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British Prime Minister boost for the Falkland Islands
On the thirtieth anniversary of its liberation from Argentine occupation (June 14), the Falkland Islands was given its biggest boost by any British Prime Minister since Margaret Thatcher. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesJa, Ja, this fat Cameron gives the shame!. Pretend that someone believes that all his pirate fleet sent in 1982 to defend the will of 1800 punks (after 2000 took to the island of Diego Garcia) killing many more of the “famous”-official figure-255 “british ”If there was something else behind?
Jun 15th, 2012 - 02:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0He says he wants a constructive relationship and conservation of fisheries, where? in the North Sea? because of this side of the world, with our resources, we have nothing to talk to the thieves. Such claims that are idiots.
JoseM - Sorry- 255 british servicemen killed is and was the toal - plus 3 Islanders. What is the evidence of your dispute?
Jun 15th, 2012 - 02:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0Fisheries - Arg and Falklands had a loint Fisheries Agreement and were working on mutual interests and conservation etc - until your Kirschener Govt walked out and scrappped them, as a result Arg now has a crap fisheries policy and yours is declining!
Ours is doing quite well and is recognized as one of the best managed in the world.
@1 you are an idiot. The falklanders stole nothing, argyland has tried to steal the falklands twice now.
Jun 15th, 2012 - 03:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Kirchners are retards although Nestor had a few slightly more sensible people around him cristina has got rid of those slightly sensible ones and surrounded herself by yes men.
No Corrilito like in 2001? too late there's one by default happening right now. Pesos are rapidly losing value and you can't buy dollars or anything else of value. They are stealing your money now!
Then again you are probably part of the puerto madero ruling class and have your dollars/gold outside the country already.
A great symbol to show Falkland Islands' flag at PM's place. Along with the Falkland Islands 30 logo that appears on this Mercopress story page, where else could the flag and logo be shown to the public?
Jun 15th, 2012 - 03:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0Pirates give back the Malvinas Islands now!!!!! They belong to Argentina!!!!!!!!! All the world know that the Malvinas Islands were stolen by these british pirates. It is not possible to maintain this colony in the XXI century. Nobody believe in these pirate´s lies. Pirates: Go back to your country with your ridiculous war vessels. UK is the country with the worst antecedents in the world as a consequence of a lot of territories stolen to different countries. Everybody knows that Self determination doesn´t apply in this case because the few people who live in the Islands were implanted by the same country which stole them to Argentina a lot of years ago. In addition UK imposed a very restrictive inmigration policy with the only objetive of maintaining these few people which were implanted which are living there. Everything described before to maintain this false argument of self-determination.
Jun 15th, 2012 - 03:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0@5
Jun 15th, 2012 - 05:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0Whom do you want us to “give the islands back to”?
1) the original French settlers from Port Louis who left in the 1760s
2) the original British settlers from Port Egmont who left in the 1770s
3) the original Spanish settlers who left in 1811
4) the independent Vernet community who were actively encouraged to stay and all but four did?
5) the 20-strong Argentine penal colonists who arrived in October 1832, murdered their Captain Esteban Mestevier, raped his wife in front of his children, and were expelled in January 1833?
All “the world knows”, hmmm, but nobody has ever done a thing about it.
Here is some advice John Farrell. Concentrate on your country, leave the islanders to theirs. Be ashamed of your countries past, the genocide of the Amerindians, the harbouring of the Nazis, the throwing of political opponents from aeroplanes, the 1982 invasion...hang your head...
John Farrel? I'm guessing you aren't from the UK, but with a name like that I guess you might have been at least Irish in origin, so where are you living? If it isn't Ireland, you're a transplanted population. Quick, to the boats, lest you be branded an effing hypocrite!!
Jun 15th, 2012 - 05:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0Question to all you RG's:
Jun 15th, 2012 - 05:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0If an indigeanous tribe of Argentina, decided to claim a portion of RGland as an independant country (as your country is a product of colonialism), woudl you agree to it?
