MercoPress. South Atlantic News Agency
Argentine government wants to regulate the black market for US dollars
Senator and former cabinet chief Aníbal Fernández said on Sunday that the Argentine government is planning, from the open of the black market on Monday, to put pressure on money exchange traders in order for the ‘blue’ dollar rate to not go over 5.10 Argentine Pesos. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesLol oh my god, talk abut smacks of desperation!!!
Jun 04th, 2012 - 08:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0oh just three more words - ARGENTINA IS FINNISHED!!!!
Hehehehehehehe Lol
Lets see, regulate a black market, no, does make sense. Try it again, regulate a black market, no still does not make sense!
Jun 04th, 2012 - 08:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0& 1 ...& 2
Jun 04th, 2012 - 08:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0You extraordinary economists........
What is your advice/proposal for Argentina ?
How can a 'legitimate' government regulate something that is illegal? That's what the black market is, something done under the official radar.
Jun 04th, 2012 - 09:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0Even if the Argentine government managed to regulate (or legalise) the current black market, new ones would spring up out of their control, where people could exchange as much money as they wished without government interference. That's why these people use the black market in the 1st place to avoid official notice.
It's a stupid statement regarding a futile endeavour. The Argentine government might as well try to regulate fences, carjackers, rapists, murderers or bank robbers for all the good it would do.
I find it disturbing that these people are allowed to run a country.
@3 Emmigrate!!!!!!!
Jun 04th, 2012 - 09:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0@3 follow reality check's advice as its the only option you have left.
Jun 04th, 2012 - 09:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0Basically its now to late to save argentinas economy, their recent actions have only but sped up the looming collapse. Basically only massive devaulation would save the economy, but due to the way they have ran the economy the last decade resulting in the high inflation, such a devalution would send inflation rocketing to the 50%+ mark which would be unsubstainable. The government in argentina does not have the resources or the funds to support the economy or repair it. To put it bluntly, 2001 was bad, but what your facing now will make 2001 look like just a bump in the road.
Can somebody please this idiot along with Anibal Fernandez?
Jun 04th, 2012 - 11:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0They are both are out of control.
This show is getting more & more hillarious.
Jun 04th, 2012 - 11:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0Normally you have to pay good money to be entertained like this.
But here its free!
What's next, Argentina?
Making bank robbers pay tax on what they stole? lol
Chief clown CFK & her incompetent crew of tossers,
Broadway or Hollywood, here we come.
Surreal
Jun 04th, 2012 - 11:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0What about regulating Anibal's own Dollar savings discovered some days ago?
Jun 04th, 2012 - 11:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0As I said many times this will be very fun to watch from afar the gov't sees control slipping away while it all comes crashing down around them.
Jun 04th, 2012 - 12:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The problem is the will fight like wild cornered animals because it is not just a job for them it is their Life, their families lives and their fortunes.
Coming out of power is dirty business in banana republics.
I suppose he took his pitol out and threatened them with it: 'that's the way to do it'.
Jun 04th, 2012 - 12:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Copyright: Punch & Judy 2012. :o)
It's OK everyone stay calm, they are going to put Evita on the bank notes! who in their right mind would want ugly old dollars now. However 5 reality check (#) this answer is by far and away the best one word comeback I've seen in ages, though thinking about it very good advice.
Jun 04th, 2012 - 01:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He is certainly going to sell ALL his dollars on the black market and the position is so big he will hold the price he fixes...Hahahhahahha!!!!!lol
Jun 04th, 2012 - 01:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They're predicating snow in BA tomorrow! There is a very good chance this cold snap will cause a blackout.
Jun 04th, 2012 - 02:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This is getting exciting!!
Sounds good, but how would one travel? You can not buy dollars or Euros, and NO country wants pesos. However, the official government web site does state that you could ask for drachmas, so maybe one could go to Greece.
Jun 04th, 2012 - 02:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Possibly the government could put another face besides Anibal to execute present this program.
Jun 04th, 2012 - 02:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Question for Simon, Think, Tobias: are there limits on the amount of Chilean Pesos you can buy?
