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Argentine government denies any re-re-election plan; opposition don’t believe them even if written on stone
Argentine President Cristina Fernandez main political spokesperson, Senator Alberto Fernández assured that the government has no plans of carrying out a constitutional reform and said that speculation about the 2013 legislative elections is “obscene.” Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesI'm in two minds about this. While I'm sure the Falklanders would like a break from a ranting Argentine president - what would we do for entertainment if she reconciled to the fact that her day is done and her efforts failed?
Jun 18th, 2012 - 08:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0Given she ignored the Constitution when 'taking' YPF... why are they even concerned about her paying any heed to the constitution when it comes to her being re-elected as 'eternal leader'?
Jun 18th, 2012 - 10:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0Hasn't that fat nazi git been groomed enough to be leader of their kakistocracy yet?
What kind of “Radicals” see the current constitution as set in stone?! In fact what kind of democrats would support an administrative measure to prevent the people from deciding on their President, barring the overwhelmingly popular and talented candidate?
Jun 18th, 2012 - 11:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0Btw I know he was talking about something else, but Anibal's quote “we are ages away from that. To speak of those matters right now obscene. When the time comes, will see what happens,” in the article should really be the attitude to constitutional reform - it really shouldn't be ruled out at this stage. Maybe if Cristina really doesn't want to stand again they'll be no need for it, but I'd support it anyway on principle
professional liar troops like the ck-gang can nothing be believed.
Jun 18th, 2012 - 11:23 am - Link - Report abuse 02 Greek
Jun 18th, 2012 - 11:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0Enter Maximo, stage left.
Their very own Burger King.
If they change their constitution by only the mechanisms in their constitution, they can do what they like. It seems to me that 2 terms as top dog is a safe guard against the wrong kind of leadership.
Jun 18th, 2012 - 11:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0A KFC leader with the Burger King son presiding over a price fix on the Big Mac.
Jun 18th, 2012 - 11:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0They seem to have the top fast food outlets covered.
Wow a spic who won't take the word of a spic.
Jun 18th, 2012 - 12:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@5,7 He's got a gold-bullion throne, so I guess he just needs a crown. Isn't he the cream-bun king?
Jun 18th, 2012 - 12:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@6,8 This is like the two doors in the great David Bowie film 'Labyrinth', where one of them is lying and the other is telling the truth. And she has to ask what they would say the other one was going to say if she asked them?
Except in this case, it's clear who the liar is and why they even bother getting him to tell lies is beyond me. Why we even read this when we know they don't care about their constitution is beyond me.
She's already ripped it up in everyone's faces... so why bother?
@5
Jun 18th, 2012 - 01:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, some suspect the dauphin Maximo to take over.
@10 I think she's probably tired of being bipolar in public and just wants to take some time off with her medication. So I wouldn't be surprised if he's wheeled out to say obese things in public instead of her.
Jun 18th, 2012 - 01:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0... like 'f***cking give me a f***cking burger covered in butter and one of those eggs, and a f****cking cup-cakes in butter'
Remember whatever they are publicly saying it is in reality the exact opposite.
Jun 18th, 2012 - 01:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In my opinion CFK will not make it through this term. The economic outlook is frightening and there is nothing that can help it now.
@12 I'm expecting her to make it through this term in complete shreds, then Maximo will be offered up as 'Arg-Jesus' to save the holy land, and then he'll completely feck all over them starting from where his mother left off.
Jun 18th, 2012 - 01:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'd put money on it.
She is desperate, and getting more desperate by the day,
Jun 18th, 2012 - 01:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0She has promised the Falklands on a plate and the British at her feet,
So far, all CFK has actually achieved,
Is precisely nothing, zilch , zero , nil ,
She has failed, the so called miracle worker, has turned out to be a back street con merchant .
So why do her loyal puppies follow her,
Answers on a post card please .
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Maybe it's just me, but if you look at the picture of Senator Fernandez, does he look like a cross between Blakey from On the Buses and Inspector Clueso, in a gormless sort of way?
Jun 18th, 2012 - 01:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Or an aged, bitter Luigi from Super Mario.
Jun 18th, 2012 - 02:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0or a descendent of Helmut Schmulzelnstaffel, Butcher of Muntzelburg and commander of the feared SS division Untermenschbootkicken.
