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Opinion poll shows support for Cristina Fernandez sliding significantly
The image of Argentine president Cristina Fernandez and the approval of her government have fallen significantly in June compared to last October when she was re-elected for a second four year mandate. Read full article
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Jun 11th, 2012 - 05:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0All the malvinists will start searching for opinion polls on the UK government !!
@1 - brit abroad.
Jun 11th, 2012 - 08:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0You're not wrong about that, the usual suspects will be along spouting their usual drivel.
They don't understand that the British government are actually doing something about our problems, and not burying their heads in the sand hoping that all the problems just go away. They are implementing policies that aren't all that popular, but they aren't doing these things to be popular, they are doing them to sort out the economy. Regardless of whether we agree with their methods or not, Britain has retained its AAA rating.
Argentina, whose government refuses to face reality, is finally realising just how bad things are. CFK and her cronies could only distract the people for so long with their antics regarding the Falklands.
The clock is ticking, CFK, your end is nigh. The sooner the better for the people of Argentina.
Okay then should I break the norm and comment the British government. The only reason I would bash our govenment is because I am a Labour supporter.
Jun 11th, 2012 - 08:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0Now for all you Tory followers.......... you can start ripping into me now. Let's hear it. “Labour caused all the problems we are facing now” crap.
Only joking. You can rip me if you like. Labour have made thier fare share of mistakes. Unlike CFK who has made an unfair share of mistakes. I am not surpirsed by this article one little bit.
@3 - Bombadier Spoon.
Jun 11th, 2012 - 08:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0The difference is that the British Goverment (whoever was in power) would've had to implement cuts. The only real argument between the parties was how much and how quickly those cuts happened.
None of them buried their head in the sand (except maybe for Gordon Brown LOL), they knew that problems don't just magically disappear you have to work at solving them.
Let's face it if the British government had acted like the Argentinian government, we would be completely fecked, and bitching to France about Calais, which the French won from us 400yrs or so ago. Of course, we would accuse the evil French Pirates of stealing Calais, and refuse to acknowledge that the people of Calais existed or even had a right to self-determination. Then we would cry to everyone on the world stage, and say that Calais is closer to London than it is to Paris, so that proves its ours.
You see, any country in the world could use Argentinas methods, but we choose to face reality instead.
Maybe one day in the future Argentina will wake up and face reality, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
Oh dear. The ordinary folk have finally noticed that the empress is wearing no clothes. Oh that isn't a pleasant thought.
Jun 11th, 2012 - 09:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0She is a one trick pony and Argentinians are getting fed up with it even if they support the Malvinista claims. She has spent too much time focussing on this issue and people are starting to understand why.
They know it is a lost cause and it's importance is insignificant compared to what is happening to the economy.mshe should be focussing on that.
Inflation out of control, unemployment rising fast, recession looming, currency worthless, corruption widespread. Response - Bully peaceful islanders 300km away. Her behaviour is shocking, but the Argentinians have got to be the dumbest people on the planet to put up with it!
Jun 11th, 2012 - 09:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0@1 brit abroad (#)
Jun 11th, 2012 - 09:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0Jun 11th, 2012 - 05:54 am
Yes they are too predictable. Of course itwon't register with them that Call Me Dave's popularity is far less significant in this issue than KFC's. Even if the coalition falls apart tomorrow the UK position will not change. There is cross party consensus on this in the UK, only a few independents would sell the islanders out, like George Galloways mob. If KFCs mob goes to the wall in Argentina, the policy might not change but the approach would. There has to be somebody there who can see that this issue is not important compared to the good governance of their own country.
ck has many “good” reasons for her sliding support if you ask her.
Jun 11th, 2012 - 11:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0the most important: the press! clarin and la nacion are only talking bad things about her so called “work”. there is no inflation nor lack of money or corruption. that´s only chatter, idle talk, prattle.
Its only natural that in tough times, like in 2008 before, the government's popularity will slip. But come an election and the posing of alternatives, with the right wing opposition pushing the kind of austerity that has destroyed Greece, I think the Cristinista candidate, hopefully Cristina herself, has the best chance of winning. Before then hopefully the fine tuning will have worked its way through and stabilised the economy and the government, blooded from this latest confrontation, will have further radicalised.
Jun 11th, 2012 - 11:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0We're already seeing, on this thread, what a disaster it would be if Argentina wentdown, as even these polls are already being used to give support to austerity policies that actually aren't working (even the Economist is now criticising Merkel, its front page this week is a ship, already sunk under the water, and a speech bubble saying “Angela can we put on the engines yet”!)
Btw it would be interesting to see as well as her popularity right now, and in October, what was Cristina's popularity when she nationalised YPF - pretty damn high I'd imagine. More to come I hope =)
#5 What isn't a pleasant thought, Cristina being an empress or having no clothes?! I won't comment on the latter out of respect to her as a political leader and liberated woman, but the thought of Cristina the Great as an empress leaves me weak at the knees =)
#7 If the right take over, I think they'll be much more hostile to the Falklanders, much less focused on dialogue and giving peace a chance; as a Brit I'd rather we settled with Cristina in part for pragmatic reasons
Oh pish!! The throbbing tool has entered the room and the duty La Campora Head F*ck trooper is fresh out of training. Sycophantic tosh and lame excuses boil forth.
