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CFK Malvinas presentation before C24 divides Argentine opposition
President Cristina Fernandez has yet to fulfil her wish to have the whole Argentine opposition represented next to her when she addresses the UN Decolonization Committee claiming sovereignty over the disputed Falklands/Malvinas Islands next week. Read full article
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Jun 07th, 2012 - 05:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0Will she get approval to buy dollars for her planned shopping trip?
Jun 07th, 2012 - 06:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0The US would like to get as far away from this issue as it can get. Nothing to gain lots to lose.
Jun 07th, 2012 - 06:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0She's going with some war veterans? Isn't that like Hitler going to the UN with two SS troopers to claim back Danzig? This woman's absolutely whacked.
Jun 07th, 2012 - 07:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0@2 I was wondering the same thing. But she's only agreed to transfer 3% of the massive wealth that she's accumulated while in office into Pesos, so I'm sure she can just open up one of her many Swiss numbered accounts and get enough dollarage to pay for supper with the CEOs.
Jun 07th, 2012 - 08:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0Likelihood of CEOs getting free dinner... high... Likelihood of CEOs investing in Argentina... low.
@4 War vets go everywhere with her. She's always got the trio of war vets, bolivians and la campora to clap her nonsense. I'm still surprised the UN puts up with it, but they put up with bombing civilians in Syria and beheading non-muslims in Saudi, so what can you say.
@4- No even worse- It's like Angela Merkel going to Danzig with the SS troopers......now stop laughing!
Jun 07th, 2012 - 08:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0@5 Yep, and despite all that's going on in Syria, the UN thinks that a decolonisation committee supposedly set up to free oppressed masses should be partly run by a Syrian?
Jun 07th, 2012 - 08:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0I take back what I said about Danzig, by the way, because of course Danzig actually did belong to the Germans at one point...
I'd add as well, that if Russia were to say anything regarding Argentina's claims of moving a population into an area that supposedly isn't yours and then claiming it because of the population, that we should loudly shout cough *southossetiawar* cough
@6,7
Jun 07th, 2012 - 08:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0Does she know that she lost that war? and in the context of that war, Argentina specifically ignored the UN SCR 502 telling the Argentinians to get out of the Falklands. It makes absolutely no sense to then turn up with a bunch of them.
In this context, the UK avoid saying anything. If you talk to psychos in the street they normally stab you. Better to just ignore them and walk past.
I'm still not sure why she's going there. If it's a decolonization committee, what's that to do with Argentina?
Jun 07th, 2012 - 11:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0@9 Well, it's got nothing to do with Argentina. That's the curious part of the whole episode. What's even more curious is they're allowed to bandstand in front of the committee their clear wish to colonise the falklands.
Jun 07th, 2012 - 11:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0Shows you that the UN on the whole is just a pretty useless talking shop.
War veterans going too (very Robert Mugabe). I heard she's going to dig up Nestor's body and take that with her too!
Jun 07th, 2012 - 11:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0@11 Dead war veterans and dead Nestor? Is he going to dead-unilaterally walk out of UN-proposed negotiations with the UK again? [just in case we forgot that Argentina walked out of the negotiations they claim we never had]
Jun 07th, 2012 - 11:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0There's a reason why we don't live in Argentina. [Because it's sh!t]
@11 A nice trick would have been for the FIG to take along descendants of those who stayed in 1833 so they could say “Hi CFK, what am I, chopped liver?”
Jun 07th, 2012 - 11:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0@13 At which point do Gibraltar.gov and the FIG just stop engaging with the UN C24 is the question I'd ask. With Argentina turning up with people who invaded their lands and now saying they want of colonise them, they're quite within their rights to just say 'This is nonsense. You don't even have any measures for completion of the process. Goodbye' and everyone disengage en-mass except for the few territories that actually want to stay involved.
Jun 07th, 2012 - 11:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0Truthful objective history means nothing to this company of savages.
