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Argentine president and multi-party delegation leave for UN Falklands’ debate
Argentine President Cristina Fernandez leaves Wednesday at 19.00 hours for New York where on Thursday afternoon she is scheduled to address the UN Decolonization Committee claiming sovereignty over the Falklands/Malvinas and other South Atlantic Islands as well as demand discussions with the UK over the future of those territories. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesIf the plane explodes, please let The Sun's headline say “You've been tangoed!”.
Jun 13th, 2012 - 08:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0Tango 1 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jun 13th, 2012 - 08:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0Is it named after CFKs complexion?
@2 :D
Jun 13th, 2012 - 08:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0I like this bit “Furthermore the Falklands as Argentina is a land of immigrants with the difference that in the Islands there was no indigenous population as in the continent.”
I still haven't received a reasonable explanation from any Argentinian why their situation is any different.
Additionally, why is KFC pushing for more “good offices” if they've already been offered?
@ Boovis
Jun 13th, 2012 - 09:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0That one comment has made my day! :)))))
Maybe Cameron should fly out in a plane especially named:
Jun 13th, 2012 - 09:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0“UK1 Argentina 0”
@5 don't forget that the UK has no real reason to be at the meeting, which is weird when everyone claims the UK controls the islands, surely their presence should be demanded? I'd leave to see Hague tear a new one in KFC publicly, and this time take copies of all the documents: the papal bulls**t, the ship registers that show no-one really left the islands, family trees of families descended from the 1833 folk that chose to stay, the 1850 settlement of differences, the 1863 spanish recognition of sovereignty... everything. If any country still takes Argentina's side after that, we know it's nothign to do with facts but pure and simply a Hispanic Mafioso insistent on it's stupid little empire.
Jun 13th, 2012 - 09:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0Tango 01 - i knew she was a few steps short of a Tango. Is she medicated?
Jun 13th, 2012 - 09:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0I assume it is a reference to their “takes two to tango” mantra - but assume they did not concieve how daft and open to ridicule it is in the English language.
Jun 13th, 2012 - 09:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0She obviously hopes to achieve results by means of interminable nagging. (Sorry about the implicit sexism of this comment, but one might just as well comment that she thinks she can win by repeating “I want, I want!” until everyone gives in out of sheer exasperation.)
Jun 13th, 2012 - 09:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0I hope the plane isn't overloaded with dollars! The South Atlantic could face environmental disaster - a 50 mile botox slick !!
Jun 13th, 2012 - 09:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0I assume they will have to pay for fuel in cash (dollars not pesos) like the national airline has to?
Jun 13th, 2012 - 09:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0I wonder if the pilot is from the Polish air force?
Jun 13th, 2012 - 09:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0Slightly surprised that, when it hits the tarmac, those hedge funds with claims against the government won't try to take possession over it for non-payment of debts. There was a story of this happening last time she went to Europe, in the end Tango1 had to be changed for an AA flight and the plane would not be government property and open to possession claims by hold-out debtors.
Jun 13th, 2012 - 09:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0I'd hate to have to sit through her idiotic rant. She has one hell of an irritating voice.
Jun 13th, 2012 - 09:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0Think of it, one well placed explosion when they pull into the airport, and we could be rid of the lot of them !! :D
Jun 13th, 2012 - 09:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0Does this trip represent anything beyond “A beano for the deluded” ?
Jun 13th, 2012 - 09:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0@16. No.
Jun 13th, 2012 - 10:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0Bovis, we dont need Hague to spell out and document Argentine bullshit at the C24! Best if it is done- and am sure it will be- by islanders and their elected representaives. It is a pretty irrelevant group anyway so no need for the UK Govt to demean themselves and attend - we are the agenda topic so up to us to attend.
Jun 13th, 2012 - 10:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0Nice to see that Tango 01 (actual name “Virgen de Luján”) is equipped with British Rolls Royce engines.......that must make the eyes of the Argentine delegation water when they see the big RR logos!
