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UK calls on countries that prize democracy and human rights to respect Falklands’ referendum result
Foreign Office minister Jeremy Browne pledged UK respect for the results of the Falkland Islands referendum to be held next year, and called on all governments who prize democracy and human rights to do likewise. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesI hear Argentina says that “ the guest community makes referandum..””
Jun 12th, 2012 - 08:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This should be fun. After all, argieland is supposed to be a democracy and prize human rights. Supposedly, the same for all the other countries of S. America.
Jun 12th, 2012 - 08:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Let's watch CFK get out of that!
Yes... let´s ask the invaders if they want to maintain the invasion...
Jun 12th, 2012 - 08:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@3 Ah yes, the “invaders” - who've been peacefully farming the land for over 180 years (take careful note that >180 years goes back before the mystical date of 1833)
Jun 12th, 2012 - 08:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0as mentioned on the other blogg,
Jun 12th, 2012 - 09:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0all goverments should accept the results,
those who show that they have no regard or respect for democracy, should be removed from the UN .
alas, this will never happen,
Islas - the invaders were taught a lesson not to forget in 1982. The ones still breathing were sent back to Argentina and those that fell were buried with due respect by the British.
Jun 12th, 2012 - 09:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Max & Islas Malvinas
Jun 12th, 2012 - 09:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In 1833 none of the 29 civilians were expelled, see for yourself...
http://falklandshistory.org/sites/default/files/false-falklands-history.pdf
or in Spanish if you prefer...
http://falklandshistory.org/sites/default/files/false-falklands-history.pdf
Well
Jun 12th, 2012 - 09:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Apparently
In 1820 they had a government, , buses and trains , airports , fishing industry, farming ,
Roads, just about everything you could imagine , on an argentine island, until the nasty British pirates came along, and destroyed everything ,
Tut tut tut
.[well]
thats what maxy and islas belives .
This shows the british impotence to the growing and firm argentine claim...
Jun 12th, 2012 - 09:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0make all referendums you want, self determination is not applied in malvinas UN resolution 2065 says there is only 2 parties on this conflict Argentina and the UK, not islanders
and the UK says no
Jun 12th, 2012 - 09:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0its british,
comprendy
If Argentina ever attacks the Falklands again,we will not be so magnanimous in victory, we will destroy your infrastructure -power stations ,ports,water supply,communications etc.
Jun 12th, 2012 - 09:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0With all the bullshit we are getting now,and lack of humility ,we should have done it in 1982.
UK calls on countries that prize democracy and human rights to respect Falklands’ referendum result
Jun 12th, 2012 - 09:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0AHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAH
DOwn with the brits clowns!!
If Argentina ever attacks the Falklands again,we will not be so magnanimous in victory, we will destroy your infrastructure -power stations ,ports,water supply,communications etc.
With all the bullshit we are getting now,and lack of humility ,we should have done it in 1982.
AHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAA
uk is FINISHED!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbLfje8_jgI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbLfje8_jgI
This is the bomb uk will get..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbLfje8_jgI
AHAHHAHAHAHA
poor deluded ex empire.
ex empire syndrome!
@9 - as usual - half a story.
Jun 12th, 2012 - 10:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0UN Resolution 2065 asserts that the Falklands/Malvinas constitute a colony and calls on Britain and Argentina to negotiate taking account of Islanders' interests.
Note the last bit.
Well, here they are again. The usual crock of cock from the Malvinistas. “If we ever attacks again”... You need to think hard when you put such comments up for the World to see, as I have noted before, on here. Those are the true colours of some, aren't they? But you won't, you can't afford to and you don't have the materiel.
Jun 12th, 2012 - 10:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0On the other hand, as RGland upholds the right to self-determination, they must stand by their word. As regards the “Guest community” - have you actually been to the Islands? And met the people? I didn't think so. Guests of whom? Unlike the RG posters here, none of us are paid by the British Government to be here, it's a choice. And, rest assured, you will find that we wish to remain British.
That is not hot air, as is usually the case of the malvinistas on here, it is a fact waiting to be proved.
Will RGland back off once the referendum is counted? 'Course not, they're too bloody stupid to accept a real fact.
@12
Jun 12th, 2012 - 10:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Our submarines already have the targets picked, we can send missiles 8000 miles from Scotland they dont have to leave port.Argentina would be finished in ten minutes.
