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UK support for ‘threatened’ oil companies and Falklands’ right to develop its own hydrocarbons industry

Tuesday, June 5th 2012 - 07:55 UTC
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The United Kingdom gave its full support to the companies involved in oil and gas exploration in Falkland Islands waters, following Argentina’s announcement on Monday it was beginning legal actions against five companies committed to “illegal” and “clandestine” exploration activities in the disputed Malvinas waters. Read full article

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  • falklandlad

    Bring it on CFK... “illegal and clandestine” - I wonder what the UK shareholders think of your rant and irresponsible tirade.
    Well done HMG for robustly defending this Arg nonsense. In 10 years time when oil and gas is proven in the three geologlical basins offshore the Falklands, and the barrels are hitting the international markets, the Arg O&G industry will be clambering for a slice of the action, when all at home is dried up, and Arg realises the errors of its Repsol ways... Bring it on!

    Jun 05th, 2012 - 08:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • shb

    Just how is Argentina going to make this enforceable?

    The next thing you know they'll be prosecuting the islandsers for being “Squatter” and sending out eviction notices, one at a time.....

    I can imagine what the islanders would say to that. probably the same answer that the Argies will get from the various companies involved and HMG.

    Jun 05th, 2012 - 08:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • MurkyThink

    Amateur MercopressBlog's one of wellknown misinformation/deinformation
    articles.

    MercopressBlog owners do need to have more development .

    Jun 05th, 2012 - 09:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Papamoa

    Any action carried out by an argentine court will Not have any legal precendence in the UK or the Falklands.
    In other words just ignore it and treat it as SPAM Delete!!!!!

    Long Live the Falklands.

    Jun 05th, 2012 - 09:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • brit abroad

    So musky why dont you back up your comment?

    Jun 05th, 2012 - 10:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • PirateLove

    the more Argenweener squirms the tighter the noose, they wanted world attention and boy are they getting it , all for the wrong reasons

    Jun 05th, 2012 - 10:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    This is why I still log on to this website. The Argentinians can always be relied upon for a laugh.

    I'd like to throw my support behind the Falkland Islands and to say that if you are annoying ol' turkey neck, then you must be doing something right!!! Long may it continue.

    Nice one guys!!

    Jun 05th, 2012 - 10:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • MurkyThink

    4...5...6...................

    Here is Private MercopressBlog. !

    but I appreciate the owners despite of their amateurism..good job.!

    Jun 05th, 2012 - 10:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Papamoa

    @8
    Owners of whom or what?????????????????

    Please write more clearly!!!!

    Long Live the Falklands.

    Jun 05th, 2012 - 10:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • MurkyThink

    Ask to few commentators who write from Mercopress.

    You can not ask that “ where is this website's address.....”

    Jun 05th, 2012 - 10:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Papamoa

    @10
    You are a bit like someone who tells a Joke and only says the punchline without the build up !!!
    No I am not the Owner of Mercopress!!!

    Long Live the Falklands.

    Jun 05th, 2012 - 10:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Room101

    When everyone gets tired of the Argentine Falklands Agenda, and making use of it to put their own territorial claims ( e.g. Chile/Bolivia sea access) what will CFK do next. “Something” really crazy?

    Jun 05th, 2012 - 11:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    IF it is an “integral” part of the Islanders self-determination that they can reap all the benefit of offshore oil in what would otherwise be Argentine waters, and either all become obscenely rich or funnel it back to the colonial master, THEN I must say I reject “self-determination” outright. 3,000 people cannot “self-determine” to be the owners of half the riches of a developing country! The idea that this is such a non-contentious point that it is not even negotiable adds further absurdity. Who decided where the Falklands' coatal waters are anyway? Certainly didn't involve the Argentines or anyone else in the continent that those waters border, none of whom recognise the Falklands. So the idea that the oil is in their waters is hardly uncontentious. Of course if they got to keep their rocks, their way of lif, and even British sovereignty over their rocks, then their own definition of self determination would be fulfilled - even if Argentina got the waters. Surely a situation where everyone, Islanders and Argentines alike, were happy, and there was no further dispute, wouldn't be too bad. Except the British government would never allow it if it inconvenienced the big oil companies.

    Finally I'd just like to say my Queen looks soooo beautiful in the picture, doesn't she?

