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Venezuelan opposition plays the nationalist card in territory dispute with Guyana

Thursday, June 7th 2012 - 06:10 UTC
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Venezuela's opposition accused the government on Wednesday of turning a blind eye to neighbouring Guyana's oil exploration in a border region claimed by Venezuela, potentially inflaming a territorial dispute that dates back more than a century. Read full article


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  • rnbgr

    Great another border dispute that dates back to the 19th century, instead of focusing how they would improve life for Venezuelans they focus on this.

    Jun 07th, 2012 - 06:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    South Americans generally speak spanish, and like most spanish speakers they seem to spend all their time worrying about border disputes rather than rooting out corruption, making their economies work and delivering societies that people want to actually live in.

    It's got to do with the core cultural values of spanophone countries whereby they're just utterly incapable of delivering any kind of social justice, and they're all just pleonexiacs trying to be communists.

    It's just retarded.

    Jun 07th, 2012 - 08:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    So thats:-
    Argentina claiming the Falklands & other British Antarctic Territories,
    Guatemala claiming Belize,
    Spain claiming Gibraltar,
    Venezuela claiming (only part of!) Guyana
    What is it with these Hispanic countries? And ALL of them in shit-state.
    Spend your energy in fixing your own broken countries, tossers.
    Do they claim the moon as well? Wouldn't surprise me. lol

    Jun 07th, 2012 - 08:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @3 Pathological Greed, Lebensraum and Dictatorships are all a part of the Nazi philosophy. Add to this the fact that Spanish speaking countries are poor, regardless of their commodity wealth.

    If you look at it in this context, you see it all makes sense.

    Jun 07th, 2012 - 08:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ExPat 1987

    3 Isolde.

    You forgot Peru claiming part of Chile & Argentina claiming some Islands in Southern Chile.

    P.s Snowing this morning in the Falkland Islands where Union Jacks & Falkland Flags are flying all over the place, great to see......

    Jun 07th, 2012 - 11:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Truth_Telling_Troll

    Anglos generally are goose-stepping marauders who evince a congenital proclivity towards bellicose verging on pugnacious conduct. They claim to have abjured piracy; nevertheless, they still tend to picaroon, and have not truly renounced their ways. This behavior is transparent when one observes how, somehow, they invariably find themselves involved in the middle of conflicts in which they have no business or stake. Look at Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya (the last two however, fortuitously surely, are oil-rich territories).

    It is all part of their monarchical jingoism, bordering on baseliolatry, and obsessions with flag planting (notice how all anglos countries seem consumed by claiming a flag on a stick equals everlasting sovereignty). This is how they idle, instead of working and lucubrating on how to improve the lives of their citizens.

    Their governments engage in austerity measures at home (which at first glance seem ostensible as indicating responsible and judicious frugality), until we realize do so to they keep their bloated military deployments above financial waterline, and dissipation of resources continues there unabated. In other words, at the pecuniary expense of their own populace they choose to maintain unwelcomed presence in foreign and sovereign territories, mainly the Middle East. Engagements which the vast majority of the denizens these governments represent as well as the occupied have univocally objected to.

    As a result you have police and other public servants striking, soon doctors and hospitals themselves for the first time in four decades as well, economies which have floundered back to contraction, and susurrous talk about redefining the inflation gauges which would directly affect investment return of indexed bonds (some calling the proposal a “stealth default”). And this:

    Due to cost-cutting outsourcing...

    Jun 07th, 2012 - 01:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • hammerhead993

    Tobias, the voices in your head....they're not real. They're not real....

    Jun 07th, 2012 - 02:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Condorito

    I went to Guyana once to fix some equipment in a gold mine in the jungle, it was called Omai if I remember right. On arrival my passport was taken from me by a private security firm for my safety and I was taken to a smart hotel in Georgetown. That evening a local rep came round to take me out for dinner. As we left the hotel we were followed out by a big Indian carrying an automatic weapon, “don’t worry” said my host, “just our body guard”. Georgetown, one of the most scary places I have been to.

    Here in Chile when I used to go and fix stuff in mines, I never needed a body guard. Guyana speaks English, Chile speaks Spanish. It is an over simplification to blame language.

    Putting that aside, without knowing the details of the Guyana dispute, I am almost certain reason will be on the side of Guyana.

    Jun 07th, 2012 - 02:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Truth_Telling_Troll

    Everything state above is irrefragable fact. Deflect, digress, and limn tangents till your heart contents, but it remains true. England is in a financial pit, yet it remains obdurately engaged in three middle eastern countries.

    When the UK always has claimed to keep a military a presence in places like the Falklands and Gibraltar at the locals earnest behest.

    The people in the countries above have asked for years for you to absquatulate, yet their pleads fall on deaf ears.

