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Browne turns down Timerman invitation to discuss Falklands next week in Buenos Aires
UK Foreign Office Minister Jeremy Browne turned down on Friday an invitation sent by Argentine Foreign Minister Héctor Timerman to visit Argentina. Timerman had hoped to meet with the UK government official in Buenos Aires when Browne makes his trip to the Falkland Islands next week. Read full article
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Jun 08th, 2012 - 08:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0www.StopFundingArgentina.org
Anyone reading this outside of Argentina sign THE FORM NOW.
He never learns does he,
Jun 08th, 2012 - 08:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Now we suppose it will be in the argentine papers,
The hand of god, was refused by the devil.
The evil British refuse to give back what it stole,
And so it will circumvent all over again,
It is up to the brave honest islanders to not only give a great welcome, [as always]
But to show the world, what lies and deceit from the nasty impostors of CFK government.
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Consistent line from the British. Persistent whine from the Argentines
Jun 08th, 2012 - 08:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This is unbelievable, sorry, have to say this again, UNBELIEVABE!!!!!!!!
Jun 08th, 2012 - 08:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A minister of the UK government visits a UK dependancy invaded by an aggressor, to celebrate the liberation from that aggressor ,and that aggressor, invites him to visit them and talk about the future of that dependenct, as it was then.
Sorry! I just can not, seriously, comprehend this? the invader wants the liberator to visit and talk about how they can hand back the land they failed ro conquer!! The worse thing about it is, shit . If I can see how crass this is, fucking hell, because that is a good way to describe it, fucking hell, do not be suprised if the invitation is turned down. Who the fuck do they have advising them!!!.
He turned down ...becouse have no arguments !
Jun 08th, 2012 - 08:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Two stories grenish building in Stanley Village ?
Timerman, you and your nation are not even worthy of cleaning the dirt off our shoes. Did you expect anything else? Perhaps you could visit us as an economic refugee, you can buy as many dollars as you want here :-)
Jun 08th, 2012 - 08:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Come on! am I the only one who sees how insulting this is? Incredulous does not even begin to describe this. Shit, they throw some crap into the pot, but this really does take the biscuit!
Jun 08th, 2012 - 08:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why would the UK take up such an invitation?
Jun 08th, 2012 - 08:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Last time the Argies stormed out when they didn't get their way and started this rhetoric campaign, the time before they invaded costing lives on both sides.
What an “decent” government would have requested, was for an opportunity to come to the islands and show respect to the dead on both sides, APOLOGISE for the malicious and unprovoked attack, and commit to honouring the self-determination of the islanders, by removing the ridiculous claim in their constitution.
That is what a decent government would do.
What this government does is dishonour and disrespect the dead on both sides. Lie and humiliate themselves on the world stage, and attempt to conquer and colonise a group of islands that they have no moral, ethical or historical claim to.
These people have been humoured too long. Because Argentina has the potential to be a great nation, and has elements of their history that many of their people are excellent folk, they are humoured. This CFK government is akin to Iran or North Korea. Their ability to shamelessly lie is gobsmacking, and on the verge of insanity.
God help the Argentines with this crew in charge...what were you thinking??
@9Monkeymagic.
Jun 08th, 2012 - 09:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is much more simpler than than that. They do not seem to have the slighest idea of decorum. They invite the representative of a nation that engaged in a war of liberation, to visit them at the same time! they are celebrating that liberationRemember this, if they had not invaded, there would have not been any war and there would not have been a thousand dead men!
How this for a scenario
“Thank you for your kind invitation, I would certainly like to attend and discuss the issue that led to the death of 255 0f our young men, at this the 30th anniversary of their deaths.”
UK Foreign Office Minister Jeremy Browne talking about the Argentinean invitation.
Jun 08th, 2012 - 09:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0BBC 6/8/12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmevJzXALpk
@7
Jun 08th, 2012 - 09:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They will now be able to portray themselves as the poor spurned conciliators.
Bu a nice pointed snub in Brown's statement, even if it's probably too subtle for them.
Browne, don't even give Heckler Tamborineman the time of day. CFC and Heckler are the prime architects of the policies to ban Falkland shipping, oil prospecting, a heinous political sporting video, flight bans and complete lack of ethics, respect for the islanders and their refusal to recognize the innate human rights they have for self determination.
Jun 08th, 2012 - 09:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why should the UK talk to Argentina? Argentina is a belligerent, aggressive bully, with no interest in the welfare and freedom of the Falkland Islanders, only in their own attempt to form an Imperial Argentine empire.
Jun 08th, 2012 - 09:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No doubt the RGs will cry that the big bad UK won't talk to them, but until they recognise that the Islanders have the right to determine their own future, in accordance with the UN charter, no talks about any subject will take place.
What the RGs also fail to realise is that the world is fed up of them, and whenever they speak now, all they hear now is white noise.
The sooner this corrupt government is lynched by the Argentine people the better.
MA
Jun 08th, 2012 - 09:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Politics, politics, he aint goin to cum, not if he wants a career politics!
On a personal note may I say I find the invitation extremely insulting and without the slightes degree of compassion or thought towards the relatives of the the fallen.
There is no point talking to a failing nation that cannot even meet its international financial commitments. I am still waiting for the Argies to take us investors to court :-) All talk and no spine these surrender monkeys.
Jun 08th, 2012 - 09:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Beef
Jun 08th, 2012 - 09:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You always have to talk mate! otherwise we have to fight and one ours is not worth a thousand of theirs. Then again I suppose you could ignore them, lets face it, with all that is going on today, they are fairly irrelevent.
@16
Jun 08th, 2012 - 09:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There are alternatives to talking, but the Argentine government are too spineless to do them. Trade embargoes against British companies, sanctions against British entrants into Argentina, encourage their “extensive global support” to do likewise.
Nah...just spout more lies, dishonour the war dead on both sides, and humiliate yourselves in front of any sensible audience.
The country of Argentine deserves better than these cretins.
Cheap Browne turned down the invitation ...he has nothing to wear...he keeps accusing Argetnina “TO IMPOVERISH AN ISOLATED COMMUNITY”...NO MONEY NO CLASS
Jun 08th, 2012 - 09:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0SussieUS
Jun 08th, 2012 - 09:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Typical American, why do you always equate money with class?
Sussie is an Argentinian not American. Americans are our friends.
Jun 08th, 2012 - 10:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Can't you tell from the complete lack of logic in his worthless post?
Reality check.... Don't include all Americans in the same bag....some of us don't equate money with class....many of us are hard working people...
Jun 08th, 2012 - 10:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0To all who keeps challenging my 2 nationalities: I keep saying that legally I have 2 countries. I am an Argentinian and US citizen. I have 2 passports.
Jun 08th, 2012 - 10:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am anti-british since I was raised in Patagonia. Like many US citizens including the one who made the movie “The Queen” and the british who wrote “Princess in Love” the bloody rubbish old english people stinks...
SussieUS ...
Jun 08th, 2012 - 10:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What should happen to the Falklands / Falkland Islanders?
in your opinion
SuisseUS, there is no getting away from it, but you are a moron. You have not said anything of any depth or substance. You just spout your distorted jingoist rhetoric of your hatred of a country that has done nothing to you personally. You keep claiming the Islanders and the British have no class as you continue to spew your drivel. SuisseUS, you are the epitome of what you seem to hate the British for....in that case, you must be a closet Brit. I won't be responding to any of your posts from now on, I wont waste my time with you and your inferiority complex.
Jun 08th, 2012 - 10:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@21AL
Jun 08th, 2012 - 10:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hello Reb, hows things down south? Apologies for the generalisation. The post was intended to get a response (without foul insults etc) from SussieUS. Read your posts before, know how proud you are to be an American. can not see why she is the can not be the same. Difficult for me, to understand, where is her allegiance? Special relationship Reb? You watch my back, I'll watch yours. Only bloody special relationship I ever cared about! Apologies again If post offended you.
We do not indulge Suzy anymore, she embarrasses herself, and those around her,
Jun 08th, 2012 - 10:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just ignore her, poor little orphan,
Back on target.
Anyway, just think of what the UK government could do, in retaliation if it was not to polite and lawgiving,
DR clegg televised on argentine TV 24 -7 .
Call there bluff,??
It shows you how Argentina is run. A last minute invitation - probably decided on a whim and written on the back of a fag packet -when these visits are planned and organised months, even years, in advance by proper governments.
Jun 08th, 2012 - 10:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The clear message (in diplomatic speak) is that the UK is willing to work with Argentina once they get rid of doo-lally -Lil and get a decent government in place. But NOT regarding the Falklands because that issue will never be on the table until the Islanders wish it; which is likely to be NEVER.
#22 Sussie US
Jun 08th, 2012 - 10:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Look where you were born, you twit, wave your American passport around all you want, anyone born in Argentina is Argentine, including foreigners.
@10 Chicken sound effect! Jajajajaaj Te pasaste!