    Jun 05th, 2012 - 11:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tabutos

    1 person has the right to self determine there own future. so 3000 people definitely have the right to self determination

    you reject article 1 of the UN charter all you want lol

    13@ ”Who decided where the Falklands' coatal(sic) waters are anyway?”

    that would be international law, Argentina or rest of the world not required over 12 mile is considered international waters. nations can claim up to 300 miles of sea/ocean around there nation/territory

    Argentina had there chance with the oil but back out

    Jun 05th, 2012 - 11:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Doveoverdover

    @13 Who decided? Definitions of ownership and responsibility for maritime surface and subsurface space have been agreed by nations in the several UN Conventions on the Law of the Sea. These rights and responsibilities can be negotiated and, in the case of disputes, can be taken to arbitration. As for your proposal, I wonder which big companies you have in mind because none seem to be involved at present but I can name a few who be in like a flash if there were no risk to their pre-existing investments in Latin America.

    Jun 05th, 2012 - 11:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • expbrit

    @ 13

    “3,000 people cannot “self-determine” to be the owners of half the riches of a developing country”.

    Tell that to General Kirchner; she manages to achieve exactly that outcome all on her own.

    Jun 05th, 2012 - 11:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Malvinero1

    ,000 people cannot “self-determine” to be the owners of half the riches of a developing country”.

    It is what the UN thinks....Res 2065...
    Anyway,MAlvinas oil is an SCAm.....
    No serious company will put a penny in there....
    The crooks of cameron and hague are benfitting from the scam..
    Either way,nothing they can do WITHOUT the Infrestructure support from Argentina.....
    Poor deluded ex empires..

    Jun 05th, 2012 - 11:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • THOR94

    @ arrr, poor deluded wannabe empires :')

    Jun 05th, 2012 - 12:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Joe Bloggs

    17 Malvi

    Why not? Why can't 3,000 have a place of their own. What international law says they can't?

    Half of the riches? Really? Is that figure correct? Boy, no wonder you deadbeat Malvinistas are pissed with us. LOL!

    Hang on, now you say the oil is a scam? Which is it Malvi? Is the oil a scam or do we have half the riches of Argentina?

    You're more f#cked up this morning than normal. Bad night?

    Jun 05th, 2012 - 12:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Spainexpat

    @13 BK

    So your proposing that all the issues could be resolved and Argentina would leave the FI's in peace if - the FI's cede there coastal waters to Argentina including all oil (and presumably fishing aswell?) ........

    Somehow I don't the Islanders would be too happy with that situation!

    Jun 05th, 2012 - 12:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • expbrit

    @ 17 “nothing they can do WITHOUT the Infrestructure support from Argentina.....”

    You're delusional sunshine :-) One of the first things I learnt when I started in the oil industry was; when shit heads in your direction, you throw money at it, and you keep throwing money at it until it goes away. Remember, General Kirchner won't be around forever :-)

    No, I don't believe infrastructure will be a problem.

    Jun 05th, 2012 - 12:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Malvinero1

    @ 17 “nothing they can do WITHOUT the Infrestructure support from Argentina.....”

    You're delusional sunshine :-) One of the first things I learnt when I started in the oil industry was; when shit heads in your direction, you throw money at it, and you keep throwing money at it until it goes away.
    Really? Did you speak with oil people WORKING in the AREA?
    Exxon,BP,etc,will not put a penny in there.They have drilled before in the '70,nothing important was found there..

    way. Remember, General Kirchner won't be around forever :-)

    So you to!
    BTW,somebody much worse than her can came,Tell me did you likr general thatcher,more than cristina? CFK is FAR better than criminal thatcher,poor deluded ex empire

    Jun 05th, 2012 - 01:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Xect

    Because of course in Malv's bizarre little world oil tecnology hasn't improved in over 40 years.....

    As for oil infrastructure again Malv and his cretinous friends believe they know far more than the oil companies out there.....

    Jun 05th, 2012 - 01:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • expbrit

    @ 22

    I don't need to speak to anyone; throwing money at problems is SOP all over the world, except in Argentina where problems are thrown out of aeroplanes.

