist is living proof of that.

    May 17th, 2012 - 06:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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