Jun 08th, 2012 - 10:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I wonder what would happen if Browne had agreed to a meeting, but on the Falklands (there are no Malvinas) itself: with sovereignty excluded of course.
Jun 08th, 2012 - 10:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0LOL
Hey Argentina, why not use self-determination to wrest control of the Islands from the British?
Jun 08th, 2012 - 10:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 01. Tender offers to the landowners of the Falklands. 2. Raise the offers until they sell. 3. Qualify residents sympathetic to the Argentine position. 4. Petition for a binding referendum on sovereignty. 5. Conduct a successful plebiscite. 6. Declare victory.
No, wait! Argentina doesn’t have the necessary hard currency!
If the Argentine government had actually wanted to remove the impediments to the successful repatriation of the Falklands, they could have done so via the means of pragmatism. This issue is infinitely more valuable to the regime to be trotted out as a periodic diversion from their own inexplicable failures in governance.
The more substantive matter is that the Argentine people – even though blessed with bountiful resources within their current borders - continue to suffer from a lack of justice inflicted on them by a failed economic system and the absence of the rule of law.
ElaineB
Jun 08th, 2012 - 11:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Regards.
This story really does piss me off. I mean, the one time you think they would pull back and let a dignified celebration take place, on the very anniversary of the cause of a war of liberation. They invite a representaive of the liberators in to talks with the invader.! I mean shit. they are the reason this is happening and they are trying to turn it to their advantage. It is obscene, really is, what is more, they can not see that. There really are no words to describe this. How could anyone even contemplate talking with people like this. Do they not have any repect at all?
29 Islas :-))
Jun 08th, 2012 - 11:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hector Timerman, Argentina's foreign minister, said: “As Winston Churchill would say: 'You need courage to sit down and listen'.”
Come on Jeremy, I know that you are a young diplomat but you can do it don't be scared.
MA
Jun 08th, 2012 - 11:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You do not talk to Winson Churchill on the celebration of VE Day. Which is exactly what you are trying to do. Now show some respect, the same respect we showed you on the 2nd of April,and please go away.
@32. Respect? I don't think the CFKC's chosen ones have any idea of the meaning of the world, she seems to favour sociopaths.
Jun 08th, 2012 - 11:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0JB has made Timmerman look a complete prat. : ) CFKC's government are incapable of long-term thinking and planning, they just give the UK government repeated opportunities to look like adults telling off a tantrum-prone child. I guess they have no self-respect either.
Argentina is a nearly failed state, and the current government will probably fall within a year. They are spending money they do not have, and now have restricted the delivery of dollars to citizens who want to leave the country. Taxes on farmers have just been raised, and the farmers are on strike, meaning there will soon be food shortages. As always, “Patriotism is the last refuge of scoundrels”.
Jun 08th, 2012 - 11:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 036 KenPrice (#)
Jun 08th, 2012 - 11:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Jun 08th, 2012 - 11:39 pm
With all respect, I would change your last quote to: “Nationalism is the last refuge of scoundrels.”
Apart from that your observations are spot on. At last the people here are beginning to react with ”cacerolazos” almost every evening.
Hopefully we are seeing the beginning of the end of this latest peronist nightmare.
Saludos from Argentina.
Simon68
Jun 09th, 2012 - 12:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0Regards
If I remember correctly. “Cacerolazoos” is when the people bang pots together, in a form of civil disturbance, yes?
No problem reality check. I m not offended. Just posted it out there :-)
Jun 09th, 2012 - 12:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0I Appreciate your reply
http://falklandsnews.wordpress.com/2012/06/09/argentina-needs-to-sit-and-listen/
Jun 09th, 2012 - 12:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0:-)
Glad we got it right Reb, lots of respect for the men who wore the grey!!
Jun 09th, 2012 - 12:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0Browne is being too polite. What he should have said is that as long as Argentina is ruled by a cross between the Mafia and the Latin fascists he would not have anything to do with them. What is it with the Argies that they are always quoting long dead British celebrities and statesmen; ' give peace a chance 'etc.
Jun 09th, 2012 - 12:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0The question Browne should ask is when are the going to pay back the 167 billion that Argentina owes.Maybe he could invite Tinpotman to meet the Paras and Marines who wiped the floor with the Argie invasion force.
38 reality check (#)
Jun 09th, 2012 - 01:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0Jun 09th, 2012 - 12:05 am
Correct, in 2001 it was the “Cacerolazos” which brought down the De la Rua Administration.
With a bit of luck it will have the same effect on Kretin's mis-government.
What courage did Timerman need to be parroting Christina Kirchner’s wailing that Argentina wants to usurp the freedom of Falkland Islanders?
Jun 09th, 2012 - 02:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0Timerman’s use of Churchill’s phrase implies that he, as usual, will do the lecturing and Britain will listen. Been listening to him, to Kirchner, and to any number of their echos for some years now. However, if Timerman is expecting quotes, maybe he could appreciate something like:
“The people of the Falklands Islands, like the people of the United Kingdom, are an island race. … They are few in number, but they have the right to live in peace, to choose their own way of life and to determine their own allegiance.”
The Uruguayan experience is that the Argentine Government is just as untrustworthy in BA as anywhere else in the world. Why go to Argentina to hear the same old lies, and promises that will be broken in a week?
Jun 09th, 2012 - 03:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0Dear Timmi
Jun 09th, 2012 - 03:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0“In this solemn hour it is a consolation to recall and to dwell upon our repeated efforts for peace. All have been ill-starred, but all have been faithful and sincere. This is of the highest moral value - and not only moral value, but practical value - at the present time, , because the wholehearted concurrence of scores of millions of men and women, whose co-operation is indispensable and whose comradeship and brotherhood are indispensable, is the only foundation upon which the trial and tribulation of modern war can be endured and surmounted. This moral conviction alone affords that ever-fresh resilience which renews the strength and energy of people in long, doubtful and dark days. Outside, the storms of war may blow and the lands may be lashed with the fury of its gales, but in our own hearts this Sunday morning there is peace. Our hands may be active, but our consciences are at rest.”
Love Winston
Kind of ironic that a bunch of Nazis are quoting Churchill over their greedy desire to colonise someone else's land in a festival of lebensraum.
Jun 09th, 2012 - 04:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0Brown said the right thing though, a consistent line over not discussing the sovereignty of peoples who want to choose their own future.
Timmerlady had been put back in his box again.
Stop all funding to this corrupt country called Argentina bring down this corrupt country and all who govern Argentina.
Jun 09th, 2012 - 04:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0www.StopFundingArgentina.org
Anyone reading this outside of Argentina sign THE FORM NOW.
I'm still waiting for someone to explain how she expects a de-colonisation committee to GIVE her a colony.
Jun 09th, 2012 - 04:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0@49
Jun 09th, 2012 - 06:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0So am I expbrit. ha ha. Talk about double standards, but, no less than we have come to expect from this lot.
Browne is going to the islands to COMMEMORATE the 1982 war not CELEBRATE the war as has been decribed as there is more than a subtle difference in meaning.
He is not going to insult the islanders or the memory of the fallen by going to Argentina to discuss the way Britain could hand over that hard won land from an aggresive invader, come on, seriously, is he going to do that? NO, absoluely not, what the hell are these idiots thinking for Gods sake? Beggars belief! I almost spilt my coffee when I read that one and I thought I was almost amune from Argentine political gaffs.
44 JohnN
Jun 09th, 2012 - 06:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0You said “Timerman’s use of Churchill’s phrase implies that he, as usual, will do the lecturing and Britain will listen”
John, I hope you are enjoying your night in BC, actually MercoStanley doesn't pu the comple article.
Actually he also said this:
“
Hector Timerman, Argentina's foreign minister, said: ”As Winston Churchill would say: 'You need courage to sit down and listen'.“
”He explained: “We will always be ready to talk about a cause we believe is just, but we are also prepared to listen.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/falklandislands/9320722/Falkland-Islands-Argentine-foreign-minister-quotes-Churchill-over-Jeremy-Brown-invite.html
@51 Marcos,
Jun 09th, 2012 - 07:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0l have listened enough to Argentine lies.
You will do ANYTHING & say ANYTHING to gain control of our country.
l do believe that you would make a deal with the devil himself(if he existed!)
Now l believe NOTHING that you say.
lts surer that way.
'I wonder what would happen if Browne had agreed to a meeting, but on the Falklands (there are no Malvinas) itself: with sovereignty excluded of course.'...and representatices of the Islanders present, ChtisR@30
Jun 09th, 2012 - 07:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0“We are assured that novel methods will be adopted, and when we see the originality of malice, the ingenuity of aggression, which our enemy displays, we may certainly prepare ourselves for every kind of novel stratagem and every kind of brutal and treacherous manœuvre. I think that no idea is so outlandish that it should not be considered and viewed with a searching, but at the same time, I hope, with a steady eye. We must never forget the solid assurances of sea power and those which belong to air power if it can be locally exercised.”