@12 Malvinero1 (#) You quote one man :D lol why does everyone else invest in the UK ?
Jun 12th, 2012 - 10:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why are China doing a major trade deal with London, why are the giving London the largest offshore responsibility for their currency ?
http://news.sky.com/home/business/article/16149945
Why is the UK tech industry growing rapidly ?
http://news.sky.com/home/business/article/16149945
Why is our space industry growing ? I quote 'Booming'.
http://news.sky.com/home/business/article/16149945
Oh, its all happening because the UK has the 5 most valuable currency in the world (ahead of the Euro and US Dollar ), the biggest financial centre, huge investment opportunities (that many are making the most of), and is off course 'FINISHED'.
If the UK is finished, id hate to know what you would call the state of Argentina....
http://news.sky.com/home/business/article/16149945
http://news.sky.com/home/business/article/16149945
http://news.sky.com/home/business/article/16149945
http://news.sky.com/home/business/article/16149945
Oh, and Christina's 'Malvinas question' seems to be losing affect, looks like people are realising, they're are more important things going on, and its all just a distraction of hers.
http://news.sky.com/home/business/article/16149945
Oh my......
@12 Malv, repeating lies and half truths continuously in every thread will not make them true.
Jun 12th, 2012 - 10:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Another great lesson for Argentina by the British government on how to manage international politics.
As for those suggesting an invaded force still living on the islands, well that applies to Argentina given Europeans of which most of you descend from wiped out the native population. The only difference being the British didn't murder the local population, heck they didn't even evict the population.
And resolution 2065 is dead because you violated it with an illegal invasion! Why you'd want to mention a resolution you violated is beyond me......
@ 11 or at least we should
Jun 12th, 2012 - 10:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 12 ha you call them sources ha i call them out of date !
12 Malvinero1
Jun 12th, 2012 - 10:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh malvi-baby, malvi-baby!!! and then you wonder why the Falkland Islanders don't want to be part of Argentina. Your post speaks volumes to all of us.... Shame on you Malvi-baby!!!!!!
Shame on you Malvi-baby!!!!!!
like it or not you are living in a invaded soil, get back to london brits... you will be always far away from good hospitals and good education, you are just in the wrong place.
Jun 12th, 2012 - 10:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Islas Malvinas will not be another Chagos.
You expelled them after living there for 150 years, so why should we stop triying to expell you after 150 years living there .... ???
( remember count started again in 1982, so now you have only 30 years living there with no argie presence)
you lost and went home Argentina. be a good sport and stay there
Jun 12th, 2012 - 10:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@20 is Argentina on invaded soil? the natives who owned the land before you? following your logic you should hand there land back to them
as for the FALKLANDS there was no native population till France and then UK started colonization and even that point could be argued.
The islander presently have became natives of the island by many definitions. over the past 150 some 6-7-8 generations have passed. people are born, raised and die on the islands. what ever claim that Argentina had died after the first generation began to populate the islands
Argentina had them illegally for 3 years that point could also be argued.
no matter any (apparent) crimes of the past the present generation of islanders cant be held responsible.
they have the right to self determine there own future just like you and i do
sorry to disappoint you
'@20
Jun 12th, 2012 - 10:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If we are living on invaded soil, what about the indigenous population slaughtered by your Spanish forefathers?
Argentina didnt exist in 1765.
@9 falklandshistory.org/sites/default/files/false-falklands-history.pdf
Jun 12th, 2012 - 11:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As this shows, Argentina did not provide the true facts to the UN before 2065 was formulated.
As 2065 was based on innacuraccies, it istherefore irrelevant.
2065 called for peaceful negotiation, which the UK complied with. Again the Argentines lied saying they would not invade the Islands. They did in 1982 therefore breaking 2065, and refused to comply with SC res 502.
If Argentina choses to ignore UN resolutions/judgements then why should the UK take any notice of them? Especially when they are defunct. Argentina's big problems are:
1/-It refuses to acknowledge the Islanders, but they still live in the Falkland Islands, whether they are ignored or not.
2/-It is buried in the past and not in the present. Argentina does not live in 2012, it lives in the past( ie 1833, 1965), which whether you like it or not has long gone.
The year for the benefit of Argentina which cannot keep up=2012.
@ 20 Hipolyte
Jun 12th, 2012 - 11:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yet another Argentinian who thinks he knows everything about the Falklands yet takes no trouble at all to check his facts are correct.