@ 2 She won't need many. The shopping trip will be charged to the embassy and paid from their slush-fund.
Jun 07th, 2012 - 01:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 9 and 10 I'm still dying to know the answer to those questions myself.
@ 11 Gross !!
@ 13 If the FIG issued an open invitation for representatives of groups who support their cause to attend the C24 I reckon there wouldn't be any room left for the K-Krew.
@ 14 We have been trying to say Goodbye to Argentina since the dawn of time. It's like trying to communicate with a dyslexic goldfish.
Getting most or all political parties onside is useful strategy (like important that the Labour Party defence and foreign affairs shadow ministers are on side with British government), but as noted in news article, in Argentina's case, the byzantine political considerations come to the fore. Will be interesting to see who actually shows up and what they say. Possible to get real-time or near real time access to that day?
Jun 07th, 2012 - 01:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In any case, just posted comment to related Mercopress story that the internet agenda of the UN De-Col committee still says that 14 June meeting was part of 11-15 June informational meetings but that the Falklands would be addressed specifically on 21 June. Seems that the agenda - currently posted on the UN De-Col website is inaccurate? Or will there by more on the Falklands on 21 June? Since the UN De-Col chair is Ecuadorian, he is probably bending over backwards to make sure that CFK and her band get every advantage.
Reference:
UN De-col meeting agenda:
www.un.org/ga/search/view_doc.asp?symbol=A/AC.109/2012/L.2
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Jun 07th, 2012 - 02:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0FIG to ignore this C24 meeting - it has no power or influence to change squat.
or
FIG to go to this meeting and just point and laugh and continuously at CFK and her gang.
Is that a ticking I can hear on Tango 01.
Jun 07th, 2012 - 02:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Now wouldn't that be an opportunity - and no opposition going in case they get photographed with The Mad Bitch herself.
From the Nasdaq 7.6.12
Jun 07th, 2012 - 02:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0'CFK has resorted to blocking imports and rationing the foreign currency Argentines can purchase to make sure enough dollars are in hand at the Central Bank to pay government creditors. Those measures have sent a chill through the economy as factories face shortages of imported parts and the heavy dollarized real estate market for the want of greenbacks. Auto production also fell 24% .'
Nero fiddled while Rome burned
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/9316959/Falklands-Minister-criticises-domineering-Argentina.html
Jun 07th, 2012 - 03:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0wonder if HMS Dauntless has a note of that aircrafts callsign......................just a thought
Jun 07th, 2012 - 04:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@21 I wouldn't worry about that. Given the amount of money that went missing from the coffers of Maximo Airlines, I'd be surprised if Tango-1 had any spare parts and very surprised if it she actually flew to NY in it. I'd imagine she'd go in a private charter.
Jun 07th, 2012 - 04:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 022 GreekYoghurt (#)
Jun 07th, 2012 - 04:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Jun 07th, 2012 - 04:21 pm
I don't think you're right on that one, Greek, after all its Máximo's Mum who is flying. I think he'll put up the price of a full service from his own pocket, after all he'll get back by screwing us Argentines over something else.
@23 Maybe Maximo will send his wife shopping with his mum so he can spend some alone time with killicof.
Jun 07th, 2012 - 04:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I like the idea of CFK going to the C24. The question is: As persuasive arguments, is she going to show them her tits, her bum or offer everyone a free blowjob?
Jun 07th, 2012 - 05:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Of course, what it actually displays is total desperation. Tinpotman has proved himself to be a wanker with aspirations towards being a prat (failed). Arguello has proved to be a smelly fart with halitosis. Now CFK is trotting off for a shopping trip and, incidentally, taking the opportunity to prove that Tinpotman and Arguello aren't aberrations. They are true representations of argieland. Will she cite all the lies that Pascoe and Pepper have already identified? Will the Falklands representatives take copies of the Pascoe and Pepper 2012 paper with them for distribution?
http://falklandshistory.org/sites/default/files/false-falklands-history.pdf
Could anybody get copies of the paper to the Falklands representatives in time?