    Dishonor confirmed by it. Picaroon behavior also confirmed by it.

    All while at home you are exacted penury. Penury would be acceptable if everyone shared in the sacrifice, but in the anglo countries it is the people that sacrifice for the benefit of governments to retain a purse capable of sustaining military relevance, and meddle in other's affairs.

    Modern day Sparta.

    Jun 07th, 2012 - 02:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • hammerhead993

    Tobias, the lever on your lithium drip needs to be in the “On” position. Turn it the other way.

    Jun 07th, 2012 - 02:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Simon68


    You are overdoing it. You've gone beyond your limit, my old and valued. You've gone so far as to use outdated mid-western invented slang and missused the word “pleads”, there ain't no such animal as “pleads” as a plural (or singular) noun.
    Stop trying to show off, you're no good at it. Just keep telling us how lovely Mendoza is, you're damn good at that.

    Jun 07th, 2012 - 02:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Truth_Telling_Troll

    So hammerhead993, soon you will have no reliable civil police, and you will have to pray and burn incenses to be vouchsafed a doctor's appointment on a non-striking day. Besides checking your UK indexed-bonds, to make sure their principal has not been gutted by the governments plans to redefine consumer prices.

    And hope they play the right anthems at the Olympics, imagine if they played the Apartheid anthem again on live worldwide tv next time.

    Look on the bright-side though: you can still vaunt your occupying armies in Iraq and Afghanistan and how you ignore the locals sovereign rights and pretend they do not beseech for a withdrawal, and how all that is another proud chapter in UK history.

    Jun 07th, 2012 - 02:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • hammerhead993

    Tobias, I called the orderlies, they'll sort you out directly. If there's anybody you'd like us to call, anybody at all, just let us know. We're all pulling for you.

    Jun 07th, 2012 - 02:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Leiard

    TTT / Tobias.
    Please take your medication for your verbal diarrhoea/diarrhea.

    Your posts are now becoming a total bore and thus hiding any valid points you may offer on the topic under discussion.

    Jun 07th, 2012 - 03:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Truth_Telling_Troll

    I know a culture that is easily roused to jingoism by means of ill-timed flag planting, and one that is manipulated with facile adroitness with bread and circus (parades) to near basileiolatry, may produce a sequacious liege such as yourself. But, stated in simpler English you native can understand: step back. Reflect and perpend on the goings-on around you.

    To your chagrin (if you remain crass of intellect), or dismay (if venturesome enough to consider my points for just a moment), you may arrive at the judgment that indeed, my analysis has some sound and cogent elements to consider.

    Jun 07th, 2012 - 03:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • hammerhead993

    Pull a few Pesos Argentinos off of the toilet paper roll to wipe your eyes....we've lost Tobias. The meds just didn't kick in with him. He was good for some laughs. He was good for seeing words from Old English that the English-speaking world hasn't used for centuries. He'll be sorely missed.

    Jun 07th, 2012 - 03:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Truth_Telling_Troll

    Simon, I find it funny how many of you criticize me for my vocabulary use, because according to you I may misuse some of the words. Assuming you are correct, and I have no doubts that I have been guilty of it... How do you learn a language without making mistakes?

    Are you all going to tell me that the first time you learned the word “hypocrisy” (likely at some point in 3rd or 4th grade), that you have always used it correctly from the 1st time? I really doubt it. Just because you don't remember does not mean it didn't happen. And of course we see babies misusing far simpler words... but it is called LEARNING.

    Something most of us adults seem to frown upon with a corrugated forehead and a look askance at any adult trying to do the same as babies and children.

    I checked the usage of plead, and in fact you are correct. So now, I will have learned something I would have never learned if I had not made the mistake.

    Tell me how that mistake therefore is a bad reflection on me, instead of a reflection of my growth which has ocurred in front of your eyes (I won't make that mistake again, that is growth).

    So I may have misused “esurient” and “edacious” and “voracious” and “gluttonous”, all four have slightly different connotations, but now I can used then off the top of my head in the correct circumstances, because I made mistakes. The rest of you won't make this mistake, but not because you know better, but because you never even tried.

    I won't ever shy away from learning, growth, and yes, tumbling down. It is a common adage in most cultures around the world that you learn more from a gaffe than from success itself.

    Jun 07th, 2012 - 03:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Leiard

    It's sad really to see someone go downhill so quickly .

    I can have a better conversation with my 2 year old grand daughter !

    Jun 07th, 2012 - 03:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Simon68

    17 Truth_Telling_Troll (#)
    Jun 07th, 2012 - 03:40 pm

    Please don't get me wrong, Tobias, I don't say you go to far because of your use of long and complicated wording, rather that you go to far using a word like “absquatulate” which is definetly archaic slang and thus lowers your rating from near perfect to rather dodgy.
    As far as learning from mistakes is concerned you are absolutely right and I congratulate you on your desire to learn.
    I repeat that I really prefer your lyrical songs of praise for your beautiful province than hear you showing off to the commentators on Mercopress, but that is down to self determination, your choice.