Jun 09th, 2012 - 08:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0“I have, myself, full confidence that if all do their duty, if nothing is neglected, and if the best arrangements are made, as they are being made, we shall prove ourselves once more able to defend our island home, to ride out the storm of war, and to outlive the menace of tyranny, if necessary for years, if necessary alone. At any rate, that is what we are going to try to do. That is the resolve of His Majesty's Government — every man of them. That is the will of Parliament and the nation.”
Never forget....!!
So the people who acutally live on the islands dont count?
Jun 09th, 2012 - 08:31 am - Link - Report abuse 052 lsolde---- They have made a deal with the Devil, that's why they sporned that woman who now sits at the high table of the Satan worshipers who sit eagerly eyeing the place of your birth.
Jun 09th, 2012 - 08:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0Stop all funding to this corrupt country called Argentina bring down this corrupt country and all who govern Argentina.
www.StopFundingArgentina.org
Anyone reading this outside of Argentina sign THE FORM NOW.
The conflict began the deception that the English still had the military equipment prowess and most crucially national will.Many believe they don't have that now without any aircraft carriers.But they didn''t actually then either.The Task Forces triumphed not on its own but aided by US logistic and intelligence supports.These frigid islands as in the mirage of Britain alone and magnificent.
Jun 09th, 2012 - 08:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0Here is the defemse “ self determination” being propagated for a group of people who live 8000 miles away from Britain and who are a settler community.The shape of any compromise with Argentina around shared sovereignity was obvious then as it is now.But it is even more unrealisable today.
1982 war gave voice to a intolerant British Nationalism which most people in these isles never believed in vote for,but which won over their
admin classes and elites.
Brirain still in their hearts ,in their institutions and in their elites ...is not a modern country and they need to remember that.
@51 Marcos- ”He explained: “We will always be ready to talk about a cause we believe is just, but we are also prepared to listen.”
Jun 09th, 2012 - 09:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0The act of listening implies some kind of engagement and open-mindedness and is an ACTIVE verb.
What he really meant to say was
”He explained: “We will always be ready to talk about a cause we believe is just, but we are also prepared to HEAR.”, which is more the more accurate description of a nation which has written a pre-determined policy into its Constitution. Hearing is a PASSIVE verb.
The only way that Argentina could “listen” to the UK Government (and, by implication, the Falkland Islanders) is to remove the pre-condition first.
This is one of the main reasons why no discussions can take place and no UN resolutions will be observed, as long as Argentina maintains its current stance.
@51 Marcos Alejandro
Jun 09th, 2012 - 09:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0When you actually have a just cause, let us know.
Your war of aggresion and fascist occupation was not just. Your ongoing attempts to impose your rule on thousands of people who do not want it are not just.
On the other hand, tell us when you are prepared to sit down and listen to us. That is when you will publicly apologise for 1982, renounce your false claim to the falklands and make serious efforts to foster good realtions with the falklanders. That will take courage.
“But they didn''t actually then either.”
Jun 09th, 2012 - 09:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0Cry about it all you like. Without the US' help we still would have kicked you all over the place. Both countries received help from other nations.
“Many believe they don't have that now without any aircraft carriers.”
Many are wrong. The islands are completely fine as they are, You don't need aircraft carriers when:
1. You have no aircraft
2. You can't take the islands.
“who are a settler community”
Coming from a person living in a settler community. Hypocrisy.
@57
Jun 09th, 2012 - 09:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0The idea that “compromise” is the correct way to settle a made up dispute is ridiculous.
I will make a claim on your home and possessions. When you say no, I will murder one of your family, then I will say I am prepared to compromise by just having 50%, and act surprised when you say no.
Ridiculous.
It is also made problematic any sense of anti-Tory progressive patriotism witnessed in Labour's embracing of militaristic and nationalist ideas.Thirty years on the British are no further forward in articulating ,post Cold-War ,post war on terror ,a counter set of stories to those which have proven so persuasive and entrapping.
Jun 09th, 2012 - 09:42 am - Link - Report abuse 062 max .. not a modern country...haha so is a modern country one where inflation is high twenties, black market in currency, junk credit rating. Maybe the city of London the foremost financial city in the world isn't modern, well it can't be can it, GDP is quite a good marker of a countries standing, where is Argentina in the world. And final point what have Argentina given to the world in the last 50 years.? Nothing because they are a selfish insular humiliated race, get over losing the Falklands war, and get over your rubbish economy, just try to build a better future for your country, forget great Britain you will never be as great as us, so stop trying.
Jun 09th, 2012 - 10:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0& 63
Jun 09th, 2012 - 10:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0City ?
Don't forget that they are only guest/hot money not direct investment.
Comparing Argentina with Britain
Comparing like Donkey with Horse .!
@64 Max
Jun 09th, 2012 - 10:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Comparing Argentina with Britain
Comparing like Donkey with Horse .!”
How very true.
57 & 62 Max
Jun 09th, 2012 - 10:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0What the hell is he talking about? Can someone explain?
He uses English words but the sentences make absolutely no sense. Are you pissed?
Patriotism and nationalism is rarely visible in the countries of the British Isles and when it shown, such demonstration are short lived. It is just not the British way and you know nothing about the UK.
Don't confuse the correcting comments on these sites as such. These are simply 'reality checks' as someone, most appropriately, uses on this site as an alias. You are being corrected in your delusions. Put in place if you like.
We also know the meaning of pseudo-patriotism as used frequently by KFC and her cohorts. Nobody is the UK is being deceived, not least the British Government.
@66 I cannot explain. I'm not very nationalistic, I even think plebs should be a little more dignified when they're not watching sky tv all day and eating canapes from iceland. Like seriously, plebs should know spontaneous destructive rioting is only allowed when you're in the Bullingdon Club, and perverting the course of justice and being a bigoted racist on tv is only allowed if you own a house in Chipping Norton.
Jun 09th, 2012 - 10:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0Plebs should know their place.
& 66
Jun 09th, 2012 - 10:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0Looking back , 1982 war was their first insight that they might not live in an entirely rational country.
68 Max
Jun 09th, 2012 - 10:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0We are missing a subject (of the sentence)
@68
Jun 09th, 2012 - 11:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0Looking back , 1982 war it was Argentina's first insight that they might not live in an entirely rational country.
70. Thought he was still talking about donkeys & horses. He was referring to the Argentinians then? Now I understand (and agree).
Jun 09th, 2012 - 11:25 am - Link - Report abuse 067. High jinks, high jinks. DC only threw two plant pots. There for the grace of God though when I look back on what we got up to.
Canapes from Iceland? Thought they only sold reconstituted Cod or dodgy bank saving accounts?
Take the point on the 'plebeius' though. Just s few scumbags and a whole lot who need to find a stake in all that is happening. Sad about the racist comment. Hoped we had put that behind us a long time ago.
#57 Max
Jun 09th, 2012 - 11:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0“The conflict began the deception that the English still had the military equipment prowess and most crucially national will.Many believe they don't have that now without any aircraft carriers.But they didn''t actually then either.The Task Forces triumphed not on its own but aided by US logistic and intelligence supports.”
Time to get over it Argentina, why don't you try invading again? This time I would black-out C. Rivadavia, B. Blanca and perhaps Cordoba, I think you would be in for a much different response this time. I saw some of your navy about a month ago, not sure if they are able to leave port and if you don't sell some soybeans you might as well mothball them! Save some shred of dignity, you all talk tough in forums but when you get home you still have to beg cretina to take your balls out of her purse! Pathetic!
#57 Max
Jun 09th, 2012 - 01:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“The conflict began the deception that the English still had the military equipment prowess and most crucially national will.”
1982 ended in a conclusive British victory by a Task Force sent 8000 miles to liberate 1500 people from 14000 invaders.
What other proof do you need of military prowess and national will?
18 SussieUS (#) your rumbled, your an Argentinian Minister, far too in line with the current nonsense that is being spouted routinely out the Pink house of spin (wobble?)
Jun 09th, 2012 - 01:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@5 It's a missile silo, what else?
Jun 09th, 2012 - 02:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@29 Fart sound effect. There's a Campora thug here somewhere!
@33 As Winston Churchill DID say “we shall fight on the seas and oceans, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender.” Might be a better quote for Tinpotman to remember!
@51 Don't be a silly billy. Just look at the performance of yourself and most of your compatriots on here. An incredible number of people have told all of you an incredible number of times that you are mistaken. That the FACTS are not what you have been taught. Do you “listen”? Do you “hear”? You don't. You ignore. You say things like “Jajajajajajaja” and “AHAHAHAHAHAHAH”. A couple of examples: How many times have you been informed that the British landed on the Falklands in 1690 and formally claimed sovereignty in 1765? Yet you still jabber on about 1833 as though you were peacefully inhabiting and Britain popped up out of the blue and shoved you off. How many times have you been informed that the British did NOT evict all the settlers in 1833? But you persist with that untruth even when it is pointed out that one of your “heroes” was still on the Islands six months later! And you want us to think Tinpotman is any different?