    BP, Exxon et al may have bigger fish of their own to fry or they may have better things to do with their time than play games with General Kirchner but the presence of the Leiv Eiriksson says a lot. No one is going to drag one of the biggest ultra-deepwater drilling rigs on the planet down to the South Atlantic on a hunch. I don't know for sure what the day rate for that particular rig would be but US$400,000 + or - wouldn't be too far off the mark.

    God Save The Queen - you poor deluded silly person.

    Jun 05th, 2012 - 02:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    You have to laugh at the brass neck of it though.

    I bet all the companies named are having a sweep on how far this goes.

    There is of course the chance that any suit could backfire with costs against Argentina: but would they pay up? ha ha ha. Not a chance!

    I am confused about one thing however? How can it be clandestine, with a load or rigs and drills and service boats out there? Perhaps The Mad Bitch of Argentina is using Google Earth to see what's there instead of 'Live ships map' or more likely they have run out of electricity to run things.

    Jun 05th, 2012 - 02:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • expbrit

    If you are only confused about one thing you are doing much better than me ;-{

    I'm working on the theory that a “Stupid Gene” was developed some years ago - probably by a guy called Joe - and it escaped and infected the population. I could be wrong; I admit that my body-snatcher theory didn't quite pan out; but then I could also be right... :)

    Jun 05th, 2012 - 03:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @13 Let's answer your, for once, close-to-intelligent question. “Who decided where the Falklands' coatal waters are anyway?” In the first place, the United Nations. It's a little bit of paper with the title “United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea”. Then there's the “exclusive economic zone” declared around the Islands by Britain as the Administering Authority. As Britain is entitled to do under the Third United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea in 1982. Fortunately, neither you nor “argentina” (wherever that is) had to be consulted. Also fortunate is the FACT that neither you nor the implanted population of wogga wogga land gets to “reject” international law. What a pity that wogga wogga land apparently signed and ratified the UNCLOS. Perhaps they were/are brainless dolts?
    @17 What “infrastructure” (please learn to spell) does wogga wogga land have that anyone would want?
    @22 Did you know that you can dig a hole in the ground in one place and find nothing? And then dig another hole in the ground a mile ot two away and find untold riches? Miners do this a lot. And, yes, we did like Prime Minister Thatcher a lot more than we “like” CFK. But, hell, the next one along will be YOUR problem. Remember that whoever it is will come for you before they come for us! Now look on the bright side. When the oil starts flowing, we may let the odd oil slick drift in the direction of wogga wogga land. If you get yourself down to your coast with your bucket, you may get some. Look at it, smell it, wiggle your fingers in it. But remember that it's not yours, so you'll have to give it back!

    Jun 05th, 2012 - 03:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Beef

    Malvi baby - please educate us as to what infrastructure we require from Argentina.

    Come on, show us how clever you are. This should be fun.

    Jun 05th, 2012 - 04:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    28 Beef

    Yeah!! Come on Malvi-baby!! You might surprise us all, I doubt it, but you might!!

    Jun 05th, 2012 - 04:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chatcat

    @17 Malvinero1 sorry to disillusion you but I don't see why any Argentine infrastructure would be necessary for the Falkland Islanders to enjoy the benefits of claiming their oil. They are likely to need to invest in their own infrastructure of course. There is a precedent for all of this with the Sullum Voe oil facilities in the Shetland Islands.

    What I am wondering about is to what extent the KFC mafia are getting away with “harassing Falklands shipping”. Just what are the circumstances of this, where is it occurring and how is it being allowed to take place?

    Jun 05th, 2012 - 04:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    CKF never ceases to fail to amaze me me in pure sutidpity. Here is a country that pushed all the lawsuits against them for defaulting on all the money they borrowed. Now they see the wrongs of their ways and will use the legal system? Be real....at least serious. And who's legal system, the joke of jurisprudence in Argentina? CKF......get over it. If they ever was a claim to the Falklands.........it ended when your incompetent military tried to start a war. You get get land fo losing a war.

    Jun 05th, 2012 - 05:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Beef

    Don't worry about Argentina. They would try to cause trouble in an empty room.

    They are like flatulence. They cause a bad smell, are rather amusing and eventually disappear. Speaking of which, “pull my finger” :-)

    Jun 05th, 2012 - 05:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    32 Beef

    I'll pass on that one if it's ok with you :-)

    “these latest attempts to damage the economic live hood of the Falkland Islands people regrettably reflect a pattern of behaviour by the Argentine government”.