Jun 13th, 2012 - 10:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0Agenda , anti British rant at the U.N.,deposit dollars at bank,botox top up,
Jun 13th, 2012 - 10:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0shoes,jewelery and a toy for Maximo for being a brave boy in the hospital.Job done.
@18 Islander1 (#) Too right, i think the Islanders meeting her face to face might do her some good. Teach her that shes deluded in thinking your a leaderless populace that is has been taken hostage by us. Show her that the islanders are an independent strong community, if she hasn't already got the memo.....
Jun 13th, 2012 - 10:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0@18: i hope they do present enough evidence other than the self determination argument, the assembly finds that claim spurious at best so some good hard evidence against CFKs lies would really push the FIGs claims forward.
Jun 13th, 2012 - 10:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0@22. It would be ignored by the Argies and the C24 committee anyway. They should just go and laugh at the hilarious lies that the Argies will tell, then make paper aeroplanes and throw them at the Argie delegation.
Jun 13th, 2012 - 10:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0Stop British taxpayers’ money supporting World Bank loans to Argentina:
Jun 13th, 2012 - 10:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/34551
“demand discussions” demand or you like it aint happening its not the UKs place to handle discussions over descions regarding falklands future, and the UK respects Democracy and the right to SELF DETERMINATION its a pity Argenweener does not and thats what will be Argenweeners downfall
Jun 13th, 2012 - 10:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0Mmmmm.... so Mauricio Macri is staying home alone ...... I bet Maxie's mummy has got the local SS keeping a close eye on THAT boy.
Jun 13th, 2012 - 10:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0How many happy campers did she manage to round up and rope in the end? I somehow got the impression that they weren't exactly queuing up for seats on the plane.
@ 1 Chuckle ............ eye witness reports indicate the pilot was getting a slapping from a hairy orange alien of indeterminate gender but described as “sort of an orange Mrs Blobby lookalike ... ” :-)
@ 10 They won't have to take many $$$ with them, just enough to get them from the airport to their safety deposit boxes.
@ 13 Couldn't she invoke diplomatic immunity?
Remember argentina impounded a US plane not long ago, revenge tastes so sweet...
Jun 13th, 2012 - 10:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0@22 I agree. The FIG should take Pepper to prove that 2065 was as a result of the UN being misinformed. As the Argentines keep repeating the same crap I think FIG should keep repeating the evidence against. The Argentinians and their mafia buddies won't listen but others will, so it will not be a waste of time. Also why why why why, do the FIG not dispute the transplanted population myth and fire back at the RG's that they are transplanted?
Jun 13th, 2012 - 10:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0I wish they'd hurry up and get on with it. I want to see what happens at the meeting.
Jun 13th, 2012 - 10:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0It is clear that the referendum plan has wrong footed the CFK regime. The kaleidascope has been shaken and he pieces are in flux. Hopefully one will land straight in CFKs eye.
Hoping her plane crashes is just wishful thinking while there's no new news.
It will be a good opportunity for the whole delegation to collect their USD from NY Banks and take them back home to be exchanged into pesos !!
Jun 13th, 2012 - 10:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0You can be sure that the FI delegation will address all the lies and issues raised. The young group will give a perspective looking forward for a country with a great future.
In the meantime - Henry Hill - RIP
Jun 13th, 2012 - 10:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0@31 We'll never know if any innocent people really suffered because of what he did but, whether they did or didn't, he had a turbulent life so hope he's found peace.
Jun 13th, 2012 - 11:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0As he ran a protection racket i'm guessing they did - though he was probably the best of a bad bunch.
Jun 13th, 2012 - 11:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0Parallels with the CFK governance.
Good luck and god speed, fair Cristina =)
Jun 13th, 2012 - 11:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0#14 Whats wrong with her rich expressive voice??
@34, depends, if you think a mix between a screaming cat and a dribbling wet machine gun is rich and expressive.
Jun 13th, 2012 - 11:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0@34. What's right with it? She should come with an “Irritant” label attached. A bit like most Argies for that matter!
Jun 13th, 2012 - 11:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0BTW - The photo is a mock up made on FSX. Where is the real Tango 01?