@66 I can help you a little bit. He doesn't know what it means either. Somebody, quite possibly in the Foreign Ministry, sent him a new script. He was a bit pushed for time so he just copied it. Notice “Brirain still in their hearts”? If you look at later posts, you will see that he isn't really capable of more than one sentence at a time.
Overall, watch the intelliargie approach. Tinpotman asks an FCO OFFICIAL to enter into negotiations. Now he wants negotiations with Browne. Later this month CFK will tell C24 “WE try.”
59 shb “On the other hand, tell us when you are prepared to sit down and listen to us. That is when you will publicly apologise for 1982”
Jun 09th, 2012 - 03:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I publicly apologise for the short but wrong war of 1982, I publicly apologise on behalf of the same criminal dictators, now dead or in jail sent by CFK, that tortured and killed 30000 of my fellow countrymen, including people that I knew well, regardless of the full support given to them by Great Britain prior to the war.
Excellent note Timerman Jeremy Browne:
Jun 09th, 2012 - 03:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The chancellor said in his letter that “as Sir Winston Churchill could say: 'Just as it takes courage to stand up and speak, courage is also required to sit and listen.' We are always ready to speak for what we think right, but we have the same willingness to sit down and listen. ”Timerman also suggested he would be an “excellent opportunity” for Browne to “make contact with the British community, one of the oldest in Argentina, has about 250,000 members, dedicated to exercise their trades and professions in all sectors of national life. ”
Stop all funding to this corrupt country called Argentina bring down this corrupt country and all who govern Argentina.
Jun 09th, 2012 - 03:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0AHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHH
Who cares about uk!
uk is FINISHED!!
dOWN WITH THE BRITS pirates!
@77,78 Chaps, if maximo-fatto goes into exile with all his cream buns, will you two be going with him?
Jun 09th, 2012 - 03:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@57 Max, don't know if you've been paying attention but we needed aircraft carriers in 82 because there was no air defence on the Islands at the time, just a very small garrison of Royal Marines and some civilians with shotguns. Now however we have 4 Typhoons which could decimate your entire airforce in one encounter, same goes for HMS Dauntless, not to mention the air defence systems on the Islands themselves, your aircraft only have top lift off the runway and the Radar on the Falkland Islands has them. Logistics are no longer a problem so we wouldn't need any assistance from anybody. You are pissing against the wind give it up for god sake. Oh don't mention the hunter killer submarine OOOPPPS!
Jun 09th, 2012 - 03:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 078
Jun 09th, 2012 - 04:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh Malvi, here you go again.
You're nothing but a sad dickhead mate. Nobody is taking any notice or your repetitive dribble. It doesn't even make any sense.
@76 You haven't sent the apologies of the millions of argie “people” who spent soooo many hours celebrating in the streets about the miserable, cowardly, unjustified invasion of some peaceful islands. Nor have you apologised for your lying, unjustified and totally false claims to our territory.
Jun 09th, 2012 - 04:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@77 Could argieland sink any lower?
@78 AHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHH Sorry, what comes next?
Just as a matter of interest, could anybody tell me how many argies actually have brains? That work?
There is nothing to discuss about the Falkland Islands with Argentina The Falkland Islanders do not want anything to do with Argentina so that puts end to it. Why waste UK taxpayer's money to go there when there is nothing to discuss!
Jun 09th, 2012 - 04:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@83 Pat you mean we would have had to pay for the visit ourselves.........oh thats right they've no money. Totally agree with you, it's about time the British Goverment told RGenweener in no uncertain terms that they are wasting thier time and ours, state it in front of the whole world then perhaps other countries will tell rgenweeners goverment to shut it and stop stealing decent peoples oxygen.
Jun 09th, 2012 - 04:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Who the hell in their right mind would want to 'sit down and listen' to Timerman?
Jun 09th, 2012 - 05:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Timerman is either completely illiterate or filled up with Argentine propaganda to understand that Argentina has no legal or moral rights to or over the Falkland Islands and that 'his/Argentina's' claims to the Islands are based on geographical proximity only.
The time to talk to people like Timeraman ended in 1982 and that position has been reinforced by the bahaviour of the CFK regime to the Islanders over the past few months.
Exit, CFK.
Jun 09th, 2012 - 05:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Interesting how Cuba's Prensa Latina sees it, but at least they lable as “Falkland Islands” in their often-inaccurate and incorrect but humorously-weird English version of their original Spanish release.
Jun 09th, 2012 - 05:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Prensa says that it is Browne who “...revives tensions regarding that South Atlantic territory claimed by Argentina” and that the “...argument of the Falkland self-determination has been hardly criticized by Argentina, as the so-called kelpers descend from the British residents in the island, as faithful subjects of that European monarchy, after expelling ancient Argentinian-origin settlers by force in 1833....Falkland war is a sensible issue that left a deep impression in the Argentinian people's national awareness... described Argentina as the country that has dominated the Falkland Islands, in reference to the prohibition that the ships with the Falkland flag could dock Latin American ports.”
Reference:
“British State Secretary Increases Tensions on Falkland Islands”:
http://www.plenglish.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=514426&Itemid=1
to ..& 75 ..& 80 ...adding for other all comment owners....
Jun 09th, 2012 - 05:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“ Churchilism” was about accepting British declinism while pretending otherwise,invoking the illusion grandeur,while accepting reality.The 1982 War aided the invention of a new myth of late Churchilism,of believing that decline has been defeated and that British had a magical
unique place in the sun,aided by the legacy of Empire,skills of their Armed Forces and relationship with the US.
Well Max your are correct are armed forces are very skilled, Turtle neck Tinman, and the rest would be very wise to remember that as well as our special relationship with our brothers in arms across the pond
Jun 09th, 2012 - 06:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@87
Jun 09th, 2012 - 06:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“after expelling ANCIENT Argentine-origin settlers by force in 1833”
Isn't that just beautiful, they can't even be bothered to make up decent lies.
Let's explore the word Ancient.
The largest amount of time even claimed by the Argentines is 1823-1833. So does 10 years constitute ANCIENT?
However we know that 1823 is a lie, as it relates to Jewitts claim to the islands, he certainly wasn't “a settler” and was back in Argentina by 1825.
The Vernet community arriving around 1826 were settlers, and were neither Argentine (private) nor removed by force (encouraged to stay), so they were there seven years by 1833...is that the ANCIENT settlement?
Of course the only Argentines that were on the islands when the HMS Clio arrived where the penal colony. They were not settlers, but a military group (who had already murdered their captain in front of his family). These 20 or so folk arrived in October 1832. They were expelled, and were Argentine, but were not settlers.
So there we go...according to the Cubans, the Ancient settlers of Argentine origin..had been there 3 months, were not settlers, and as Argentina itself was still young as a country, it is very doubtful any of them were ”of Argentine origin.
And folk wonder why none of this Latino ranting is taken seriously...!
@88
Jun 09th, 2012 - 06:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This is just the cliche view of the UK which was already cheap currency well before 1982. It might even be true for some people and in some respects. But even so it cannot negate either the UK achievement of 1982, or the scale of the Argentine defeat. Nor does it add any credence to the Argentine claim to the islands.
Max bet you wish you had someone Churchillian running your country instead of a Botoxed up turkey and her gaggle of followers who are stripping you bare as we speak
Jun 09th, 2012 - 06:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@33 Hector Timerman, Argentina's foreign minister, said: “As Winston Churchill would say: 'You need courage to sit down and listen'.”
Jun 09th, 2012 - 08:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The problem is that Argentina do not have the courage to listen to the Falkland Islanders, a country with over 39million less people than Argentina. The truth is, the Argentines are actually scared of the Falklnd Islanders, and their dangerous notions of democracy and how to run a country properly. So as they are the rightful owners of the islands, why should the UK listen to Timmerman???? When the Argentines finally realise that the world is operated on principles appropriate to 2012 and not the 1500s-1800s then perhaps the penny (peso? naaaah), will drop. Unfortunately the FIDF is not yet strong enough to repel another invasion but the UK is.
@77 We have an ambassador in Buenos Aires working closely with the British community as well as representing The Queen.
Jun 09th, 2012 - 08:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 079 GreekYoghurt
Jun 09th, 2012 - 08:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's like you've never been away isn't it? By the way, long time no comment..... Did you take a leave of absence? or have you just been lying low?
And I bet that you just wanted something to change while you'd been away huh? But here we are yet again, Malvi-baby is still on his meds and appears to have relapsed from the excellent progress he made previously. Did you know that last month, he actually posted a comment that didn't have “AHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHH
” in it? I was there and saw it for myself, it was a thing of beauty.
But the roundabout it turneth again with the same old, same old...... can you stop it please? all the sane people in this world want to get off!! maybe we should book Timmerman for a personal appearance tour, the comedy value would be hard to pass up!!!
88 Max
Jun 09th, 2012 - 09:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Maximilian is off on one again!
What the fxxk does......................... to ..& 75 ..& 80 ...adding for other all comment owners....mean?