Afterall you stole another peoples land, and based on your arguemnets that the UK stole a land from you, you should have no problems giving land to those who rightfully own it.....right??????
I understand that this is unlikely to happen, but would love to hear an RG stance on this!
I loved Cristina's speech, it is very clear that her plastic surgery efforts are affecting her health. Her mental capacity is that of a child.
Jun 15th, 2012 - 05:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0Can Argentina please lead by example and hand back their country to the indigenous population, oh wait, they that's not possible, they were murdered! How convenient. No wonder Argentina's crime figures are so high!
Nice one David... I never thought I'd say that
Jun 15th, 2012 - 06:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0@1 josé We're all laughing at you :)
I'd encourage PM Cameron to truly militarize the islands with more men, equipment, jets, warships and submarines. Sounds like a good excuse to work up around the islands with war games in a demonstration of force.
Jun 15th, 2012 - 07:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0What you going to do about it SA other than cry like little bitches? Zero because you know you're up against a fighting force willing to bring it and we all know what happened last time when you ran away or surrendered.
Pussies.
Oh! Poor CaMoron seems he has to change medication.
Jun 15th, 2012 - 07:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0He is distracting Brit attention to the Malvinas problem as he has a lot of trouble at home.
He would like to send boats and carries like Maggie had done but the problem is that there are any left due to his own cuts. Ha ha
I thought that John Major was the worse PM in UK after Maggie but CaMoron has won all titles of stupidity given in the world.
Meanwhile GB in recession again and with “financial Armageddon” coming from Spain knocking at his door.
Can be any worse? Oh yes sure can be...
Still we are building two new shiny aricraft carriers and argentina has none.
Jun 15th, 2012 - 08:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0Or fighter jets
Or Soldiers who can fight
@13 If it comes to war, this time we should actually ruin them. The Gulf war 1 strategy of letting festering meat fester doesn't seem to work.
Jun 15th, 2012 - 08:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0Stop British taxpayers’ money supporting World Bank loans to Argentina:
Jun 15th, 2012 - 08:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/34551
CFK goes to the New York to demand dialogue.
Jun 15th, 2012 - 09:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0David goes to London and says, no.
There you Kristina, you could have saved yourself a trip, mind you, you would have missed out on all that shopping,
#12
Jun 15th, 2012 - 09:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0There is hardly any mention of your “Malvinas” problem in the UK press or TV news.
I watched the UK news on TV this morning and madame K's whining at the C24 meeting got about 30 seconds air time.
We do not need to send any more ships down to the Falklands as our one vessel and “possible” nuclear attack sub. can quite easily deal with any threat from your forces.
As to our PM being the title of the stupidist person in the world, I reluctantly have to concede that the Argentine has beaten us to this one .
CFK?, Timmerman - they take the Gold medal for this. Pity there is not a contest for this at the Olympics. Argentina would leave the rest of the world floundering in its wake
Dany, you do realise that this isn't being reported at all in the British press. For us, it's a non-issue. Mercopress is the only english language website where people who are genuinely interested in the Falklands can get more than one or two news stories a month. It's Cristina who's doing all of the sabre rattling and making the whole thing into a massive issue. Oh, and by the way, Britain has 98 ships in its navy, not none. How many does Argentina have? 43, with only 4 of these, the Almirante Brown destroyers being of any real worth in combat. Things will soon swing even further in Britain's favour, as by 2017 we'll have a fully functioning Supercarrier flying the F-35, one of if not the best fighter jet in the world.
Jun 15th, 2012 - 09:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0There is the Buenos Aires Herald too:
Jun 15th, 2012 - 10:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.buenosairesherald.com/
@Martin Woodhead
Jun 15th, 2012 - 10:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0Oh! Please don’t invade because we are still building carries. Can you wait Argies to 2020?
Martin you don’t have any effective capabilities to expel a new invasion and Argentina doesn’t need carries to trash you RN.
