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Do human beings not have human rights if they reside on a piece of land that Argentina wants?
The first petitioner for the Falkland Islands MLA Roger Edwards before the UN Decolonization Committee said that Argentina claims to fight against colonialism yet wishes to annex the Islands and “subject our people to alien subjugation and domination”, which is the very definition of colonialism. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesA great speech and those of us able to see MLA Edwards deliver it via internet will remember it. One of the important speeches that will surely form a key part of Falkland Islands history.
Jun 15th, 2012 - 03:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://lordton1955.wordpress.com/2012/06/15/its-c24-time-again/
Jun 15th, 2012 - 03:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0:-)
MLA Edwards has certainly done his hp
Jun 15th, 2012 - 03:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0omework
MLA Edwards certainly did his homework. Congratulations.
BRAVO ARgentina OLE!
Jun 15th, 2012 - 03:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0Excellent speach,president Kirchner!
Down with the brits pirates!
ARGENTINA 29 ---MAlvinas 0!!
AAHHAAHHAHAHHAHHA
LOSERS!!
great speech and those of us able to see MLA Edwards deliver it via internet will remember it. One of the important speeches that will surely form a key part of Falkland Islands history
Garbage speech by the pirates!!
@4 Lol a great speech? There are bulgy-eyed bag ladies pushing rusted shopping trolleys and ranting about the end of the world that make more sense than your scraggy old president did. One long rambling lie filled with random madness about birds, flowers and Germans. O.o
Jun 15th, 2012 - 03:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0Malv, you are a pig headed, blind fool if you are unable to weigh-up two arguements!
Jun 15th, 2012 - 03:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0Both MLA's hit just the right note, excellent.
Jun 15th, 2012 - 03:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0@4 KFC's speech was rambling and full of made up crap that just isn't true! I fully understand why she's not allowed to do any press conferences in Argentina.
Jun 15th, 2012 - 04:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0Cristina Kirchner attacks UK decision to fly Falklands flag on 30th anniversary of surrender
Jun 15th, 2012 - 04:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0KFC said: “ I felt shame from afar for them because wars are not to be celebrated nor are they to be commemorated. Do you know why? Because many people lost their lives.”
HOWEVER……………………
Monday, April 2nd 2012 - 01:49 UTC
Cristina Fernandez leads main Malvinas war commemoration in Ushuaia
Argentine president Cristina Fernandez will lead on Monday the main ceremony commemorating the 30th anniversary of the beginning of the Malvinas war or South Atlantic conflict, when Argentine troops invaded the Falklands and held them for 74 days until ousted by a British Task Force.
“The Argentine president ATTENDED the CEREMONY at the impressive Malvinas Plaza in Ushuaia with Vice President Amado Boudou, Tierra del Fuego governor Fabiana Rios, members of her cabinet other local and military authorities, foreign delegations plus Malvinas war veterans and next of kin organizations.”
Sorry to all malvinists, but I think I just proved that your Queen is either a liar or a plain lunatic or possibly both !!!!!
So suck that, and try and tell me I am wrong!
Malviner - the Falklands are British. UK win by way of a knock out.
Jun 15th, 2012 - 06:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0':Cristina Kirchner attacks UK decision to fly Falklands flag on 30th anniversary of surrender....Monday, April 2nd 2012 - 01:49 UTC
Jun 15th, 2012 - 06:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0Cristina Fernandez leads main Malvinas war commemoration in Ushuaia
Argentine president Cristina Fernandez will lead on Monday the main ceremony commemorating the 30th anniversary of the beginning of the Malvinas war or South Atlantic conflict, when Argentine troops invaded the Falklands and held them for 74 days until ousted by a British Task Force.'
As I said:
It raises questions about the sincerity of Argentine claims to be 'peace-loving' that Kirchner celebrates on the anniversary of the beginning of a war, not the end.
An excellent speech from MLA Edwards. Not only upstaging CFK, but exposing the members of the C24 for hypocrites that they are! They visit Argentina and listen to their version of events, but won't visit the very place and people that committee was set up to 'protect'.
Jun 15th, 2012 - 06:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0How humiliating for Argentina though. Not only does your President demean your country by attending this minor committee, which no self-respecting senior government official would do let alone a Head of State, but then she gives a completely uninspiring speech, filled with obvious lies and contradictions.
