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Argentine striking farmers take to the roads; government rejects negotiations
The Argentine Government warned that it has “no plans” to change the farming sector's agenda, therefore will not meet with members of the Liaison Board amid a national strike that began on Wednesday to protest against the property tax hikes in the Buenos Aires province. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesYou folks voted for her. Now suffer the consequences.
Jun 08th, 2012 - 05:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0No dialog?
Jun 08th, 2012 - 05:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0These farmers shouldn't be allowed to hold an entire Nation to ransom. I hope their Queen (Turkey Neck) goes in hard and teaches them a lesson.
Jun 08th, 2012 - 07:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0Is this just a photo of people queuing for dollars?
Jun 08th, 2012 - 07:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0@3 - Be serious. When you think about it, you can just as easily say there government should not be holding the nation to ransom. Which in economic terms it is, as their economy collaspes, whos going to have to pay the price? Sure the government will likely be outed, but the real price will be paid by the argentine citizens themselves, both in human costs as well as financial cost.
Jun 08th, 2012 - 08:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0Seems like a repeat of 2008, Cristina the Great won then and god willing will now
Jun 08th, 2012 - 08:58 am - Link - Report abuse 05 An interesting observation. Argentina is entering a very difficult phase of its development.
Jun 08th, 2012 - 09:12 am - Link - Report abuse 06 Whatever the price she must grind them into the dirt so they never rise again. She cannot be seen to compromise and if she loses she's finished. God willing.
@6 Dear BK
Jun 08th, 2012 - 10:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0Last night thousands of demonstrators protested outside the Presidentila palace in BA banging pots and pans complaining about corruption, double-digt inflation and the ban on purchasing foreign currency. Perhaps the demonstrations will continue. And grow...And this will be the end of CFK?
The time has come for violence and revolution in Argentina. Maybe they can import some guillotines from France. Fat boy Maximo and CFK should be the first to go.
Jun 08th, 2012 - 10:45 am - Link - Report abuse 06. BK a little revisionist history isn't it? She lost the battle with the farmers in 2008. She will lose again this time.
Jun 08th, 2012 - 11:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0This week so far:
National Truckers Strike
National Farmers Strike
300 Large Factories Closed
2000 employees laid off at Renault
1000s of protesters in the streets against Gov't
Peso over $6/1
beginning of the end and good riddance to bad garbage
@6 Your spelling is atrocious. I think you'll find it's Cristina the Grate! And yankeeboy is quite right. She did lose in 2008. And her “popularity” (odd for a dictator wedded to populism) was found to have “plummeted” from 57.8% to 23%! With ratings like that, how come she's president?
Jun 08th, 2012 - 12:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 011. $50 a vote goes pretty far in the villas...( its was $20 when I lived there so even vote buying has inflation hahahaha)
Jun 08th, 2012 - 12:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oops left one out 100s of road blockades today by CTA
Looks like she is losing control of the Unions....not a good place for a Peronista Prez to be
@12 Is the payment-for-voting paid in US dollars or pesos?
Jun 08th, 2012 - 12:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 013. Pesos, they don't have U$1 to spare but they have presses for as many pesos as they want and probably much more then they can use.
Jun 08th, 2012 - 12:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This Supposed U$ 47 Billion they have in BCRA reserves is more like US11 Billion in available (liquid) funds. The rest is committed.
Oh BTW Toby the US trade benefits went away this week. Let's see how wine sales are doing in a year. Mendoza's largest customer just got a lot more expensive to sell to...
And so it begins!
Jun 08th, 2012 - 12:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I wonder how many helicopters she will need this time to escape with all her goons?
This is the time when it feels amazingly great to have multi-citizenship. :-)
Hmm something was reported on today that I posted yesterday...Spain is “postponing” IDB payments to Arg. It is a brilliant move and soon Arg will have a major U$ cash flow ( IDB WB loans ) cut off. This U$ is extremely important to CFKs budget especially since revenues are already very low. Having more U$ cut is gonna hurt....
Jun 08th, 2012 - 01:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@7 In what way is any of this “development”? I'm just curious....
Jun 08th, 2012 - 01:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 017
Jun 08th, 2012 - 01:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina continues to develop all the time. 30 years ago it was a fully fledged Banana Republic now its solid Third World. To maintain its hard fought Third World Status however it must crush the Farmers, redistribute their land and then invite the Chinese in to help them out.