Jun 11th, 2012 - 11:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0This might be fun.
This circular firing squad of Christia and friends is amusing to watch. Wait till the Peso collapses, then we'll see her popularity drop to what Isabel Peron had at the end. Just as long as this doesn't screw up my ski trip...
Jun 11th, 2012 - 11:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0@9 BK
Jun 11th, 2012 - 11:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0Settled what with Argentina? Maybe £45 million that her country owes the UK.
That would be good, wouldn't it? It may save some people in the UK their jobs that money you know.
Apart from the money Argentina owes us, I can't think of any other outstanding issues between our 2 countries.
However, BK, you need to brace yourself because Cristina's days are numbered. If she doesn't time her escape right she might find herself hanging from one of the lamp posts in the Plaza De Mayo, as the poor downtrodden people revolt against her corrupt and thieving government.
But since you're a self confessed socialist, BK, I'm sure you'll be cheering on the revolutionaries as they string her and other members of her government up.
WAY HEY!!! time for an invasion i think. all aboard the newly aquired ARA Bathtub (standing room only)
Jun 11th, 2012 - 11:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0#12 Yes and as a socialist its my duty to support any rebellion against any government, I was so cheering on the contras in the 80s, and Pinochet when he rebelled against Allende. And of course it was Thatcher and Reagan not socialists who backed bin Laden and the mujahadin against the Afghan government and the Russians; how did that one turn out for the west?
Jun 11th, 2012 - 11:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0Curious stat mentioned today, the consensus is that Arg Gov't will have a $p 50 Billion deficit this year. Without the ability to get U$ from international sources I guess they'll have to print.
Jun 11th, 2012 - 12:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think you'll see hyperinflation sometime soon. Then the panic will begin and the ruinous K dynasty/nightmare will finally be over!
Yet another example of government corruption. She is now using the presidential yet (which of course is funded by tax payers money) to fly her son (King in waiting Maximo) to hospital in Bs As after knee pain. Are there not any hospitals in Santa Cruz?
Jun 11th, 2012 - 12:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We have seen the protests over the past week in Bs As and these have a histrorical habit in Argentina of marking the start of the pverthrowing of a government. This Government has got to get to grips with its finacial situation soon or they will go into recision (already predicted by economists) with huge inflation and a weak currency.
@BK the financial situation is quite simple, you cannot spend more than you earn (through taxation, export duties etc) if you have no way of borrowing from the international market (which Argentina does not) in simple terms spending more than you have is called bankcrupcy, I dont care if your a sociallist or a capatalist economics are economics and in this case and brutally simple.
@9 You forgot to mention that argieland's “constitution” limits the old slag to two terms. That's where the “grand plan” went wrong. It was supposed to be CFK then Nestor, then CFK then Nestor. Unfortunately, she killed him. Probably by letting him see her without clothes! And you're weak at the knees? It's spreading! You're already weak between the ears. Assuming that you have ears where human beings have them.
Jun 11th, 2012 - 12:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@14 Look, I'm not going to respond to your “comment”. I just want to know a simple thing, BK. Do we get fries with you?
@15 Question for all Falkland Islanders: How are your savings? When yankeeboy's predictions come true, and he seems to have a good track record, do you have the money to actually BUY argieland? Could be a solution! Just think what fun it would be to reprint all those maps, erasing “argentina” and replacing those horrible letters with “FALK LAND”. Or would you call it something different?
@14 - BK
Jun 11th, 2012 - 12:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So you will cheering othe crowds as they string up your beloved CFK because she has stolen their money, and mismanaged their country into economic oblivion, then?
Pathetic attempt at deflection from the subject by the way. I give you an F. Must try harder.
16 'Lardarse' Maximo's knee pain is most likely caused by overloading the joints with so much weight.
Jun 11th, 2012 - 01:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Probably had to use the presidential jet cos they don't have big enough seats on the Plummet Airlines planes.
9 British_Kirchnerist (#)
Jun 11th, 2012 - 01:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Jun 11th, 2012 - 11:17 am
Where did you get the idea that there is a right-wing opposition in Argentina? There ain't no such animal. All the opposition parties are left wing, with the exception of Macri's PRO which is centre-right and has no projection in the provinces. The main opposition party is Binner's FAP which is really left-wing and opposes Kretina BECAUSE SHE IS RIGHT WING.
Kretina is in power to make money for herself and her familly, when the time comes she will escape to VEnezuela or Angola to live comfortably on her ill gotten gains. If anyone believes any different, they are idiots.
@19 - Frank.
Jun 11th, 2012 - 01:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Would you use Argentia's national airline? Maximo certainly wouldn't.
I wonder if CFK will use Maximos 'knee' pain as an excuse to send Timidman to the C24 instead of her?
But then again, this trip to the USA is her escape plan. Maybe she'll bring Maximo with her to receive 'treatment' in the USA, and then they'll both leg it with suitcases bursting at the seams full of greenbacks.
Can you imagine any other counties leader leaving their country when things are so dire to address a minor committee at the UN, which has no binding powers, and therefore of no actual use to anyone?
Oh my, poor Argentina, once again humiliated on the world stage by these crooks.