You are spouting rubbish, Hipolyte. To avoid making a fool of yourself again, please do some proper research before hitting that keyboard. Or, easier still, ask us if what you have heard is true.
@20
Jun 12th, 2012 - 11:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Islas Malvinas will not be another Chagos.”
Except for getting the name of the Falklands wrong that's true, it won't be like what happened to the Chagos Islands, bad news for you I'm afraid.
:-)
http://falklandsnews.wordpress.com/2012/06/13/argentina-reacts-to-the-falklands-referendum/
Jun 13th, 2012 - 12:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0Whinging already :-)
This Browne is quite pathetic. Did he think we are stupid? He talk “innocently” of “people” referring to the inhabitants of the Falklands, but according to British law, we have:
Jun 13th, 2012 - 12:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0Inhabitants of Malvinas = British
Inhabitants of Great Britain = British
In conclusion, we have not a people distinct from Britain, there is another “people”, so a referendum course has no value. And why is that? Because the original population of the islands, was expelled by force in 1833. They give and give over the matter, but better comply with all UN resolutions relating to the Malvinas. You can not occupy a territory of another and then to “vote” in the transplanted population.
These nasty Argentinian trolls will feel real pain when their economy collapses this year. They'll not starve, but still feel some deserved pain for supporting the mad cow they have as their president. This should be great fun!
Jun 13th, 2012 - 01:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0@27: so there are no Welsh people, Scottish, English or Cornish either? Get a grip and learn the difference between a politically differentiated group and a culturally differentiated group. Jeez, it's like dealing with ret...s...
Jun 13th, 2012 - 01:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0José Malvinero @ 27 - Your post is one of the lamest I've ever read. Would you try and do better, please?
Jun 13th, 2012 - 02:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0AHAHAHAHAHAHA
Jun 13th, 2012 - 02:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0The brits are losing as usual!
At the meeting for the c-24,I will be magnanimous.I will give free paper tissue to the MAlvionenses,”imploring the commmittee,NOT TO ADOPT the RESOLUTION has DRAFTED!! AAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAH
These nasty Argentinian trolls will feel real pain when their economy collapses this year. They'll not starve, but still feel some deserved pain for supporting the mad cow they have as their president. This should be great fun!
Who cares,unemployed hooligan!
We will remove you colonial pirates from our land. I am looking at the photos of Lookout Lodge it will make good family home for me. You really thing we care about what people of Malvinas think? I will be laugh to see how many vote for us. Your women know we are more man that they are!
Jun 13th, 2012 - 03:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0You oil belongs to Argentina. Your ships belong to Argentina. Your sheep belong to Argentina. Your fish belong to Argentina. Your people belong to England, go home! Or be removed!
I burn your flag bitches. Everyone I know burns your flag! This is what we live for!
Filippo, bring it on!!! lets be fair if you want to remove the islanders you will have another war on your hands!
Jun 13th, 2012 - 03:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0Now if you're so tough....where are you???? Come on!!! No one wants to see the RG's humiliated any further by getting their simian arses kicked again. Like back in the 1980's, it'll be like watching a UFC fighter versus a one armed midget!!!
burning flags.....hehehe.......what a bunch of sad little children!
I am quoting a comment that I read on an Argentine newspapre (online) a few minutes ago “a referenwhaaat?, the falklands are british and even it it was not like that, with the current Argentine economy , it is like asking someone who lives in Olivos if he would like to move to the Villa”
Jun 13th, 2012 - 05:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0Filippo do you have an Argentine Union flag factory or do you import the flags to burn make sure you export somethig of equal value and dont pay using dollars or cfk will get upset.
Jun 13th, 2012 - 06:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0@27
Jun 13th, 2012 - 06:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0“the original population of the islands were expelled in 1833”
Are you referring to:
1) the original French population from Port Louis that left in 1766
2) the original British population from Port Egmont that left in 1776
3) the original Spanish population that left in 1811
4) the original Vernet settlement that arrived in 1828 but was encouraged to stay
5) the original illegal Mestevier penal colony, that arrived in October 1832, murdered Mestevier and raped his wife in front of his children, and under Pinedo were forced to leave 3 months later when HMS Clio arrived.
Which original population were expelled by the British in 1833?
losing as usual?
Jun 13th, 2012 - 06:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0UK don't breed losers as seen in most major conflicts generally
Argentina have experiences of this in 1833 (apparently) and 1982 (definitely) plus consequently diplomatically seeing as the Falklands are still under UK control. ich nay good guys win bad guys lose and always Britain prevails!