So stop dreaming you are in complete disaster and some subs will not help you.
@GreekYoghurt
You will fight against Argentina not Iraq and alone.
@BritishguyfromLondon
“Things will soon swing even further in Britain's favour, as by 2017 we'll have a fully functioning Supercarrier flying the F-35, one of if not the best fighter jet in the world.”
I guess you will not have all your stuff ready for combat until 2020 if you are lucky and that is 9 years to come.
So you are virtually hoping to have something in the future things happens in between.
But at the moment and lets say in 1 or to years you are naked to perform a major military operation on your own.
We are in 2011 and your navy can be sunk from long distance today.
Oh! Torpedo nope it flies and faster Boom glu glu glu...
20 DanyBerger
Jun 15th, 2012 - 10:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0If that's the case then why don't you just get on with it? News has been pretty dull recently
@1 Do you have anything intelligent to say? Because I haven't seen any sign of it in any of your posts yet. Oh, how the standard of argie Haw Haws is coming down! But here's a thought for you. There are actions that you could take that “might” adversely affect BOT citizenry to an extent that would make Britain go to war. And the number of BOT citizens you have to adversely effect in that way is..........ONE! Think about it.
Jun 15th, 2012 - 10:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0@5 Shove off. These ten words are more than you deserve.
@12 How are you going to feel when HMS Albion, Bulwark and Ocean turn up?
@20 Go on then. There's ONE destroyer there. Send your aircraft. Dauntless can kill the lot without raising a sweat. Every one will be an identified target from the moment it takes off. And they can start exploding 75 miles away. As for the subs, how do you feel about 175 cruise missiles? And the latest torpedos, of course. And the Typhoons and extra troops on their way from Britain. You've heard of our new MRTTs? Each one can carry 380 troops and their equipment AND refuel 4 Typhoons AND reach the Falkland Islands non-stop.
And, by the way, we're in 2012. Still behind the times, I see!
@20 We fought the spread of your Naziism and lack of humanity alone before in 1982, we'll fight it again alone whenever you choose to invade again [and you will, because imbeciles never learn].
Jun 15th, 2012 - 11:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0Just one request, when you invade again, can you remember to bring back that Alessandro Betts chap so, maybe he can point out all the important people again and then abandon his family, wife and children again.
Great example of morality there.
@20 Bring it on Dany. I'd hardly call fighting Argentina a 'major military operation' seeing as the Falkland Islands defences are more than enough to stop both your Navy and Air Force. But hey, I think Idlehands is right - things have been pretty dull lately and at the very least the sunken Argentine vessels would provide good diving spots. People will be getting bored of swimming round the Belgrano after all.
Jun 15th, 2012 - 11:12 am - Link - Report abuse 020 - Tomahawk cruise missles ...whoosh (fling sound) bang, thats it exploding in BA or any other military base in RG land. Subs will fill the hole in expeditionary forces until our 2 super carriers. Put to sea and the RG fishing fleet navy will be sunk, Aircraft will be shot down by our fighters and superb new destroyer. So nothing to discuss really , monies in place. Dont know about financial armagedon!! think your 25 % inflation, lack of gas to warm your people, and currency fiasco would indicate RG's are foooooked.
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Jun 15th, 2012 - 11:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0https://www.facebook.com/Britain1592
@20 What Argentine forces are you going to use to trounce the British Forces?
Jun 15th, 2012 - 12:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0These ones http://www.coha.org/honor-shame-and-duty-the-reality-of-argentina%E2%80%99s-tattered-armed-forces-today/
The only real reason, it was not mentioned in the british press, or largly on TV is we brits leave this kind of reporting to [CBee bies ]
Jun 15th, 2012 - 12:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0.
we have no interest in barbie dolls trying to find an action man on the world stage, to fight her illigal battles .
we have more importent thing to deal with .
mr camaron has said NO, and that is that,
@20 What Argentine forces are you going to use to trounce the British Forces?
