UK Prime Minister David Cameron praised the planned Falkland Islands referendum over its sovereignty as he warned their views do matter and told Argentina not to ignore them. Read full article
Falkland Islanders views “do matter” PM Cameron warns Argentina
UK Prime Minister David Cameron praised the planned Falkland Islands referendum over its sovereignty as he warned their views “do matter” and told Argentina not to ignore them.
AHAHAHHAHAHHAHAAHAH
cameron: YOU are a crook!
Just how much money you have made with MAlvinas oil scam???
david: You are VOMITIVE prick!
Falkland Islanders views do matter, yes, and as far as I'm concerned should be part of whats taken into account. But the overwhelming and growing mood of resource nationalism in South America, and a genuine desire to right past colonial wrongs, should also figure in the balance. Which is why there should be negotiations. Thats just good common sense really, not harpy screeching (Elaine you really are full of bile, did you fancy Nestor before Cristina bagged him or something?!)
Diego Garcia and the rest of the Chagos islands were uninhabited until the late 18th century. In 1778 the French Governor of Mauritius granted Monsieur Dupuit de la Faye the island of Diego Garcia, and there is evidence of temporary French visits to collect coconuts and fish.[8] Several Frenchmen living in a dozen huts abandoned Diego Garcia when the British East India Company attempted to establish a settlement there in April 1786.[8] , and the colony failed in October.[9] Following the departure of the British, the French colony of Mauritius began marooning lepers on Diego Garcia,[9] and in 1793 the French established a coconut plantation using slave labour,
You Argies haven't got a clue . You are only good at telling lies ,lies and even more lies .You dont even bother to half get your facts right whether it is the Falklands or the Chagos.All you need to do is look at Wikipedia for a reasonably accurate history of these places.
As for Alicia spouting her stuff I thought the British attacks on the Spanish forces in 1806 and 1807 in Buenos Aires were part of a wordwide war against the French and their( coerced) allies which ultimately lead to the 'liberation' of Latin America from Spanish and Portuguese rule. Britain played the major external part in that Liberation in many ways but no thanks from Argentina.
The same is true about 1982; when Britain liberated the Falkland Islands it also liberated 28 million Argentinians from the junta but again no thanks for that.
These are the same ungrateful Argentinians who did not have anything to do with the junta even though a quarter of a million were cheering in front of the Casa Rosada when Galtieri was doing his walkabout.If Argentina can murder 30,000 of its own people without too much fuss the 1800 on the Falklands would have been no problem to dispose of if Mrs Thatcher had not sent the Task Force to protect 'our people'.
The biggest problem for Argentina is that it tells lies to itself and believes them and tells the same lies to other people and is surprised when they don't believe them.
I can't be bothered banging my head against the Argie brick wall any more. All I can do is have a good laugh at Argentina's childish antics.
You are only good at telling lies ,lies and even more lies
You are the biggest liar here by a MILE. You have yankeeboy easily beat.
You are a pathetic piece of garbage. To claim Britain liberated Latin America.... absolutely no single solitary historical source has, does, or will ever write or claim that. You just invented that out of thin air, LOL. It was Argentina that liberated a large portion of Latin America, and the history easily corroborates this.
The British attacked the CIVILIANS of Buenos Aires, virtually all of whom had never set foot in Spain and whom already were quite removed from the Spanish and stirring self-government, and it was the civilians that completely and utterly humiliated you Strategicus. You know why? The Spanish had pretty much left the city undefended, since they were far more preoccupied with other more important areas of Empire (like the Pacific, for example).
The British has come from their glorious conquest of South African and thought they could repeat the feat in the Rio de la Plata. The world's greatest military at the time high-tailed it like cowards against a rag of civilians with boiling oil.
You Brits are desperate for grandiosity... you are so consummately comtemptible. :)
Cowards is a strong word coming from an RG. I Seem to remember a war in the 1980's when a country ran like little girls when a much smaller military squashed them.....blah blah
I believe you know the rest and the cowardly nation i am referring to!
The problem with you Argies is that you cannot focus your eyes away from your own navel. That is why despite being the 8th largest country in the world with large mineral and land resources you will never amount to anything on the world stage and are not even a patch on your 'Mother Country' of Spain.
At least when Britain had wars with Spain they were real wars and not the 'crybaby' war of 1982.
Big tough Argentina with 28 million people attacks 1800 people on the Falklands defended by 70 Royal Marines , gets its arse kicked and then has not stopped crying since to anybody who half pretends that they are listening.
As for reading Argentine versions of history they are works of fiction. You cannot believe a word; like the INDEC figures.
Pro-CFK contributors are out in force this evening. I wonder if it has anything to do with 14/6? I also wonder if they're paid by word, sentence, paragraph or post? Have a good day Falklanders, and my sympathies to the bereaved on both sides.
I don't think they get proper Wikipedia in Argentina. When they click on a Wiki link they are re-directed to Argepedia. They probably have a Googltina search engine too. I can't think of any other reason for their inability to face reality when presented with facts.
@16
Maximo must have woken from his hospital slumbers and ordered an offensive. Sadly for them the tide is not in their favour, their argument that the views of the Falklanders do not matter because they have only been there longer than most Argentines and they didn't exterminate the indigenous population, is seen to not hold water by anyone with half a brain.
Question: if the islands were ever taken into Argentina, how would they organise local elections? What if they became part of Argentina, but then voted to break away from the country, what then?
enjoy the read about the tens of thousands of dead Argentinians :(. that had there rights to self determination taken away because there disagreed with the administration. or because of no real reason at all
I think most people are aware that the population of the Chagos Islands were transient, given that the islands are in themselves uninhabitable. This is in the same way to submersed islands being uninhabitable. Argentines might struggle with this concept, but it means that they cannot sustain life without overwhelming and unecessary amounts of outside help. Sad but true. In the same way that submersed islands shouldn't expect people to wear scuba equipment all day and at night, the chagosians simply didn't have a water supply once the plantations were closed.