In my opion there is no such thing as left and right wing politics in Argentina Peronism has developed to be neither left or right wing, it has developed to encompases the entire politcal spectrum. this is what makes it higher dangerous as in Argentina (im not sure if you have ever visited or actualy lived here) to challenge the peronists is seen by many as a direct challenge on the country, you only need to look at the way the Peronist government controls the press (typical a facist policy). Let me make this very clear the peronist government is not intrested in helping the poor of Argetnina it is intrested in keeping them continually relient on government handouts so that they can secure a powerfull pool of voters who do not dare vote against peronism for the fear of losing what little they have, ( a fera installed in them by peronists). If you dont believe me look at the relashionship between Facism in Europe (Nazi Germany, Mousallinas (appologise for the spelling) Italy and Francos Spain and Juan Domingo Peron. Peros himself was a supporter of one single strong leader and clamped down on anyone who opposed him (i believe this is the deffintion of facismum). I would suggest you go back a little further in history to truelly understand what Peronisms actually is and how it was and is now a dangerous concept using smoke and mirrors to distract the population while it helps itself to the nations money (it is not a coincidence that the gold reserve was depleted by Juan and Eva Peron).
Jun 11th, 2012 - 02:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0With her approval rating slipping, she will now play the sympathy card over Maximo.
Jun 11th, 2012 - 02:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@1,2,3,4
Jun 11th, 2012 - 02:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The article is not about UK vs Argentina, why reduce yourselves to a one-issue mindset like the Malvinistas?
@War Monkey
Quite right
@BK
I find you adoration of CFK bad taste. At least her supporters in Argentina have reason, correct or otherwise, to follow her as what see does and says impacts on their daily lives. You on the other hand are not even a sycophant (a sycophant seeks advantage through flattery). You are like a little Lord Haw Haw. I have never used derogatory language or insulted anyone on this forum, but today I will break with that tradition: you are an idiot.
@Simon
You state:
“If anyone believes any different, they are idiots.”
I quite agree.
Once again, CFKC should not be leaving the country when there is such civil unrest.
Jun 11th, 2012 - 02:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 020 Simon68
Jun 11th, 2012 - 02:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and here speaks the voice of reason. It's nice to know that not everyone has had the wool pulled over their eyes. This reaction is about 18 months overdue....
@24 BK is a wind-up merchant. He is pulling people's legs to get a reaction.
Jun 11th, 2012 - 02:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@27 Should I add him to my list of verified trolls?
Jun 11th, 2012 - 02:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 026 toooldtodieyoung (#)
Jun 11th, 2012 - 03:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Jun 11th, 2012 - 02:42 pm
I've been voicing this same chant for the past 45 years, at one time I was an active militant in the Radical Party (UCR), but have lived as a disillusioned radical since Alfonsin threw in the towel and am now an independent crying in the wilderness.
@25 What's wrong with CFK leaving the country? Historically, in various places, occasions when the “leader” is out of the country is one of the best times for a revolution or coup d'etat. Of course, there may be neither the intelligence, wit nor will to do this in argieland. Possibly supporting the view that the majority of argies, on certain subjects, have been reduced to the level of Pavlov's dogs. Unless you have hard evidence to the contrary, I suggest that the majority of the argie population have already been brainwashed into the same state as the Volkssturm and the Hitler Jugend in the last months of WW2. Whether the argies are salvageable is open to question. They may have to be viewed as subject to “collateral damage”. Consider how many “ordinary” Germans had to die protecting the nazis! Simon may be able to tell us the percentages of the guilty and the innocent. I would view anybody who does not actively resist CFK and her lackeys to be part of the guilty!
Jun 11th, 2012 - 03:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@28 He is not usually offensive but he does not make much sense. He undermines his own credibility by acting like a love-sick teenager hero-worshipping an imagined idol (the reality is quite different). I actually think it is a deliberate wind-up.
Jun 11th, 2012 - 03:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In general, I do not know how you can break the cycle of nationalism/ repression. Whereas most countries that embraced such policies have evolved (usually by economic development), Argentina seems stuck in a time-warp. The fact that the masses are inculcated from a very early age makes it even harder. Keep the majority poor, dependent, under-educated and isolated. Then add a little false hope and you have a recipe for never-ending power. Unless you turn the economic heat up too high.
30 Conqueror (#) and 31 ElaineB (#)
Jun 11th, 2012 - 04:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I would say that there are probably 32% of the voting population who are independents, the famous 54.11% which theoretically voted for Kretina is really much nearer to 36% the great majority of whom were paid, in some form or another, for their votes.
This becomes difficult, can you blame people who have no income and no hope for taking the money for their votes and for accepting the government hand-outs that keep them alive. I don't feel that it is right to speak of guilty and innocent, my feeling is that the guilty are those that corrupt the indigent population with demagoguery and state money, in other words Kretina and her troupe of sycophants.
Until Argentina outgrows its peronist past it will never progress, it will go from one crisis to the next, and due to having vast potential wealth it will go on having it bi-polar ups and downs, just like Kretina.
@30 She should go and we can hope for the best.
Jun 11th, 2012 - 04:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Good comment in the Independent today, “In a flamboyant gesture akin to the Queen showing up for a village fete steering committee, CFKC is to be the star guest at a meeting next week of mid-ranking UN officials........ the C24 has never before had its door darkened by a national minister of any rank. Let alone a head of state.....” See how she belittles her country?