Jun 15th, 2012 - 01:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0These ones http://www.coha.org/honor-shame-and-duty-the-reality-of-argentina%E2%80%99s-tattered-armed-forces-today/
Britain !........what a flurry ?
Jun 15th, 2012 - 01:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Great Britain ONCE wealthy,vigorous,large,powerful..NOT ANYMORE !
why not,
Jun 15th, 2012 - 01:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0she is more powerfull , vigorus , wealthy , than argentina is,
and that is what matters, is it not lol.
@30 Argentina - once wealthy, vigorous, large, powerful. NOT ANYMORE! Thanks to people like you who have turned the former jewel of South America into a steaming turd. Congrats! :)
Jun 15th, 2012 - 01:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_history_of_Argentina
I wonder what they promised Quisling aka Betts, to get him to betray his family and neighbours the way he did. Maybe they promised him, governership? something like that. How does a person who has lived among people as a neighbour or friend, betray them to a military junta, he must have known he would be exposing them to abuse, torture or even death. He is up there with the worse of them, Arnold, Quiling, Joyce.
Jun 15th, 2012 - 02:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Quisling Betts didn't say. He just sat there being bitter and speaking in a foreign language about how bitter he was and how happy he was about abandoning all his family and country to support a military junta.
Jun 15th, 2012 - 02:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Curiously KFC invited a traitorous supporter of the military Junta and a committed expansionism to speak at the C24. There be irony in those hills.
Well that’s pissed on her fireworks, she got nowhere again, well said DC.
Jun 15th, 2012 - 02:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 031 + 32
Jun 15th, 2012 - 02:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Did you ever see Argentina ?....No ?
Betts at least could have worn a jacket that fitted....
Jun 15th, 2012 - 03:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@37 It's difficult to find a jacket that fits that many chips on his shoulder, and that many regrets hanging like millstones around his neck and that much forgiveness that you're never going to get.
Jun 15th, 2012 - 03:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sad sad shell of a man. Probably fits in really well in Argentina.
Berger just google rg's armed forces or lack of it and you will see you will get your arses well and truly kicked. Falkland island radar can pick up an aircraft leaving any of you airfields the minute anything looks threatening typhoons will be all over there arses like a rash. Your ships will never get out of harbour and those at sea would be dealt with ASAP Don't you think we have people and satellites watching you armed forces every move if you don't you are deluded as well as stupid
Jun 15th, 2012 - 04:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Dany Berger, I see you're advocating a little war with the UK, that would be fun wouldn't it. Now I suppose you will be in the forefront of this invasion, leading from the front like a brave Argentine soldier?
Jun 15th, 2012 - 05:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Think about it for a moment Dany, imagine what it would be like, do you remember the footage of the Welsh Guards at Bluff Cove? Do you remember the burns and the blood, that is what is waiting for you on your landing craft, but not near the shore, on the high seas. Think about it Dany, that would be you and your comrades screaming with fear and pain, and for what? To stand on a piece of land that you think is yours, but isn't. Bit stupid, no?
But lets suppose your landing craft got past the jet fighters from MPA and HMS Dauntless, and the possible submarine. You've made it to the shore, unscathed, to be met by 1000 regular army and/or marine troops, PLUS 250 very angry FIDF troops who are all out to get YOU Dany, they'll all be aiming at YOU as you come out of that cold South Atlantic water. Think about that, Dany, as they open fire on you and those bullets rip into you. And for what, Dany? To stand on a piece of land that you think is yours and isn't. Bit stupid, no?
berger i agree with Simon, as someone who served 28 years in the Royal Navy including your illegal invasion believe me son you don't want to see it or ever be there, remember last time there where a handful of Royal Marines, this time as I said above you will be met with a malestorm and turned around before you can CF FUCKIN K
Jun 15th, 2012 - 05:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Not real soldiers,Only free frontage internet soldiers who wrestle with pampas........................