Why are the Argentines obsessed with the principle that the Mauritians shouldn't have moved them to somewhere habitable? Is there nothing more to Argentines that watching Black Africans dehydrating on beaches until they are parched corpses? What would they have said about the British then?
The fact is, history shows the falklands peoples were never removed. This is a fact, and Diego Garcia issues have no bearing on the Falklands. I'm sure if the Falklands had no water, they would also be moved... like South Georgia.
Anyways, why are we letting La Campora distract us from their love of invading and their hatred of their own native populations?
But the overwhelming and growing mood of resource nationalism in South America, and a genuine desire to right past colonial wrongs, should also figure in the balance.
Whilst this is admirable and colonialism was wrong, if the past rights of colonialism are to be righted then it must be across the board in the whole of South America, not just the Falklands. Thus, negotiations can only be entered into simultaneously as negotiations regarding every disputed area in South America, including the disputed border between Argentina and Chile etc, etc, etc...
Also, all the best to your representatives in New York and do hope they receive a fair hearing from what is a third-world like committee. Will CFK have the decency to show the Falkland Islands representatives some respect during this meeting....or will it all prove too much for her to cope.
As to the Malvinistas and supporters of CFK.....anyone familiar with this webpage would know that you guys have no interest in a sensible discussion. It's a pity....Argentinians, despite having 40 million inhabitants, could learn a lot about good governance from the Falklanders.
#27
I agree, they could learn a lot from the Falkland Islanders as regards good government. But, on the other hand, are they capable of putting that into practice? The fact that they have repeatedly voted for the corrupt nationalist populism that is peronism suggestd otherwise.
A little bit of 'HECTORING' for Maxi (what the FXXK)
Some talk of Alexander,
And some of Hercules
Of HECTOR and Lysander,
And such great names as these.
|: But of all the world's great heroes,
There's none that can compare
With a tow, row, row, row, row, row,
TO THE BRITISH GRENADIER :|
Those heroes of antiquity
Ne'er saw a cannon ball
Or knew the force of powder
To slay their foes withall.
|: But our brave boys do know it,
And banish all their fears,
Sing tow, row, row, row, row, row,
For the British Grenadier. :|
Whene'er we are commanded
To storm the palisades
Our leaders march with fusees,
And we with hand grenades.
|: We throw them from the glacis,
About the enemies' ears.
Sing tow, row, row, row, row, row,
The British Grenadiers. :|
Something for you to sit back and enjoy, in La Nacion
Again it is evident that the only argument has to be holders of Great Britain: Self-Determination or should we say the False Self-Determination decades since that argument was refuted again and again.
It is worth recalling again the Resolution 1514. Article 6 b) Any attempt aimed at partial or total disruption of national unity and territorial integrity of a country is incompatible with the purposes and principles of the Charter of the Unit
And in this case refers to what country? In Great Britain or the Republic of Argentina? The Falkland Islands are NOT a country ...
And when the siege is over,
We to the town repair
The townsmen cry, Hurra, boys,
Here comes a Grenadier!
|: Here come the Grenadiers, my boys,
Who know no doubts or fears!
Then sing tow, row, row, row, row, row,
The British Grenadiers. :|
@8 right colonist wrong. Are you fing insane. I do not see your beloved CFK offering to give her land in Rio gallegos back to the native tribes it was stolen from in the 1800s in fact it is still celebrated on the back of the 100 peso note.
@1 Argentine press you mean the 80% of it which is funded and controlled by the government and a country in which journalist in Argentina have stated there is constant government intervention to prevent the publsihing of antio government stories. Your argument is that because the country made a mistake with Chagos we should make the same mistake with the Falklands.
Let me make it plain to state that the islanders (the islanders not the UK government) have no right to calling a refurendum and that there views are not importent is statement which is counter to the ideas of democracy, freedom, self determination and is therefore is compeltly against the charter and spirt of the UN and the views of the vast majority of the world. If a population which has lived in the Falklands since 1833 (and British history in the Islands pre dates this by a conserible margin) has no right to self determination, then the european imigrants to Patagonia (conqured in 1870s) also have no right to self detremination as they are an implanted population (by the defifntion of the Argebtine argument). Given that the 1994 constituion placed the Falklands as a terrotory of Tierra De Fuego (not an argentine province until approxiamtly half a century after 1883) thuis would mean that as the people of Tierra de Fuego (as an implanted population) have no right to excerise self determination over the Falklands and therefore their views do not matter. Taking that in 1833 Argentina consisted of Bs As and other smaller cities around the Rio Plate, the Falklands were approxiamtly 1,100 miles away and therefore well outside the juristition of the fledging country.
This is the logical extension of the Argentine argument.
TTT please change you name, you wouldn't know the truth if it snuck up behind you nicked your spleen, you profess to know all about world events where in truth if you actually did some homework you wouldn't make a fool of yourself constantly, are you just misinformed or just lazy, a schoolkid could do some homework on these subjects and come to the same conclusion. Your speaking utter shite
What a load of rubbish: the Falklands were NEVER part of Argentina (other than for a brief period in 1982 when they were illegally occupied by Argentina, which does NOT count, so the concept of territorial integrity is completely irrelevant.
And dont quote 1833 because we all know the truth, the Argentine settlement asked British permission to stay on the islands, British permission for a business venture. The permission was asked because it was already UK claimed territory.
How far did the borders of Argentina extend towards the falklands in 1833?? dont think you had cleared the pesky indians out of the rest of the country. So you colonised the rest of the southern section of RG land killing the native population, then set your eyes on the falklands. RG colonists!!!
Lets see if you can learn the words, we are going to test you later!
Then let us fill a bumper,
And drink a health to those
Who carry caps and pouches,
And wear the louped clothes.
|: May they and their commanders
Live happy all their years
With a tow, row, row, row, row, row,
For the British Grenadiers. :|
@18 You can vote if you were born in the Falkland Islands. It's a standard procedure throughout the world Marcos, even in Argentina. The local population born in a country does the voting. It's called democracy.
@6 The money from Falkland Islands oil will go to the Falkland Islanders-not Cameron or the UK. Britain will get benefits like business and jobs but if Argentina had not left UN negotiations they would have had a share in it too, rather than nothing. Argentine decision = Argentine loss.