And all the while she is spending tax payers money on frivolities, such as taking out huge advertisements in British newspapers, which will not change the resolve of the British people to protect the people of the Falklands from the train wreck that is Argentina, but strengthen it.
I hope CFK enjoys her shopping trip, again using taxpayers money, probably from the pensions that she stole.
Of course Malv can't see both sides of the argument, he'd have to have some semblance of intelligence to do that, he's no different to the Argentine government in that sense. Neither can construct a logical or reasonable argument to a situation.
Jun 15th, 2012 - 07:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0CFK has lied so spectacularly and so often shes clearly got no idea what she has said previously and contradicts herself on a hilarious scale.
CFK's speech part of Falkland's history? Haha.... We've already forgot about that meaningless bunch of lies and ridiculous points. I laughed almost all the way through it.
Haha!
Simple facts like the existence of Armistice day, and her own celebrations of the beginning of the War in 1982 ... seem to have never existed in her mind.
Jun 15th, 2012 - 07:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0It shows what level of intellect you're talking about here.
Great speech by MLA Edwards exposing the hypocrisy of the C24. The lies told by the Argentines spell the begginning of the end for their campaign to colonise the Falkland Islands. The C24 headed by Syria, a joke in itself is a mickeymouse outfit. Everytime the Argentines spout a lie it will hopefully now be more robustly challenged by the Falkland Islanders using facts. My opinion is that the Islanders have lain dormant for too long, but perhaps UK has not encouraged them enough to take on the foreign policy part of the relationship. If the world keeps ignoring the islanders, they can keep quoting the UN principles that the C24 themselves ignore-thus proving what a useless organisation the Un is.
Jun 15th, 2012 - 09:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0@15 I think you're right. The islanders have been silent for too long. It's about time they tell the UN that this committee is serving no one on the list. NZ already expressed this about Tokelau on several occasions.
Jun 15th, 2012 - 09:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0The speech by the Syrian guy was most hilarious. The committee was one step away from suggesting the UN Charter was irrelevant, and the Papua New Guinea guy did the right thing by suggesting the Committee was just utter utter rubbish.
It was very good fun to watch, and I suggest the UN sell it on DVD.
Malviner - the Falklands are British. UK win by way of a knock out.
Jun 15th, 2012 - 10:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0Still we gave you hell.brit prick!
Papua New Guinea guy did the right thing by suggesting the Committee was just utter utter rubbish
Even that the MAlvinenses are losing.....
They are finished
Listening to those squatters summers,and edward was PATHETIC!!
Bye bye losers!
AHAHAHHAHAHHAHHHHAAH
keep spending money to NO AVAIL!
@17 I guess you didn't watch it then.
Jun 15th, 2012 - 10:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0@4 Kirchner - whingeing ninny. Rambling, disjointed and irrelevent. And so was her speech!
Jun 15th, 2012 - 10:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0@17 At least we all HAVE money!
Is it just me , but does anyone else find it strange, know matter what view you have over the islands, that the UN are sending observers to Syria to try to halt his massacre of his own people , but they sit on this liitle committee ..
Jun 15th, 2012 - 10:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0Roger Edwards was very critical of Argentina and the C24
Jun 15th, 2012 - 11:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0the C24 is a very Biased organisation or at least appeared to be. with a larger then average formed from latin america it self. who clearly have views that are counter productive.
it would be more fair if the Representative involved had had more experience in tune with each country that “needs” decolonizing in the case of the Falklands i would suggest country's that are neutral to the Falkland island issue who have high regard for how the UN works
personally i don't see why decolonization is necessary. i feel the islands (Falklands and any other territory's that wish to remain with the UK) should be permanently integrated in to the UK and in the case of Argentina remove all diplomatic ties until they accept its our way or the highway
i feel the UN is obsessed with Decolonization and these liberation movement will calm down in time. UK and territory's are happy with the statue quo all others be damned
@20 It's not strange when you check out all the other members of the committee.
Jun 15th, 2012 - 11:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0I personally thought the Syrian guy lecturing the UK on human rights, and trying to undermine the relevance of a referendum was hilarious.