Jun 04th, 2012 - 02:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The end of this article is just silly, the protests in 2001 and now are the opposite, and the fact that the 2001 ones were huge and poor while today's are small and rich should tell you all you need to know about that =)
Jun 04th, 2012 - 03:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Some of the protests were in La Boca too and not even Bolivians they the people who live there are rich.
Jun 04th, 2012 - 03:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Also this is just the beginning of the end..one black out and who knows...
brr
Argentina to ruglate the black market of money changers. That is the same as saying the Singapore gvt are going to regualte the price of cocaine or the Saudi gvt of setting prtice controls ont he alcohol black market.
Jun 04th, 2012 - 03:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This bunch are nuts.
Taken from the Economist 2.6.12:
Jun 04th, 2012 - 04:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0'From this week any Argentinina wanting to take a foreign holidy must not only provide his tax identification number but also tell the tax agency (AFIP) where and why he is going. Officials say this violation of privacy is needed to fight tax evasion and money laundering. In reality the reason is that the government of CFK is starting to run out of dollars. Since the inflation rate is over 25% the government is terrified of letting the Peso depreciate and is resorting to a seige economy.'
Desperate times...
Yankeeboy = picture him sorrounded by 2 tv sets and three laptops, a ham-radio, and a small window outside where you can see two or three parabolic antennas...
Jun 04th, 2012 - 04:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The TV sets are set both to Fox news and Fox News Business, the laptops are screeing WeatherUnderground, SMN.com.ar with the maps of antarctic cold fronts sweeping north towards the heartland of Argentina...and the other laptop glued to the online feed of C5N waiting for the cazelorazo live coverage.
Portable toilet seat too.
@23
Jun 04th, 2012 - 04:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Desperate times...
Mendoza is doing fine, tourism at another historic record, wine exports still up and while the crop was slightly down due to bad weather in the summer, fine wine production should set another record. Gearing up for the winter ski season (Mendoza has 4 resorts), and there is oil still pumping off the groud. 4 new shopping malls are opening up soon to augment our status as regional retail center.
Jun 04th, 2012 - 04:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0...well the closer to Chile you get the more productive you become ;)
Jun 04th, 2012 - 04:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As I asked earlier, are there restrictions on buying Chilean pesos?
There are none that I am aware. However, there may be limits imposed by the currency bureaus themselves, as they may have a limited supply of currencies outside dollars/euros.
Jun 04th, 2012 - 05:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0TTT
Jun 04th, 2012 - 05:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How’s the weather over there? Any Zonda this year?
Nice and sunny today over on this side of the Andes.
There must be something limiting the purchase of Chilean$, otherwise I would expect it to be seen as a haven for Argies with savings. Or maybe the Argies just don’t trust the Chilean$ enough.
How are these currency controls working with inter-bank transactions? For example, I have suppliers in Argentina, I pay them in USD but the funds go to their accounts in the USA. No problem there. But how does it work the other way round. If an Argentinean business needs to pay a supplier in USD what happens? Does the bank say, no we have used our USD for the month; or no, you have used your USD for the month. How is it working? Can anyone out there enlighten me on this.
“The protest appeared to have been limited to middle and upper class neighborhoods of Buenos Aires. ”
Jun 04th, 2012 - 06:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0bullsh*t when was Boca ever middle/upper class? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGEpcL88AA4
TN.com.ar headline..
Jun 04th, 2012 - 06:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No major changes: the parallel dollar sells for 5.97 and 4.50 the official
I wonder why Think isn't giving us his updates...hahahaha
@28
Jun 04th, 2012 - 06:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I would be engaging in sciolism if I commented about how larger businesses conduct non-cabotage financial transactions. I have no idea in all honesty.
Argentines are not programmed to think in other currencies other than local tender or US$, even the Euro never quite caught.