    For the above please read ”Way of life“.

    The thing that always, always amazes me is that they can't see what they are doing is wrong. Anyone else would have said to themselves :-

    ”No one is taking me seriously, I should show everyone I can behave and abide by the rules then they might be willing to at least talk to me” but they carry on and on with the same ol' same ol'...... When will this car crash end?

    Jun 05th, 2012 - 05:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • expbrit

    I read this article yesterday and the last sentence caught my attention: “There is also speculation the government may default on dollar debt by converting the contracts into pesos. ” Could explain a lot.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/oilandgas/9311204/Argentina-to-immediately-launch-criminal-proceedings-against-UK-oil-firms-operating-off-Falklands-Islands.html

    Jun 05th, 2012 - 05:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monkeymagic

    It's wonderful when you read posts like @13 and @17. It puts the other posts that these cretins make in the correct light.

    The International Law of the Sea give the Falklands exactly the same right that every other country with a coastline has. It is undisputed. It gives the Faroe Islands it's oil and gas, Brunei it's oil and gas. correctly draws what belongs to Norway and the UK. The fact that 3000 people live there makes no difference.

    It just gives the chance to be richer than Creatos.

    As for @17. Even if the FIs were Argentinian, the oil in the Falklands would be developed in EXACTLY the same way, by offshore FPSO. It requires almost zero onshore infrastructure, which would always be based in Stanley. So what he writes is incompetent bollocks. Gas LNG FPSO versus pipeline to Argentina might be a close run economical thing...but oil is FPSO EVERY TIME.

    The fact @17 thinks it's a scam, despite independent CPRs for both DESIRE and RKH confirming oil and gas discoveries, just shows how brainwashed and hopeless he is!

    It's going to be fun watching this develop. first oil in 2016.

    Jun 05th, 2012 - 05:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Beef

    With the gas discoveries mounting up then gas by a LNG plant on one of the smaller islands becomes more economical as the days go by. Again, no need for any Argie infrastructure (I use the term very loosely).

    This will be confirmed if RKH (alone or with a partner) stick a few holes in Johnson. The detail of the farm-in will be interesting. Will it be for sea-lion alone or for a section/all the acreage? Will exploration costs be reimbursed (therefore giving RKH the money do drill more holes in their 100% owned acreage)?

    Jun 05th, 2012 - 06:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Gordo1

    @17 Malvinero1 “Either way,nothing they can do WITHOUT the Infrestructure support from Argentina.....”

    Private enterprise can do most things if the financial backing is there.

    In 1982 the UK managed quite well without “infrastructure” support from Argentina - in fact, did very well in spite of Argentina's interference into British territory.

    Jun 05th, 2012 - 06:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brit Bob

    Completely right. The Falkland Islands and the waters around the islands have absolutely nothing to do with Argentina. They can huff and puff all they like...

    Jun 05th, 2012 - 06:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Beef

    Gordo - Malvi baby is just shooting from the hip as he knows very little. Like Marcos he is another product of the Argentine education system.

    He has yet to explain how we need Argentine infrastructure.

    Jun 05th, 2012 - 06:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    Interesting how the Argentines threaten legal action when they pay no attention to legal action threatened against them. The world knows this. I hope if the Argentines sue, the oil companies will counter-sue and get damages. Perhaps this will neccesitate a visit to the ICJ which will look at all the eveudence to prove the Argentines claims are unsupoported by history and completely bogus. Then they can shut up forever and continue in true form fighting amongst their SA neighbours.

    Jun 05th, 2012 - 07:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    Our government needs to be a bit more aggressive with its replies ,

    But alas that’s whet happens when one is to polite to tell them to piss off,
    ..............................................................
    But despite the CFK threats,
    The fact remains, and her deluded bloggers, can explain to us all later, [they are all so clever]

    If the kangaroo court ever gets going,
    1, how will it be enforced
    2, will CFK send the police to the Falklands, to arrest,
    3, will she send police to Britain, to arrest,
    4, will she send police to the oil rigs, to arrest ,
    5, will she send police aboard the Royal Navy to arrest,

    6, we bow to our most intelligent clever argie bloggers, to tell us
    HOW you intend to enforce this,
    Or is this just more talky talky .
    7, over to you,
    8, silence.