Jun 13th, 2012 - 11:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Argentine govenment rating has dropped 22% since October according to BA polsters. With inflation close to 30% and wage rises running at about 5% CFK needs to have a good rant on the international stage to distract the gullible away from the harsh economic realities of her inept government.
Jun 13th, 2012 - 11:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0@34
Jun 13th, 2012 - 11:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0She should be called Thrush- she's an irritating cant.
@37 The real Tango 01 is probably picking up Maximo and his solid gold bullion throne that is next to him in the hospital, transport costs upwards of $80 million and ensuring that he's taken back to his massive hotel complex without any issues.
Jun 13th, 2012 - 11:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0Please, people, let us treat this with all the gravity and respect the forthcoming event demands.
Jun 13th, 2012 - 11:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0“President Cristina Fernández, according to Argentine media, in her speech will insist on having the UK comply with UN resolutions and begin talks on the Malvinas’ sovereignty; attack London for the militarization of the South Atlantic; for the illegal and illegitimate exploitation of natural resources in a disputed territory and underline that the UK’s stance is not only an affront to Argentina but to the whole of the continent which is aligned behind the objective of denouncing and ending all vestiges of anachronic colonialism in Latin America.”
(1) UN Resolutions. Irrelevant as they are NON-BINDING.
(2) Sovereignty. Irrelevant as it is not a subject within the C24 remit.
(3) Militarisation. Only required as a protection against argie belligerency.
(4) Illegal and illegitimate exploitation of natural resources in a disputed territory. But Britain isn't exploiting any natural resources. The Falkland Islanders are exploiting their own resources.
(5) An affront to argieland and the whole of the continent. So? If argieland and the rest of the continent are so incensed by anachronistic colonialism, what about French Guiana?
And thus CFK will prove herself, and her cuntry, yet again, to be a mob of mindless, imperialist, colonialist gangsters.
AAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!
No UN Resoution since 1988 - all long dead !
Jun 13th, 2012 - 11:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0@41 she's a mad harridan in control of a corrupt failing society, both morally and economically. Whatever she says to some remitless committee is unimportant.
Jun 13th, 2012 - 11:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0@42: French Guiana was removed from the decolonisation list because they send someone to represent them in the French Senate. If the FIG were allowed to do the same, then it wouldn't be considered a colony as they'd have voting power alongside the mother nation. At the moment it's perceived as being one-sided as the UK has a governor in the islands, but the FIG has no vice-versa. It's a fair enough point that perhaps this should be changed.
Jun 13th, 2012 - 11:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://falklandsnews.wordpress.com/2012/06/13/falklands-have-no-desire-to-be-ruled-by-argentina/
Jun 13th, 2012 - 12:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0:-)
@44 Boovis (#) I dont know, there might not be that much of a point. The FI run their own show, theres not much the UK meddles with. Likewise, a FI representative wouldn't have much to do, because they wouldn't be concerned with the general running of the UK.
Jun 13th, 2012 - 12:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@1 Boovis
Jun 13th, 2012 - 12:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Genius.
Funnisest thing I've read in these forums.
Oooh KFC is going to “demand” Britain gives her the Falkland Islands. There's no point in “discussions” since she and her imbecilic government have already made it clear that they believe their ludicrous claim to sovereignty is “incontrovertible”.
Jun 13th, 2012 - 12:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Perhaps “demand” means something different in spanish. In english, a demand (To ask for something forcefully in a way that shows that you do not expect to be refused) is associated with an implied threat of force. So, either KFC seriously doesn't expect to be refused (she surely knows she will be), so she's making a threat. This is like being attacked by an angry Chihuahua... yawn.
@48
Jun 13th, 2012 - 12:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Don't underestimate those vicious Chihuahuas! :o)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/family/pets/8647193/Chihuahua-foils-armed-robbery.html
I told you!
@ 44 and 46
Jun 13th, 2012 - 12:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Who in their right mind would even WANT the job?
Poor sod would have Alicia Castro on the doorstep every other day either waving or burning flags and demanding answers to the “Malvinas” question.