@29
There has been some gentrification of La Boca in the last 10 years. It is not universally working class or poor anylonger. First due to the concomitant of tourism, and now with the grandiose real estate projects in the area of the docks (which will be mostly immune to any economic measures), that is further to change. Eventually, and if the Riachuelo is finally “cleaned” (at least to a less filthy state like the Thames or Hudson), a parallel could be drawn in the future to what transpired in Harlem.
@31 those people are working class people. the protest was from people of all classes in all regions.
Jun 04th, 2012 - 06:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They want CFK and her corrupt cronies gone. The problem is more corrupt peronists are waiting in line to take over.
La Boca is not Puerto Madero. I would like to see the young man from Mendoza walk around La Boca at night and come out alive. Or even in the hours of daylight if you step away from the few tourist streets there.
Jun 04th, 2012 - 06:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(32) KFC de Pollo
Jun 04th, 2012 - 07:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Did you even watch that video before posting it as “Evidence”???
www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGEpcL88AA4
I have......
Quite badly filmed with a Smartphone it seems....
I can't see ANYBODY on that video.....
Just some lit windows on some high rise buildings at night.....
But the sound!
What beautiful quality!
What an overwhelming volume!
Sounds like if the guy was in the midst of a Boca River match!
Try to post some non-fake video next time.
What a Turnip…………….
33. Or take a little swim in the Riachuelo, that is the nastiest river I have ever smelled! When you leave via plane and pass over the basin it is literally black. You can see it emptying into the bay. I think the people who live on the banks have some of the highest cancer rates in the world!
Jun 04th, 2012 - 07:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I love the way he puts in The Hudson and Thames like he has ever seen them. I have seen both and NOTHING compares to how gross the Riachuelo is except for maybe Tigre. It China dirty!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cVvrpJ7tu8
Only an utter retard would read what I typed and concluded I equated the Riachuelo with the other two waterflows. Why let facts get in the way of further trolling...
Jun 04th, 2012 - 07:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Those riparian denizens indeed deserve compensation. I will support any future motions for them to be indemnified for the decades of the government turning a blind-eye to that environmental Gehenna.
As for La Boca, of course it is still a dodgy area outside the tourist places. But 10-15 years ago even the tourist places-- well they were not touristy whatsoever. (apologies for the anacoluthon). The hardest part of trying to restore a rough neighborhood is to make a beachhead. That beachhead has been made, and if the Riachuelo is trully dealt with and the other projects are calalyzed, then yes the area will change dramatically.
You are the jumping jacks,they pull the string and you dance !
Jun 04th, 2012 - 07:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If your intent wasn't to equate the rivers you could have left out the names all together so you clearly wanted to disparage them along with your countries disgrace.
Jun 04th, 2012 - 07:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0While we are on the subject of nasty waterways, Tigre, why people think that nasty water is fit to swim and or have some sort of recreation in is beyond me. I would never let my skin touch it.
When do you think they will shut off the nat gas to the mfg base? Or have the already?
It's mighty cold in BA
Brr
Not really a beachhead. If you go to the tourist area of La Boca before the throngs arrive - even in daylight - you are likely to be robbed at gunpoint*. And it is by no means safe even in the tourist streets. My friends from Buenos Aires do not feel at all safe in La Boca and they are a real cross-section of society.
Jun 04th, 2012 - 07:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I fail to see how, with the impending crash of the economy, La Boca is going to become 'gentrified'. You will need a personal rocket launcher to walk the streets there.
*Actually, you are likely to be robbed at gunpoint pretty much anywhere in Buenos Aires at the moment.
@34 hahahaha its obviously real. The whole city was protesting the corrupt twats who run the country.
Jun 04th, 2012 - 07:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Campora your time is up! the people want their country back!
Hmm...I actually said that if the Riachuelo was “clean” to the level of those two courses then it would be a triumph. Ho is that disparaging? Losening the screws a bit further today?
Jun 04th, 2012 - 07:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am a mild germophobe so I never swim in any river that has passed by any significant human settlement. Thankfully in Mendoza there's spots where you see the stream as it melts from the snow/glacier... so nice on hot summer days.