@32 I guess any decent opposition will have to convince the poor and dependent that they will not be cut adrift.
Thank God we have Cristina!
Jun 11th, 2012 - 04:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Is he in charge of your nuclear weapons?
“David and Samantha Cameron left their eight-year-old daughter alone in a pub”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/david-cameron/9323425/David-Cameron-left-daughter-in-pub.html
@34 - Old news Marcos.
Jun 11th, 2012 - 04:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You must try harder.
By the way, when your beloved CFK has completed robbing you all blind, are you going to cry?
Old news? 11 Jun 2012
Jun 11th, 2012 - 04:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“It’s frightening the Prime Minister of Britain can forget something so important as his own daughter.”
@36 where as your wonderful Christiana is forgetting about the best intrests of t 40 Million Argentines so she can ensure a lasting Kirchiner dynasty in power.
Jun 11th, 2012 - 04:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@34 'Changing The Subject' is not yet an Olympic event, but if it ever becomes one, I think we've found Argentina's entrant!
Jun 11th, 2012 - 04:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@37 I don't think Kretina is interested in a lasting dynasty, I think she'll take her US$370 million and hop it to either a Bolivarian paradise or Angola.
Jun 11th, 2012 - 04:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I wonder why only managemnet and fit was taken into account in this article, beside, it omits that management and fit is oponent to c. f. k's government, anyway i would take into account, but others polls should included too. I usually read different polls, and they all admit that c. f. k's imagen has fallen, but most them also say that she still has a high a positive imagen, and affirm too that there is not any important leader in the oponent politic parties, which is lammentable.
Jun 11th, 2012 - 04:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Im not sure she seems pretty intrested in making sure Maximo will be the next president. She has started to push him to the forefront of the Peronist political rallies, he is also the head of the peronists version of Hitler youth, she has already stated she wont try and chnage the consitutuion so she cant stand for a 3rd term but its clear to me that Maximo will be pushed forward as he sucessor.
Jun 11th, 2012 - 04:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@36 - Marcos
Jun 11th, 2012 - 04:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes old news. This event happened months ago. This is just the media rehashing old news. Probably a slow news day.
However, you didn't answer my question. When your beloved president legs it with all your money, will you cry? Tears of sadness or of anger?
Look, I heard about that story yesterday, but decided not to post it here.
Jun 11th, 2012 - 04:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0However, it is one of the most bizarre stories I have ever heard. First who take their 8 year old to a pub? That in itself would be big story, but to forget your progeny?? That is outright outré. And to top it off... what about the detail entourage which I'm sure a PM would have? They also seem to have screwed up. So that is another big story. So there's three different aspects which make that news story utterly incredulous.
Add to that the FT report the UK may want to wipe out 210 billion pounds off their bonds by twicking the inflation index, the fact the UK sporting authorities played the Apartheid anthem for South Africa in an Olympic tune up event, and now the fact the French are tying them 1-1, and its been a rough week.
@43 -Tobias
Jun 11th, 2012 - 04:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How about commenting on CFKs decline in popularity?
@43 Many families take the 8 year olds to a pub in the UK. Many pubs in the UK are more akin to family resturants and not the bars you are thinking of in Argetnina or the US.
Jun 11th, 2012 - 05:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0With the bonds the difference is the UK can actualy raise bonds in its economy and therefore can make these decisons were as the Argentine economy cannot raise any money from the international credit market. As for national support I was at the Pumas game vs italy in San Juan over the weekend and a stadium of 35,000 was only 1/2 full.
38 JPhillips (#)
Jun 11th, 2012 - 05:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think Tobias/TTT is trying to take the prize from Marcos Alejandro, perhaps its a show of South American brotherhood!!!
41 Engineer lost...
Jun 11th, 2012 - 05:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There is a lot of despair here in the US...the US Debt Clock... click click is A LOUD alarm..15 trillon debt is the largest in US history.....can you suggest what “food stamps” Obama should DO to improve his PRESIDENCY?
39 Simon68
Jun 11th, 2012 - 05:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@47 I honestly do not think Obama will be your next president, I think he has failed to create the jobs that are required to secure a second term and can see Mitt becoming the new president. Therefore if he wants to improve his presidency he needs to create jobs. the easiest method will never be passed in the US which is for US taxiation to rise especially for the extremily rich, however Republicans are against any form of taxiation, the only alternative is to drastical cut public spending which will hurt the poor hard. However, the US still has a strong economoy the dollar is still desirable and inflation is low, the debt clock is importent but the economy will not fail if a concensos is not reached. This is partly the problem of a 2 party system in which it is ahrder to gain a concensus. But this is going a little off topic now, how exacly did my comment in 41 lead to this?
Jun 11th, 2012 - 05:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 046 Simon68
Jun 11th, 2012 - 05:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Are you still pretending to be an Argentinian?
Come on “Simon” tell everybody about your real nationality and names, you write the same hate comments on The Telegraph gordito.
42 LEPRecon
The news emerged last night.
To happen to the child of a security target such as a British PM Cameron is a serious failure of the personal responsibility of himself and the police surrounding him.
50 Marcos Alejandro (#), There is no hate Marcos, only very intense dislike. And so what if I comment in the Telegraph, I like to get my message across the same as you do.