@27
Jun 13th, 2012 - 06:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0And the “original” population of Argentina was?
So I if I agreed with you, the election of Cristina Kirchner is null and void as it was carried out by a transplanted population, not the original settlers.
The election of Barack Obama is null and void as it was carried out by a transplanted population.
However, the original settlers in the Falklands (French and British) had left by 1776, the transplanted Spanish settlers had left by 1811, the transplanted Vernet community was never removed, which basically means the current referendum in the FIs (by your criteria) is more valid than either the Argentine or US Presidential elections.
Thanks for the endorsement.
I thought the chappy in 1833 asked the British Permission to set up an encampment. Sounds to me like he understood it was British.
Jun 13th, 2012 - 06:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0jajajaja RG's are finished, lost a war with UK and are economically finished. jajajajajaja RG Colonials
As a military man Filippo if I see you in the Falkland islands you'll have the pleasure of meeting my bayonet.
Jun 13th, 2012 - 07:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0You can burn flags all day, it just proves what animals you are and also how pathetic you are. It's always 3rd world countries that are failures that do that, have you ever noticed that? You don't see that in the UK, if you upset us, we pack our equipment up and come to meet you in person for your annihilation because we are men not cowards.
The British are truly polar opposites of the Argentinians. The British have a very long history of success and victory and all Argentina has is failure. Argentina's only success has been in slaughtering the natives that lived on the island.
Xect, No need for the bayonet! A couple of water ballons would have the desired effect
Jun 13th, 2012 - 07:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0@ 31 Malvinero1 QUOTE“You can not occupy a territory of another and then to “vote” in the transplanted population”.
Jun 13th, 2012 - 07:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0We have'nt done that. Thats more like what Spain did in 1771 and what tried the Uinted Provinces tried to do in 1833.
Get your facts straight. Being as we were there before you, we have the high ground on this one........
@ hipolyte QUOTE “Islas Malvinas will not be another Chagos.
You expelled them after living there for 150 years, so why should we stop triying to expell you after 150 years living there .... ???”
So to you 2 wrongs make a right? Your argument is - 30 odd years ago Britain evicted some people on some islands so we have the right to do the same? Lame and morally bankrupt argument.
If you want to try and keep on expelling the Falkalnders forever- perhaps the best way of dealing with you is to abate the threat once and for all. If you try again, we should make the conflict so horrendous for you that you won't want to do it again.
I believe what fisher said was true “moderation in war is imbelcility”. We should smash your armed forces and wreck your nations economy and infrastructure. Burn your cities to the ground and keep on destroying until you unconditionally surrender.
We could do it if we wanted to, in less than 2 hours we could turn your nation into a radioactive wasteland. Think about that one. One day you may face a UK govt that isn't as spineless as the current lot................
@20 So let me get this straight. You're saying that 2 months of brutal military occupation in 1982 gives Argentina a right to the islands????!!! I mean really???!!! This truly is entertainment at its best!
Jun 13th, 2012 - 08:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0Good call by the Falklands Government to stage a fresh referendum next year to show the world how the people there want to maintain their links with Britain and have no interest in being taken over by the Argentines.
Jun 13th, 2012 - 10:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0Even recent Falklands migrants like the Chileans living there have made it very clear that Falklanders deserve their right of self-determination.
As the for foolish comments from the Malvinistas and supporters of CFK like malvinero1, hypolyte, max and islas malvinas....nothing changes with you guys. Facts mean nothing to you at all.....time, and time again, you guys continue to talk lies, lies and lies. It's little wonder why Argentina has serious economic and social problems when fools like yourselves run that country. Some day, you fools or your descendants may need to swallow your pride and learn a few lessons from your smarter neighbour, Chile.....the ideas of CFK and the Peronistas are taking you no where but the nearest rubbish tip.
By the way, Malvo, Max, Marcos, etc, when are you guys returning back to Europe.....following your retarded logic, you have no right living in Argentina, and should hand the land back to the natives.
As to the Falklanders, all the best with your Liberation Day activities and best wishes to your young folk who attend the UN meeting in New York. Although that committee is not exactly objective, to put it mildly, with its heavy third world bias (ie. Argentina should have many friends there as its heading that way economically), I feel sure that thse young people, like their elders, will represent the Falkland Islands community very well.