You cannot buy comedy like that.
Malvinero- a simple question to you - Your presdident stated she wants to just sit and talk - please will you explain to me then WHY did she and Timmerman REFUSE to accept a letter from the Islands democratically Elected Representatives to do just that?
Jun 15th, 2012 - 11:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0Even she and Timerman has maintained they will at least consider our interests. - How the hell cam you with out at least listening to and discussing them!!!!
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@23 Because she's a unashamed hypocrite who's words aren't worth listening to?
Jun 15th, 2012 - 12:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As stated by the chair of the C24 commite, this is an issue of soverignity and not decolonisation therefore the draft resolution is null and void as
Jun 15th, 2012 - 12:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0a) The c24 only has remit to discuss and issue reoslutions ataining to decolonisation not soveringity disputes
b) It is not in compliance with the UN charter
Argentine have won nothing other than another trip to the UN next year to repeat the same tired lies and contridictory statements. Such as all we want to do is talk but we will not accept an offer to do so when invited by the FLC. The UK will continue to ingore these illegal resolution untill a time comes in which the Islanders ask the UK government to talk to the Argentine government. Lets get this straight Argentine and its despot freinds in SA have absolutly no way to enforce any talks what so ever and will spend the rest of their existence moaning about lack of prgoress, you are no closer to taking the islands than you were 30 years ago.
Didn´t the Spanish original inhabitants in Gibraltar have rights before the Brits expelled them from their homeland and conquered their land, Mr Edwards? If the the people of the Falklands have rights where are the rights of the original inhabitants of Gibraltar?
Jun 15th, 2012 - 12:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The sooner the argentine UN is scrapped, the better,
Jun 15th, 2012 - 12:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0its run by her indocrinoughts, and a bloody disgrace it is,
this commitee, should be scrapped,
so why isnt it,,
@27 What about the rights of the original inhabitants of La Pampa and Patagonia? Oh yes, that's right... you genocided them all. Because let's face it, you just don't seem to understand people live in these places, and it's just what you plan to do with the falklanders.
Jun 15th, 2012 - 12:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That's why you ignore them. You disgusting rodent.
You disgust me.
@27 You know absoutly nothing about history obviously. The inhabitants of Gibraltar were never removed by force. Spain signed the terrotory over the British Crown as part of the treaty of Utrect.
Jun 15th, 2012 - 01:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0By the way the Spanish or the Kingdom of Castille (there was no unified Spain) actually removed the African Moors by force in 1462.
So why exacly do Spain have any claim???
@23Islander1
Jun 15th, 2012 - 01:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You have an excellent point there, one which will not be missed by a lot of people, in the UN and elsewhere. Major, major diplomatic, blunder by the Argentines, yet another one in a long list of diplomatic blunders.
@31 He called her a hypocrite, and then she acted like a hypocrite.
Jun 15th, 2012 - 01:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What else is there to say?
nothing .
Jun 15th, 2012 - 01:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@27 aussie sunshine
Jun 15th, 2012 - 01:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why do you thick git's insist on quoting things you know absolutely nothing about.
29 Where are all the rights of all the Indians that you wiped out !?
Jun 15th, 2012 - 02:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0From the Americas, through Africa and down to Australia.
Pick up a map of The Americas..yes go on!! pick it up!!
Where are the largest representation of Indian population and where
are there hardly any Indians?? I don´t have to answer this for you,
do I? you silly pea brain.
That is right the Indian populations are in Central and South
America..colonies of The Spanish. AND
the Indian colonies in NOrth America are mainly in the South West
region run by THe Spanish and Mexicans.
@34 And I suppose you know everything!!
@ 32 Did you finish school?? or are you of these people that learnt
nothing in class? Let me enlighten you..Spain become unified in 1492 when
Spain kicked out the last remaining moors from Spain ( some year
That the Spanish discovered America.
And the winners in a war can and will remove you whether you want or not..and in this case the Spanish Inhabitants were removed by
force ...much easier if you have a little paper saying you have the
right--something like that little paper that Neville Chamberlain
signed with Hitler which later Hitler used (the paper) as dunny
paper...well the same here...
@35 I feel compelled to respond to your faggootery...