Jun 11th, 2012 - 05:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Now marcos, tell me what the hell has Cameron's daughter got to do with Kretina's popularity going down the tubes. Nothing, verdad?
She's losing popularity because she's making bad mistakes and not admitting them. When the end comes I hope you survive Marcos, and I really hope that my extended familly survives as well because I have a feeling that 2001 will be a poroto beside this on!!!!
51 Simon68
Jun 11th, 2012 - 05:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You have every right to disagree, after all General Videla and friends are in jail thanks to CFK, but to pretend to be an Argentinian and post hate comments all over like you do is kind of weird like yourself.
As a Argetnine tax payer I have just been refused to buy a single dollar to send home in order to cover the cost of my UK bills. This government is going downhill fast, the mood here will explode very soon if this stupid ban on buying dollars is not lifted soon. We are being stopped so high ranking government officials can hoard the dollers for themselves, this is corruption at its very worst.
Jun 11th, 2012 - 05:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Does anyone on here think that The Mad Bitch of Argentina cares anything for anyone except herself, FatBoy and SlimGirl?
Jun 11th, 2012 - 06:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Opinion polls seem to count for nothing in this damned country.
Tisk, Marcos. You need to accept that intelligent Argentinians don't blindly agree with your silly Malvinista dribblings. Tobias thinks the Falklands are British and that your government is a steaming pile of manure. Is he a fake too *gasp*?
Jun 11th, 2012 - 06:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 052 Marcos Alejandro (#)
Jun 11th, 2012 - 06:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No wierder than you commenting from the malvinista point of view. I comment as a political independent, as I have ecvery right to, you post from a malvinista/nacionalista position as you have every right to.
I consider myself a patriot and you a nationalist, so I also dislike you saying I'm not an Agentine. The big difference between us is that you are a fundamentalist and I am middle-of-the-road politically.
56 Simon68
Jun 11th, 2012 - 06:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Still pretending? C'mon “Simon”, you can do better than that.
Marcos why dont you just tell us what it is you accuse Simon of being, and of course present the evidence you have so its not slanderous?
Jun 11th, 2012 - 06:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0To all
Jun 11th, 2012 - 06:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I sent a comment to Ynsere last week about the mental status of UK PM David Cameron but she did not respond me.
Cameron hardly can speak in english...he is in SOCK!
Cameron is SCARE..... suffering confusion..... and THE LAST NEWS ABOUT HIM.. AND his daughter....definitely he needs to seek immediate treatment for depression .....the CHILD PROTECTION AGENCY has to take the child to a secure HOME.
SussieUS please present some evidence because your statement is complete Caca. Is your idea to make up news that dosent exisit to justify your argument (which actualy, im not sure what your argument is). Or are you as I suspect a troll with a crap use of google translate as most of your comment dosnt make sense. Im pretty sure David Cameron is not in a sock.
Jun 11th, 2012 - 06:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 058 And... who are you?
Jun 11th, 2012 - 06:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Im a UK citizen who currently works and lives in San Juan Argentine as a mining engineer and someone who pays Argentine tax. Your turn?
Jun 11th, 2012 - 06:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'am an Argentinean citizen who wants Britain to end colonialism in South America and return Malvinas to Argentina.
Jun 11th, 2012 - 06:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@58
Jun 11th, 2012 - 06:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Many Argentinian posters, when they can offer no constructive opinion, will resort to:-
1. insults.
2. suggest that the poster is not South American.
3. have an attack of verbal diarrhea.
4. post links to articles of no relevance.
5. totally ignore the topic under discussion.
@63 What has So called British colonisalism of the South Atlantic got to do with this story on the sliding popularity of CFK? I havnt made any comments on this topic on Colonisalism only of the inefectivness of the current government and the dangers of Peronism. If you want to rant on about the Falklands please do it on a topic related to the dispute. I would also like the current government is stop using the Falklands as smoke and mirrors for its dangerous economic policies which are about to go into meltdown as they have absoutly no idea what they are doing. The single most importent issue in Argentina is not the return of a wind swept set of rugged islands in the South Atlantic but the need to reduce the inflation of the pesos which is about to cause a massive devaluation and a second economic collapse of the central bank and country.
Jun 11th, 2012 - 06:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 065
Jun 11th, 2012 - 06:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Are you working at Pascua Lama?
@65 Well, MercoP is in their own words “ is seen as an important mechanism for putting information about Malvinas into Latin America”
Jun 11th, 2012 - 06:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.sartma.com/art_4848_12_192_2.html
How do you like el Veladero?
The trouble is that Cristina Fernandez and Argentina are loosing face with most of their South American neighbours and all she has left on the world stage is the Falkland Islands.
Jun 11th, 2012 - 06:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is about time the rest of the South Americans stop fawning over her and give up supporting her stupid demands.
Again if you are intrested in debating the Falklands please do so on a Falklands topic, it is off topic and has no place here where the disucssion is on the CFK government.
Jun 11th, 2012 - 06:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Says who?
Jun 11th, 2012 - 06:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@69 does that go for my question about pascua lama too?
Jun 11th, 2012 - 06:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It looks like it neighbor :-)
Jun 11th, 2012 - 07:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@71 No I am not currently working at Pascua Lama. The majority of my personel workload is in other regions of Argentina.