@1 How many Chagos Islanders were killed by the UK?
How many Argentinians did the Argentinian government kill in the 1970s?
How many Amerindians did the Argentines kill in the 1880s?
I comment your support for self -determination of the Falkland Islanders as @7
@8 What Latin America think about the Falkland Islands is OK as long as it does not threaten their self-determination. It would be ideal for the Falkland Islanders to have a good relationship with Latin America but if they can't because of the Colonialist attitudes of Argentina, then the Falkland Islanders will prosper without latin America regardless.
@13 If it was wrong that the British attacked civilians in Buenos Aires do you believe it was right that apart from 80 Royal Marines,in 1982 the Argentines invaded the civilians in the Falkland Islands, who had NOT ATTACKED Argentina?
@32 According to the UN principles of self determination and de-colonisation a former colony is encouraged to become independent of the colonising country-NOT to be a colony of another country (ie Argentina).
The UK has not partially or totally disrupted Argentine national unity, as the Falkland Islands have been British since 1765, and currently the UK has given the Falkland Islanders increasing self-autonomy which I hope (according to UN rules on de-colonisation) will lead to Independence one day.
@38 In 1833 the country known as Argentina did not exisit it was known as the Provinces of the Rio Plate. The areas of patagonia and the Pampa were not yet part of the fledging country and did not become part of the country until 1870 when General (later president) Roca completed his conquest of the desert to take this land by force from the native inhabitants.
@6 Malevolent 01 What he talking about is that there is NO oil and if there was, the UK could not extract it without Argentina's help (logistics etc.). You are missing earlier ramblings. But why respond to this tosser?
Britain will get the cost of it's forces paid. British investors will receive dividends and capital gains which will be taxed in the UK, and so on. Argentina should not and will not get FXXK All.
@1 Thought you weren't going to bring Chagos up again? A typical cowardly argie liar.
@6 Now, now, farter. Try to keep a lid on it. You might explode!
@7 Don't make me larf.
@8 No, they are ALL that needs to be taken into account. And ALL that WILL be taken into account.
@13 Aaaahhh. Spanish and argie version. Liberation = extermination.
@32 But argieland is just a territory inhabited by gangsters, prostitutes, murderers, homosexuals, rapists etc. You have something to be proud of?
With a population of around 3000, why does it take so long to organize a referendum in the FI. Surely the whole thing could be done in a week and their views be made known immediately. Is this more bureaucratic garbage? The sooner the better!
We seeming to be getting a little exasperated by the repetitive Argentine postings. They post and we politely correct their misunderstandings and then they post the exact same thing again (corrected) and again (corrected) and again (corrected) ad infinitum.
It is not their fault and the failing is with us. Our replies are too complex for their simple brains. It would be really helpful to them if we could indicate a score, I like to call it a Dumb Fxxker Score (or DFS), on the value or rationale of the posting. Where (1) might indicate 'a little stupidity' and where (10) might indicate 'you are so thick that your only suitable purpose in life is to spend your time picking paper from the many tips and dumps around Buenos Aires'
As an example, record as '#6 Malevolent 01 - DFS9' before replying.
I assure you that with this feedback we will help these simple minded folk in taking these debates forward and help them to come forward with more meaningful argument rather than with their continued wasted repetition.
Can we give it a try?
This posting should not be scored for those who are thinking about it!
@47 It's a good plan, but I think the Dumb-Fxcker-O-Meter would explode from sheer overload. I'd like a system where they get a little electric shock every time they repeat themselves. Iraq bzzzzt, Chagos bzzzt, JAJAJAJA bzzzt.
Mr Cameron replied: “I think he makes an important point. No British taxpayers' money is spent on World Bank loans to Argentina; I think that is an important point”.
I hope this is correct. If it is the Argentines would be stupid enough to see it as a cause to celebrate.
52 Simon68
But none of the UK main stream TV channels seem to have noticed. Neither the BBC or Sky have bothered to schedule any program about the end of that long ago war.
In the history of British collective memory of aggression against it's people it is only moments ago. It will be a fxxking long, long time before we forget the memory of the 255 + 3 people that your country caused their deaths.
rally to the charge boy are you going to lag,
you queen and country need you rally to the flag
cant you hear the bugles cant you hear them call
cant you hear you comrades cant you hear them fall
Rally to the charge boys rally to the flag
@57FAB
True, very true. Which is why the UK will never negotiate anything with Argentina concerning the Liberty of the Falkland Islands. A great many of he British veterans are still in there early fifties, too many of their mates never got to live those extra 30 years. This was yesterday to them and it will be yesterday for them, in another 30 years time. Which is yet another reason why there will never be any negotiations with the Argentines,
And when the siege is over,
We to the town repair
The townsmen cry, “Hurra, boys,
Here comes a Grenadier!”
|: Here come the Grenadiers, my boys,
Who know no doubts or fears!
Then sing tow, row, row, row, row, row,
The British Grenadiers. :|
I don't measure the importance of an event by its appearance, or not, on a television screen, but rather on its impact on people. The Liberation Day ceremonies and the use of the Falklands Flag over 10 Downing St. and over the Foreign Office impacts on 3140 Falklanders, 27000 veterans and their famillies, 255 famillies of those British servicemen who gave their lives, 66000 Argentine veterans and their famillies, and 649 famillies of those Argentine servicemen who gave their lives in that ridiculous war.
I would say that the news is quite important to a lot of people.
If that is the parameter, I must be doing too much right.
When I respond, 20 people unite to fight my words. I have had impersonators (literal impersonators, using my name), I have had fawning puppies following me around this place (yankeeboy, greek yoghurt), I now have admiring epigones (Loghorrea Alert).
60 Rhaurie-Se Cagawell
Adam, did you read the first comment on that The Irish Times article?
Of course the Falklands should be returned to Argentina - they should never have been claimed by Britain in the first place”
63 reality check
it seems like it's beginning to rain, as usual.