Jun 15th, 2012 - 06:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@42 Yeah. Go with that. Are you going to be standing shoulder to shoulder with Dany-boy? Or are you going to be sitting at home watching on TV or on the internet?
Jun 15th, 2012 - 07:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 42 You want proof dickhead I'll give you my facebook page if you want i'm not scared will you give me yours
Jun 15th, 2012 - 07:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No ..thanks............
Jun 15th, 2012 - 08:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I dont use Facebook-- Twitter..............
I listen the islands............
@slattzzz
Jun 15th, 2012 - 09:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well mate if you really were in service you should know that a war with Argentina wouldn’t be so easy as poster here try to show. And UK will be badly hurt, let’s be fair both sides will be badly hurt and the entire little Island infrastructure will be destroyed.
So the key point here is who is more willing to take losses, how long the conflict will last and logistic matters.
So people here screaming to bomb Buenos Aires shows just the level of ignorance and stupidity they have.
See you later,
But guys, you are talking about the infamous Dunni-Burger, the man who (he says) has fired one of your countries fully automatic FALs but never admitted to hitting anything with it! The person who says there are 3 million civilian armed fighters waiting to kill the British troops!
Jun 15th, 2012 - 09:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He is obviously a man of complete stupidity. It will NEVER come to troops on Argentina soil: it will be land attack missiles, launched from a submarine or surface ship. Destruction of the Patagonian oilfields, the hydro-electric installations and main civilian services depots such as transport, etc. Loss of life, yes, but not British lives. Complete devastation for BsAs supplies. Complete chaos for the government and civilian population alike.
Carlos Escude warned of this in his masterpiece The Case Of Argentina which SHOULD BE COMPULSORY READING for your children, NOT the fairy tales about the Falklands (there are STILL no Malvinas).
Anyone who follows the Dunni-Burger aggressive line is going to regret it.
Dany berger I was really in the service and as before just ask and i will give you my facebook profile as i said i have nothing to fear nor am i pretending to be something i'm not. I will tell you again that I probably know more about what would happen in the south atlantic if you get a bit gobby, than you, in fact i've probably forgotten more than you'll ever know, give me your zip code / post code and we''ll be able to deliver a Tomahawk through your letterbox,.............Yes they are that accurate....oh wait you don't believe me. There would be no logistical problems as you'd have no airforce left after day one....want me to go on?
Jun 15th, 2012 - 09:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What a brassy ..sassy..malapert..pert..daft..randy..comments.
Jun 15th, 2012 - 09:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0..36 MurkyThink (#)
Jun 15th, 2012 - 09:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Did you ever see Argentina ?....No
[ please define , see Argentina ]
42 MurkyThink
Not real soldiers,Only
[Please define, real soldiers, from the argentine prospective please ? ]
45 MurkyThink
I don’t use Face book-- Twitter..............
I listen the islands............
Please define, listen to the islands ,
1, with hearing aids
2, on the radio
3, on the TV
4, on starlight
Please define [listen]
Oh you are a clever boy,
We bow to your experience.
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yeah thanks Musty stink night night daft arse
Jun 15th, 2012 - 09:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentia take this as The first Yellow Card its warning! The next could be RED! Looked what happened the last time you were shown the RED CARD by the UK! You got a Slapping! Looks like you might have another coming don't you people ever learn guess not it must be the Daggo mentality, you need to back off while you can still save face! Maybe the UK will bring HMS Plymouth back so you can sign your surrender of the Falkland Islands for a second time in her Wardroom! Guess once was not enough for you!
Jun 15th, 2012 - 09:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0like lambs to the slaughter,
Jun 15th, 2012 - 10:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0they never learn untill they are served , carved , and eaten.
self determination , oh yeahh like the one for the Chagossians ??
Jun 15th, 2012 - 11:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0hipocritas ...
@BritishguyfromLondon
Jun 16th, 2012 - 06:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0Always fighting a nation like Argentina or Brazil will involve a major military operation what is more than your mouth can bite.