Rather than copy & pasting random unassociated quotes that have no relevance to to anything, never mind in response to your purported replies to the posting of others, just gives us the link rather than looking to just paste!
We need to understand whose words you are quoting, particularly given that the quotes go back a long period of time.
Regardless, you seem to believe that intellectual twaddle is something other than more simply twaddle. Your postings are all the same and these are not your words.
The taking of the Falkland Islands was simply a case of destroying some fascist bastards and no different to destroying some fascist bastards in 1939 / 1945 in Europe.
Churchill was in fact a pragmatic man and that is why Britain was able to bring together the means of the destruction of the axis powers. He did it and gambled everything on his belief and his belief in the British people, to be able to do so .
In all wars prior to the second world war, reparations were paid. None were paid this time, on the recommendations of a Brit (John Maynard Keynes) and Britain was skint (really skint). Not anymore. Britain could buy and sell Argentina about six times over, just on GDP. Notwithstanding this and the fact that GDP is only one measure of wealth, the wealth in the UK is beyond measure and certainly beyond your comprehension.
THE MALVINAS ARE ARGENTINE
Jun 09th, 2012 - 09:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The usurper country, Britain says they were before 1833 and the Malvinas have always been British, then the list of governors SPANISH appointed by the government SPANISH of Buenos Aires:
1767-1773 F. Ruiz Puente
1773-1774 D. Chauri
1774-1777 F. Gil y Lemos y Taboada
1777-1779 R. Carassa y Souza
1779-1781 S. de Medina y Juan
1781-1783 J. M. del Carmen Altolaguirre
1783-1784 F. D. Montemayor
1784-1785 A. de Figueroa
1785-1786 R. de Clairac y Villalonga
1786-1787 P. de Mesa y Castro
1787-1788 R. de Clairac y Villalonga
1788-1789 P. de Mesa y Castro
1789-1790 R. de Clairac y Villalonga
1790-1791 J. J. de Elizalde y Ustariz
1791-1792 P. P. Sanguineto
1792-1793 J. J. de Elizalde y Ustariz
1793-1794 P. P. Sanguineto
1794-1795 J. de Aldana y Ortega
1795-1796 P. P. Sanguineto
1796-1797 J. de Aldana y Ortega
1797-1798 L. de Medina y Torres
1798-1799 F. X. de Viana y Alzaibar
1799-1800 L. de Medina y Torres
1800-1801 F. X. de Viana y Alzaibar
1801-1802 R. Fernández de Villegas
1802-1803 B. de Bonavía
1803-1804 A. L. de Ibarra y Oxinando
1804-1805 B. de Bonavía
1805-1806 A. L. de Ibarra y Oxinando
1806-1808 B. de Bonavía
1809-1810 G. Bondas
1810-1811 P. G. Martínez
After the emancipation of America, by the principle uti possidetis juris, universally accepted, become independent countries inherited the territorial boundaries they had before emancipation, then the governors ARGENTINE appointed by the government ARGENTINE of Buenos Aires.
1820-1821 D. Jewett
1821-1821 W. Mason
1824-1824 P. Areguatí
1829-1832 L. Vernet
1832-1832 J. F. Mestivier
1832-1833 J. M. Pinedo
Never the Malvinas were res nullius as claimed thieves pirates. Also demonstrated that the Malvinas always depended on the government of Buenos Aires. During all these years (66) there was no English on the Malvinas and Spain first and Argentine then “reigned” over the entire archipelago without complaint from any country.
The Spanish Government was based in Buenos Aires then?
Jun 09th, 2012 - 09:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just work back on these postings for details of Britain's true ownership of these Islands. I do think that nobody would wish to repeat that already just recently stated, then go to bed, your pissed and dreaming.
A Great British hero: Sir Francis Drake (PRIVATEER FIRST CLASS)
@97 José Malvinero,
Jun 09th, 2012 - 09:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You've just wasted your time with irrelevant lies.
The Falklands are ours & always will be.
@97 - Jose.
Jun 09th, 2012 - 10:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You've really shot yourself in the foot with this post haven't you?
uti possidetis juris - basically what one possesses at the end of a conflict or war the victor has the right to keep legally.
For example: the United States in their War of Indpendence from Britain. South American countries in their Wars of Independence from Spain.
However, Argentina never won a war to claim the Falkland Islands. Technically you lost, twice. 1st time in 1833 - where uti possidetis juris meant that the islands were British as we were the victors, and the 2nd time in 1982 when the British were the victors. So no, legally you lost the Islands twice, and uti possidetis juris comes down firmly on Britains side.
None of the Spanish Governors were recognised by the British, by the way, and since you kicked the Spanish out, it meant that you didn't recognise the authority of Spain or their governors either.
Now in 1832, the United Provinces tried their luck with a land grab, presuming that the British didn't have an interest or that the Falklands were too far away to bother with. However, that land grab failed, even before the British arrived to remove the illegal penal colony, as that colony had already failed. No one can blame the UP for pushing its luck back then, but Argentina has no valid claim that can usurp the 180 years plus continuous colonisation by the Falkland Islanders or their right to determine their own future and allegiance.
So keep on crying, you can't even provide evidence to back up your erroneous claims that don't end up making you look foolish.
John McBride (Captain) Falkland Islands 1766 and leader of the British settlement at Port Egmont established in 1765.
Jun 09th, 2012 - 10:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Spanish Military Administrator, attempted usurper and squatter, Felipe Ruíz Puente from 1767.
@97 Just some questions, thicko.
Jun 09th, 2012 - 10:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Which ones of these “governors” set a toe on the Islands?
The “principle” of “uti possidetis juris” isn't “universally” accepted, the south american version isn't accepted anywhere outside south america and, finally, is only a principle not a law. But, in any event, it is negated by the principle of “uti possidetis”. 1982. We WIN. You LOSE. AGAIN.
Have you ever considered the FACT that WE, being British, are incredibly more intelligent than YOU? It's why we've been beating the sh*te out of you and your ancestors for hundreds of years.
To all kelpers.
Jun 09th, 2012 - 10:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You will always be pirates. You are as it is said in Arg. “Amargos” (“bitter”).
I invite you to see a football match and eat an asado, I am sure that your boring life will change definitely. You are hermits that want to live isolated. You will never be integrated to south america. Come back to London and leave these islands that are Argentine.-
102.
Jun 09th, 2012 - 10:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0102
Certain irony in your last paragraph in that the Spanish cleared off the British Falkland Islands because they and the Portuguese (our oldest allies) were being attacked by Napoleon when he marched into the Iberian Peninsula. It was the British who kicked him after the battle of Vitoria (in the Basque Country) after successfully defending Lisbon.
93 Pete Bog (#)
Jun 09th, 2012 - 11:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Jun 09th, 2012 - 08:00
You have put your finger on it, Pete. We are scared of you, we are terrified that your direct democracy is contagious.
Can you imagine Kretina trying to win an election in the Falklands?
The very thought is horrifying!!!
103 deutscher (#)
Jun 09th, 2012 - 10:42
You are so right, the Falkland Islanders will never be integrated into South America, they live quite happily in the South Atlantic.
Cheers from Argentina.
103 deutscher (#): When I read that post, I can hear Lord Haw Haw, Tokyo Rose or Pyongyang Sally...
Jun 10th, 2012 - 12:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0103 deutscher
Jun 10th, 2012 - 02:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0Oh pipe down you boring sod. You don't know anything about the way we live, and unless you take the trouble to find out you never will. We certainly don't need to be told what we think by the likes of you.
Why would we be bitter? We have what we want. You're the ones crying because you want what belongs to someone alse and can't have it. Shame.
@ 103 deutscher
Jun 10th, 2012 - 03:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0Are you descended from one of the 10,000 ( or more ) deutschers
who fled Nazi Germany in 1945 after the fall of the Third Reich
and were welcomed by the Argie baby Fuehrer Juan Peron with open arms ?
http://falklandsnews.wordpress.com/2012/06/10/falklanders-rights-challenged/
Jun 10th, 2012 - 05:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0And on it goes :-)
@97
Jun 10th, 2012 - 08:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0As you have “done your homework”, I will humour you with a response.
We all agree with reference to the Spanish governors, and indeed that Spain had a settlement on the islands. I think we can all agree that Britain also kept a small area of the islands at the same time. The sovereignty issue between Britain and Spain remained unresolved but up to 1811 (much to the chagrin of many here). I would suggest the weight of evidence supports Spain as their population was larger.
However as you point out, Spain withdrew in 1811. There was no population on the island. Neither Spain nor Britain withdrew it's sovereignty claim, but to me, without a civilian population to back it up, it was worthless.
Taking your next names.
None of the first three bought a civilian population with them. Their sovereignty claim is no more valid than the many many British ships that stopped at the island in the 1820s, assuming sovereignty, and carrying on around Cape Horn. Claiming sovereignty doesn't result in sovereignty.