Jun 15th, 2012 - 02:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0a) The largest population of Indians in is India.
b) No one in the Falklands was removed by force, other than the military who mutinied. The Vernet's community, which asked the UK to settled on the Falklands, failed and they left.
c) Argentina routinely slaughtered their native population and continue to allow them to starve, as has been in the press regularly.
@35
Jun 15th, 2012 - 02:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Apoligise I got my dates slightly mixed up however it still does not remove the fact that Spain dispelled a population of Moors from Gibraltor so they have rightfull claim not Spain. Spain removed the Moors by force or are you prospoing that as non Christians they have no rights.
Again Spain ceeded Gibraltar in a treaty in return for British acceptance of Philip V as king of Spain at this point spain lost all rights to area.
You are wrong also in stating the larget concentration of native American tribes are from the South and South West of the USA. the 2000 census records show that the top 10 native tribes are.
1. Navajo Nation (Ariz.-N.M.-Utah) 175,228 2. Cherokee (Okla.) 104,482 3. Creek (Okla.) 77,253 4. Lumbee (N.C.) 62,327 5. Choctaw (Okla.) 39,984 6. Cook Inlet (Alaska) 35,972 7. Chickasaw (Okla.) 32,372 8. Calista (Alaska) 20,353 9. United Houma Nation (La.) 15,305 10. Sealaska (Alaska) 15,059
Only 1 of which is the area you mentioned, and althought it is the biggest the others far exceed it in population.
Are you denying that General Roca commited genocide in the 1870 (approx 50 years after the events of 1833) when he clensed the pampas and Patagonia and then implanted a population from the Unitd Prov of the Rio Plata?
@27 aussie sunshine
Jun 15th, 2012 - 02:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So what about the rights of the original inhabitants of Australia and Argentina then.
Or do you like being a planter too much for that!
How far back do you want go with this?
This has been going on since the dawn of human history, in history no one is innocent or they would not be here today
The issue is about people’s rights TODAY.
For Argentina to claim they had the right to De-colonise themselves, but the Islanders do not is pure hypocrisy.
Talk of “implanted populations” from Argintines is simply laughable.
A completely fictional version of history from Argentina.
And a completely, morally bankrupt argument.
@37 The Navajos nation (Arizona/New Mexico/ Utah are from
Jun 15th, 2012 - 02:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The South West Of the USA. The Navajos were named by the
Spanish. I am sure This General Roca commited genocide but so did other nations in the name of Empires.
Cheers
As usuall he tells the half of the question, and omits what is not convenient for his posture, like most policticians do, cristina did the same.
Jun 15th, 2012 - 03:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Fisrtly, it's true that the whole population from the islands wasn't expelled in 1833, but rogers omits that our authorities were forced to leave the islands (commander jose maria pinedo), and was lowered the argentine flag, what the u. k did that day, was to deprive argentina of exercising it's rights which were based on the succession of states, thats' omited by rogers too. On the other hand, it's true that after 1850 untill 1884, our country didn't claim for the islands, but it's also true that the convention of settlement of 1850 didn't have anything to do with the dispute for the islands, it was related to the rasing of the blockade only. Beside, between 1884 and 1888, arg. suggested the u. k to take the question to the arbitration, which was rejected by the u. k, on the other hand, in none of the answers by the government of her british majesty the u. k didn't even mention the convention of 1850. It's hightly arguable to invoke that treaty because in 1968 1973 and 1980 the u. k tried to start negotiations with argentina with the purpose of finishing with this dispute, so, the actions of the u. k dont help it to invoke the convention of 1850. In fact cristina yesterday read before everyone the public documents that are found at our chancery, that are related to the negotiations between arg. and the u. k before peron's death. Anyway cristina omitted the silences of our country between 1850 and 1884, and didn't say a word about the readley's mission of 1980.
On the other hand, the u. n didn't ask yesterday the u. k to return the islands to arg., in fact it has never done it. It means that if the islanders want to remain under british government, nobody can change that, but it doesn't mean that we can't find a fair solution for all the parts, maybe thats' something that enather rogers nor all the rest of the l. a want.
@36 link.org.au/node/753
Jun 15th, 2012 - 03:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@39 I am pretty sure I stated that 1 of the top 10 tribes were from the South West.