Some are paid similar salaries for similar things,and any of you who would be so foolish as to write honest opinions would be out on the streets looking for another job
Jun 04th, 2012 - 07:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0For the record I reported ElaineB's #39 reply. It is a clear attempt at scare-mongering to state you are “likely to be robbed at gunpoint”. Likely means “better than 50% chances”. That is either a wild exaggeration, a naive commentary by someone that has never set foot in the place, or a blatant lie.
Jun 04th, 2012 - 08:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think it is quite dangerous for people to bandy such misinformation, and in fact individuals like ElaineB are the most insidiously baneful kind. They adroitly foist falsehoods by interpolating them within their real-life personal experiences, in order to afford these mendacities the purport of undisputed veracity.
Trollers are easy to confute, but “serious” posters like ElaineB, who mostly express themselves in rational terms but then take advantage of this built trust with others to hoodwink them (and are cognizant of their acts), are the most difficult to combat.
43. Every single one of my friends ( and me) who live in BA have been mugged at least one time. So 50% might actually be on the low side.
Jun 04th, 2012 - 08:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I will be nice, pithy, and put it simply:
Jun 04th, 2012 - 08:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What should anyone believe you or Elaine, based on your attitudes about Argentina that are well recorded here? Thank you.
My family and I are travelling to BA for 10 days at the end of July. We have not been there since 2008 ( and 2004 before that) My biggest fear is getting robbed.
Jun 04th, 2012 - 08:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Any advise regarding transportation ? I never fear places that I travel to but somehow I worry about this place. I am trying to pick places for my kids (6 and 9) to see but all the violence news are making me wonder a lot. Out of the 4 of us I i am the one with best Spanish (the kids can curse very well I must say) but I don't sound like a local. I don't want us to be singled out and prone to crime.
Any advice will help. Thanks
My advice don't travel to places where you will be afraid. That is the biggest factor in being the victim of crime, evincing fear, excessive caution, and vacillation.
Jun 04th, 2012 - 08:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Go to Detroit, Baltimore, Chicago souh, East Los Angeles, Brooklyn, or Miami west of city center. At least you will be robbed at gunpoint in your language.
46. Don't wear expensive watches or jewelry just leave them at home. The kids shouldn't wear expensive jackets or tennis shoes either. Always call a Remise, never take a taxi after you go to an ATM, watch your wallet, camera and smartphone, you can get seriously hurt by someone stealing your them right out of your hands. Don't walk through parks at night and stay around people. Avoid Florida Ave at night.
Jun 04th, 2012 - 08:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ack I could go on and on...just be wary of everyone including the Police maybe especially the police. I am pretty sure they were in on it when I got mugged.
I know that anecdotes are frowned upon by some, but here goes: I have a business interest in regional tourism and I can say that 2-3% of our FITs (Foriegn Incoming Tourists) have been robbed in Buenos Aires. That is too high, but it is not a catastrophe.
Jun 04th, 2012 - 08:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0AmericanLight. Almost all cases of theft in BA that I have reported were “lanzas”. That involves a necklace or a watch being grabbed, sometimes a knife brought close to you to scare you. I wouldn't be over anxious about it.
I have no anecdotal evidence about the rivers :(
As I thought, no guts to respond to my very simple question. Gutless, caitiff, slulking yellow.
Jun 04th, 2012 - 08:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0TTT 50
Jun 04th, 2012 - 09:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Who is that remark directed at?
Who else? You've had to put up with his delusions of grandeur, fibs, lies, and ethnic rants.
Jun 04th, 2012 - 09:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thanks. I ll probably have to do the remise deal.
Jun 04th, 2012 - 09:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My brother and dad were there two weeks ago and got mugged by a couple of crackheads. I was thinking about using my US debit card instead of cash( this sounds stupid but do most businesses there take plastic nowadays like in the US?)
If “he” is yankeeboy, I think he is confusing living somewhere with visiting it. Almost everyone I know who lives in my town has been mugged at some time in their life. However a tourist on a few-day visit is unlikely to be mugged, unless careless, or just very unlucky.