Luke Vernet did indeed set up a settlement. He absolutely DID NOT consider himself the Argentine Governor of the Islands. indeed he requested permission for his PRIVATE enterprise from both the Argentine and British governments. (incidentally, he later claimed to have preferred British sovereignty, but irrelevant in this debate).
So, it all comes down to Mestevier and Pinedo. The British do not argue that they arrived in October 1832, do not argue that they were there to claim sovereignty, and do not argue that Argentina may have thought of them as Governors.
Mestevier was murdered in front of his family by his own crew and Pinedo (together with 20 cohorts) was forced to leave by the crew of HMS Clio in January 1833.
So, the Argentine “claim” to the islands based on uti possidetis juris is irrelevant as Spain relinquished their sovereignty, and equally it would grant Argentina sovereignty over Uruguay.
The civilian population claim is lies.
his
The initial feeling you had all those years ago has been born out by the tragedy of Britain over the last three decades .It has been golden era of rhetoric,triumphalism about the “ British Economic Miracle” and of hectoring and lecturing Europe about its supposedly out of day “ social order”.
Jun 10th, 2012 - 09:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0This truely is the house Empress M.Thatcher and her foreign adventure built.A land of illusions and make belief which has invented a rather myopic and ultimately dangerous sense of who “ they ” are meant to be and how they see theirselves.
There were no Spanish Governors after 1777 when Francisco Gil de Taboada y Lemos, left Puerto Soledad. East Falkland was thereafter governed from the mainland. There was however a military commander in charge of the penal colony.
Jun 10th, 2012 - 09:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://falklandstimeline.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/falklands-history8.pdf
Its time to invite Argentina to the International Court of Justice ,let the world see how strong their case is.
Jun 10th, 2012 - 09:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0Maxi, Maxi, you are wasting computer space again. Where did you get the word 'hectoring' from? Your English teacher wants sacking asking you to use words such as this.
Jun 10th, 2012 - 09:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0To indicate to us that you have the slightest idea of what you are talking please give some examples to substantiate your list of sweeping statements with particular emphasis on Britain's bullying and aggressive behaviour towards Europe. Also justify your view that Thatcher is an Imperialist. Prove to us that you are not just a dickhead who is posting here without the slightest idea of what you are talking about and who is simply line or paragraph pinching from your school books.
@97 José Malvinero (#)
Jun 10th, 2012 - 10:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0You really made me laugh with that one- are you for real?
1767-1773 F. Ruiz Puente, was'nt that the one who oversaw the handover from FRANCE a year AFTER we had set up shop?
It gets better - he was the one who then was involved in the INVASION AND REMOVAL OF the British colony - he enforced your claim at gunpoint, forcing out a group of people who had been there BEFORE you.........
Then again, it's what your lot have done ever since, your anger and hatred towards us and the falklanders is pure jealousy at their success compared to you and and frustration at somebody stopping your grubby little land grabs.
More evidence of Argentina brainwashing their school children. Absolutely disgusting.
Jun 10th, 2012 - 10:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://chubut.lanoticia1.com/noticia/200-colegios-provinciales-denominaran-a-una-de-sus-aulas-las-malvinas-son-argentinas%E2%80%9D-17800.html
@106 What about Corned Beef Kate from 1982?
Jun 10th, 2012 - 10:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0116 Steve
Jun 10th, 2012 - 11:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0Should we worry? Well I suppose Hitler indoctrinated his 'youth' into his way of thinking and kids denounced their parents and little friends as being Jews and so on. It is shame on these Argentinian parents really for allowing the State to attempt to brainwash their children with untruths.
However, as a little kid were we interested in wars that took place, to us, lifetimes ago?
Ignoring the dimwits that this site attracts, most of these kids as they grow up will learn to challenge all of the bollocks they have been taught by their teachers, just as we were. We live in an age where this task is made very easy, unlike the past.
Sad thing is that some of the more impressionable kids will develop hatreds and distrusts that will stay with them for the rest of their lives, again as some of the dimwits on this site. Look at Maxi and MALEVOLENT 1.
The world will pay attention to Argentina when it becomes an Economic and Military power. Countries like the UK and US only respect those countries that have a heavy currency and lots of bang power.
Jun 10th, 2012 - 12:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0119 Livingthedream
Jun 10th, 2012 - 01:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I have news for you. The USA and the UK already pays attention to Argentina when she acts with decency and with respect for truth and and international norms.
After killing thousands of your own helpless people you did think you were big time and acted this out by subjugating a couple of thousand of people who had been living in peace for a 150 years, across the water.
The trouble with your 'hopes' is that the world moves on. In a hundred years time, you will still be unable to do anything about anything if it involves deception, lies, aggression and land grabs.
Join the real world and acquire some half decent governance and just watch how much progress your country can make with the support and friendship of the sane world. Do yourself a favour.
@97
Jun 10th, 2012 - 01:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Anyway, you can stop now. Your boss just tweeted:
Cristina Fernandez: “Es imposible resolver los problemas del siglo XXI con textos del siglo XIX, porque no tiene absolutamente nada q ver con lo q está pasando.”
Is this an interesting shift?
@119 Livingthedream
Jun 10th, 2012 - 02:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The only things stopping Argentina from being a half-decent country are:
(i) It is 'hung up on the great 'Malvinas lie' with the population being fed by propaganda instead of history and
(ii) The country has been led by a series of inept politicians ever since and including Peron.
@122 I think peronism is pretty much the poisoned elephant in the room. Sadly it's not going to be leaving any time soon.
Jun 10th, 2012 - 02:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0113. I would be nervous about taking this to the ICJ. No matter how strong a case the islanders have. The UN would no doubt contrive to ensure that the 'jury' did not contain any NATO, EU, or Commonwealth countries. It would be a committee of despotic nations just like the C24 who would relish putting the boot into the UK no matter how unjustly. Better to rely on the Royal Navy than the ICJ.
Jun 10th, 2012 - 02:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 103 deutscher
Jun 10th, 2012 - 03:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are a very typical of the type of Argentinian who thinks he knows all about us but makes no effort at all to find out if any of it is true. Instead of listening to lies and spouting rubbish, do some proper research before you make yourself look like an idiot again. Falkland Islanders post on these threads - try asking us sensible questions.
111 I can only conclude that Max is software: an automated unrelated-fact and nonsense emitting Argentine propagandabot
123 GreekYoghurt (#)
Jun 10th, 2012 - 03:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Jun 10th, 2012 - 02:44 pm
Unfortunately you are 100% right. Peronism, as I have said before is not a political party, it is a sysrem designed to create and maintain power. As it is not a political or ecenomic system it has no answers to political or economic problems. hus we see Kretina and her cohorts grabbing at straws trying to block up the holes in the badly made dyke that they are trying to maintain.
With luck the Argentine people are beginning to wake up to the disaster that they have in front of them, if all goes well Kretina and her half baked troupe will take to their helicopters and/or Aerolineas Argentinas Embrears and fly off to Venezuela or Angola or anywhere a long way from here, and let someone, maybe Julio Cobos, clear up the ghastly mess they've made.
I may have too grim a view of the ICJ. Of 15 Judges 5 only are from W Europe who we could perhaps depend on to be honest brokers. The other 10 are 2 from Latin America who have no notion of fair play. 3 Anti Colonials from Africa. 3 from Asia inc China and we know their views. and 2 from E Europe inc Russia no doubt. Judges are supposed to be impartial, I dont think the UK would have a chance of a fair hearing with that lot. Am I being unfair.
Jun 10th, 2012 - 03:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are being unfair but in any case are we not past any consideration of using the ICJ. We have fought a war and that is the end of it. Would we now give a decision to some old farts after British blood has been spilt?
Jun 10th, 2012 - 04:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Don't think so. Remember British resolve and history. Remember the love we have for our armed forces.
@121 Wow! Where did you get that? If she sticks with it, nothing that took place before the 20th century will have any relevance. And the only relevant thing that took place in the 20th century was argieland's vicious, unprovoked, cowardly and illegal invasion!
Jun 10th, 2012 - 04:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@124 Is it not the case that either of the litigants before the ICJ can object to any of the judges?
129 Conqueror
Jun 10th, 2012 - 04:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Would you give a decision to some old farts even if you had hand picked them all? After a vicious, unprovoked, cowardly and illegal invasion?
The death of 255 British servicemen and 3 Falkland Islanders.
If either litigant can object to any judge we would be there for ever. The RGs would keep objecting until all 15 were from Latin America.
Jun 10th, 2012 - 04:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@129 Conqueror
Jun 10th, 2012 - 04:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Twitter, Cuenta Oficial de la Presidenta de la Nación Argentina, Cristina Fernández de Kirchner, 1:35 CET today
So either the claim for the Falklands has just been renounced, or some poor intern is in for a hard time.
More chance of the case being heard by Noddy, Mr Plod and Big Ears in toy town than at the ICJ.
Jun 10th, 2012 - 05:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0KFCs tweets are also being over interpreted.