Jun 15th, 2012 - 03:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Only 1 of which is the area you mentioned, and althought it is the biggest the others far exceed it in population” oh yea there it was.
However your statement that majority of natives are from the areas of the USA orginally governed by the Spanish was incorrect was it not?
The difference is that the UK is not currency attemping to colonise anywhere, where as the Argentines are currently attmeping the colonisation (by definition) of the Falklands.
The point of many on here is that for Argentine to call the British evil for our colonial past is hypocritcal as Argentine has the same deamons. I do not deny britains colonial past, the argentine government believes it to be a good thing (the conquest of the desert is celebrated on the 100 peso note)
@ 40 axel arg
Jun 15th, 2012 - 03:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What the British did that day was to recover what had long been British territory.
You cannot argue “the succession of states” over territory you have illegally seized in the first instance.
This is a case of “the succession of failures”.
Argentina being no more successful in stealing that British territory than the Spanish, French or Dutch before them.
The convention of settlement 1850, settled ALL disputes between Britain and Argentina, by definition including the Falklands issue.
As usual you try and completely misrepresent history, and completely omit the moral issue of today, thinking no one will notice.
Nothing can remove or negate the Islanders rights under the UN convention.
Think again.
@43 What I cannot seem to get past is the following:
Jun 15th, 2012 - 04:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0a) Argentinians seem incapable of understanding that they are an implanted population given the Conquest of the Desert pretty much destroyed all life other than that brought in.
b) The British claim for the Falklands from 1700's. Claiming we ejected people who were there legally is just utter utter nonsense.
c) Are they not aware that negotiations in 1850 were clearly then ignored by the Argentines making our trust of them with regards to sovereignty, approximately zero.
Seriously, are Argentines really this imbecilic? They seem incapable of absorbing any kind of objective fact. Do they not understand that they're not trustworthy?
very well said
Jun 15th, 2012 - 04:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0After listening to the C24 committee last night, I am completely comfortable with the UK stance of having nothing to do with it or the Argentines. That committee was corrupt and biased and deserves to utterly ignored and disassociated with. The referendum next year will cause this committee and the Argentines no end of problems, as to deny it would be to deny the absolute basic human right of all of us. Perhaps the Syrian representative could be the chairman next year if he isn't in the Hague for war crimes.
Jun 15th, 2012 - 04:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@40 Axel
Jun 15th, 2012 - 05:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Frankly everyone has given up any hope of talking to the present Arg government as there is now so little trust of CFK and her cronies
I hope at some point ther may be more constructive dialogue regarding mutual co operation etc but I think that has been put back 10 years
Deciding the fate of a people in modern context by arcane points of law from the late 18th and early 19th century is faintly ridiculous. The Falklands would probably be on the road to full independence if they didn't feel there was a military threat hanging over their heads
@40 Axel- I can't understand your notion of succesion of states. I presume you mean that Argentina inherited what Spain claimed after Argentina's independence?
Jun 15th, 2012 - 05:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Can you provide the link to documents where Spain transfered sovereignity of the Falkland Islands to Argentina? Presumably these documents would be dated 1816, although I understood that Argentina was not a country (seperate from Uraguay) until the mid-1880s
And if so, why did Spain continue to claim sovereignity of the Falkland |Islands well into the 1880s?
Can you remind me which date Spain recognised Argentina? So as Uraguay was a part of the United Provinces of the River Plate, why did they not have a successsion claim to the Falkland Islands after 1816?
The British had a claim on the Islands from 1765 and did not relinquish it, so Pinedo's men were seen as illegitimate, as , unlike Vernet's settlers, they had not recieved permission from the British Government to be there.
@40 “Succession of states” wasn't accepted until 20th century. Scotch that one. YOU say that the Arana-Southern Treaty only relates to the raising of the blockade. So why, in 1866, did the vice-president of argieland inform his Congress that the ONLY dispute outstanding between argieland and Britain was compensation owed by argieland to English citizens? Why would Britain agree to arbitration over a dispute that no longer existed? As I recall, argieland's suggested arbitrator was Paraguay. Joke! Can I also point out that argieland also didn't raise the matter again between 1884 and 1941? When argieland thought Britain was going to lose WW2. There's a perfectly fair solution to hand for argieland. Grow up! It's like a little child who has its heart set on a particular toy. It demands and whines and whinges and then, after a while, it forgets all about it. Then it finds some other reason to try to get the toy and starts demanding, whining and whingeing again.