Or do the rgs think the islanders are a problem to be irradiated like the native Indians in the great clearance rape and pillage of the native inhabitants land.. Go home rg,s your colony is finished, give it back to the Indians you stole it off, what's that they are all dead...poor show rgs
@16 Ynsere
Yes, UK PM David Cameron clearly says he has the choice to immediately break diplomatic relations with Argentina instead of celebrating 6/14....but he does not know what he is waiting for....
If you really cared, you would not have partly disarmed us,
You are more interested in saving the bloody stupid euro,
At our expense,
But if France, demanded action against CFK , you would beat him to the switch, would you not,
Just so they did not embarrass you .
Either put up, or keep stoom,
With a population of around 3000, why does it take so long to organize a referendum in the FI.
It is not a question of number of voters. The FIG is requesting expert help to make sure the questions asked are not biased and that takes some time.
Were the FIG Argentine it could be done in a day or so:
1. Do you want to belong to Argentina?
2. Do you want to belong to be thrown into the Atlantic from a Hercules plane?
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@68 Pissed again? Why would a country that is not a member of the UN have to comply with any UN Resolution principles?
@70 Yeah, so?
@72 Your best comment so far. Use this as a template.
@73 Oh look, susana's learned how to turn off the Caps Lock key.
@76 UKOWNS NOTHING
THE ISLANDERS ARE MENTALLY RETARDED THAT IS WHY NO ONE WANTS TO INVEST MILLONS TO BUILD A 5 STAR HOTEL.NO MONIES.NO CLASS. GET THOSE ISLANDS IN YOUR ASS...
78 SussieUS (#)
When we win your little war on us Argentina, You might change your mind about who is retarded! Our speeches sounded more intelligent than anything Plastic Face ever comes up with! but I guess it will only give you more to cry about!!
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Jun 14th, 2012 - 01:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0If the British media had any viscera, that would be the first question posed.
But their press is the joke of the world, so I guess some argie news organization will have to ask him.
Good to see good common sense drowning out the screeching harpy that is CFKC.
Jun 14th, 2012 - 01:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://falklandsnews.wordpress.com/2012/06/14/argentina-calls-for-falklands-reconciliation-with-half-truths-and-veiled-threats/
Jun 14th, 2012 - 01:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0Keep going Gus - a busy day :-)
Falkland Islands self-determination is paramount. Good that PM Cameron respects that - and expects Argentina and other nations to do same.
Jun 14th, 2012 - 01:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0@1 have to wait for the US to say they dont want the island anymore for that.
Jun 14th, 2012 - 01:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0Still if Chagos is what you want then that means moving the Falklanders / taking away their right to self determination is not what you want
I'm sure the Falklanders thank you for their support :)
Falkland Islanders views “do matter” PM Cameron warns Argentina
Jun 14th, 2012 - 01:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0UK Prime Minister David Cameron praised the planned Falkland Islands referendum over its sovereignty as he warned their views “do matter” and told Argentina not to ignore them.
AHAHAHHAHAHHAHAAHAH
cameron: YOU are a crook!
Just how much money you have made with MAlvinas oil scam???
david: You are VOMITIVE prick!
@5
Jun 14th, 2012 - 01:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0Of course. Unlike you British, I'm consistent and an honorable man. I support the Falklanders self-determination.
Something you can never be, since you are British.
Falkland Islanders views do matter, yes, and as far as I'm concerned should be part of whats taken into account. But the overwhelming and growing mood of resource nationalism in South America, and a genuine desire to right past colonial wrongs, should also figure in the balance. Which is why there should be negotiations. Thats just good common sense really, not harpy screeching (Elaine you really are full of bile, did you fancy Nestor before Cristina bagged him or something?!)
Jun 14th, 2012 - 01:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0It's not common sense when there's nothing to talk about!
Jun 14th, 2012 - 01:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0Oh God!!!! You malvinists are so tedious!!!! I cant believe how much absolute shite you guys manage to spout!
Jun 14th, 2012 - 02:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0Anyway enjoy your merry-go-round of drivel, Divots!
Diego Garcia and the rest of the Chagos islands were uninhabited until the late 18th century. In 1778 the French Governor of Mauritius granted Monsieur Dupuit de la Faye the island of Diego Garcia, and there is evidence of temporary French visits to collect coconuts and fish.[8] Several Frenchmen living in a dozen huts abandoned Diego Garcia when the British East India Company attempted to establish a settlement there in April 1786.[8] , and the colony failed in October.[9] Following the departure of the British, the French colony of Mauritius began marooning lepers on Diego Garcia,[9] and in 1793 the French established a coconut plantation using slave labour,
Jun 14th, 2012 - 02:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0@ 1 & 5 TIT
Jun 14th, 2012 - 02:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0You Argies haven't got a clue . You are only good at telling lies ,lies and even more lies .You dont even bother to half get your facts right whether it is the Falklands or the Chagos.All you need to do is look at Wikipedia for a reasonably accurate history of these places.
As for Alicia spouting her stuff I thought the British attacks on the Spanish forces in 1806 and 1807 in Buenos Aires were part of a wordwide war against the French and their( coerced) allies which ultimately lead to the 'liberation' of Latin America from Spanish and Portuguese rule. Britain played the major external part in that Liberation in many ways but no thanks from Argentina.
The same is true about 1982; when Britain liberated the Falkland Islands it also liberated 28 million Argentinians from the junta but again no thanks for that.
These are the same ungrateful Argentinians who did not have anything to do with the junta even though a quarter of a million were cheering in front of the Casa Rosada when Galtieri was doing his walkabout.If Argentina can murder 30,000 of its own people without too much fuss the 1800 on the Falklands would have been no problem to dispose of if Mrs Thatcher had not sent the Task Force to protect 'our people'.
The biggest problem for Argentina is that it tells lies to itself and believes them and tells the same lies to other people and is surprised when they don't believe them.
I can't be bothered banging my head against the Argie brick wall any more. All I can do is have a good laugh at Argentina's childish antics.