@50 Is it true that on the Argentinian embassy in London, there's a picture on the gate of Castro saying “I live here”?
Jun 13th, 2012 - 12:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes - it's to scare away burglars.
Jun 13th, 2012 - 01:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@48 Yes, we were less than vigilant in '82, and the pests took full advantage, and made a proper mess for us to sort out.
Jun 13th, 2012 - 01:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Keep CFK's plane fully fuelled for an early embarassing exit.
Jun 13th, 2012 - 01:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Good luck islanders, do us all proud!
Whats the betting that FCK will throw a wobbly,Blame all 146 nations of the world and .....go off and spend all her ill-gotten dollars she has stolen from the 'shirtless ones'. Jorge Lanata for President
Jun 13th, 2012 - 01:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Anyone know when the meeting kicks off for real? Preferably in GMT
Jun 13th, 2012 - 01:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@1 Boovis....shurley they would use that old headline “GOTCHA” :-)
Jun 13th, 2012 - 01:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Tempting target though Tango 1 is, if we shot it down we'd never hear the last of it. The RGs would whine about it for decades. No sense of gratitude. :D
Jun 13th, 2012 - 01:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Fear not - we'll still get car crash TV when she speaks at the C24. Plane crashes are too much to hope for.
Jun 13th, 2012 - 01:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0She's taking the opportunity to take as many USD out of the country before even more stringent restrictions are imposed.
Jun 13th, 2012 - 02:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It may sound like the kind of bogus claim made on late-night infomercials, but trust me when I say it's true: C24's policies are colored by a sycophantic adoration of Marxism.
Jun 13th, 2012 - 02:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Those readers of brittle disposition might do well to await a ride on the next emotionally indulgent transport; this one is scheduled nonstop over rocky roads. As soon as you're strapped in I'll announce something to the effect of how in public, C24 promises that it'd never rob Peter to pay Paul. In private, however, it secretly tells its hatchet men that it'll do exactly that.
I think we've seen this movie before: It's called Business as Usual for C24.
I have concluded that to build a better world, a cleaner world, a safer world, and a saner world the C24 must be eliminated.
59 Idlehands (#)
Jun 13th, 2012 - 02:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Jun 13th, 2012 - 01:43 pm
I don't know, Tango 01 is maintained by Aerolineas Argentinas!
@61 I'll agree on this: C24 is a “stacked deck”. An interesting “question” for C24 to address would require them to state why each of the territories on their “list” are still considered to require “decolonisation”. Let's take the Falkand Islands and Gibraltar as examples. Both are self-supporting and internally self-governing. Britain has Governors there, but Britain has Governors-General in Australia and Canada. Neither the Falkland Islands nor Gibraltar pay any monies to Britain. In fact, money is more likely to move the other way, such as where Britain is financing the new airport for St Helena. So what is the criteria?
Jun 13th, 2012 - 03:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What the fuck is a frigging botoxed toilet cleaner doing flying in a Presidential frigging airplane? For sure Argentina is one fucked up country when they allow this to happen, and who the fuck came up with the name Tango 01 who the fuck would name a frigging Presidential plane after a bottle frigging pop for fucks sake.
Jun 13th, 2012 - 03:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Stop all funding to this corrupt country called Argentina bring down this corrupt country and all who govern Argentina.
www.StopFundingArgentina.org
Sign the form now
UN Charter
Jun 13th, 2012 - 03:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Article 1
The Purposes of the United Nations are:
1. To maintain international peace and security, and to that end: to take effective collective measures for the prevention and removal of threats to the peace, and for the suppression of acts of aggression or other breaches of the peace, and to bring about by peaceful means, and in conformity with the principles of justice and international law, adjustment or settlement of international disputes or situations which might lead to a breach of the peace;
2. To develop friendly relations among nations based on respect for the principle of equal rights and self-determination of peoples, and to take other appropriate measures to strengthen universal peace;
3. To achieve international cooperation in solving international problems of an economic, social, cultural, or humanitarian character, and in promoting and encouraging respect for human rights and for fundamental freedoms for all without distinction as to race, sex, language, or religion; and
4. To be a center for harmonizing the actions of nations in the attainment of these common ends.
I take it C24 complies with article 1:2and 1:3 0f the charter.