Jun 04th, 2012 - 09:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ tobias/TTT,
Jun 04th, 2012 - 09:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0lf Mendoza is as good as you say it is, then you might be better off going it alone.
Ditch Argentina & declare your independence.
Self-determination, now thats an important word!
53. Don't don't don't use your debit card, use an Amex if you can, easier to replace and less likely to be abused with fraud. Last time the economy started crashing all of the restaurants and bars stopped letting you use credit cards but you'll have no problems in the big hotels or touristy restaurants.
Jun 04th, 2012 - 09:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I just want to enjoy our trip. The fear is simply because of the news. Thinks could happen anywhere but like I was telling my wife about 10 minutes ago, we stick out by language, clothing and more , just like when people one here from another country,, we just need to be careful.
Jun 04th, 2012 - 09:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I would not go into some parts of New Orleans with a cell phone but I can walk freely with it around here... I ll have to do the same when we get there..//
This website is the only place on planet Earth were the posters who have been robbed in a foreign locale (and add to that the aleatory fact that all their friends, relatives, and family have also been robbed in that same locale... such misfortunate people, woudn't you say?!), then also make it clear that keep returning to that place!
Jun 04th, 2012 - 09:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The people that have been robbed in Mendoza as tourists and been on the news, have vowed never to return! Thankfully 99% (as anywhere else), do not fall victim to these criminals.
Such a collection of masochists we have here.
AmericanL
Jun 04th, 2012 - 09:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Did your Argentinean mother not teach you Spanish!! That is a shame. Don't worry about the trip, just look at the locals and do what they do and you will be fine.
Oh bring U$ to pay for the Hotels, Restaurants & Stores and make them give you the black market rate. It may take some negotiations but that is what I do.
Jun 04th, 2012 - 09:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There is a big difference between $6 and $4.50 when you are settling a weeks worth of lodging!
Just don't use U$ to pay for taxis otherwise you may end up somewhere you didn't expect to go.
“Oh bring U$ to pay for the Hotels, Restaurants & Stores and make them give you the black market rate.”
Jun 04th, 2012 - 09:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The black market rate has been significant to be worthy of mention only since perhaps early this year.
“It may take some negotiations but that is what I do.”
Liar, liar, pantalones en fuego.
(57) AmericanLight
Jun 04th, 2012 - 09:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Louisiana, huhhhhhhhhh………
Ain’t that just a stone throw from Georgia?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymA8T-ZWTCQ&feature=endscreen&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymA8T-ZWTCQ&feature=endscreen&NR=1
I wouldn’t take my wife and kids for a walk in those woods…….I wouldn’t.
Jokes apart………
You and your family will just be fine down here….
Don’t let paranoia (or Hollywood) get the best of you....
Remember they have this hew LSD in the US market, is causing people to literally become zombies and accost a pedestrian and chew their faces off (either due to hallucinations or the need for money to buy more).
Jun 04th, 2012 - 10:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In fact the American government has had to come out and calm a hysterical population about this Zombie scare, and the police department are warning suppliers of this new cheap LSD that they can be held for murder if they sell to someone who then chews someone's face off.
Good times, good times.
Condorito: yes my mother taught me Spanish....well somehow I speak it as natural as I speak english. Think and dream in both languages. :-) still sound different than someone who speaks it all the time. When you are surrounded by only 2 Spanish speaking people and the rest speak english with you then your accent an pronunciation will have. R letters J letters. I put more effort to say for instance Caja(box) because when I say it without thinking sounds more like the Spanish j is mute... So it goes like ca a to a local speaker. When I think about it I can make it sound. Ask an American to say Juan and it will come out as if you were saying One....
Jun 04th, 2012 - 10:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thanks for the tips
Yankee: thanks for the feedback. I ll use it
think:
Atlanta is about hour and a half by plane from here. Beautiful airport. The city is not the safest. Louisiana was named the most violent state in 2011....
I guess BA will be a paradise:)
Thanks
“Such a collection of masochists we have here.” LOL @the boy scared by my post; which was absolutely true.