You are only good at telling lies ,lies and even more lies
Jun 14th, 2012 - 03:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0You are the biggest liar here by a MILE. You have yankeeboy easily beat.
You are a pathetic piece of garbage. To claim Britain liberated Latin America.... absolutely no single solitary historical source has, does, or will ever write or claim that. You just invented that out of thin air, LOL. It was Argentina that liberated a large portion of Latin America, and the history easily corroborates this.
The British attacked the CIVILIANS of Buenos Aires, virtually all of whom had never set foot in Spain and whom already were quite removed from the Spanish and stirring self-government, and it was the civilians that completely and utterly humiliated you Strategicus. You know why? The Spanish had pretty much left the city undefended, since they were far more preoccupied with other more important areas of Empire (like the Pacific, for example).
The British has come from their glorious conquest of South African and thought they could repeat the feat in the Rio de la Plata. The world's greatest military at the time high-tailed it like cowards against a rag of civilians with boiling oil.
You Brits are desperate for grandiosity... you are so consummately comtemptible. :)
Magnum Simian TIT,
Jun 14th, 2012 - 03:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0Cowards is a strong word coming from an RG. I Seem to remember a war in the 1980's when a country ran like little girls when a much smaller military squashed them.....blah blah
I believe you know the rest and the cowardly nation i am referring to!
@13 TIT
Jun 14th, 2012 - 03:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0The problem with you Argies is that you cannot focus your eyes away from your own navel. That is why despite being the 8th largest country in the world with large mineral and land resources you will never amount to anything on the world stage and are not even a patch on your 'Mother Country' of Spain.
At least when Britain had wars with Spain they were real wars and not the 'crybaby' war of 1982.
Big tough Argentina with 28 million people attacks 1800 people on the Falklands defended by 70 Royal Marines , gets its arse kicked and then has not stopped crying since to anybody who half pretends that they are listening.
As for reading Argentine versions of history they are works of fiction. You cannot believe a word; like the INDEC figures.
Pro-CFK contributors are out in force this evening. I wonder if it has anything to do with 14/6? I also wonder if they're paid by word, sentence, paragraph or post? Have a good day Falklanders, and my sympathies to the bereaved on both sides.
Jun 14th, 2012 - 03:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0@ 12
Jun 14th, 2012 - 04:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0I don't think they get proper Wikipedia in Argentina. When they click on a Wiki link they are re-directed to Argepedia. They probably have a Googltina search engine too. I can't think of any other reason for their inability to face reality when presented with facts.
UK Prime Minister David Cameron praised the planned Falkland Islands referendum
Jun 14th, 2012 - 05:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0The British people can only have a referendum when the government are guaranteed the result they want.
Can we vote Mr Cameron?
Magnum Simian Marcos,
Jun 14th, 2012 - 05:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0Dont be stupid all your life.....take a day off!!
Let you have a vote!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Are you an Falklander?????????
A song in dedication to those Argentine soldiers and their strategy in the Falkland Islands 30 yrs ago.
Jun 14th, 2012 - 05:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0Happy liberation day. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6LVI1gDswg
@16
Jun 14th, 2012 - 06:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0Maximo must have woken from his hospital slumbers and ordered an offensive. Sadly for them the tide is not in their favour, their argument that the views of the Falklanders do not matter because they have only been there longer than most Argentines and they didn't exterminate the indigenous population, is seen to not hold water by anyone with half a brain.
Question: if the islands were ever taken into Argentina, how would they organise local elections? What if they became part of Argentina, but then voted to break away from the country, what then?
Jun 14th, 2012 - 06:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0@ 1 if that disappoints you let me point you to a little incident that happened in Argentina that pales in comparison to
Jun 14th, 2012 - 06:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirty_War
enjoy the read about the tens of thousands of dead Argentinians :(. that had there rights to self determination taken away because there disagreed with the administration. or because of no real reason at all
really pales in comparison really
god rest their souls
if we are that level
Jun 14th, 2012 - 06:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0Conquest of the desert, Conquest of the desert, Conquest of the desert
jajajajaja RG ethnic clensing , George Galloway jajajajaja
I think most people are aware that the population of the Chagos Islands were transient, given that the islands are in themselves uninhabitable. This is in the same way to submersed islands being uninhabitable. Argentines might struggle with this concept, but it means that they cannot sustain life without overwhelming and unecessary amounts of outside help. Sad but true. In the same way that submersed islands shouldn't expect people to wear scuba equipment all day and at night, the chagosians simply didn't have a water supply once the plantations were closed.
Jun 14th, 2012 - 07:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0Why are the Argentines obsessed with the principle that the Mauritians shouldn't have moved them to somewhere habitable? Is there nothing more to Argentines that watching Black Africans dehydrating on beaches until they are parched corpses? What would they have said about the British then?
The fact is, history shows the falklands peoples were never removed. This is a fact, and Diego Garcia issues have no bearing on the Falklands. I'm sure if the Falklands had no water, they would also be moved... like South Georgia.
Anyways, why are we letting La Campora distract us from their love of invading and their hatred of their own native populations?
@ 8 BK
Jun 14th, 2012 - 08:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0But the overwhelming and growing mood of resource nationalism in South America, and a genuine desire to right past colonial wrongs, should also figure in the balance.
Whilst this is admirable and colonialism was wrong, if the past rights of colonialism are to be righted then it must be across the board in the whole of South America, not just the Falklands. Thus, negotiations can only be entered into simultaneously as negotiations regarding every disputed area in South America, including the disputed border between Argentina and Chile etc, etc, etc...
Happy Liberation Day, Falkland Islanders.
Jun 14th, 2012 - 08:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0Also, all the best to your representatives in New York and do hope they receive a fair hearing from what is a third-world like committee. Will CFK have the decency to show the Falkland Islands representatives some respect during this meeting....or will it all prove too much for her to cope.
As to the Malvinistas and supporters of CFK.....anyone familiar with this webpage would know that you guys have no interest in a sensible discussion. It's a pity....Argentinians, despite having 40 million inhabitants, could learn a lot about good governance from the Falklanders.