You could not have any better terms of reference than these.
So why is she going there in the first place?
The presence of UK Defense Minister in Malvinas is military escalation his attendance at liberation ceremony is a militarization of crisis that make war more likely! We also know about nuclear missiles submarine patrolling in Argentine waters off Malvinas a clear breach of nuclear treaty, bringing British ICBM missiles within range of Argentina for the first time!!!
Jun 13th, 2012 - 03:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0All this will be outline by President Fernadez at C24 where she ensure they deliver UN resolution on day of victory for Argentina. We are smarter than you, which is why we use irrefutable arguments to achieve our goals!
She is going because she can listen to the sound of her own voice droning on AND she has an excuse to go shopping in New York. She does not have a full schedule there so it mostly a jolly boys outing.
Jun 13th, 2012 - 03:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Furthermore the Falklands as Argentina is a land of immigrants with the difference that in the Islands there was no indigenous population as in the continent.”
Jun 13th, 2012 - 04:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Keep repeating the same “pelotudés” idiots! Argentina is not a country of immigrants, but a country that received immigrants who began arriving in the late eighteenth and early twentieth century! Thanks to the generosity of the Creoles and gauchos and intelligence to see the need to populate a GREAT Country very unpopulated. It is an insult to all pre ARGENTINE influx of immigrants who founded this great nation, I understand, the creolisation, the gauchos and the Indians to repeat here that both the myth of extinction. Walk up the streets of the Argentine cities and see if it looks like European streets. See if you learn!
@68 I think we'll skip walking up the streets, since we'd rather hang onto our cameras, watches, kidneys etc... As for not being a country of immigrants...the hypocritical delusions of Argies are fascinating in their stupidity. You've managed to contradict yourself at least twice in a single paragraph.
Jun 13th, 2012 - 04:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#66
Jun 13th, 2012 - 04:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sorry to frighten you, but you are already within range of our SSBN submarines when they are berthed at their base in Faslane, in Scotland. They can reach you from here. All they would have to do is move 25Km into the Clyde Estuary and launch them from there.
If it comes to that, I will go down to the sea front where I live and watch the fun. If you give me your phone number, I will contact you and give you advance warning.
As to “we are smarter than you” well where's your proof of that?
All you do is post the same inane drivel from the Big Boy's Book of Argentinian
Myths and lies.
How do you know there is a hunter/killer sub. in Falkland waters - do you have second sight? Your lot could not find a turd in a cesspit never mind a sub.
If there is a RN Sub anywhere down there, it will not be a SSBN but a Hunter/Killer which is nuclear powered but does not carry nuclear weapons
The only chance of a war will be if your lot try to invade the Falklands again.
If your beloved President comes out with this load of nonsense it will just prove what a fool she is.
I hope CFK doesn't turn her armed police on the war vets if they make a mistake. She is so despicable for exploiting them like this. They actually think she is getting somewhere because that's what their people tell them. If only they could step outside of the cocoon they're in and realise what further damage she is causing them.
Jun 13th, 2012 - 04:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 066 Flippo
Jun 13th, 2012 - 05:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yeah you are really smart:
“bringing British ICBM missiles within range of Argentina for the first time”
The above phase shows your cluelessness, thus:
1) UK nuke capability is “second strike” . That only works by keeping sub location secret. I.e. RG don't know where the subs are?
2) Nuclear subs don’t necessarily carry nuclear weapons. Is that so difficult to understand.
3) “ICBM” (InterContinental Ballistic Missile). Do you understand what ICBM means? I'll help you out, it means the missile can reach you from another continent. In other words it means if they want to nuke you they don’t need to be in Argentine waters. Do you really believe the British have nukes targeted at Argentina? Numpty.
@62
Jun 13th, 2012 - 05:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well it will be at least an hour late then and cost tax payers 30% more then. haha
Is that a picture from MS Flight Simulator? :)
Jun 13th, 2012 - 05:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hope she flys into falklands airspace Faith , hope , charity, and desperation would love to put one up her pipe so to speak.