@130 To be quite honest with you, I would love to see argieland try to defend its lies in a public, fully-reported hearing where every single argie contention was questioned, subjected to forensic cross-examination and the argies are invited to explain all the inconsistencies and where all documents are subjected to forensic examination. Can you imagine the argies trying to explain Spain's supposed “sovereignty” when it is shown that they only bought the settlement of Port Louis? Or why Spain restored all seized British goods and chattels and made restitution in 1771? Or how a pirate, Jewett, could carry out an “official” act? Or why Vernet needed British permission to go to the Islands? Or why Vernet was required to send official reports about his activities to Britain? How about when they are asked to produce the ship's logs and passenger lists showing how all the argie “settlers” were transported back to argieland? And to explain how Rivero, supposedly forcibly ejected in January 1833, was actually arrested in the Islands in January 1834. It would also be good to see the argies attempting to explain the Arana-Southern Treaty and the statement by the argie vice-president, addressing his Congress in 1866, that the only remaining dispute between argieland and Britain was the compensation due from argieland to some English citizens. Don't you think that would be funny? Can't you just imagine them slowly getting smaller and smaller and finally slinking away? And then the laughter, all around the world?
Jun 10th, 2012 - 05:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@131 Having looked more closely, it seems that the court must represent the “main forms of civilization and of the principal legal systems of the world”. Moreover, it appears that any party can nominate an ad hoc judge. It is possible that as many as seventeen judges may sit on one case. Sounds good, eh?
134 Conqueror
Jun 10th, 2012 - 06:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You write exceptionally well and I really enjoy reading your postings particularly this one. Your appreciation of the issues is better than most if not all (certainly me). Do I want to see Argentina publicly humiliated? Not really. Do I want the UK to put two fingers up to its enemies and duplicitous friends ? Yes I think so. The peace loving world knows the truth of the sacrifices made by the Brits in the 20th century although their memories are short or their custodians dead along with our grandfathers. Do I wish having to witness the UK having to justify itself when the truth is plain to see. Certainly not.
@134 + @135
Jun 10th, 2012 - 07:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“134 Conqueror - You write exceptionally well and I really enjoy reading your postings particularly this one.”
For once, I would like to agree (having frequently criticised Conqueror's more extremist views) - this IS the kind of well-reasoned support we like, so much more effective than abusive expletive ridden rants.
These frigid Islands told us an island story,Drake,Raleigh,Trafalgar..
Jun 10th, 2012 - 08:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0mostly..but not exclusively English..
Empress Thatcher's speech said that Britain was still the nation that had built the Empire and ruled a quarter of the world.The lesson is that Britain has not changed.....in a similar vein about present Islands' problem..that they must leave Argentinians “”in no doubt that they are still the people they were“” thirty years ago.
@134
Jun 10th, 2012 - 08:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0excellent post.
137 max
Jun 10th, 2012 - 08:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ignoring again your random and odd, barely comprehensible, posting and your inability to substantiate or qualify anything you write. Please tell us of Argentinian's legacy. You don't need to go into your novel means of torturer, inventive murder techniques or unique demonstrations of mans inhumanity to man. Please let us know what you are telling us.
78 Malvinero1......... F*** YOU. Stop all funding to this corrupt country called Argentina bring down this corrupt country and all who govern Argentina.
Jun 10th, 2012 - 08:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0www.StopFundingArgentina.org
Anyone reading this outside of Argentina sign THE FORM NOW.
Its winging its way around the world Twitter, Facebook when we have finished with your country you will all be starving as no one will want anything to do with you.
Stop all funding to this corrupt country called Argentina bring down this corrupt country and all who govern Argentina.
www.StopFundingArgentina.org
Anyone reading this outside of Argentina sign THE FORM NOW.
Britishbulldog
Jun 10th, 2012 - 09:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You need to encourage everyone to put a link on all of their emails. This is what I do.
140 Britishpuppy
Jun 10th, 2012 - 09:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We don't need toilet paper Brit, this gift is for you:
http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/505357894/GBP_printed_toilet_paper.html
“India rejects aid from Britain, says it is peanuts”
“India tells Britain: We don't want your aid”
“But officials at DFID, Britain’s Department for International Development, told the Indians that cancelling the programme would cause “grave political embarrassment” to Britain”
:-)))
http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/505357894/GBP_printed_toilet_paper.html
@Marcos, Max, SussieUS etc
Jun 10th, 2012 - 10:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You spend your days spreading your negativity on this website complaining about and insulting the British. You are so full of anger and bitterness. Why live your life like that?
You live in or are from a country with -15- times more land per person than the UK. It contains an embarrassment of space and resources. Why care so much about -Las Malvinas-?
Get over it and get on with your lives.
142 Marcos
Jun 10th, 2012 - 10:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As an idea, why don't you set up a popular petition in Argentina to this effect? Would your Government allow its citizens to do this?
If we work at this together we are likely to succeed in our joint objectives. What do you think?
Sadly, it was a single rich man who was commenting on money that went to the destitute millions in India. Generous no?
Something else for YOU to look at. Why are some of the poorest countries in world contributing more to international poverty than Argentine?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/19/world-giving-index-us-ran_n_1159562.html
Perhaps you can explain.
@Marcos Alejandro
Jun 10th, 2012 - 11:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0yyyyyyyyyyyaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwnnnnnnnnnn -old news, again.
I have some news flashes for you.
1 DATELINE: late creataceous Period- PANGEA BREAKS UP - Southern Africa states it's happy to put some distance from Argentinosaurus, a lumbering long knecked sauropod (direct ancestor to CFK osaurus).
2 - DATELINE 125000 BC : Fire discovered - man now says he can finally get a decent roast beef.
3 - DATELINE 8 th may 1945:VE day German peace treaty ends war in europe - Many Argentines reported crying about Britain refusing to be beaten by another group of facsist thugs.
4 - DATELINE : 20th july 1969 Man walks on moon.
Do you think any of these are out of date enough for you to re-use?
145 shb
Jun 11th, 2012 - 12:27 am - Link - Report abuse 05 - DATELINE : 04 Feb 2012 India tells Britain: We don't want your aid(peanuts)
http://falklandsnews.wordpress.com/2012/06/11/will-she-stayor-will-she-go-go/
Jun 11th, 2012 - 12:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0:-)
bbbbbbbbbbbbbooooooooooorrrrrrrrriiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnnnngggggggggg.
Jun 11th, 2012 - 05:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0Try finding something new.
@146 M A
Jun 11th, 2012 - 09:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0OK, so India seems self sufficent, so how much more does Argentina want? UK overseas aid budget is $16 billion and actually, from an EU fund to which the UK contributes, Argentina gets something like approx $75 million from the UK. Perhaps we should stop this contribution and spend it all on properly written true historical facts books that your country seems to lack. Oh, I've forgotten, hasn't argentine government blocked the import of books! Haaaaa - I've still chuckling over the hilarity of the gag!
SussieUS
Stinky English Pirates... this stuff is just so funny, the last refuge of a scoundrel! When all else fails, resort to insults!
SussieUS
Now that you're in the land of the free, take the opportunity to investigate the real history of the Falklands. Are you brave effort to back up the blind faith you have in the history fed to you in your home land by checking this for yourself.
http://www.britishempire.co.uk/maproom/falkland/gettingitright.pdf
and in the diairies of the great Sir Charles Darwin.
@23 STEVE32UK
Jun 11th, 2012 - 04:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The islanders have demostrated be incompetent for 189 years, the islands are not fully developed...the islanders will remain the same for years to come ....because they are simple minded people.
@135, 136, 138 My thanks for your kind comments. However, I have to make this point. I am at such an age that I feel able to decide for myself when an “opponent” deserves little more than to have a lengthy bayonet forcibly inserted into an appropriate orifice and then screwed a little further. Being suitably appreciative of “modern” technology, I don't have a real problem with “testing” such things as nuclear weapons. Especially when is faced with ignorant, lying thieves who continue to tell the same lies over and over again, even when proved wrong. That tends to piss me off to a considerable extent and I don't really have a problem with telling such assholes what I think of them or what I would urge my country to do to them. I have a simple solution to brainwashed psychotics. Exterminate them. It would cost too much to re-educate them.
Jun 11th, 2012 - 04:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Now, if you look at all the comments from 75 onward, you would see the “M.A.” hasn't had the courage, the ability, the intelligence or the education to respond. The truth, of course, is that “he”'s a gutless tosspot. I'm quite sure that the best special forces in the world would tell you that there is a time to stop pussyfooting and kick the opposition's ass so hard they can't stop it travelling up through their throat and exploding out of their mouths, noses, ears, eyes and the top of their heads. I like that idea so, when I feel it justified, I like to be a full-power ass-kicker. I also like to stamp on slugs. Having served Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II, a proper monarch, for over 40 years, I feel a certain sense of “entitlement”. At the risk of repeating myself, I also like to stamp on slugs.
@150 Shut up, slug!