Jun 15th, 2012 - 06:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Besides, over on another article TiT (Truth_Telling_Troll) has already virtually admitted that the Falklands has nothing argieland wants and CFK has been lying through her teeth.
we heard that the native America indians ,
Jun 15th, 2012 - 09:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0may have been [ vikins]
from arround the 14/15 centuries,
mmmm
THIS IS VERY TRUE!!!! THEY NEED THE SAME LESSON THEY GOT 30 YEARS AGO ! IT'S THE ONLY THING THESE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND OR EVER WILL UNDERSTAND! THE FALKLAND ISLANDS ARE INDEPENDANT & BRITISH AND WANT TO STAY THAT WAY AS IS THEIR RIGHT! TRESSPASSERS & INVADERS WILL BE SHOOT ON SIGHT !
Jun 15th, 2012 - 09:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There is no need to invade. The Blockade is beginning to be felt.
Jun 15th, 2012 - 10:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There is a lot of moaning from the British side which indicates that something is biting hard .
@ Brit Abroad #9
Jun 16th, 2012 - 03:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0Too right mate. According to Argentine logic;
1) celebrating the cessation of hostilities (i.e. Liberation Day) is offensive and glorifies the war, as opposed to celebrating the commencement of hostilities (i.e. Argentina's celebrations of April 2nd)
2) Flying the Falkland Island flag in a show of solidarity is cause for shame and disgust, whereas having your nations citizens burn British flags and generally act like they were in the Middle East during the Arab Spring is perfectly acceptable
CFK and Argentina in general is the dictionary definition of the pot calling the kettle black.
@Aussie Sunshine #all of your posts
Go to the kiddies table to talk mate, the grownups are trying to have a sensible conversation here.
The only moaning going on about this issue is coming from Latin America. Britain is continuing to act in a gentlemanly and refined manner, while the various TPLSACs (To paraphrase 'Yes Minister') prattle on like some bratty little child.
@52 aussie sunshine
Jun 16th, 2012 - 09:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0Really? What is your evidence for this?
The effectiveness of the illegal blockade is, with all due respect (ie none at all) not anything that you would know anything at all about; so you are as usual just spouting your usual drivel.
So when are we getting a full transcript of Cristina's speech on mercopress??
Jun 16th, 2012 - 11:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0BK
Jun 16th, 2012 - 12:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your peronalised, autographed copy, is winging its way to you as we speak.
Complete with a life times free subscription to the KFC fan club. Sources have it that you are going to be invited to hold the venerable post of President of the UK branch. May I be the first to offer you my heartfelt and sincere congratulations. I do hope this life changing honour will adversly affect you.
Just remember, we knew you on here when you were still a normal person.
@27 The “original” inhabitants of Gibraltar weren't expelled. Being Spanish, they fled. But wouldn't you like to consider the “rights” of the Phoenicians, the Carthaginians, the Romans, the Vandals, the Visigoths and the Moors?
Jun 16th, 2012 - 02:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@35 Yeah, it's a shame that Americans wiped out so many of the North American Indians. And SUCH a shame that the Spanish, and to a lesser extent the Portuguese, thought it reasonable to exterminate up to 100 million South American Indians. And so nice to know that the winners in a war have the right to “remove” any of those there before that they don't want. Must remember that next time WE have 11,000 plus latin american “prisoners”. What say we fly them “toward” the continent, dropping one or two hundred off each mile?
@55 You get on here. Why would we want any more drivelling garbage?
@56 Its never been either “normal” or a “person”.
56 reality check
Jun 16th, 2012 - 05:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Now I know you are taking the urine. Blind_Kirchnerist (he must be, he thinks The Mad Bitch is beautiful) has never been normal.
He is after all an unreconstructed communist in the traditional Old Labour (Scotland) ilk. It is not really a surprise he fancies some old tart who cannot hold an intelligent conversation in any language, nevermind English.