Cheers from Downunder.
UK don't breed losers as seen in most major conflicts generally
Jun 13th, 2012 - 10:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina have experiences of this in 1833 (apparently) and 1982 (definitely) plus consequently diplomatically seeing as the Falklands are still under UK control. ich nay good guys win bad guys lose and always Britain prevails!
Yeahh?? And what uk won in 1833 and 1982? Are you living better has a result of MAlvinas? NOOOOOO And never will.
uk LOST ARGENTINA,NEver could conquer.....
Poor deluded ex empire
uk lost in many places,lately IRAK and Aghfanistan...
What idiots these brits,,,,,
Argentina will get MAlvinas without a shot...
Kebab party in a local “Bailanta” at Port Stanley I understand now why these people are insulting and swearing all the time. They look pretty sad and depressed.
Jun 13th, 2012 - 10:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2012/3/19/1332178027145/Port-Stanley-007.jpg
I just wonder what kind of musik are they listening? Hip hop or Cueca?
Bloody ‘ell pretty scary I should say.
Malviner - Keep hoping and dreaming why yo sit in a cold room with no heating and no dollars. Please tell us what will compel us to give you these Islands :-)
Jun 13th, 2012 - 11:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0I could do with a laugh.
@45
Jun 13th, 2012 - 11:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0The government of Argentina signed the 'Convention of Settlement' treaty, a legally binding document, in 1850 with Great Britain. The Argentine government then produced maps in the 1870s and 1880s that either omitted the Falkland Islands or showed them in a different colour like the '1882 Latzina map' thereby acknowledging that the Argentine government had no claim to the Falkland Islands.
The right to self-determination under the UN charter is also very relevant. The Falkland Islanders do not want to be part of Argentina.
Get over it...
Malvinero, tell us all about how Argentina has helped the world when major conflicts have arisen. Missing in action....that's a surprise.
Jun 13th, 2012 - 01:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sometimes, good men need to stand up and confront tyrants....yes, the Americans, the British, the Australians, the New Zealanders and the Canadians know a bit about war....World War I and II, etc. Where was Argentina in WWII, oh that's right, supporting the enemy...the Nazis and the Fascistas....nice effort.
The Middle East and Afghanistan. Malvinero1, is Saddam Hussein one of your heroes, or may be Osama bin Laden or some of our other friendly terrorist mates in the Pakistan/Afghanistan area. Many good men, including many Australian soldiers have given their lives trying to help establish stability in what is very dangerous part of the world. Again, tell us all how many Argentinians have given their lives selflessly for others in war......with the exception of perhaps some Argentines with British heritage, I would say about zero.
Malvinero1 and your fellow Malvinistas and friends of La Campora and CFK are a complete disgrace. There are decent Argentines out there and I know some here in Sydney and in Buenos Aires, and they would feel frankly embarrassed by your antics.
One thing, Malvinistas, get used to it and start thinking about the Falkland Islands Bicentenary in 2033.....and many anniversaries to follow.
Seriously, Argentina has to start to grow up and deal with its many internal problems. If well run, Argentina could be a successful nation.....but at the moment, your nation is an economic joke.
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@malvi-baby
Jun 13th, 2012 - 09:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We are better off having beat youn in 1982-it proved that we still had some backbone and could tell right from wrong, whereas you obviously can't.
We felt a bit better about oursleves as a nation having beaten another facsist aggressor who thought we would be a soft touch.
Never mind malvi. I wonder what it's like being you, do the “voices” get a bit loud at time?
apparently
Jun 13th, 2012 - 11:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0peronist and even argentine senators, think she is an embarrassment to argentina,
They blame her and her disciples for destroying , what could have been a great and powerful country in south America,
But now just a pile of hot air .
apparently
.
@ Magnum Simian Malv - Alpha male of their species!!
Jun 14th, 2012 - 03:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Argentina will get MAlvinas without a shot...”
Ermmm, you want a bet? It is not possible in the current climate! You will have to wait a few more decades at least, and during those decades start charming the arses of the Falklanders.
Bless you and the single cell you have as your brain!
“Only the Falkland Islands people can determine how they wish to be governed.”
Jun 14th, 2012 - 06:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0Shouldn' that be
“Only the Falkland Islands' people can determine how they wish to be governed.” ?
That is the only error I can find in FCO minister Jeremy Browne's statement.
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