Jun 11th, 2012 - 07:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Gosh, La Campora must be very rattled by this poll; they have send out their minions in force to change the subject. May I suggest we ignore the attempts at change of subject and post over them regarding the end of CFKC? She is going down and sooner, rather than later.
Jun 11th, 2012 - 07:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Good idea Elaine, to get us back on topic what the Bs As Hearld thinks of the current economic policy
Jun 11th, 2012 - 07:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/102854/the-approaching-storm
debate.
74 ElaineB
Jun 11th, 2012 - 07:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am glad that your father Cameron remembered in which pub he left you.
@ 60 Engineer Lost
Jun 11th, 2012 - 07:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0YOU ARE the crap....having the use of the internet to read about the latest news and not caring about UK PM DAVID CAMERON behavior in THR UK.
Que papelon!....Que miedoso que sos ... no aceptas la verdad que Cameron ha perdido su mente ....y ahora que vas a decir? ...
When the Peso does collapse that's when the blame game will take over. It will be everyone else's fault. CFK and Co will blame the EU, US World Bank for all their woes instead of actually looking in the mirror to look at the complete economical ineptness that they possess.
Jun 11th, 2012 - 07:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well thank you very much but is that not why the internet is such a good thing, spreading different opions of the news around the world in order to stimulate healthy debate? Im afraid I just done rate the PM leaving his daughter in a pub as high on my agenda as the disatrous economic policie of the CKF government. after all his actions affected a relativily minor number of people including himself, his wife and his daughter and not the rest of the UK. If the Argentine economoy collapse it will effect 40 million. You are rather odd priorties if you believe the story about the PM is as importent but each to their own.
Jun 11th, 2012 - 07:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Maximo's “leg operation” is just a smokescreen. The leathery old harpy is having his cavities stuffed with dollars and diamonds as we speak, in case they have to make a quick getaway and get past any Customs officials.
Jun 11th, 2012 - 07:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh dear SussieUS.
Jun 11th, 2012 - 07:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If life is so good in Argentina, why are you living in the US, a country you obviously hate and not back in your homeland that can do no wrong ?
79 EnginnerAbroad
Jun 11th, 2012 - 07:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I wouldn't worry about sussieUS. she has three nationalities you know? and she's got two passports!!!! and she thinks that everyone in the UK is deformed!! because David Cameron's mum had a gimpy leg or something.... She “googled” it apprently and based all her judgements of the UK on it.
I thought when I first crossed swords with her that I was just being fly paper for weirdo's, but now I see she is like that with everyone I can breathe a sigh of relief.
You are right about her priorities being “rather odd if you believe the story about the PM is as importent” I think she is either a troll or just messed up.
80 Britninja
I love it!! “The leathery old harpy” Classic!! nuff respec!!!
Thank god its not just me attracting the wierdos. MercoPress have just posted a new topic on the Falklands so i think they are all on their waiting under the bridge for the bill goats gruff to come along rather than hijacking this topic.
Jun 11th, 2012 - 07:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@57 Marcos Alejandro (#)
Jun 11th, 2012 - 08:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Jun 11th, 2012 - 06:10 pm
Point is Marcos that Argentina will one day wake up and find itself at the bottom of a very deep hole that has been dug by extremists and fundamentalists. Only those in the middle of the road with a progressive forward thinking attitude will be able to dig you out.
56 Simon68
Jun 11th, 2012 - 08:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0C'mom Simon68. well I waited long enough.
Like I said before you have every right to disagree but to pretend to be an Argentinian is kind of weird....45 years in the country and you didn't learn how to spell one of the most popular food/snack on the Pampas?
Repeat after me CH O R I P A N, got it? good boy!
Since you are not telling I will...
Telegraph
“simon68”
3 months ago
Silvio,
”Firstly I must agree with your very well expressed sentiments.
I am a Brit resident in Argentina for the past 45 years and really love both the country and the wonderful people who live here.
The famous majority of 54% that Ms. Fernandez gained in hte last elections is not quite so true, almost 23% (6.5 m) of the registered voters did not vote making her real majority something in the order of 41%”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/argentina/9111201/Hit-Argentina-where-it-hurts-in-the-wallet.html#comment-452429072
@79 Engineer lost
Jun 11th, 2012 - 08:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0ACCEPT THE FACT, UK PM CAMERON HAS MENTAL ISSUES THAT IS IMPEARING HIS ABILITY TO IMPROVE THE ECONOMY IN THE UK..
I understand that finding the news in the internet disturbs you...is socking seeing a father not remembering where he left his CHILD..
ARGENTINA has survived worst time...DON'T LIKE, SO LEAVE.
YOU have the choice to move to another place overseas where YOU CAN FIND WELL PAID ENGINEERING OPEN positions.
My husband and I worked on engineering projects all around the world for years...US tax free up to the first $70,000
SO, STOP IT!
Simon Furry boy, wheeeere are youuuu?
Jun 11th, 2012 - 08:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Choripan indigestion?
@86 Oh dear SussieUS.
Jun 11th, 2012 - 08:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If life is so good in Argentina, why are you living in the US, a country you obviously hate and not back in your homeland that can do no wrong ?