All the women he has personally known have the same traits!
I suspect he is waiting for all the Brits on here to club together to pay for his airfare to his beloved Argentina.
Hang on, it may even be worth it to get rid of him once and for all: knife in the guts in front of the war memorial again?
British people can deside for themselves in Britain but all illegal aliens will be deported. If USA and UK can deport illegal aliens I don't see why we should put up with the bias attitudes and dubble standards of the English community, I think slavery and racism are illegal and we will not let this pigs keep up with a stone age colonial attitudes, I say we send them all back home in a boat or a body bag, whichever comes first.
Jun 16th, 2012 - 09:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@59 “I don't see why we should put up with the bias attitudes and dubble standards of the English community,”
Jun 17th, 2012 - 12:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0What about the Scottish, St Helenian, Argentine, Chilean Canadian, and Falkland Islander communities on the Falkland Islands??
As the Falkland Islands are a multi-cultural society I probably have missed some of the communities out. Any FI's there who can enlighten further on this?
@59PH
Jun 17th, 2012 - 09:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0Let me see now, have I got this right, you would advocate and support ethnic cleansing of the current population of the Islands?
If that is the case, then can I just say this. The body bags you talk about, you are certainly going to need a plentiful supply of them, because before any Brit stands by and lets you, or any one else, ethnically cleans their people, they are going to do their damnest to fill them for you!
Oh and please, at least have the courtesy to equip the future contents of those bags with “Dog tags” this time. Even a dead war criminal is entitled to have his name on his grave marker.
That's right, war criminal, any soldier why invades a land and cleanses it of the inhabitants is a war criminal. Niced to see you have no scruples about supporting that.
Argintine history is all about the ethnic cleansing of native poplations, and the implanting of Argintine ones.
Jun 17th, 2012 - 11:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0So no change there then.
@59 Any “illegal aliens” in the Falklands are likely to be argies who have sneaked ashore in rubber boats in the middle of the night. Did you issue them with body bags? If not, they'll probably be returning in much the same state as they arrived. Plus the bullet holes. You need to remember that, according to at least one of your compatriots, “u.k. is FINISHED.” so we can only afford body bags for our own. Under the new “Accelerated Argie Deportation” procedure, such “individuals” are loaded aboard the next available outbound Royal Navy vessel. At the outer limit of recognised argie territorial waters, they are tossed overboard. There has been a recent minority suggestion that attempts should be made to ensure that they are dead first, but this doesn't have much support.
Jun 17th, 2012 - 05:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hypothetical: France takes over the Isle of Wight this month by force. Over the next 20, 30 or more years, the population, coming from France, becomes entirely French speraking with ties to France. The UK keeps pressing for the return of the island, but France regularly sends warships to protect their island (now names île du fromage). When the UK wants to negotiate with France over the island, France refuses and says talk to the French people on the island directly. So all you UK supporters in this comment section would agree that the UK should talk directly to the French people on the Isle of Wight and not with the government of France? And when France conducts a poll, 95% of the population wants to be allied with France, not the UK - is that poll relevant at all? You promise that in this hypothetical you would support negotiating directly with the French speaking population of the Isle of Wight, and you would drop all claims to the island should they vote to be with France (after all it's about their human rights). Not to mention the French people in forums mention that the UK economy sucks, so all the more reason that the UK should drop their silly demands for the return of the Isle of Wight. (and you agree with that point, as well as many other comments about the UK prime minister having had plastic surgery...)
Jun 17th, 2012 - 10:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The UK stole the Falklands/Malvinas, they won't give it back. Too much time has passed. Period. But please smirk with discretion, high five in private, but enough with the hypocritical self righteous indignation. Please.
@63 Will help the Stinker and Seagull community no end as their beaks and heads are covered in blood and guts, but have difficulty deciding whether the birds gorging on the illegal aliens would be Argentine or Falkland birds under the new cutting edge RG theory that seabirds now determine sovereignty.
Jun 17th, 2012 - 10:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@64 physiwg
Jun 18th, 2012 - 08:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Actually they are called the Channel Islands, except the French don’t question the Islanders right to decide their own future.
Any more that the British would in your scenario “île du fromage”
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