“Falkland Islands defences are more than enough to stop both your Navy and Air Force”
Only an ignorant can say that.
@MurkyThink
Yeah! You are absolute right internet soldiers with no clue about what they are talking about. Just CaMoron’s propaganda consumers. Even their MoD is telling them “Idiots we cannot fight with Argentina” Ha ha
@slattzzz
Agh! Another mate living in fantasyland.
I don’t need to google anything as you clear show your lack of knowledge of your own military falsities.
UK doesn’t owns sat to render HQ render imaginary to be used even for commercial purpose the TopSat (low cost sat for dummies) at least is 20 years backward of Argies sat technology.
Your sats looks like a toy made in a garage ha ha! Are you living in planet Earth?
http://media.defenseindustrydaily.com/images/SPAC_TopSat_Construction.gif
Now let’s see what Argentine CONAE and IVAP builds:
SAC-D/Aquarius the unique sat in the world able to trace salinity and other imaginary of the size of a spoon from sky. Completed designed and build in Argentina for an international project owned by Argentina, USA and Brazil.
http://media.defenseindustrydaily.com/images/SPAC_TopSat_Construction.gif
So I will advice you to use google map Api its free and at least you can see something on it. Ha ha
So stop consuming UK’s media propaganda and get real.
Britain's first spy satellite is cheap option ha ha ha ha ha hah ahhhhhhhhhh
http://media.defenseindustrydaily.com/images/SPAC_TopSat_Construction.gif
Just a joke
Ha ha I like the “post code and we''ll be able to deliver a Tomahawk through your letterbox”
Ha ha Are you going to use Royal Mail for the delivery or UPS? Ha ha
Now what can I geortargeting you? Because I guess we have fast delivery to Southampton, Brixton, Clapham Juction, and Stanley all flat fee.
Ha ha
We have a Destroyer which is more than capable of taking down your more modern fighters thanks to the SAMPSON radar system. The fighter jets on the ground will run rings around the older fighters from the sixtes. As for the navy, you only have four ships that are of any worth in combat - the Almirante Brown 'destroyers' (your military calls them destroyers but they're smaller than Britain's frigates). The Dauntless should have little trouble with them thanks to its large gun and the Lynx helicopter armed with Sea Skua missiles (Then again, the Type-45's will likely undergo a refit soon to fit-out the anti-ship missile systems which are currently not in use). And if the Dauntless does need help, there's a high probability that there's a Trafalgar-class submarine hanging around in the vicinity armed with Spearfish missiles so fast and quiet that the first thing your vessels will know about it is the large hole in their hulls. What I said Dany, was not ignorance - it was merely a statement of fact.
Jun 16th, 2012 - 11:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0P.S I never said anything about fighting Brazil - they wouldn't be stupid enough to launch an attack alongside Argentina (Brazil, unlike Argentina, still has a decent international reputation to protect).
@55 Here's a tip, smartass. For a Vanguard SSBN sailing to the east or west of London, Buenos Aires is WITHIN RANGE of a Trident D5 missile. It/they will arrive approximately 30 minutes after firing. The missiles CANNOT be intercepted by any known means due to their terminal velocity and the material from which they are constructed. And don't make the common mistake that Britain cannot fire without United States permission. We “might” consult. But we don't have to ask and we don't need permission. WE don't NEED to SEE. And you won't be able to. Now laugh yourself silly over THAT. You too can be a shadow etched onto a wall.