@17 Lord knows... probably goes towards developing Maximo hotels on KFC's newly bought land.
Jun 08th, 2012 - 01:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina has borrowed over £10 billion from the WB, not sure what for. There is a backlash in Parliament now to stop any further loans being made to Argentina because of their aggressive stance towards the Falklands. The UK is a major shareholder in the WB .
Jun 08th, 2012 - 01:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As has already been stated here, CFKC lost her battle with the farmers in 2008 in spectacular fashion. Why would she stir up that hornet's nest again? She really has no clue.
18. According to NYSE Argentina is a Frontier Country.
Jun 08th, 2012 - 01:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina is the perfect example how Socialism can ruin a country over 2-3 generations. They went from rich to poor from immigrant to servitude.
I think Romney should be using Arg in his adverts against Obama. This is what the USA will look like in 3 generations if we don't' get that bum out of office now!!
Helicópteros para tod@s!!!
Jun 08th, 2012 - 02:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Elaine, the WB loans are for “poverty reductions” and Arg is supposed to use them to pay their “child allowance” program and some unemployment payments. I think it is about U$1b yr they get in disbursements. As I mentioned yesterday the inter-governmental banks have Arg on a “watch list” for imminent collapse.
Jun 08th, 2012 - 02:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 022. CFK will leave RG in the dust when she escapes. I am sure the safe house(s) is (are) ready to go. I just wonder which one she'll choose.
23 yankeeboy (#)
Jun 08th, 2012 - 02:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Jun 08th, 2012 - 02:26 pm
As long as Chavez keeps breathing it will be Venezuela, where Nestor “maybe” is living. If Chavez goes on to a better life, it will probably be Ecuador to start with or perhaps...
ANGOLA???
@23 It won't be a “house”. It will be a “palace”. She is known to have been looking for a suitable palace for years every time she has been abroad.
Jun 08th, 2012 - 02:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@22
Jun 08th, 2012 - 03:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That cracked me up. :D
http://tn.com.ar/envivo/24hs
Jun 08th, 2012 - 05:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Blockades on Puente Purreydon are getting a little out of control ...this is exactly what happened when the last Prez resigned and they had 5 Prez in a week!!
What a bunch of losers...
Argentine government REJECTS negotiations..... hold on a minute, aren't they always asking everyone else for “negotiation” and “dialogue” on various things.
Jun 08th, 2012 - 05:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Come on CFK gov..... ”give peace (negotiation) a chance”
@28 I think she's clearly going to give peace a chance. *cough* bollox *cough*
Jun 08th, 2012 - 05:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Stop British taxpayers’ money supporting World Bank loans to Argentina (outstanding 16.2 BILLION)
Jun 08th, 2012 - 06:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A goverment e-petion has been setup at www.StopFundingArgentina.org
Would recommend everyone to sign it.
http://www.argentinaindependent.com/currentaffairs/newsfromargentina/athlete-in-falklandsmalvinas-advert-not-selected-for-olympics/
Jun 08th, 2012 - 06:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0:/
@27. If you start messing with people's money (their savings are their security) they get restless. This will be her downfall.
Jun 08th, 2012 - 06:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Elaine, They are protesting for a higher wage, it is too bad they don't realize the recession is firmly in place and the Gov't doesn't have U$1 extra to spend.
Jun 08th, 2012 - 07:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I would love to hear what happened with CFK trying to turn over the buses to Macri today. Here take them..I don't want them you keep them...I don't want them either. Well give me the $ for the subsidies or I will have to raise the ticket 4x, sorry no money for you get out.
Kinda what they did with the Subte ( metro)
What a mess these dumb Ks have created.
Socialism para todos $ para no one
It seems to me that if you are going to impose import taxes etc on food that you import, that you should at least listen to the people that grow your own.
Jun 08th, 2012 - 07:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Stop all funding to this corrupt country called Argentina bring down this corrupt country and all who govern Argentina.
Jun 08th, 2012 - 07:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0www.StopFundingArgentina.org
Anyone reading this outside of Argentina sign THE FORM NOW.
Yankeboy, do you have a link to the inter-governmental banks that have Argentina on the watch list?