Jun 04th, 2012 - 10:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0AL. I travel to Argentina for work, not as a tourist, but I can pass on a few tips.
Don't use CC's unless you have to. I had to use my Amex with Aerolineas once and it was misused. Fortunately the fraud department at Amex spotted that I don't shop in the down-market places it was used so they stopped the card and refunded me quickly.
It is very cheap in BsAs so take as much cash as you need for the day and leave the rest in the safe at the hotel.
Don't be showey with expensive jewellery or gadgets but most people have cheap cellphones and MP3 players, they won't make you stand out.
Always walk with purpose.
Absolutely take care with taxis. Anyone, but anyone, can be a taxi driver. Use radio taxis and if you flag down a taxi but don't like the look of the chap, wave him on and get another. Some hotels will take down the taxi reg. no. as an extra precaution. My 'incidents' have involved taxis but I still use them.
Take dollars to pay for hotels. I have been offered 1/3rd discount for cash in dollars.
Maybe hire a private guide through the hotel. Cheap as chips for a day and they will take care of you.
One of the biggest problems in tourist areas, apart from the usual pickpockets, is bag snatching. On my very first day in BsAs, way back when, the lead story in the local newspaper was the capture of a local moped gang of bag snatchers. Two were local policemen.
Honestly, as a tourist, I would say just enjoy it. If you go to somewhere like La Boca, go with local friends or a guide; it is worth the few extra dollars.
When I was living there in an apartment there were a lot of robberies in supermarkets, banks and pharmacies. I was always a little cautious about being caught up in a random crime but I just went about my life.
The odds are still in your favour to have a happy, crime-free holiday but that risk increases considerable in some areas and after dark.
I thought, from what I have gleaned through in passing readings, that after that Great Hurricane New Orleans was able to throw off a large portion of “underclass”, and as a result a large influx of Gents (Hispanics with established roots, and Anglo-Americans of white descent), went in and today the area is far “safer” than pre hurricane.
Jun 04th, 2012 - 10:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@AL Also, don't give large notes to taxi drivers, there are a huge number of fake pesos in circulation and you will be handed them in your change. I keep lots of small notes and pay the exact fare.
Jun 04th, 2012 - 10:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0BTW In Mendoza there was a spate of robberies at tourist hotels located at wineries. They would hold up the guests at gunpoint, take all their valuables and then leave.
Mendoza city looks like it is under siege with all the police on every corner, bars and locked doors on shops, pharmacies and businesses. I asked a local person why the houses have such high security and large, wolf-like dogs patrolling. He responded, “Are you a journalist”. LOL!
Everyone, Elaine just a flat out liar.
Jun 04th, 2012 - 11:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Please disregard her. Isn't it obvious she is trying to troll me? Thus she comes back with her Mendoza spurious whoolgathering as soon as she saw my new post above.
It is a categorical lie that tourists were held a gunpoint in wineries. A total canard of a story. I dared her to show proof a few months ago and she pretended illiteracy (she ignored the post).
She is a prolific spewer of mendacities.
@68 Says the boy who thinks La Boca is gentrified. : ) You need to get out into the real world.
Jun 04th, 2012 - 11:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You never tend to muster the courage return to reply an accusation (well in this case it is a fact), so obviously I perspicuously unveiled your motives.
Jun 04th, 2012 - 11:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You saw my post above yours, and you thought you could launch a little jab. I parried the attempt however by exposing your silly antics.
Instead of ad hominems (and I did not say La Boca was gentrified, and everyone here can easily check I am the one speaking the truth by reading @31 “some gentrification”... my but what's another lie to you right?), you could have used your last chance to post to hyperlink proof of the wineries being robbed “at gunpoint” (a favline of yours I see).
Btw, didn't another Brit and our two resident Chileans Chichureo and Condorito completely dismiss your depictions of Mendoza a city “under siege”? So not only did I confute it, but multiple other posters here have as well.