Jun 13th, 2012 - 06:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That would be some sight. a RAF Typhoon on each wing of Tango 1. Seriously though, would not put it past this woman to overfly the island as a political stunt! or to pull something similiar during the liberation ceremony.
Jun 13th, 2012 - 06:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yep love her to play that card and we accidentally blat tango 1. But seriously I reckon you could be right on that one. Or a flight with grieving war widows blusters into FI Airspace demanding to land so the weeping widows can pay homage...man this is easy, I could work for plastic face.
Jun 13th, 2012 - 06:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If Turkeyneck is cornered she'll drop the Argie superweapon on the Falklands - a giant cream bun on a piece of string dragged in front of a lumbering Maximo. It would be like a Godzilla rampage.
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Great comments as always.
Jun 13th, 2012 - 07:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In fact, the comments are what I like best about this site.
Here's the part I found most interesting.
“On Friday the Argentine president will meet CEOs from leading US corporations inviting them to invest in Argentina”
Never mind that they are already coming anyway. In fact, here are a few.
TeleTech, Motorola, Microsoft, HP, IBM, Sony and Reuters, Starbucks and Google. And of course, Chevron, Coca-cola, Exxon-Mobile etc.
Lots of these companies are opening Service Centers in Puero Madero.
And believe me, they are Argentina to do business with the world.
There are not there to do business Argentina.
Never the less, Argentina will benefit, big time.
That ought to be enough to slap the anti-American taste out of their mouths.
Is Tango 1 the aircraft that the RG's want to use for a three weekly service to MPA?
Jun 13th, 2012 - 07:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@68 So the Argentininians did not exterminate large numbers of Amerindians during their colonisation of the country then? History suggests they did.
@66 How is a UK government minister visiting the Falklands a military escalation? Does he single handedly take off into the air and attack Argentina? Or does he swim across the sea and single handedly attack a battalion of Argentine troops when he arrives ashore?
The British forces equipment and troops are pretty awesome, but I did not know that a government minister could change in a phone box (the red British one in Stanley?), into Superman. And you say he will make war more likely. Why? He is entitled to visit the Falklands.
And you are not smarter than us, because all the Argentine arguments are nonsense! But at least they are amusing because they are so bereft of reality.
And the C24 are going to deliver a resolution? OK, it will say both sides must negotiate sovereignity.ie
Argentina: The Falklands are ours as it says so in our constitution and is non-negotiable.
UK: Ask FIG, they run the Islands, in line with the UN ideal of de-colonisation, ie giving more autonomy to the former colony.
FIG: Go away we have the right to determine our own future and we don't need you.
Argentina goes to C24 next year.
C24 repeats same direction for two sides to negotiate.
Same as above -repeat till infinity.
80. The last meeting ARG had with USA business men NOBODY showed up so after an hour of waiting the RGs when shopping!
Jun 13th, 2012 - 08:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If any business shows up this time it is to collect on all the bad debt that Argentina has with companies from the USA.
Business will be leaving that cesspit not going to it. Your contracts aren't worth the paper they are printed on and major corporations can't get loans to open new business there because it is on the verge of collapse!
@80 “And believe me, they are Argentina to do business with the world.
Jun 13th, 2012 - 09:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There are not there to do business Argentina.”
... so, following your logic, Starbucks is in Argentina to do business with the rest of the world, not to do business with Argentina?
Hmm... that would be utter bollox.
COMMONS TOLD ROYAL NAVY WILL CHALLENGE SPANISH INCURSIONS
Jun 13th, 2012 - 11:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.chronicle.gi/headlines_details.php?id=25136
Just like the egg timer,
Time eventually runs out .
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CAMERON AND HAGUE DEFEND SELF-DETERMINATION AS FALKLANDERS SET TO HOLD REFERENDUM
Britain will respect and defend their choice.
http://www.chronicle.gi/headlines_details.php?id=25136
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So, 14 June at 19:00 GMT, CFK struts her stuff at that UN committee meeting, but more importantly, when do the Falkland Islands reps go on board? Would be good to get reports on what they present. Nice that the Falkland Islands reps are mostly born after 1982 - will be different generation from the Argentine delegation, with respect to Arg vets. Falklands youth look to future, Argentina mired in past...