Jun 08th, 2012 - 07:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thanks.
@33 Yes I saw that but it is all linked. When people think their savings are being eroded or disappearing, they want more money NOW. As you say, they won't get what they are asking for. People are feeling insecure and that is always dangerous.
Jun 08th, 2012 - 07:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I noticed the government wanted to get rid of transport once they could no longer bask in the glow of government subsidies. I had an interesting conversation with two friends last time I was in BsAs. One is very anti- CFKC's government and one voted for her. The anti- CFKC was arguing that the subsidies on transport had to stop because they were unsustainable. The CFKC voter was absolutely outraged that her daily fares had increased so much. I guess the government wants Macri to take the flak but they both associated the increases with the government.
sorry farmers you have nothing she wants, my advice is to tell her to give peace a chance and start negotiations if that doesnt work go crying to the OAS,U.N RSPCA and anyboby else that will listen and threaten companies with court for those that do business with her. or take over government owned companies in an act of nationalization, while threatening your smaller neighbours with economic terrorism, thats of course if you dont get a visit from the “SS La campora” in the middle of the night. Sleep well....
Jun 08th, 2012 - 07:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Look, it is common sense. Farmers produce food.
Jun 08th, 2012 - 08:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Perhaps they should have rolled right over her, and buried the body ,
Jun 08th, 2012 - 08:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0in one of the fields, and see what grows from the rotting corps,
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36. That is first hand knowledge from some people I was having lunch with the other day. I'm sure it will be in the news shortly though...
Jun 08th, 2012 - 08:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I aint no economical expert, perhaps yankeeboy can comment, but it seems to me if you piss off the producers of food and do not import it, your in trouble. Then again, most farmers, are only producing a product and they will go for the best price for it!!!
Jun 08th, 2012 - 08:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thanks Yankeeboy.
Jun 08th, 2012 - 10:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 040 briton (#)
Jun 08th, 2012 - 11:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Jun 08th, 2012 - 08:07 pm
No way, our farmers are trying to produce organic food, thaat would have spoiled the whole thing!!!
The problem here is that to mantain the province of Buenos Aires, the provincial government needs more money, the federal government will not give it any so Scioli has to raise taxes and once again the only productive sector in the province has to pay.
I hope the farmers stick it out the same as they did in 2008, but this time there is no Julio Cobos to keep things on an even keel.
Simon68
Jun 09th, 2012 - 12:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0What did they do in 2008?
45 reality check (#)
Jun 09th, 2012 - 01:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0Jun 09th, 2012 - 12:07 am
They came out against a special export tax on soy and corn. This was debated in the Senate and the voting was a tie and was broken by the then Vice President, Julio Cobos, a Radical who very corageously voted against the Government.
Simon68
Jun 09th, 2012 - 01:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0Good for him, wher is he now. or more like him?
47 reality check (#)
Jun 09th, 2012 - 02:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0Jun 09th, 2012 - 01:45
He's working as a surveyor in his home province of Mendoza, incidently home province to tobias and TTT.
Stop all funding to this corrupt country called Argentina bring down this corrupt country and all who govern Argentina.
Jun 09th, 2012 - 04:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0www.StopFundingArgentina.org
Anyone reading this outside of Argentina sign THE FORM NOW.
Let all this farmers go broke and when at the end of the year can't pay their property tax, auction them off to the best bidder in Argentine pesos. Then turn around and use this money to finance Nationals who will like to buy land in pesos. We love CFK and cheer Argentina's policy.
Jun 09th, 2012 - 02:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@50 Prat hunter letting all argentine farmers go broke would result in no soybeans and no beef production in argentina, therefore no money from exports of soy beans or corned beef, and also no food for the argentine population as you won't have the money to import food, and you won't have the farmers to grow food. Even if the land were sold and food grown on it, it would take at least a good 3-4 years production is back to current levels, by then their would be no argentine population left to feed.
Jun 09th, 2012 - 03:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Am so glad your not in government Prat Hunter, as 45 million argentines would facing death by starvation if you had been.
@50 - Pirat-hunter.
Jun 09th, 2012 - 03:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ah I see you've chosen the Zimbawae method for destroying the economy.
Drive the farmers off the land, and give it as a reward to the La Campora faithful, who are a bunch or workshy lazy sh!ts who will leave the farms to go into ruin.