#27
Jun 14th, 2012 - 10:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0I agree, they could learn a lot from the Falkland Islanders as regards good government. But, on the other hand, are they capable of putting that into practice? The fact that they have repeatedly voted for the corrupt nationalist populism that is peronism suggestd otherwise.
@28 Truly incapable. They haven't had a reasonable government in nearly a century.
Jun 14th, 2012 - 10:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0Stop British taxpayers’ money supporting World Bank loans to Argentina:
Jun 14th, 2012 - 11:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/34551
A little bit of 'HECTORING' for Maxi (what the FXXK)
Jun 14th, 2012 - 11:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0Some talk of Alexander,
And some of Hercules
Of HECTOR and Lysander,
And such great names as these.
|: But of all the world's great heroes,
There's none that can compare
With a tow, row, row, row, row, row,
TO THE BRITISH GRENADIER :|
Those heroes of antiquity
Ne'er saw a cannon ball
Or knew the force of powder
To slay their foes withall.
|: But our brave boys do know it,
And banish all their fears,
Sing tow, row, row, row, row, row,
For the British Grenadier. :|
Whene'er we are commanded
To storm the palisades
Our leaders march with fusees,
And we with hand grenades.
|: We throw them from the glacis,
About the enemies' ears.
Sing tow, row, row, row, row, row,
The British Grenadiers. :|
Something for you to sit back and enjoy, in La Nacion
http://www.lanacion.com.ar/1481969-amplia-cobertura-de-diarios-britanicos-al-30-aniversario-del-fin-de-la-guerra
Great photo of our lads on the front page.
Again it is evident that the only argument has to be holders of Great Britain: Self-Determination or should we say the False Self-Determination decades since that argument was refuted again and again.
Jun 14th, 2012 - 11:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0It is worth recalling again the Resolution 1514. Article 6 b) Any attempt aimed at partial or total disruption of national unity and territorial integrity of a country is incompatible with the purposes and principles of the Charter of the Unit
And in this case refers to what country? In Great Britain or the Republic of Argentina? The Falkland Islands are NOT a country ...
32 Jose Malevolent
Jun 14th, 2012 - 11:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0And when the siege is over,
We to the town repair
The townsmen cry, Hurra, boys,
Here comes a Grenadier!
|: Here come the Grenadiers, my boys,
Who know no doubts or fears!
Then sing tow, row, row, row, row, row,
The British Grenadiers. :|
@8 right colonist wrong. Are you fing insane. I do not see your beloved CFK offering to give her land in Rio gallegos back to the native tribes it was stolen from in the 1800s in fact it is still celebrated on the back of the 100 peso note.
Jun 14th, 2012 - 11:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0@1 Argentine press you mean the 80% of it which is funded and controlled by the government and a country in which journalist in Argentina have stated there is constant government intervention to prevent the publsihing of antio government stories. Your argument is that because the country made a mistake with Chagos we should make the same mistake with the Falklands.
Let me make it plain to state that the islanders (the islanders not the UK government) have no right to calling a refurendum and that there views are not importent is statement which is counter to the ideas of democracy, freedom, self determination and is therefore is compeltly against the charter and spirt of the UN and the views of the vast majority of the world. If a population which has lived in the Falklands since 1833 (and British history in the Islands pre dates this by a conserible margin) has no right to self determination, then the european imigrants to Patagonia (conqured in 1870s) also have no right to self detremination as they are an implanted population (by the defifntion of the Argebtine argument). Given that the 1994 constituion placed the Falklands as a terrotory of Tierra De Fuego (not an argentine province until approxiamtly half a century after 1883) thuis would mean that as the people of Tierra de Fuego (as an implanted population) have no right to excerise self determination over the Falklands and therefore their views do not matter. Taking that in 1833 Argentina consisted of Bs As and other smaller cities around the Rio Plate, the Falklands were approxiamtly 1,100 miles away and therefore well outside the juristition of the fledging country.
This is the logical extension of the Argentine argument.
In my previous post, I meant: ISLAS MALVINAS and not Falkland Islands. As the translator helped Google me out this THICK mistake!
Jun 14th, 2012 - 11:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0TTT please change you name, you wouldn't know the truth if it snuck up behind you nicked your spleen, you profess to know all about world events where in truth if you actually did some homework you wouldn't make a fool of yourself constantly, are you just misinformed or just lazy, a schoolkid could do some homework on these subjects and come to the same conclusion. Your speaking utter shite
Jun 14th, 2012 - 11:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0#32
Jun 14th, 2012 - 11:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0What a load of rubbish: the Falklands were NEVER part of Argentina (other than for a brief period in 1982 when they were illegally occupied by Argentina, which does NOT count, so the concept of territorial integrity is completely irrelevant.
32 - How was Argentina invading in 1982 legal????
Jun 14th, 2012 - 11:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0And dont quote 1833 because we all know the truth, the Argentine settlement asked British permission to stay on the islands, British permission for a business venture. The permission was asked because it was already UK claimed territory.
How far did the borders of Argentina extend towards the falklands in 1833?? dont think you had cleared the pesky indians out of the rest of the country. So you colonised the rest of the southern section of RG land killing the native population, then set your eyes on the falklands. RG colonists!!!
35 Jose Malevolent
Jun 14th, 2012 - 11:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0Lets see if you can learn the words, we are going to test you later!
Then let us fill a bumper,
And drink a health to those
Who carry caps and pouches,
And wear the louped clothes.
|: May they and their commanders
Live happy all their years
With a tow, row, row, row, row, row,
For the British Grenadiers. :|
@18 You can vote if you were born in the Falkland Islands. It's a standard procedure throughout the world Marcos, even in Argentina. The local population born in a country does the voting. It's called democracy.
Jun 14th, 2012 - 11:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0@6 The money from Falkland Islands oil will go to the Falkland Islanders-not Cameron or the UK. Britain will get benefits like business and jobs but if Argentina had not left UN negotiations they would have had a share in it too, rather than nothing. Argentine decision = Argentine loss.
@1 How many Chagos Islanders were killed by the UK?
How many Argentinians did the Argentinian government kill in the 1970s?