Jun 14th, 2012 - 01:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0Re: 56 Idlehands (#)
Jun 14th, 2012 - 03:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0Anyone know when the meeting kicks off for real? Preferably in GMT
United Nations Web TV Live Schedule for Thursday, 14 June 2012
All indicated times are New York time (GMT-4)
http://www.un.org/webcast
3:00 p.m.
4th meeting of the Special Committee on the Situation with Regard to the Implementation of the Declaration on the Granting of Independence to Colonial Countries and peoples (C-24)
6:15 p.m.
Media Stakeout: H.E. Mrs. Cristina Fernández, President of the Republic of Argentina or Foreign Minister Héctor Marcos Timerman
6:30 p.m.
Media Stakeout: Sir Mark Lyall Grant, Permanent Representative of the United Kingdom to the UN, Mike Summers OBE and the Hon. Roger Edwards of the Falkland Islands Legislative Assembly.
6:45pm
Jun 14th, 2012 - 06:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0CFK and Maximo have steak out.
66 Filippo - Ah you know about the super secret submarine that even your government doesn't know about! HAHAHA!
Jun 14th, 2012 - 07:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0Not to mention as others have pointed out our nuclear submarines can strike Argentina from the UK given their extreme strike range.
Anyway back to the subject in hand, who is ready for the next comedy show?
Is Maximo going to be there with a cream bun in each hand and sat on his throne of gold bullion?
Jun 14th, 2012 - 10:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentines are the funniest, I cannot wait to see it roll out.
A turkey has been spotted wandering the streets of New York with a beak full of fresh US Dollars.
Jun 14th, 2012 - 03:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Bernard Matthews has been informed of the escape.
I just saw this in a previous article, and it looks very good !!
Jun 14th, 2012 - 03:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'll say it again: THE MALVINAS ARE ARGENTINE, and this is the list of Spanish and Argentine governors until piratical usurpation of 1833:
SPANISH
1767-1773 F. Ruiz Puente
1773-1774 D. Chauri
1774-1777 F. Gil y Lemos y Taboada
1777-1779 R. Carassa y Souza
1779-1781 S. de Medina y Juan
1781-1783 J. M. del Carmen Altolaguirre
1783-1784 F. D. Montemayor
1784-1785 A. de Figueroa
1785-1786 R. de Clairac y Villalonga
1786-1787 P. de Mesa y Castro
1787-1788 R. de Clairac y Villalonga
1788-1789 P. de Mesa y Castro
1789-1790 R. de Clairac y Villalonga
1790-1791 J. J. de Elizalde y Ustariz
1791-1792 P. P. Sanguineto
1792-1793 J. J. de Elizalde y Ustariz
1793-1794 P. P. Sanguineto
1794-1795 J. de Aldana y Ortega
1795-1796 P. P. Sanguineto
1796-1797 J. de Aldana y Ortega
1797-1798 L. de Medina y Torres
1798-1799 F. X. de Viana y Alzaibar
1799-1800 L. de Medina y Torres
1800-1801 F. X. de Viana y Alzaibar
1801-1802 R. Fernández de Villegas
1802-1803 B. de Bonavía
1803-1804 A. L. de Ibarra y Oxinando
1804-1805 B. de Bonavía
1805-1806 A. L. de Ibarra y Oxinando
1806-1808 B. de Bonavía
1809-1810 G. Bondas
1810-1811 P. G. Martínez
After the emancipation of America, by the principle uti possidetis juris, the emancipated countries inherit, of course, the limits that had its pre-emancipation, including the Malvinas Islands
ARGENTINES
1820-1821 D. Jewett
1821-1821 W. Mason
1824-1824 P. Areguatí
1829-1832 L. Vernet
1832-1832 J. F. Mestivier
1832-1833 J. M. Pinedo
During all these years (66) there was no complaint from any country.