Then the people starve and you have to let the rest of the world feed you, and take that final step to becoming a bonafide third world country.
A cunning plan, Pirat-hunter, you get my vote - for being the stupidest man alive.
50 Pirat-Hunter (#)
Jun 09th, 2012 - 04:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Jun 09th, 2012 - 02:45 pm
Tell me PH are you really that thick? Do you really believe that Kretina's economic blundering is good for the people?
No farmers=no soy+no corn= no taxes= broke government =PH doesn't cobrar!!!
Brilliant economist our Pirat-Hunter!!!!
These muppets can't even run their own country and they keep telling the Falkland Islands there will be many benefits of being Argentine??
Jun 09th, 2012 - 08:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Cue uncontrolled laughter.
Hey Timmerman (Goebbels/Himmler)-note that the Falkland Islands look after their farmers/people-that's why you're too scared to talk to them aren't you???
53 Simon68
Jun 09th, 2012 - 08:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Maybe this is the time to stand up and be counted. Take a leaf out of Thialand's book and have a revolution while the president is out of the country. Then when he/she comes back to sort it all out, arrest him/her and throw his/her sorry a*se in jail. What was a “blow to democracy” was a superb demonstration of “people power” and you know that people like to get what they want..........
#54 You do know that Timmerman is Jewish?
Jun 09th, 2012 - 11:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#55 What happened in Thailand was a coup, the Prime Minister (not President - Thailand is a monarchy with a king who has been on the throne even longer than Elizabeth II) that the ARMY not the people got rid of remains popular with the people (I'm just stating the facts here, personally I don't even like him) hence years of instability that only ended in the election of his (rather pretty!) younger sister. So the question is, we're all for people power (54% anyone?) but do you actually mean you want a coup???
55 toooldtodieyoung (#)
Jun 10th, 2012 - 12:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0I think that the farmer's strikes + the cacerolazos are the beginning of the Kirchner nightmare. With luck there will be no need for violence, like in 2001. I believe Kretina will leave quietly under her own steam with her US$ 370 odd millions in several suitcases on her way to Venezuela.
If it only costs us 400 grand its cheap at the price.
56 British_Kirchnerist (#),
Jacobo Timerman, Héctor's father, was a real jewish hero. Unfortunately Héctor has forgotten his roots and is sleeping with the enemy.
Argentine government rejects negotiations? But they always seemed so keen on negotiations. In fact they never shut the **** up about negotiations.
Jun 10th, 2012 - 10:32 am - Link - Report abuse 056 You do know that Timmerman is Jewish?
Jun 10th, 2012 - 01:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Is he a practising Jew?
My prediction is CFK will get out of dodge as soon as there is blood in the streets. Violence is coming soon and it doesn't even have to be deliberate. A misfire of a smoke canister into someone's head will be enough to get her going.
Jun 10th, 2012 - 01:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The problem is, like in 2001, there is no one to take her place. They will end up with another half wit out for themselves.
The RGs are not willing to do what is necessary, AUSTERITY , to right the economy. They are too lazy, narcissistic and corrupt to do what Chile and Brazil have done.
It will be more like Bolivia then Brazil in 10 yrs.
59 Be serious (#)
Jun 10th, 2012 - 04:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Jun 10th, 2012 - 01:39 pm
I don't think he's a practicing human being!!!
@59 Timmerlady is very Jewish. He's apparently the big link between Argentina, the NY Jewish Community and Israel, who will all be stepping up to say how terrible the Falklands was ( whilst actually sending weapons on civilian planes to Argentina) just like in the last falklands war.
Jun 10th, 2012 - 11:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You need only read about the Deir Yassin Massacre (deiryassin.org) to understand what those Israelis and their chums do when it involves getting their hands on other people's land.
Golly gosh.
The point I was making about Timmerman wasn't on his religion, to be honest I don't know about that, but his race, which for someone of any religion was enough to send them to the gas chambers under the Nazis, with which some idiot had again compared his own government. Furthermore unless he's simply taking up the issue opportunisticly, I agree with Greek on Israel/Palestine, which I would call a more serious and certaily far more bloody ongoing problem of colonialism than the Falklands/Malvinas issue. But Timmerman has been implementing a broadly pro-Palestinian foreign policy so its another red herring here
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