@85 Marcos Alejandro (#)
Jun 11th, 2012 - 08:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Jun 11th, 2012 - 08:08 pm
I still don't see your point. I have a very good friend who was born in India but has lived in the UK for many years and considers himself British. What is your point? If Simon is who you say he is then he has lived in Argentina for 45 years. If he agreed with your every word would you approve of him?
I know of many Brits resicent in Argentina who support the Malvinista viewpoint, do you approve of them? If so why? I don't know Simon but I will stick my neck out and say that I reckon he married locally and that his children are Argentine born. are they worth that much less because of their ancestry? Of course not. You want to expose his birth nation simply because he disagrees with you.
89 Furry-Fat-Feck
Jun 11th, 2012 - 08:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0One question for you,
My last comment for Simon68 @57 was answered for you @84
And Simon68 called me a “fundamentalist”@56 and you @84
I am talking to the same liar Brit?
@85 Marcos
Jun 11th, 2012 - 08:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As Furry said what is your point? I was born in South Africa with Scottish parents but have lived most of life in the UK and consider myself British.
Simon seems to deeply care far more about Argentina than you - I suggest you relocate how about the Falkland Islands? i'm sure you would be made to feel welcome.
@90 Marcos
Jun 11th, 2012 - 08:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So why do you think support for Cristina Fernandez sliding significantly ?
originally posted by SussieUS
Jun 11th, 2012 - 08:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0YOU ARE the crap
Cameron hardly can speak in english...he is in SOCK!
My husband and I worked on engineering projects all around the world for years...US tax free up to the first $70,000
u mad!
as malvino would say
Jun 11th, 2012 - 08:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0AAAHHHHHHSHEEEEEESSSSSS FINNNNISHHHHEDDDD
and finnished she is,
@90 Marcos Alejandro (#)
Jun 11th, 2012 - 09:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Jun 11th, 2012 - 08:33 pm
Firstly I am not Simon. If you believe me or not is irrelevant.
Secondly I did not call you an extremist fundamentalist in post 84. Stop putting words into my post. In fact by the very nature of your reply in post 90 you appear to consider yourself an extremist fundamentalist by accociation.
Thirdly you said “My last comment for Simon68 @57 was answered for you @84 ”
Post 84 was mine and it says:
“Point is Marcos that Argentina will one day wake up and find itself at the bottom of a very deep hole that has been dug by extremists and fundamentalists. Only those in the middle of the road with a progressive forward thinking attitude will be able to dig you out.”
Are you mind f*cking again or are you confused because you think that Simon and I are one and the same person?. The problem with a web of lies is that sooner or later you lose track of them and get trapped by them.
I will ask again.
Please explain why Simon's birth nation is a major issue to you. Would you approve of him, British or not, if he agreed with you?
Al-Qaeda
Jun 11th, 2012 - 09:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Is on the move,
Destabilised and indoctrinated countries are prime targets,
We say,
Be carefull
How can “sussie” survive in the USA when she cannot speak or understand English....or American?
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Jun 11th, 2012 - 10:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 056 Simon68
“The big difference between us is that you are a FUNDAMENTALIST and I am MIDDLE-OF-THE-ROAD politically”
84 Furry-Fat-Feck
“has been dug by extremists and FUNDAMENTALISTS. Only those in the MIDDLE OF THE ROAD with a progressive forward thinking”
Anything else Simon?
(99) Marcos
Jun 11th, 2012 - 10:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I was look at the link you post and found this one:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/9319856/We-must-stop-underwriting-loans-to-Argentina.html#comment-554751366
So you live in England you traitor.
Worst than English and Keplers.
Mama's boy Max-sized Maximo also has diverticulitis. He will have to change his diet of cream buns now.
Jun 11th, 2012 - 10:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Though why CFKC abandoned her post at such a difficult time for Argentina is beyond reason. Diverticulitis is a cronic condition brought on by bad diet and usually in overweight people. Is she going to cancel all engagements everytime he gets the trots?
@101 To be fair, Maximo getting the trots could submerge a small town... I guess it could qualify as a national emergency.
Jun 11th, 2012 - 10:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@99 Marcos Alejandro (#)
Jun 11th, 2012 - 11:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Jun 11th, 2012 - 10:25 pm
Do you regard yourself as a extremist fundamentalist? Wether I think it or not (in truth I have no idea either way) you can read what I said over and over again but not once did I call YOU an extremist fundamentalist. You just read what you wanted to see. Simon did. But my poor deluded paranoid friend, I am not Simon.
@97 Clide Cloudy...
Jun 11th, 2012 - 11:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The one that cannot speak the 2, 500 english words is Stone Face David Cameron....look at his tight lips....He is in sock and cannot remember where his child is....BIG NEWS FROM THE UK....
@100 DаnyBerger (#)
Jun 11th, 2012 - 11:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Jun 11th, 2012 - 10:35 pm
Well spotted Dany.
So Marcos. You have lived in my country for what? 30 years but you think you are better qualified to speak for Argentina than Simon who has lived in Argentina for 45 years, raised an Argentinian family and made his life there?
This is typical Malvinista behaviour so I don't know why I feel surprised but I have to wonder how many of you actually live in Argentina?