Jun 16th, 2012 - 03:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And BritishguyfromLondon is accurate. HMS Dauntless, by itself, can locate, target and DESTROY more targets than 5 Type 42 destroyers operating together. The targets can be aircraft or missiles. Dauntless can draw a circle around itself 150 miles in diameter in which nothing airborne can live. If there is a Trafalgar class submarine in the area, it carries 30 weapons. Before it sails off to “somewhere” to be reloaded. Those 30 weapons? Well, in your part of the world, it doesn't really need torpedoes. But it “might” carry 5 Spearfish heavyweight 150km/h torpedoes. The rest will be Tomahawk Land Attack cruise missiles. Each missile is a 450 kg warhead plus any unused fuel. There is no record of any Tomahawk missile ever being intercepted. In addition, Typhoon aircraft will arrive equipped with Storm Shadow and Brimstone air to surface and Sidewinder, AMRAAM and ASRAAM air to air missiles. You remember the Sidewinder from 1982, don't you? Our Harriers used them a lot. The AMRAAMs and ASRAAMs are later and better. Watch out for the ones that are “beyond visual range”. Out of consideration for Uruguay, shall we let your war(snigger)ships clear the River Plate before we sink them?
And, like Britishguy, this is not ignorance. These are FACTS.
54 hipolyte
Jun 16th, 2012 - 06:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you have yours , do you not ,
so stop moaning .
#47
Jun 16th, 2012 - 07:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I read “The case of Argentina” by Carlos Escude by googling it.
It was heavy going but does explain a lot about the Argentine mind set.
Delusion comes to mind.
As the Jesuits said-“ give me the child and he will be mine for life”
I would like our Argie “friends” to read this in its entirety and comment rationally on its contents without the usual banal Jajaja PIRATS LOSERS ETC.
@BritishguyfromLondon
Jun 16th, 2012 - 08:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Another mate living in fantasyland and UK propaganda consumer for the masses.
Are you going to use yours your sophisticate sats B&W with webcam quality render for geotargeting too?
I’m so impressed.
I don’t want to embarrass you in a pubic forum but you don’t give me other option mate.
Media propaganda to make you feel better and powerful and advanced nation.
Britain's first spy satellite ha ha ha
http://media.defenseindustrydaily.com/images/SPAC_TopSat_Construction.gif
Do you really believe that?
A micro sat with 20 year old tech like any uni can make for experimental purposes costing 12MP.
Hello XXI century now none needs even to get closer to 200KM to hit your floating stuff from a plane while watching your face on TV screaming WTF was that?
Get real please because on this days floating stuff are not safe anyway they can be sunk from 1000 km away.
So can we talk about something you can really talk about please?
For example kebabs?
How much are costing them in London now?
@Conqueror
You are so ignorant and stupid that really don’t worth to answer you.
Write your idea to your MoD and wait for their answer why you cannot do that and what would be the consequences to little poor Britain after doing such move.
Will you please?
@60
Jun 17th, 2012 - 12:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0If you don't believe Conqueror you are in for a nasty suprise, as he hasn't mentioned that in addition to our hardware we still have Tornado GR4's.
I know that Argentina will soon be frustrated enough to launch a Super Etendard attack on targets around the Falkland Islands,and they will join the rest of the Argentine air force from 1982 currently decorating the sea bed, or Falkland Islands countryside as tourist attractions. Regardless of whether we have a sub in the S. A. or not the Etendard airbase will be no more in less than three days, plus any airbases within Tornado range from the Falkland Islands.
There is nothing your Latin American buddies can do about it either.
The Argentines were scared of a prince in an unarmed yellow helicopter, so they are going to shit thermselves stupid if we send aircraft that aren't painted yellow.
@Pete Bog
Jun 17th, 2012 - 03:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0Another Internet warrior still living in 1982 in the countryside.
BTW have you ever used a modern elevator in your entire life?
62 DanyBerger
Jun 17th, 2012 - 10:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0Meanwhile back on earth, there is no possibility of S America never mind Argentina winning a military confrontation with Britain.
And the rest of S America know this, and with the possible exception Venezuela they are not going to fight the British for you.
For us kebabs are cheap, although for the same amount money you will soon be able to buy a suburb of BA, or a chunk of Patagonia.