@ 143 BROKEN TOBER ROAD
Jun 11th, 2012 - 06:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The british started the INSULTING COMPETITION against my country, the argentine leader and the argentine citizens...THRU THIS WEB PAGE..ACCEPT IT, IS A FACT..
Other web pages do not permit the use of offensive language.
I DON'T LIKE THE ENGLISH PEOPLE MAKING BAD COMMENTS ABOUT MY ARGENTINA, PRESIDENTS AND ARGENTINIAN CITIZENS...
SO I INSULTED THEM BACK...
EVERYONE WHO OFFENDS MY COUNTRY WILL FEEL MY STABBING...
About my life I have fun every day enjoying the best food, the steam room, the jaccuzzi and shopping.
C -- 151
Jun 11th, 2012 - 07:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Which grotto do you write all these your all drivels from ?
@Suzzie 150
Jun 11th, 2012 - 07:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0'the islanders are incompetent'
Falkland Islands - GDP Per Person $35,400
Argentina - GDP Per Person $14,700
How incompetent is that?
I think that the fishing and tourism industry of the Falklands is coming along very nicely. And there will be the oil and gas industry too...
An Argentine Falklands War veteran sets fire to a Union flag outside YPF gas and oil company headquarters in Buenos Aires
Jun 11th, 2012 - 07:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.trust.org/alertnet/multimedia/pictures/detail.dot?mediaInode=ed88b3a0-0bf6-4bbd-a4da-92c886158dfa
Another pathetic scum bag
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152 Sussie US
Jun 11th, 2012 - 10:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Typical wet-back rhetoric!!!! Live it up in the States while your country burns! Once again, pathetic!
@156 UKODon't Own Argentina
Jun 11th, 2012 - 11:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Is time for the islanders to keep quiet and try to develop the islands.
189 years and still asking what to do....what to do...
@157 Chicago
You have the opportunity to check about my rights to a dual nationality thru the internet. Several viewers have made the same unacceptable comments....I reside legally in Argentina and in the United States.
I remind to all, these are the most severe economic times affecting my 2 countries and Europe. Economic advisors assisting US President Obama had quit their positions because they cannot find a quick economic recovery.
I have reside in Argentina in worst time. I learned to live with less in bad economic times.
Here in the US, I feel the pain every time a US veteran is found begging for food, I feel the pain of the 26 millons US citizens desperatly seeking employment, I feel the pain reading the increase of personal bankruptcy,
I feel the pain of all US sick citizens without health insurance, I feel the pain of millons of US citizens that have lost their homes. The US is rapidly loosing the middle class and despair is seeing everywhere.
I call friends in Argentina and all have hopes the situation will improve.
158 Sussie US
Jun 12th, 2012 - 12:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0I too have dual citizenship, Canadian and British, legally. However I was born in Canada and no matter how many rights I have to reside, work and pay taxes in the UK I will always be a “visitor” there. Your nationality is where you were born, legally or illegally all others are aliens. I wonder how may Argentine soldiers believed they actually belonged in the Falklands, according to the friends I have there, they didn't receive a very warm welcome!
SussieUS:
Jun 12th, 2012 - 01:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0I too have dual citizenship, and have lived in Argentina (at the time of the Falklands war) and afterwards. At the time of the war the Argentina government openly lied to one and all about that was happening, trying to conceal the ongoing disaster. I later spoke with the Chief of Police of Port Stanley, and he told me that the Argentine soldiers were totally unprepared for the conditions they encountered on the islands, and (probably) as many died from exposure as from enemy (British) action.
I have to believe that the issue of the islands is being raised today for the same reason it was raised 30 years ago: the economy in Argentina is in trouble, and the government is doing everything possible to divert the population. I have friends and family in Argentina, including in the agricultural sector, and they are being screwed by the government, by higher taxes, lack of foreign exchange, the government falsifying economic reports, etc. Eventually, the house of cards will collapse, and being Argentina, the whole game will begin all over again! The only constant in Argentina is that they NEVER learn. They are always are looking for the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, the easy way out, and one and on.
@SussieUS
Jun 12th, 2012 - 05:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0Before making outrageous and laughable claims, you need to make sure you have a clue about what your saying.
You obviously don't.
The Falklands are quite well developed, having had a lot of investment since '82.
They have good governance and have good prospects for growth. They also have higher living standards than the average Argentine citizen.
Meanwhile in Argentina, there is endemic corruption, sky high inflation, large scale poverty and incipient govt instability.
You don't even want to live there yourself.
@155 Steve-Uk
Jun 12th, 2012 - 09:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0Oh the irony, a British flagged ship contracted to work for YPF a nationalised Argentine company! And the Argentines don't like the UK or her dependencies.
I don't usually laugh on these posts but I can't help this,you just couldn't make it up- heh heh heh heh.
Anyone told KFC?
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Jun 12th, 2012 - 04:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@159 CHICAGO @160 KEN CHEAP @161 SH BUlll...SHIT
Jun 12th, 2012 - 04:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0THIS IS A FACT....THE ISLANDERS OCCUPYING THE ISLANDS FOR 189 YEARS WITH A POPULATION OF 3,000 NOT TO MUCH THEY CAN DO: FIRST THE ISLANDERS ARE VERY SLOW MINDED
SECOND 3,000 ISLANDERS IS NOT ENOUGH FOR THEM TO BE PRODUCTIVE AND BECOME INDEPENDENT FROM ARGENTINE PORTS.
THE LATEST COMPLAINT FROM THE ISLANDERS...'BLAMING ARGENTINA FOR IMPOVERISHED THE ISLANDS''....HEY....SUCH CRYING BABIES...
SussieUS:
Jun 12th, 2012 - 06:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your comments are insulting (the Islanders are very slow minded) and I assume you have documented information to back up your ridiculous assertion! The fact that there are only 3000 inhabitants of a small, isolated island is not surprising. It takes a special mentality to live under those conditions. Some people are not happy unless they live in a city of tens of millions; others could not stand the same situation.
I have spoken to people living on Pitcairn Island, where the total population is about 150. They are quite happy with their situation, and have little desire to change. The Falklands would probably seem overpopulated to people on Pitcairn.
Lastly, why in heaven would the Falklands want to affiliate with Argentina, considering the success (or lack thereof) Argentina has been, particularly recently. Argentina has a government based on “coima”, (la mordida), has had revolving door governments and dictators in everything but name in the recent past. The main highways are continuously blockaded by one mob or other, the current government is running out of foreign exchange, and is generally screwing up the economy. Better some of the Argentina provinces join the Falklands than the reverse.
@165 Ken CHEAP
Jun 12th, 2012 - 07:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0THE ARGENTINE FEMALE LEADER KEEPS RECEIVING INSULTS FROM THE PINGUIN NEWS, THE ECONOMIST, THE OBSERVER AND VIEWERS..LIKE YOU....I HAVE SAID MANY TIMES, THE BRITS LIKE TO INSULT BUT NOT BE INSULTED...
I REPEAT MY 2 COUNTRIES ARE IN ECONOMIC CRISIS...THE US 2013 BUDGET still is under review....RETIREES MIGHT NOT GET THEIR SOCIAL SECURITY PAY CHECK...UNLESS FOREIGN LOANS ARE APPROVED TO KEEP THE US AFLOAT...THERE IS DISPAIR...
ABOUT YOUR UK ACCEPT THE FACTS:
uk riots of 8/2011
no sense economic plans
the uk national debt clock crisis
royal family scandals
WHAT CAN YOU DO?.....
164 Sussie US
Jun 12th, 2012 - 10:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0First of all, its Zhivago, put on your glasses dingbat!!!! The Falklanders will be just fine without you, that is a fact. UK and US will be just fine, not all countries have to hit rock-bottom like Argentina before they manage to pull their socks up. Cristina should try to pay heed to the insults flying in her direction, the rest of the world, except for a couple of implanted latinos in the US, are laughing at her antics, the actress hasn't learned the lines.....
sussie us - your insane hatred and racsim are truly awe inspiring.
Jun 13th, 2012 - 09:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You think that the falklanders are stupid, so you should be allowed to steal their land.
Do you have a set of callipers to prove your set of racial theories by measuring the islanders heads so that you can compare them to proper Argentine citizens.
Do you have the gas chambers ready? Or is it a bullet in the back of the head then dumped into the sea by helicopter?
We saw off the last lot you you in 1945, they thought they were the master race as well.
You think that the falklanders are stupid, so you should be allowed to steal their land.
Jun 15th, 2012 - 03:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0Do you have a set of callipers to prove your set of racial theories by measuring the islanders heads so that you can compare them to proper Argentine citizens.
Do you have the gas chambers ready? Or is it a bullet in the back of the head then dumped into the sea by helicopter?
Really? And the military in Argentina FULLY SUPPORTED By the US and uk embassy!
We own uk NOTHING!
GARBAGE country!
@ 165 KEN CHEAP
Jun 15th, 2012 - 04:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0STILL WAITING FOR YOUR ANSWER...
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