How many Amerindians did the Argentines kill in the 1880s?
I comment your support for self -determination of the Falkland Islanders as @7
@8 What Latin America think about the Falkland Islands is OK as long as it does not threaten their self-determination. It would be ideal for the Falkland Islanders to have a good relationship with Latin America but if they can't because of the Colonialist attitudes of Argentina, then the Falkland Islanders will prosper without latin America regardless.
@13 If it was wrong that the British attacked civilians in Buenos Aires do you believe it was right that apart from 80 Royal Marines,in 1982 the Argentines invaded the civilians in the Falkland Islands, who had NOT ATTACKED Argentina?
@32 According to the UN principles of self determination and de-colonisation a former colony is encouraged to become independent of the colonising country-NOT to be a colony of another country (ie Argentina).
The UK has not partially or totally disrupted Argentine national unity, as the Falkland Islands have been British since 1765, and currently the UK has given the Falkland Islanders increasing self-autonomy which I hope (according to UN rules on de-colonisation) will lead to Independence one day.
@38 In 1833 the country known as Argentina did not exisit it was known as the Provinces of the Rio Plate. The areas of patagonia and the Pampa were not yet part of the fledging country and did not become part of the country until 1870 when General (later president) Roca completed his conquest of the desert to take this land by force from the native inhabitants.
Jun 14th, 2012 - 12:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 040 Pete Bog
Jun 14th, 2012 - 12:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@6 Malevolent 01 What he talking about is that there is NO oil and if there was, the UK could not extract it without Argentina's help (logistics etc.). You are missing earlier ramblings. But why respond to this tosser?
Britain will get the cost of it's forces paid. British investors will receive dividends and capital gains which will be taxed in the UK, and so on. Argentina should not and will not get FXXK All.
Is Kirchner being wilfully stupid - or is she just stupid?
Jun 14th, 2012 - 01:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/tomchiversscience/100165216/cristina-kirchner-is-being-either-wilfully-stupid-or-actually-stupid-about-the-falklands/
@1 Thought you weren't going to bring Chagos up again? A typical cowardly argie liar.
Jun 14th, 2012 - 01:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@6 Now, now, farter. Try to keep a lid on it. You might explode!
@7 Don't make me larf.
@8 No, they are ALL that needs to be taken into account. And ALL that WILL be taken into account.
@13 Aaaahhh. Spanish and argie version. Liberation = extermination.
@32 But argieland is just a territory inhabited by gangsters, prostitutes, murderers, homosexuals, rapists etc. You have something to be proud of?
ElaineB
Jun 14th, 2012 - 01:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Congratulations on achieving a first: the animosity of the Truth Telling Twat (aka Tobias) AND The Scottish Idiot (BK).
Your are obviously doing something right! :o)
With a population of around 3000, why does it take so long to organize a referendum in the FI. Surely the whole thing could be done in a week and their views be made known immediately. Is this more bureaucratic garbage? The sooner the better!
Jun 14th, 2012 - 01:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We seeming to be getting a little exasperated by the repetitive Argentine postings. They post and we politely correct their misunderstandings and then they post the exact same thing again (corrected) and again (corrected) and again (corrected) ad infinitum.
Jun 14th, 2012 - 01:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is not their fault and the failing is with us. Our replies are too complex for their simple brains. It would be really helpful to them if we could indicate a score, I like to call it a Dumb Fxxker Score (or DFS), on the value or rationale of the posting. Where (1) might indicate 'a little stupidity' and where (10) might indicate 'you are so thick that your only suitable purpose in life is to spend your time picking paper from the many tips and dumps around Buenos Aires'
As an example, record as '#6 Malevolent 01 - DFS9' before replying.
I assure you that with this feedback we will help these simple minded folk in taking these debates forward and help them to come forward with more meaningful argument rather than with their continued wasted repetition.
Can we give it a try?
This posting should not be scored for those who are thinking about it!
@47 It's a good plan, but I think the Dumb-Fxcker-O-Meter would explode from sheer overload. I'd like a system where they get a little electric shock every time they repeat themselves. Iraq bzzzzt, Chagos bzzzt, JAJAJAJA bzzzt.
Jun 14th, 2012 - 02:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 048 Britninja
Jun 14th, 2012 - 02:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Haha...far superior
Mr Cameron replied: “I think he makes an important point. No British taxpayers' money is spent on World Bank loans to Argentina; I think that is an important point”.
Jun 14th, 2012 - 02:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I hope this is correct. If it is the Argentines would be stupid enough to see it as a cause to celebrate.
50 Pete Bog
Jun 14th, 2012 - 02:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Has MercoPress has reported this correctly?
Falkllands flag flies over 10 Downing street.
Jun 14th, 2012 - 02:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/103541/uk-flies-malvinas-flag-outside-number-10-fco-to-mark-liberation-day
Happy Liberation Day.
#51 DFS1
Jun 14th, 2012 - 03:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Apology to MercoPress.
http://www.taxpayersalliance.com/home/2012/06/stop-funding-argentina-backed-nigel-adams-mp-pmqs.html
The point is that the World Bank is funding Argentina and UK is an effective guarantor of the World Bank. Did DC avoid the question a little?
52 Simon68
Jun 14th, 2012 - 03:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But none of the UK main stream TV channels seem to have noticed. Neither the BBC or Sky have bothered to schedule any program about the end of that long ago war.
No, Leveson might have something to do with it. Probably make the news in evening broadcasts.
Jun 14th, 2012 - 03:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0”Argentine President Seeks Irish Support To End United Kingdom's 'Colonialism'
Jun 14th, 2012 - 03:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.worldirish.com/listening-post/view/argentine-president-seeks-irish-support-to-end-united-kingdoms-colonialism-1278
http://www.worldirish.com/listening-post/view/argentine-president-seeks-irish-support-to-end-united-kingdoms-colonialism-1278
54 Marcos Alejandro DFS4
Jun 14th, 2012 - 03:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Long ago war?