@60 Pot, kettle, black. No answer then? There are already MoD plans that embody all the elements I have mentioned. I can't tell you how I know, because then I'd have to have you “eliminated”. By the way, have you checked around you when you're walking down the street? That guy, 50 metres behind you. Is he one of yours, or one of OURS? Do you know what a SAS operator looks like when they aren't in combat gear? Or the SBS? Or the SIS? I mean, you do “know” that YOU and most of your compatriots that come on here have been potential “targets” for some time, don't you? Why do you think we have GCHQ?
Jun 17th, 2012 - 05:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@62 Yes, it's called a Chinook. Other modern elevators used= Merlins and the slightly older Puma. Unfortunately not an Apache, Prince Harry flies those. None of them painted yellow.
Jun 17th, 2012 - 10:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Argentines were scared of a prince in an unarmed yellow helicopter, so they are going to shit themselves stupid if we send aircraft that aren't painted yellow. However they will not know they have been until the UK tarmac stripping service has departed.
But hey, you have Super Etendards from the 1980s right? And when KFC gets bored with 'give peace a chance,' her salad dodging son, and Timmerman will persuade her to use the SE's as a last saloon chance in her spaghetti western.
Cue permanent removal of threat to Falkland Islanders.
@Pugol-H
Jun 18th, 2012 - 06:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ha ha Pugol Ask Sandy.
“If the Falklands are ever captured by Argentina it will be impossible to win them back, says Woodward. “We could not retake the Falklands. We could not send a task force or even an aircraft carrier. If we had been in this state in 1982, the Falklands would be the Malvinas. We rely on sending reinforcements by air, but that would be impossible if we lost control of the airfield at Mount Pleasant.”
“If the Argentines had held out for another week on land then we would probably have lost it. Our people were in the open. It was snowing. The sheer wear and tear of two months at sea in vile conditions meant our ships were wearing out. The offshore group was on its last gasp. It was as close as that.”
Admiral Sir John Forster Woodward.
@Conqueror
“I can't tell you how I know, because then I'd have to have you “eliminated””
“That guy, 50 metres behind you. Is he one of yours, or one of OURS? Do you know what a SAS operator looks like when they aren't in combat gear? Or the SBS? Or the SIS? I mean, you do “know” that YOU and most of your compatriots that come on here have been potential “targets” for some time, don't you? Why do you think we have GCHQ?”
Oh! bloody ‘ell I knew it that the 50 metres guy behind me with turban and eating a strange sandwich wasn’t argie.
Was you?
@ Pete Bog
And?
#66
Jun 18th, 2012 - 06:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How are you going to take control of Mt.Pleasant airfield?
I presume the UK troops guarding it will roll over and surrender to the heroic Argentinian heroes. Dream on !
The Argentinians did not hold out another week. They caved in and ran for Port Stanley. They then had the sense to surrender, were treated humanely by the British victors, fed clothed and repatriated in luxury vessels back to the Argentine where they were given an ecstatic welcome by your government.
@Clyde15
Jun 19th, 2012 - 07:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0And what do you think they can do?
#68
Jun 19th, 2012 - 09:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0Sorry, but I do not understand your question. Whom do you mean by they
The premise was “if” but it did not happen.
Yes, the Admiral is quite correct in saying that , at present, the UK could not mount the same military campaign as it did in 1982.
So, the alternative is to build a large airfield (done), keep a garrison there to protect the Islands from another attack by Argentina(done) and bring in reinforcements by air. At present, Argentina does not have the military capacity to take and hold Mt. Pleasant airfield. It would be a suicide mission even if they managed to get there.
The UK is at present downsizing the Royal Navy. Ships are being taken out of commission and personnel are being made redundant.
The Admiral is trying to make a case for his service by making hypothetical pronouncements on any possible future actions. In effect he is trying to make a case for the RN to be upgraded and excluded from defence cuts.
Military commanders are nearly always trying to fight any new war on the same basis as the old ones.
As to the rest of the posting, I have no idea what it is about.
@Clyde15
Jun 20th, 2012 - 03:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0Really? Wow!
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