    Jun 05th, 2012 - 07:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monkeymagic

    @22

    I am very interested to hear that BP and Exxon drilled in FI waters in the 70s. There is absolutely no record of such an event ever taking place in any archive I can find.

    I am aware of the DSDP wells drilled in the 1970s in the Maurice Ewing bank (not Exxon or BP and not in the FI waters), I am also aware of the unsuccessful drilling in the Malvinas Basin (Argentine waters) by Exxon. But neither Exxon nor BP have drilled in the Falklands either in the 1970s or otherwise.

    You may be referring (wrongly) to the 1998 campaign which involved Shell/Hess/Lundin, which wasn't successful. But then you would be wrongly in both historical facts and protagonists (AS FRIKKING USUAL).

    But of course its is irrelevant now, as both Rockhopper and Desire have found oil in the North Basin...and until recently the south basin was completely unexplored.

    Jun 05th, 2012 - 07:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Malvinero1

    problem. Remember that whoever it is will come for you before they come for us! Now look on the bright side. When the oil starts flowing, we may let the odd oil slick drift in the direction of wogga wogga land. If you get yourself down to your coast with your bucket, you may get some. Look at it, smell it, wiggle your fingers in it. But remember that it's not yours, so you'll have to give it back!
    AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHA
    conquered: IDIOT!

    Jun 05th, 2012 - 10:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Beef

    Still waiting Malvi. What Argentine infrastructure do we need?

    Jun 05th, 2012 - 11:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • St.John

    @ 13 British_Kirchnerist

    “3,000 people cannot “self-determine””

    United Nations member states Nauru and Tuvalu have 10 000 inhabitants each, Palau has 21 000.

    Jun 06th, 2012 - 12:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    A country can be small, the ones you cite are bigger than the Falklands but others are smaller still. The issue, if you didn't quote me completely out of context, is the oil

    Jun 06th, 2012 - 01:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • St.John

    @ 46 British_Kirchnerist

    What has oil to do with self determination?

    In accordance with international treaties, off shore natural resources belongs to the country, which is closest to the resources, decided by the socalled equidistance line. These treaties have been used world wide to solve disputes.

    As regards the Falkland Islands, the dispute was settled in 1850, as can be seen in e.g. Vice-President Marcos Paz's opening spech to the Argentine Congress on 1 May 1866:
    “The British Government has accepted the President of the Republic of Chile as arbitrator in the reclamation pending with the Argentine Republic, for damages suffered by English subjects in 1845. This question, which is the only one between us and the British nation, has not yet been settled.”

    Note: This question (about damages) is THE ONLY ONE between us and the British nation ...

    Jun 06th, 2012 - 01:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Malvinero1

    Oil resources in the Falkland Islands, a British territory claimed by Argentina, are insufficient to be profitable, an ExxonMobil Corp (XOM.N) executive said, leaked U.S. documents show.

    The cable from the U.S. Embassy in London was dated February 2010 and was about a new oil drilling effort then starting in the Falklands and a resulting rise in tension between Britain and Argentina.

    “ExxonMobil International Chairman Brad Corson told us he does not believe there is enough oil on the Falkland Islands Continental Shelf to be profitable, citing Shell's earlier oil exploration attempts which they abandoned,” the cable read.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2010/12/03/wikileaks-falklands-oil-idUSLDE6B20WC20101203

    Still waiting Malvi. What Argentine infrastructure do we need?
    The one for your brain,beef....
    Just talk to any offshore oil specialist....The infrastructure need,if there is oil is inmense...If Argentina,does not have a base,to supply the materials and services..even with the oil at $500 IT IS NOT PROFITABLE...
    What a crooks,these brits......
    MAlvinas oil is a scam,engineered by the corrupt brits conservatives....cameron,hague,et al..

    Jun 06th, 2012 - 03:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @48 It's hardly corrupt if they're not making any money out of it, because as you say, it's unprofitable.

    Can you make some sense please. [it's not asking too much]

    Jun 06th, 2012 - 06:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monkeymagic

    @48
    so you agree that when you said “BP and Exxon drilled in the 70s” you were wrong with both the companies involved and the decade. In other words, you made up some history to suit your argument.

    Likewise, what you claim happened in the 1820-1830s in made up history, that didn't happen.