In the history of British collective memory of aggression against it's people it is only moments ago. It will be a fxxking long, long time before we forget the memory of the 255 + 3 people that your country caused their deaths.
rally to the charge boy are you going to lag,
Jun 14th, 2012 - 04:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you queen and country need you rally to the flag
cant you hear the bugles cant you hear them call
cant you hear you comrades cant you hear them fall
Rally to the charge boys rally to the flag
@57FAB
Jun 14th, 2012 - 04:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0True, very true. Which is why the UK will never negotiate anything with Argentina concerning the Liberty of the Falkland Islands. A great many of he British veterans are still in there early fifties, too many of their mates never got to live those extra 30 years. This was yesterday to them and it will be yesterday for them, in another 30 years time. Which is yet another reason why there will never be any negotiations with the Argentines,
More crap....
Jun 14th, 2012 - 04:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Would that be the same Ireland who received a substantial loan from the UK :)....I'm sure the British govt is pissing itself.
Being 1/2 Irish myself.....I can tell you in no uncertain terms.....away and gin feck yer-self
Or alternatively come back when you have an opinion you brain dead abortion of an oxygen thief.....
58 Tabutos DFS1 (benefit of the doubt)
Jun 14th, 2012 - 04:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And when the siege is over,
We to the town repair
The townsmen cry, “Hurra, boys,
Here comes a Grenadier!”
|: Here come the Grenadiers, my boys,
Who know no doubts or fears!
Then sing tow, row, row, row, row, row,
The British Grenadiers. :|
Marcos Alejandro,
Jun 14th, 2012 - 04:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I don't measure the importance of an event by its appearance, or not, on a television screen, but rather on its impact on people. The Liberation Day ceremonies and the use of the Falklands Flag over 10 Downing St. and over the Foreign Office impacts on 3140 Falklanders, 27000 veterans and their famillies, 255 famillies of those British servicemen who gave their lives, 66000 Argentine veterans and their famillies, and 649 famillies of those Argentine servicemen who gave their lives in that ridiculous war.
I would say that the news is quite important to a lot of people.
MA
Jun 14th, 2012 - 04:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hows things in London? See that some stories are starting to appear. Sky carried a piece on KFC in New York. Short but quite good I thought.
6:15pm new york time
Jun 14th, 2012 - 04:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0media Stakeout: H.E. Mrs. Cristina Fernández, President of the Republic of Argentina or Foreign Minister Héctor Marcos Timerman
just found this on the UN website. i wonder why its Cristina OR timerman? (someone going to storm out again)
@64 Isn't that in case she forgets to trot back from the shoeshop? Priorities!
Jun 14th, 2012 - 05:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@45
Jun 14th, 2012 - 05:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If that is the parameter, I must be doing too much right.
When I respond, 20 people unite to fight my words. I have had impersonators (literal impersonators, using my name), I have had fawning puppies following me around this place (yankeeboy, greek yoghurt), I now have admiring epigones (Loghorrea Alert).
I am the cynosure of Mercopress.
Cameron warns Argentina
Jun 14th, 2012 - 06:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Can I please move there?
Brooks to Cameron: 'Speech of your life? Yes we Cam!'
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/leveson-inquiry/9331523/Rebekah-Brooks-sent-David-Cameron-text-message-promising-were-in-this-together.html
60 Rhaurie-Se Cagawell
Adam, did you read the first comment on that The Irish Times article?
Of course the Falklands should be returned to Argentina - they should never have been claimed by Britain in the first place”
63 reality check
it seems like it's beginning to rain, as usual.
This referandum wont be -- legal -- according to the UN Resolution principles.
Jun 14th, 2012 - 07:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The UK governments should percept that Argentina is Mauritius !
Or do the rgs think the islanders are a problem to be irradiated like the native Indians in the great clearance rape and pillage of the native inhabitants land.. Go home rg,s your colony is finished, give it back to the Indians you stole it off, what's that they are all dead...poor show rgs
Jun 14th, 2012 - 07:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0UN Charter ...Chapter 11 -- Declaration Regarding Non-Self Governing Territories -- Article 73
Jun 14th, 2012 - 07:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I warn UK ...!
Jun 14th, 2012 - 07:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0.
Jun 14th, 2012 - 07:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@16 Ynsere
Jun 14th, 2012 - 08:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, UK PM David Cameron clearly says he has the choice to immediately break diplomatic relations with Argentina instead of celebrating 6/14....but he does not know what he is waiting for....
No disrespect David, but you talk to much,
Jun 14th, 2012 - 09:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If you really cared, you would not have partly disarmed us,
You are more interested in saving the bloody stupid euro,
At our expense,
But if France, demanded action against CFK , you would beat him to the switch, would you not,
Just so they did not embarrass you .
Either put up, or keep stoom,
@ 46 copland
Jun 15th, 2012 - 06:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0With a population of around 3000, why does it take so long to organize a referendum in the FI.
It is not a question of number of voters. The FIG is requesting expert help to make sure the questions asked are not biased and that takes some time.
Were the FIG Argentine it could be done in a day or so:
1. Do you want to belong to Argentina?
2. Do you want to belong to be thrown into the Atlantic from a Hercules plane?
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Jun 15th, 2012 - 11:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0https://www.facebook.com/Britain1592
@68 Pissed again? Why would a country that is not a member of the UN have to comply with any UN Resolution principles?
Jun 15th, 2012 - 01:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@70 Yeah, so?
@72 Your best comment so far. Use this as a template.
@73 Oh look, susana's learned how to turn off the Caps Lock key.
@76 UKOWNS NOTHING
Jun 15th, 2012 - 03:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0THE ISLANDERS ARE MENTALLY RETARDED THAT IS WHY NO ONE WANTS TO INVEST MILLONS TO BUILD A 5 STAR HOTEL.NO MONIES.NO CLASS. GET THOSE ISLANDS IN YOUR ASS...
78 SussieUS (#)
Jun 18th, 2012 - 11:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0When we win your little war on us Argentina, You might change your mind about who is retarded! Our speeches sounded more intelligent than anything Plastic Face ever comes up with! but I guess it will only give you more to cry about!!
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