    Jun 07th, 2012 - 04:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JohnN

    Irony is that Guyana rep at recent OAS GA meet in Cochabamba gave her support to resolution supporting Argentina and labeling Falkland Islands in English as “Malvinas Islands'.

    Now, Guyana and Venezuela can duke it out over their own territorial squabble and since Guyana is both anglophone and not a charter member of the radical left ALBA group, it can expect a rough ride.

    However, the dispute as gone on for long enough that Guayanese musical group Tradewinds to bring out a tune about the dispute, ”Not a Blade of Grass“. Maybe Falkland Islanders might create a similar tune, ”Not a single Rockhopper..”

    Guyana rep speaks 28:50 on video clip:

    Not a Blade of Grass:

    Jun 07th, 2012 - 07:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    It seems perhaps we are seeing a re-run of the past,

    South America will we presume, will tear its self apart,
    And all in the good name of greed,

    And as long as its mine, and not yours, we will always claim it,
    So tear your selves apart, if that is your wish,
    but just leave the British Falklands out of it,

    Jun 07th, 2012 - 07:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • aussie sunshine

    4 Don´t tell me that Pakistan,India,Bangladesh,are rich????
    All ex British colonies. and there are some African colonies as well..

    Jun 07th, 2012 - 07:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GreekYoghurt

    @4 Seriously, are you a retard? When did Pakistan, India, Bangladesh become English speaking countries?

    Jun 07th, 2012 - 07:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Leiard

    Where are most of our helplines now based ?

    Jun 07th, 2012 - 07:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    not in the UK

    Jun 07th, 2012 - 08:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @22 argentine sunshine,
    lndia is very rich.
    lt just hasn't trickled down to the people at the bottom yet.
    lf it ever does.
    lndia funded our empire, without lndia we could never have afforded the naval arms race with Germany.
    btw- have you remembered the name of that hot summer wind that sweeps through Melbourne?
    lf you come from Melbourne, as you say you do, then you will know its name.
    All Melbournites know its name. lts dreadful, you can't miss it.
    So what's its name, ozzyboy.
    That you don't know, shows me that you don't come from Melbourne.
    ln fact l believe that you are not from Australia at all.
    Prove me wrong, amigo.

    Jun 07th, 2012 - 09:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (26) Isolde

    I'm not your Sunshine but I'm Argentine.......
    Never been in Melbourne but I have a computer....
    That “Wind” of yours wouldn't be a Brickfielder, would it?

    Jun 08th, 2012 - 04:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @27 Think,
    Yes Think, you are correct.
    lt is indeed the Brickfielder.
    l encouraged argentine sunshine to google it, but he couldn't even do that.
    lt wasn't hard to find was it?
    lt is an extremely hot, gritty & irritating wind that everyone hates.
    Bravo sr Think.

    Jun 08th, 2012 - 09:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (28) Isolde

    I'm positive that Aussie Sunshine knows all about Brickfielders....

    Even that it originally was a COLD, gritty & irritating Southerly Sydney wind………….....
    Those Melbournite convicts just squatted the word and used to name their own HOT, gritty & irritating Northerly (1996 to 2011, R.I.P) wind.

    Jun 08th, 2012 - 03:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    What on earth are you raving on about, sr Think?
    Melbourne was settled from Tasmania by British pastrolists who had run out of land on the island. Not convicts.
    There had been a brief convict settlement but it was abandoned.
    And l am CERTAIN that argentine sunshine knew nothing about the wind as he knows very little about Australia.
    He even asked me to tell him its name.
    The wind originates in the hot desert country of Aust.
    Tell me why you think he even knew anything?
    All this is, however, academic.
    For all your new found knowledge of Australia, you still will not get the Falklands.

    Jun 08th, 2012 - 10:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Alexei

    @22 Pakistan, India and Bangladesh were not colonised by Britain, they were merely administered from London for a few years. There are more Indian, Bangladeshi and Pakistani colonists in England than people of British ancestry in all those countries combined. On the other hand the United States, Canada, New Zealand and Australia were properly colonised by Britain, and are now successful independent and relatively peaceful, wealthy and prosperous places. If Britain had properly colonised other parts of the world those places would, no doubt, also be better places to live today.

    Jun 09th, 2012 - 10:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @31 Alexei,
    We should have colonised Patagonia before the useless Argentines drifted that far south.

    Jun 09th, 2012 - 12:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Alexei

    @32 Absolutely :)

    Jun 09th, 2012 - 01:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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