    Argentina has NEVER had a civilian population on the Falklands. Twice they have had a military population in 1832 and 1982 both for a couple of months before British military removed them.

    The FIs have had FIVE civilian populations in their history:

    1) French
    2) British
    3) Spanish
    4) Vernet (independent)
    5) British

    The Spanish and French voluntarily removed their claim and the current population is a decedent from 4 & 5. No Argies.

    Jun 06th, 2012 - 07:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Beef

    Ah Malvi the old (i use that word on purpose) that pre-dates the most recent drilling from 2010 onwards.

    I think you need to educate yourself on FPSO technology. The only onshore we need is storage of materials, search and rescue, disaster recovery and enough beds and booze for the rig hands. Full economic costing of leased FPSO with multiple well tie-in has already been completed and by adding that gas injection from thr gas cap increases recovery factor to ovet 40% £££££££££££££ :-)

    Nice try Malvi but you are another worthless dimwit from the same school as Marcos.

    Jun 06th, 2012 - 07:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Musky

    The legal threat from Argentina would definitely keep me awake at night; I wouldn't be able to sleep through laughing so much!

    Jun 06th, 2012 - 07:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Malvinero1

    Argentina has NEVER had a civilian population on the Falklands. Twice they have had a military population in 1832 and 1982 both for a couple of months before British military removed them.

    AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
    LIAR!!
    There were about 150 people....over 2000 horses,sheeps,like over 10000
    Poor brit LIARS.So decadent..
    How they make money with the scam oil?
    Simple,the same they did with BRE-X minerals.....playing the stock market,getting some fools to put money.....No serious OIL co is going to put a penny,on a disputed territory.......
    The brits pirates are finish!

    Jun 06th, 2012 - 11:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monkeymagic

    @53

    Interesting..so there were 150 people on the FIs when HMS Clio arrived in 1833.

    This cannot include the Louis Vernet community which was neither Argentinian or british as both sides concede, and was not evicted and was actively encouraged to stay.

    It does not include either the (murdered/mutinied) Commander Mestivier penal colony set up in November 1832, which both sides agree was evicted, and left on the ARA Sarandi.

    You maintain that there was a third community of 150 people living as as a settlement on the island. This was an Argentine community seperate from the Vernet community and was prosperous and forced to leave.

    When did these people arrive?
    Where were they living?
    Did they all leave on the ARA Sarandi with Don Pinedo or were they picked up at a later date?

    You must have the answers to all these questions...please advise

    When did the Argentine civilian population arrive? (i.e. not Vernet or Mestivier )
    How many were there?
    Where did they live?
    How did they leave?

    As far as the oil scam is concerned, you are already wrong BHP have already invested “more than a penny” even though they have now left the campaign.

    “the Brit pirates are finished”.

    Indeed, so you keep saying. However, the falklands are STILL a british overseas territory, the islanders STILL wish to remain so, STILL nobody has actuall DONE anything to make that change, the GDP of the UK is STILL much higher than Argentina, the standard of living in the UK is STILL much higher than Argentina...and you are STILL posting that the UK is finished.

    here is my bet with you:

    The islands will see first oil in 2016
    the islanders will be the richest people per capita in the world
    the islands will still be a british overseas territory
    Argentina will still be whinging
    still nobody will have done anything...

    Jun 06th, 2012 - 12:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    49, welcome back.

    Malvino, you are losing the fight against your self,

    We think the good argie waiting to climb out, is winning,
    And the evil force is losing .lol.

    Jun 06th, 2012 - 07:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Musky

    @53 Malver01
    Your government is a parody of a government, whipping you to a frenzy so that you won't notice their true handling of your economy, welfare and your very own thought processes. At least in the UK we know our government ministers are a bunch of twonks , but invariable working for a better Britain, but you guys think the sun shines out of CFK's bottom. What-a-mistake-a-to-make-a!

    Jun 07th, 2012 - 11:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    #56 Musky it's like Bread and Circus......only there they call it pizza and champagne to get their minds of the ineptitude of the socialist that are destroying and robbing Argentina blind. I would even bet that CFK already has plans made to flee to Venezula when her day of reckoning comes.

    Jun 07th, 2012 - 01:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jay

    A goverment e-petion has been setup at www.StopFundingArgentina.org

    Would recommend everyone to sign it.

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  • UKOwnsArgentina

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