What a thread this is turning into. First a nice “fair and balanced” Fox News style flourish at the end of the article: “The Argentine president...will then remain in her beloved city for shopping until Sunday ...” Is this a news piece or a bitchy gossip column?
Jun 07th, 2012 - 05:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#2 Is there even a “planned shopping trip” or is that as much conjecture as the article saying New York is her “beloved city” (as if thats a bad thing; the way people post round here its sometimes made out like she's the next bin Laden, yet its also made to look bad that she, allegedly, loves New York!) Anyway she is one of the best dressed women in the world and probably wouldn't be if she delegated all her shopping to some aid; better with the personal touch =)
#6 My Queen is NOTHING like Angela Merkel =) (or Hitler, of course)
#16 Back to the actual point of the article at least, but I must say your perspective is a bit warped. So its OK for Labour in Britain to support an unpopular unwinnable bloody war (probably because they started it) but not for Cristina to expect support for a point of complete national consensus from opposition parties which have always supported it. More amazing was hen they had to support her natioinalisation of Repsol, despite it running contrary to their capitalist dogma, because Cristina the Great had won such overwhelming public support for it any other stance would have been politically suicidal.
#18 & #21 Evil bastards
#24 & 25 Now thats something I've not seen for a while, Greek being Greek followed by Conqueror being Conqueror, spouting offensive bilge in their own unique ways. Welcome back GY, I can see you've not changed!
@26 Ah Scottish_Communist, don't get your knickers in a twist just because your favourite populist sh!t-bag of a government cannot get enough grey-matter into a room to manage a company properly, let alone create a consensus about their national dream to colonise other people.
Jun 07th, 2012 - 06:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just chill out about it.
British Kirchnerist is for whatever reason utterly irrational in his Kirchnerism and thus is pointless debating with.
Jun 07th, 2012 - 06:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@28 I think (s)he's just bored. I'd be bored if I was in Scotland too.
Jun 07th, 2012 - 06:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I happen to think that mentioning her shopping trip is a very valid point since she will have access to dollars and designer clothing denied to other Argentines because of her looney-bonkers policies on buying dollars and import restrictions. 'Some are more equal than others'.
Jun 07th, 2012 - 06:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@30 Elaine, you forget that “All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others”.
Jun 07th, 2012 - 06:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It did make me smile that no one wants to be photographed with her; tainted much.
Jun 07th, 2012 - 06:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@32 Even an imbecile would know that her administration has turned poisonous. Now they're probably waiting to find the next peronist rising prince(ss) to ruin the country some more.
Jun 07th, 2012 - 07:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0ARGENTINA SAYS FALKLANDS OIL IN ITS SOVEREIGNTY
Jun 07th, 2012 - 07:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.chronicle.gi/headlines_details.php?id=25080
60 years of peace,
Oh well it was nice while it lasted.
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@26 If you must worship sh*te! Tongue out, boy. Enjoy!
Jun 07th, 2012 - 07:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As I have posted on another thread, why is CFK attending this meeting at all?
Jun 07th, 2012 - 08:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This is a decolonisation meeting so therefore the two parties involved who should be talking are the Falkland Islands and the UK. The FI government and the UK have talked and are happy with the status quo, so that's it, nothing more to discuss, no-one is being harassed or bullied (that's being done by the Argentine government).
Also, the FI are self-governing so shouldn't even be on the committees list.
None of this has anything to do with CFK and even if the Falklands agreed or were pressurised into declaring independence (which of course the UK would allow) all the aggressive and bullying policies put forward by CFK have damaged relations so badly, I can't see any fully independent FI government giving her the time of day.
By hey, I'm just putting forward my opinion. The real choice is, of course, with Falklands people themselves, as it should be.
@36
Jun 07th, 2012 - 08:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Falkland Islanders have made their position very clear, they are happy at the moment being British Overseas Territory.