100 DаnyBerger
Jun 11th, 2012 - 11:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Jajajaja I guess Simon68 aka Furry-Fat-Feck is so furious with me that he posted in The Telegraph a comment under my name an hour ago...he forgot one thing, that article is months old and he did it soon after he was confronted with the truth by me.
Siiiimoncitoooo wheeere are you?
(106) Marcos Britanico
Jun 11th, 2012 - 11:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am not sure.
Maybe you are Simon loving in England too.
Maybe you posted under his name.
Maybe you are pirate spy.
Marcos I think we're all FUNDAMENTALLY starting to wish that you'd lie down in the MIDDLE OF THE ROAD.
Jun 12th, 2012 - 12:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0Correction from my post@106, that article was 2 days old, my fake post 1 hour old, nice try.
Jun 12th, 2012 - 12:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0105/107 You don't need to fake poor English, the real Dany Berger writes better English than all the Brits in here combined!
Simooon, donde estas loco?
@109 You really have lost the plot over this negative poll.
Jun 12th, 2012 - 12:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0@110
Jun 12th, 2012 - 12:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0Is your post @101 related to such a poll?
@ 109 Marcos
Jun 12th, 2012 - 12:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0“the real Dany Berger writes better English than all the Brits in here combined!”
Err...his english is not so bad, but it is full of mistakes. Just check some old posts:
http://en.mercopress.com/2012/04/28/spain-faces-a-crisis-of-huge-proportion-with-terrible-figures
@111 Ah, is that why you are so upset? Mama's boy Max-sized Max has a poorly tummy?
Jun 12th, 2012 - 01:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0Actually, it is very relevent. CFKC is not popular and not up to the job. When she keeps bunking off work on the flimsiest of excuses it just proves how incompetent she is. What was it last time? Flu? For 2 days? That is not possible. Does she ever do a whole week of work?
80 Britninja (#) The fat worthless slob has purchased the Llao Llao Hotel and another further down the hill. I just wonder how the fat slob justifies the origin of funds.
Jun 12th, 2012 - 02:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.llaollao.com/esp/
@113 Upset? You must be talking about yourself, did you cry at the pub?
Jun 12th, 2012 - 02:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0The world is talking today about Mr Cameron embarrasment, what a wonderful leader you have, from Raisa the horse scandal, Liam Fox scandal, leaving his 8-year-old daughter Nancy in a pub, what's next?
@114 Has he actually worked a day in his life, other than for Mama?
Jun 12th, 2012 - 03:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0Marcos you are not only a gimp, but a stupid one! Your regular posts are 99.9% irrelevant to the stories, you have a warped basic understanding of nearly everything....and yet people keep responding to your posts!!!
Jun 12th, 2012 - 04:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0PEOPLE STOP entertaining these RG idiots! You could get a better conversation from an inbred simian!!
86 SussieUS
Jun 12th, 2012 - 06:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0aaawwww bless your little heart!!! I see you are still as deranged as ever, not that there is anything wrong with being “with the fairies” but you have to be at peace with it, a little acceptance goes a long way you know?
What is this hate thing you've got going on with David Cameron? I think that he is a kn*b of the highest order but as to him having “Mental issues”??? Old news love, I'm sorry to say, we already knew that, we just didn't tell you.... ( try and keep up with the rest of the class ) How can you tell? He's a conservative Prime Minister.
So what is the deal with “Socking”?? would you perhaps mean “Shocking?”
and a word to Marcos Alejandro if he's listening, YES we knew he is corrupt as well, as are all MP's are. Just like KFC. Remember power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
see she does look tired :) ha
Jun 12th, 2012 - 06:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0@ 43 Truth_Telling_Troll
Jun 13th, 2012 - 06:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0“First who take their 8 year old to a pub?”
Proof that you have never been in Argentina where parents routinely take their 2-3-4 year old children to restaurants and bars a 1 in the morning.
116 ElaineB (#) Highly unlikely, and if his school record is anything like his sister's he has pure manure between his ears. The only thing he seems to be good at (or maybe it is his coach coaching him) is stealing. An inherited family problem.
Jun 14th, 2012 - 04:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0#121 How do you know his sisters school record (and not his)?
Jun 14th, 2012 - 09:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0#104
Jun 14th, 2012 - 04:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My post at #97 still stands. ”He is in sock ?
in the words of malvinarse
Jun 14th, 2012 - 10:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0AAAAAAHHHHHHAAAAAAAA
Argentina is finished!
I have penis up bum
AAAAAHHHHHHHAAAAAA
122 British_Kirchnerist:. Go and check at the Colegio Lasalle on calle Malaver in Florida; they have the records there; what school the fat slob went to I don't know.
Jun 15th, 2012 - 02:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0Is that online or are you saying I actually have to turn up, or otherwise trust you; a bit hard, as I'm not Floridan_Kirchnerist! Could it be you're just making things up?
Jun 15th, 2012 - 11:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0126 British_Kirchnerist. If you live in Argentina then you know exactly where the school is, and yes turn up and ask for the records. My suspicion is that you don't even live in this country.
Jun 15th, 2012 - 04:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So thats Florida, Argentina not Florida, USA, and I didn't even notice the difference! And some people still think I'm not British...
Jun 15th, 2012 - 07:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.ilasalle.com.ar/Como-llegar.html
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