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EU files suit against Argentina with WTO, but it’s a long process
The European Union filed a suit against Argentina's import restrictions with the World Trade Organization (WTO), European Union Trade Commissioner Karel De Gucht announced on Friday. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesTime has taught me that when EU presents an accusation together with an excuse to why it wont be passed, it all results in a big nothing :)
May 25th, 2012 - 04:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Its a long process they say, yet the last thing the EU has right now is time!
May 25th, 2012 - 04:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think the EU are wasting their time with Argentina, it is after all a failing economy due to mismanagement and thievery at the top.
May 25th, 2012 - 04:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Even if the EU 'win' what will Argentina do? Pull up the drawbridge to Fortress Argentina and crawl inside her shell.
What they WILL NOT DO is abide by any judgement which goes against them.
@2 the EU has a lot more time than KFC. She's stopping locals traveling abroad now!
May 25th, 2012 - 05:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 4 KFC de Pollo
May 25th, 2012 - 05:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No she is not stopping anyone, in fact a friend of mine went to NewYork two days ago.
I am an RG and I don't like CFK at all, but please, post true info, thanks bye
Time isn't really an issue. The EU can afford to be without trade with Argentina - certainly more so than Argentina can afford to be without the EU's trade - and ultimately the easiest and most palatable solution will simply be to ban all trade with Argentina .. and given CFK's behaviour of late, even Spain isn't going to be leaping to Argentina's defence (hell, it is Spain, not the UK, who are the main instigators of this action through the EU and WTO)
May 25th, 2012 - 06:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0skåre
May 25th, 2012 - 06:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Spain tried that road, but Brazil told them that no trade with Argentina would mean no trade with Brazil. A week later Spain was calling the YPF/Repsol affair a “minor issue”...
Guzz
May 25th, 2012 - 06:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, but it is now at the EU level and there has never been any love lost between Brazil and Spain.
skåre
May 25th, 2012 - 06:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Mayhap, but Brazil didn't speak for itself, but more as a member of Mercosur. Either trade with the whole bloc, or trade with no one in it...
As I said, it was speaking to Spain. Neither Mercosur nor Brazil are going to offer that sort of support to Argentina is it endangers the free trade agreement between the EU and Mercosur. Don't forget that Brazil has many valued relationships with European countries - even a recently renewed defence treaty with the UK - and very many of its own long-running problems with Argentina.
May 25th, 2012 - 07:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There is no unconditional grand alliance ready to defend Argentina;s interests. CFK may try to portray it as such, but the evidence is very clearly to the contrary.
I might be on deep water, but I'm pretty sure there is no FTA between Mercosur and the EU... Correct me if I'm wrong, not with words, with facts.
May 25th, 2012 - 07:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Alliances defending Argentina are, except the Mercosur, also the Celac (replacement for the OAS)...
As I have said Mercosue will be a footnote in history very shortly...wait and see.
May 25th, 2012 - 07:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Mayhap you are right yankeeboy, but I can promise you you wont like the replacement a bit :)
May 25th, 2012 - 07:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I didn't say there was an FTA - but the EU and Mercosur are in the final stages of negotiating an FTA .. an agreement which Argentina has jeopardised with its recent actions in both the Falklands and its dealings over Repsol.
May 25th, 2012 - 07:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Put to the test, the where more than just words are asked for, the continental loyalties will not be with Argentina.
You really think Europe will open up their market for Mercosur's agriculture? You do know the main reason as to why that FTA is taking its time, don't you?
May 25th, 2012 - 07:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Absolutely, if Mercosur opens its industrial sector to the European Union - and, if not, Brazil will get its own agreement (and even without such an agreement, Brazil's loyalty to Argentina does not extend to turning its back on the more than US $45 billion worth of exports it currently sells to the EU).
May 25th, 2012 - 07:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That day will be the doomsday of the farmers in Europe, just saying...
May 25th, 2012 - 07:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are wrong there. France has a new president.
May 25th, 2012 - 07:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You'll see a Brazil and Uruguay FTA with USA before one is reached with EU. Uruguay's is already done it just needs to be updated and then passed sometime next year.
May 25th, 2012 - 09:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0EU should cease any FTA negotiation with Argentina as long as Argentina's economic embargo of an EU member Overseas Territory - Falkland Islands -continues.
May 25th, 2012 - 11:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Has there ever been any precedent as to what happens when the side filing the suit at the WTO wins the case, but by the time they do they “no longer exists”?
May 26th, 2012 - 02:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0It could happen, with the EU winning against Argentina, but no one there to celebrate the victory... :o
Oh tobias, we can safely say that EU will still be around long after Argentina vanished up its own arsehole.