@36 What you're doing there is assuming that the UN committees aren't disfunctional, remitless, corrupt and bathing in anarchy. There was a recent example of the UN Committee on Religious Understanding being sponsored by Saudi Arabia, a country that kills non-muslims for basically being non-muslims.
Jun 07th, 2012 - 08:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0yes
Jun 07th, 2012 - 08:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0british they are
british they wish to remain,
and the british will protect them .
@36 Ahab
Jun 07th, 2012 - 08:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The C24's job.
'The Special Committee on Decolonization (also known as the U.N. Special Committee of the 24 on Decolonization, the Committee of 24, or simply, the Decolonization Committee) was created in 1961 by the General Assembly of the United Nations with the purpose of monitoring implementation of the Declaration on the Granting of Independence to Colonial Countries and Peoples and to make recommendations on its application.'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Committee_on_Decolonization
If they weren't corrupt she wouldn't be going.
Also your second point around an independent FI. It would certainly shut Argentina up once and for all, but the FI are happy maintaining their links with the UK, for the time being.
Ahab - Where are you from?
@40 Steve
Jun 07th, 2012 - 08:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The C24 have not achieved anything in the last 20 years !!!
@37 Totally agree
Jun 07th, 2012 - 09:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@38 You have a point there. Call me naive for thinking the UN and all it's sub-branches were for the good of humankind, rather than a place where bloated self important lazy politicians could find something to do rather than actually help people (like there are supposed to)
@40 I just mention the independence thing as a hypothetical as it would negate a lot of the crap coming out of the CFK administration. And I completely agree on the corruption thing, I just don't like people reading from a made up script, simply ignoring facts because of a chip/shoulder situation.
I'm from England, although I have family links to Scotland, Ireland and have lived in Wales for a good portion of my adult life (a lot of my closest friends are Welsh), so I get tired of a lot of stuff said about people just because they are separated by a line drawn up hundreds of years ago.
People are people. If they own the land (which the Falkland islanders do) and they are making the best of it (which the Falkland islanders are) they should either be engaged with as friends or if you don't like them, leave them alone. Nothing can be gained from Argentina's current course of action.
@41 I agree, there is only one colony left in the world and ironically it isn't on the C24's list and it is in South America.
Jun 07th, 2012 - 09:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Guiana
43 Steve-32-uk: Interesting how French Guiana “flys under the radar” of the tercermundista crew who hate the Falkland Islands. Seems that the French government has persuaded the anti-colonialistas that FG is not a colony because it is really an integral part of France like Paris, but that happens to be geographically located (Région d'outre-mer) 7,000 kms from Paris.
Jun 07th, 2012 - 09:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Back in late 19thC, French had to buy off Brazil by giving them a huge chunk of FG, but one would think that they would have had to have given it all away to make Brazil happy that no colony existed on FG territory?
Of course, the French aren't counting on friendly neighbours so they do have quite a significant number of military hanging out in FG: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Guiana#Military.2C_police_and_security_forces
Complete integration with Britain may be an option that has been discussed in Falkland Islands Legislature or FIG?
Complete integration with Britain may be an option that has been discussed in Falkland Islands Legislature or FIG?
Jun 07th, 2012 - 10:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0in this present climate, and troubled times, it may well be the best bet .
Complete integration with Britain is an interesting idea but I don't think we need it. Argentina has little impact on us - after all, they have spent the last 30 years and more reminding us that we are best off keeping our distance.
Jun 08th, 2012 - 02:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0I think people looked into Complete integration with UK, but let's face it... the falklands is the size of Wales. It's better we just protect them until they're sizeable enough to go it on their own, and then we just have yet another friendly nation to join the commonwealth.
Jun 08th, 2012 - 08:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0The issue here is the morally repugnant desires of the Argentines, not our mature relationship with our BOTs.
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sadly unless camaron and the evil DR clegg, stops it, then it will continue , will it not .
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