THE MALVINAS ARE ARGENTINE FOREVER
#91
Jun 14th, 2012 - 04:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Is this taken from the Buenos Aires phone book ?
Today it's the 30th aniversary of what i consider as the beggining of the end of the worst period of the whole argentine history. It has always been very hard for me to recognize that if the war didn't happen, we woudn't recover the democracy in 1983, but i must have intellectual honesty, thats' why i recognize such a hard reality.
Jun 14th, 2012 - 04:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Everybody knows that the criminal regimen that governed argentina in that time, used the invasion of 1982 just as a way to try to divert people's mind and perpetuate in the power. Respecting the u. k, only a militar victory could help thatcher's government, because it gave her the oportunity to boost her miserable and unpopular government, thats' why none of the two nations respected resolution 502 from the security councill.
However, despite those criminal events of 1982, and thanks to this democracy, we could judge and sentence the criminals who ordered to kidnappe, torture and make dissapear planty of our compatriots, thats' why all the argentines ought so much raul alfonsin, nestor kirchner and cristina kirchner, thanks to them we are tring to turn the page of the most criminal period of our history. If raul alfonsin didn't do more, it was because he cound't, beside he was forced to declare the shamefull amnesty of 1988, which protected the torturers, beside the most powerful corporations made fell his goverment in 1989.
On the other hand, thanks to this democracy, we could include human righst for people who had always been ignored. We ought so much the soldiers who fought in 1982, we ought them our democracy, and we ought them our lives.
Anyway, my homage goes to the soldiers from both sides who gave their lives, and who were victim of corrupt and criminal administrations which used this cause, to try to boost miserable governments.
We all know that it's hightly probable that we won't never recover the islands, but we could recover something which is much more important than two islands, we recovered our freedom.
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Jun 14th, 2012 - 05:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ta very much - only just noticed that post
I think the headline in the Sun if tango1 somehow crashed would be “tango1 banjo'ed”
Jun 14th, 2012 - 05:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#93
Jun 14th, 2012 - 09:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If more people thought as you do. then there could possibly be some dialogue between the Falklanders and Argentina. It will now take generations before the bad blood is expunged. By the actions of the Argentinian government, the Islanders are being drawn in to a siege mentality which will make them unable to make even the slightest concession.
Again ,the more your government rails against the UK, the more we close ranks and become obdurate. Threats against the UK do not work. It may be to our advantage to hand over the Islands and forget about them but that is not how our genetic make up works. In WW2, we could have done a deal with Nazi Germany and kept out of the War but we did not. We chose to fight on alone. Our cousins in Canada, Australia and New Zealand immediately stood by our side along with other Commonwealth countries - a fact that the older generation here still remember with gratitude. Even some Argentinians came over to fight on our side.
The current situation is like the irresistable force meeting the immovable object. I cannot see any resolution to the problem.
#93 A very well said, and moving, post
Jun 15th, 2012 - 11:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0#96 But the British government is also responsible for the current impasse, drilling for oil in disputed territory and refusing invitations to discuss the dispute. Also the decline into disrepute of Britain's role in the world under Tony Blair and his heirs has meant that when the Argentine government “rail against Britiain” in general terms, whatever you think of the Falkland specifically, they are right. I'm sad that thats true but glad someone, like Chavez does with the USA, is telling the truth
@97.
Jun 15th, 2012 - 01:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“”But the British government is also responsible for the current impasse, drilling for oil in disputed territory“”
I take it you never heard of the original drilling campaign that Argentina willingly signed up to?
Just because they pulled out of the agreement, doesn't mean the Falklanders have to do the same.
#97
Jun 15th, 2012 - 03:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What is there to discuss. All the Argentinians want to know is when are you going to give us the Falklands - and South Georgia -and the South Sandwich Islands - and keep out of Antarctica which all the world knows belongs exclusively to Argentina by authority of a Papal Bull issued hundreds of years before the word Argentina was coined.
@97. Don't forget they own the moon as well.
Jun 15th, 2012 - 06:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0axel arg, what a looser
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