If you want cities under siege, I suggest London. Police with bright yellow all over... and eveywhere you turn, a camera in sight watching you. Now that is Siege.
Now that I have set you straight, your welcome.
@70 You are a very silly little boy. People are laughing at you.
Jun 04th, 2012 - 11:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Elaine / TTT
Jun 05th, 2012 - 12:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0To the best of my knowledge only Cavas Wine Lodge was held up some years ago. Also it is quite normal in an area that derives a lot of income from tourism that you will see an increased police presence in tourist areas. It is a normal measure. For example, here when a cruise ship pulls in to Coquimbo there will be police on every corner making sure the local delinquents don’t upset our spend thrift visitors.
@71
Jun 05th, 2012 - 12:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0I think you show a prurient interest in silly little boys. I hope you do not suffer from dippoldism, for the kids sake you know.
Btw, those meek non-response responses (without addressing any of the points I proffered), are always a tale-tale sign the discussion is over and a victor can be announced.
I announce myself.
Thanks Elaine. Good tips. The la Boca area used to smell pretty bad when I went in 2008....don't feel like going back there unless it s cleaner.
Jun 05th, 2012 - 12:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0Truth:
Hurricane Katrina Washed away a lot of people and moved them over Texas. I was part of the aid team with my then company Walmart. The gulf coast was bad that year since after I came back to west Louisiana we got hit with hurricane Rita and late Ivan and Ike....
One of my employees cousin was waiting for the bus to come back west and was gunned down by a passing car. Drive by shootings are usual in some parts, just stupid kids having what they call fun....
71
Jun 05th, 2012 - 09:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0Here is private MercopressBlog not Twitter.
CFK should call for a referendum and propose early election if she is allowed to run another term, that will set the country straight, give Argentina this chance and CFK will be in office for another for years, it sad to say it but there is no better candidate for president in no Argentina then CFK.
Jun 09th, 2012 - 03:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@76 - Pirat-hunter. If Argentina really has no one better qualified than CFK to run the country, then I'm afraid you are all really fecked.
Jun 09th, 2012 - 09:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But answer me this, how can the Argentine government regulate an illegal market?
#76 I don't necessarily think she should call an early election, though I do think she'd win and it would certainly silence her critics =) Like when Chavez won the recall referendum in 2004. Certainly I think the constitution should be ammended to let Cristina the Great stand again, but if she completes this term and the next that will take her up to 2019 =) Btw I'm not advocating this because I think no-one else good could run Argentina, I just think Cristina the Great is still by far the best candidate to lead, head and shoulders over almost all other world leaders actually, and in any case the people should have the right to elect her if they want, like British PMs who have no term limits.
Jun 09th, 2012 - 11:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#77 first you license traders and set up taxes anyone trading without a license you expropiate all their capital and fine them or jail them. In less then 10 years every trader will be following laws or dead broke. Argentina needs laws with teeth.
Jun 10th, 2012 - 03:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#78 maybe CFK can't but the opposition with the support of this protesters can push parliament to demand a no confidence vote or a referendum if she is a smart president she should know that a good defense is a strong ofense, I would like it very much to have unlimited reelection in Argentina, but time will tell.
@79 - my dear Pirat-hunter.
Jun 10th, 2012 - 05:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ah is that how you do it. What next? Regulate bank robbers, or car jackers, what about regulating prostitutes and rapists?
If it was that easy to legislate something that was illegal, every country in the world would do it, wouldn't they?
When the Argentine government regulates one 'black market' three others will sprout up elsewhere.
People will still go to the black market as they can exchange however much they like without government interference in their business. That's the whole point of a black market. It's so people can do things clandestine, under the official radar.
Your government seems to just spout random crap with no idea of how they're going to implement these policies.
But then again, this present government is just treading water long enough to squeeze every dollar they can out of the people of Argentina before they twinkle-toe out of the country to somewhere they can spend all that lovely money.
I wonder, Pirat-hunter, when your government has fled, and your country is broke, and you are burning peso's to keep warm, will you still be singing CFKs praises?
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