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Royal Navy expels Spanish Guardia Civil vessels from Gibraltar territorial waters
The Royal Navy expelled a Guardia Civil vessel from Gibraltar waters following an incursion by Spanish fishermen last week, in a clear sign that Britain will not tolerate any attempt to escalate the fishing row. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesThere's a sign for you, I hope Spain read the small print better on the Euro bailouts they're going to need better than the large print that was on the Treaty of Utrecht, otherwise they might find themselves complaining about that in 300 years time as well.
May 21st, 2012 - 05:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0Spanish Pirates jajajajajaja
May 21st, 2012 - 06:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0Just like you RG Colonialist friends.
You should see them motor when an 84mm gets fired in their general direction :)
May 21st, 2012 - 09:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0pushing of our borders, not good
May 21st, 2012 - 10:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0Economic troubles in Spain
May 21st, 2012 - 01:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0'What about Gibraltar to distract our people,' said the Spanish politician.
Sound familiar...?????
'But do not forget the millions of British tourists, and other financial help from Britain,' said Captain sensible.
And the Brits never even had to leave port!
May 21st, 2012 - 03:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Even better than Argie bashing this!
I am crying with laughter while I am typing this: they are such 'ferocious' opponents. LOL :o)
Unfortunately, the last government of Gibraltar made a slight mistake. In an effort to be “friendly” with the 18th century country across the border, they set aside one of their own laws and let some fishermen fish up to 225 yards from Gibraltar's shore. Now, the new government has decided that the law must be properly and universally applied. The Spanish fishermen don't like this because they've already caught all the fish for 10 miles along the coast in one direction and their own government won't let them fish in the other direction. This has placed them in the difficult position where they either have to steal fish from British Gibraltar Territorial Waters or get real jobs.
May 21st, 2012 - 04:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Fortunately, the clown from over the border, who hasn't been in the “job” five minutes, is looking for “strategic patience”. This means that he knows that if he told the world the truth, the world would laugh itself sick at how stupid his country is and has been since the 1960s. “The territorial claim was formally reasserted by the Spanish dictator Francisco Franco in the 1960s and has been continued by successive Spanish governments. They have insisted that the Gibraltar dispute is a purely bilateral matter and that the current Gibraltarians are mere settlers whose role and will are irrelevant.” Now where have we heard that before? In an interesting twist, Spain says Gibraltar has no territorial waters because they aren't mentioned in the Treaty of Utrecht. There are only a couple of problems with this contention. Having read the Treaty, it seems it doesn't mention Spain's territorial waters either! The other problem is that the concept of “territorial waters” wasn't internationally accepted until the late 18th century. There's some other country that acts the same way. Makes stuff up. Lies. Makes a nuisance of itself. Anyhow, things are looking up. The Gibraltar Squadron has flexed a couple of fingers and HMS Talent (S92) is on its way to the South Atlantic!
no argies on here then.
May 21st, 2012 - 06:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0oh just as well
lol
Spain's biggest industry is Tourism.
May 21st, 2012 - 06:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The UK takes more tourists to Spain than any other country and spends the most money.
Britain could cripple Spain, if those tourists went elsewhere.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourism_in_Spain
Considering the people of Gibraltar are mostly ethnically Spanish, speak Spanish and have Spanish surnames, yet they choose to remain British, what hope do the Argies have of convincing the Falkland Islanders to turn their back on the UK?
May 21st, 2012 - 07:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The funniest thing about the Gibraltar situation is that it really infuriates the Spanish. The second funniest thing is that once they are infuriated you can point out that a stone’s throw from Gibraltar is Ceuta, a Spanish enclave in Morocco and they can’t see the parallel.
Anyway, seeing as the European common fishery agreement allows the Spanish to fish all over the EU, they can hardly complain about 5 kms of coast.
10 Condorito
May 21st, 2012 - 10:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and when we get out of this corupt gravy train, that fishing agreement will be dumpt,
and tha spannish with it .
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May 22nd, 2012 - 01:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That would make the Spain situation far worse in the pride department. The Falklanders are not argentines who want to remain British. Now that would be ridiculous. But as you know, there is no such thing. No Argentine would ever choose another nationality for a land near or in argentine territory.
In fact, it's been historically the opposite: Tarija in Bolivia, recently the ranchlands in the north shore of the Pilcomayo in Paraguay, and some towns in Southern Chile (Aisen, Natales, etc), have shown some degree of public openess to consider switching to Argentina.
I still wonder why those people are not allowed self-determination.
@TTT
May 22nd, 2012 - 02:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes I agree, in “the pride department” it is worse. If the Spanish people who live on the Spanish mainland want to remain British, then there is no hope in hell that British peoples living 300 miles from Argentina will want to become Argies.
With regards to Aisen, the recent protests there have made some locals claim they want to be Argies. I think if they held a referendum the majority would still want to be Chilean.
All the same, that part of Chile was settled by people coming over from Argentina so they have a lot of links with Argentina. Same as in Punta Arenas. Logistically Aisen is very isolated from the rest of Chile.
In fact Aisen is so isolated that there are 3 species of marsulial that survive there. It is an amazingly beautiful place and I would recommend anyone to go there and drive the carretera austral.
But the fact they publicly make such statements is an indication of problems. Have you ever seen any town in Argentina (even if it was a minority), saying “we want to switch to Brazil, or Uruguay, or Chile!?” ... anyway I simply used them as examples.
May 22nd, 2012 - 02:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I would recommend the carretera austral too. In that part of the world you feel the Ice Age never left.
No, I don't think I have ever heard of a case of an Arg town that wants to be part of Chile. Possibly due to the historically depreciative view Argies take of their neighbours. Anyway, I really think the “adopt us Argentina” posters were to grab a headline.
May 22nd, 2012 - 02:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The only part of Chile where there is a genuine problem with national loyalty is Easter Island – luckily there is no one significant, close enough to adopt them. That said, last time I was there some of the locals showed me their French passports. They had dual nationality. Many of the Polynesian islanders have family links with Tahiti so they can opt for a French passport. Interestingly, the ethnic Polynesians admit to a closer cultural affinity with New Zealand than with Chile, due to the privileged status of the Maori in that country. That’s not too far off topic is it?
Talking of great drives, have you ever driven over the Paso Aguas Negras?
Nope. I never have driven either Austral or Aguas Negras. I've just seen pictures of the former.
May 22nd, 2012 - 05:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's on my list along the Paso Jama in the far north, and the length of RN40 from La Quiaca to Cabo Virgenes.
So, the Spanish throwing the dummy out of the pram and showing the world, once again, that they are an immature ‘democracy’.With 3km of coastline to Spain’s 8,000km, who believes that this is actually about fishing. What a joke. They keep on harping on about a treaty from 1713 but it’s now 2012 and it would seem that no one there has read the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Seas, article 19 of which they have now broken on two consecutive nights and plenty before then.It seems they have no qualms about rudely snubbing our Queen, defying the Royal Navy in British Gibraltar territorial waters and then no doubt, coming to Cameron for help with their floundering economy. Something should be done about the constant bullying that the Gibraltarians are subjected to.. The saddest thing is that by creating massive queues at the border (a European border which should be fluid) the GC are making the lives of circa 7,000 Spanish workers that go into Gibraltar every day to earn a living (which they can’t do in their country) hell. Not that the government cares about them, to them these people are merely collateral damage in their political games.Nice place Spain, nice people mostly, pathetic government. Plenty of other places for the British to go imo. It will be their loss in the end.
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May 25th, 2012 - 04:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You can't see the wood for trees, and you can't see the pending crash in Spain for the rock of Gibraltar............
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