May 26th, 2012 - 04:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0We can also safely say your honesty vanished through the same orifice long ago.
May 26th, 2012 - 01:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina will be around longer than the EU, UK, and USA.
Dude, keep deluding yourself because Argentina is cooked and wont even exist by 2025
May 26th, 2012 - 03:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Depends what you term as Argentina.
May 26th, 2012 - 03:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The regions all kow-towing to BsAs? That I think is where the change will occur but who knows and really, who GAF?
Just like the UN , by the time the EU gets anything moving,
May 26th, 2012 - 06:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0CFK will be in the place as Cleopatra,
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You say that as an insult but I think you'r right, even if she loses Cristina will live in history as an icon of perpetual fascination like Cleopatra. But I see no reason to assume she's going to lose =)
May 26th, 2012 - 11:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No separatist movements in Argentina.
May 27th, 2012 - 01:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0EU is as friable as a pre-Gutemberg book, the USA is growing to ideologically divided by regions, and the UK we know very well is being held together by prayers and chants.
Sorry, Argentina will be long after the rest of you are in the dustbin of history.
28 tobias
May 27th, 2012 - 08:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0we hope you will come back here in 300 years time, and prove that .
We aren't talking 300 years, we are talking about the facts now. If you guys don't like the facts, tough cookie. Funny how you can't seem to accept arguments that aren't exactly flattering to your causes, but mock argies for not accepting the Falklands current status.
May 28th, 2012 - 02:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 030 tobias
May 28th, 2012 - 03:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That is because they deny the facts in favour of the Peronista lies.
Treaty of Perfect Peace 1850, we kicked you out of the Falklands in 1982.
END OFF. STFU.
No, the topic here is the EU vs Argentina, and I raised a LEGITIMATE point of what happens if the EU as an entity is no longer extant by the time this legal process is adjudicated.
May 28th, 2012 - 05:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Given current events, am I really out there with such postulation?
Then of course, tendentious loathers like yourself and the other anti-argies had to retort that it would be Argentina that would no longer exist, when there is absolutely no basis to make such an asseveration. I just naturally rejoindered that at PRESENT, the existence of the UK, EU, and USA seems more tenuous and frangible, on the basis the real facts on the ground, from the EU crisis, to the Scotland question, to ideological separatism in the US.
As of now it seems Argentina will exist beyond the lifetimes of your nimbus imbued master nations.
32 tobias
May 28th, 2012 - 06:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0OK. “No separatist movements in Argentina”.
The long-term existence of Argentina is not only contingent with the lack of separatist movements, what about the utter breakdown of law and order and civil unrest leading to fragmentation along economic lines?
BTW, small point it's GuteNberg. :o)
@33
May 28th, 2012 - 06:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So, tell us how Argetina disintegrated in 2001.
You people have such an transmogrified perception of Argentina's economic problems, you people actually do believe it is some cort of cross between Zimbabwe, Afghanistan, Somalia, and Haiti.
That's not my problem, that is your problem, and your ignorance.
There is no unrest in the country on the basis of regional or econonic fragmentation of provinces.
34 tobias
May 28th, 2012 - 09:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So why all the riots, the union strikes, the stoppages, the river pilots holding everybody to ransom, etc. if there is economic stability.
AND, we were posting about the future break-up.
34 tobias
May 28th, 2012 - 09:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Once again you go over the top,
It does not matter [in fact]
If the EU collapsed tomorrow, [Tuesday
And on [Thursday] the mighty USA collapsed,
The fact is, as you put it, as long as the Falkland islanders want to remain British, then we will defend that right,
Now if you cant except that, then it is your problem, not ours.
Argentina can collapse just as easy as the rest of the world,
Is this not true.
Stop being pragmatic .
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@35
May 29th, 2012 - 03:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Where have there been riots? Another lie?
Strikes, oh my... You really do live in Uruguay and not in the UK anymore.
Now you are changing your tune. Economic issues is a far cry from a country breaking up.
@36
Nope, Argentina can't collapse as easy because we have a special kind of allegiance to the country. Separatism is not part of our culture. Argentina is here to stay, for 1000 years.
well we admire your confidence,
May 29th, 2012 - 06:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0we would like you to prove that ,
as the out come would be truly interesting .
37 tobias
May 29th, 2012 - 06:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I have told you I do not lie. Try reading BsAs Herald for riots.
If you keep on like this I will stop replying to you as will many other reasonable people on here.
he needs a brak,
May 29th, 2012 - 07:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0give him a kit-kat .
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