Jun 18th, 2012 - 03:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@3 lol yes lets change the constitution so we can become Venezuela.....
Jun 18th, 2012 - 03:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@18 You're already there, so no need to change the constitution [she ignores it anyways].
Jun 18th, 2012 - 04:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I was told just yesterday that “serious” countries like the UK and Spain do not overreact to circumstance, and avoid brouhahas. This was in relation to my suggestion that had the UK sent marines into Argentine soil, like the incident in Gibraltar some years back, they would have been immediately detained, perhaps even fired upon (and we would have been within our right, as the UK would be engaging in an act of war).
Jun 18th, 2012 - 04:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Come to find out this morning, SCOTLAND YARD is investigating David Nalbandian... SCOTLAND YARD. On what is a clear case for local police to handle, a typical case of physical assault (what is atypical is the venue in which the incident took place, that is all).
Can we say a bit too much?
Imagine if a Brit injuring an argie got our Gendarmeria or PFA...
How can you take a country seriously like that.
TTT, they are the local police force in London. Queen's Club is in London.
Jun 18th, 2012 - 05:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@21
Jun 18th, 2012 - 05:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So what does the Metropolitan Police do? Support the British doughnut economy?
The Metropolitan Police are the local London force, they are run from Scotland Yard!!!!!
Jun 18th, 2012 - 05:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well going with the tennis theme, I think that's game, set and match to Simon. Don't kick anything Tobi ;)
Jun 18th, 2012 - 05:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@23
Jun 18th, 2012 - 05:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ok, I thought they were completely separate bodies. It still seems odd they don't delegate what is patently a clear cut case that needs no further “investigating”, everyone admits what happens and there is video. What else is there to sleuth.
Now you know how I see all the Brits and other foreigners here talking anything about Argentina, like they have a clue. The best part is they believe they actually DO know what they are talking about.
Thinking about it, the Nalbandian Incident was a perfect demonstration of the argie mentality.
Jun 18th, 2012 - 05:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Commit an act of pointless violence then try and shirk responsibility and blameshift when the consequences arrive. “It wasn't my fault, it's the ATP who make me play too many tournaments”.
Meanwhile everyone in attendance realises that he/his country are basically childish thugs.
Along with fake history/geography lessons they teach whining, stomping of feet, banging on table to all elementary students. In high school ( for the 50% of the population who get there) they teach gov't corruption, tax avoidance and cowardice oh and another fake history class.
Jun 18th, 2012 - 06:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0:)
Come to find out this morning, SCOTLAND YARD is investigating David Nalbandian... SCOTLAND YARD. On what is a clear case for local police to handle, a typical case of physical assault (what is atypical is the venue in which the incident took place, that is all).
Jun 18th, 2012 - 07:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lslHtH-CVa0
@3 I'm glad to see that you've acquired a sense of humour. “the overwhelmingly popular and talented candidate” AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH! The lying, thieving, incompetent slag!
Jun 18th, 2012 - 07:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@20 Ho, ho, ho. Detain British troops? How are you going to “detain” a British soldier with a bayonet down your throat, another up your arse and a bullet through your head? (Note: I would have said “a bullet through your brain” but I know you don't have any). Were you planning to stand in front of the Challenger 2 MBTs? Squelch!!! As for Nalbandian....having seen the video I trust he will be charged with premeditated aggravated bodily harm, sentenced to 12 months, deported. There is no return to the UK for such individuals for a minimum of 10 years. Be glad we're not argieland. He'd be taking a plane trip, a high dive and a long swim.
@22 It gets rid of foreign scum. One way or another!
@25 You do know that the criminal that you sent to our country is going down, don't you?
@26 Let's bring back birching and the cat'o'nine tails. This animal should only be let out once we've all seen the bone of his spine. Being an argie, that could be difficult to find. Never mind. Just keep going until the cat has cut all the way through!
@British_Kirchnerist
Jun 18th, 2012 - 07:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I guess after the next election, we won't be hearing from you any more?
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Jun 18th, 2012 - 09:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This was in relation to my suggestion that had the UK sent marines into Argentine soil, like the incident in Gibraltar some years back, they would have been immediately detained, perhaps even fired upon (and we would have been within our right
[absolutely right old chap, give your self a bowl of sugar puffs]
Then again,
And quite correctly,
If argentina sent marines onto British soil at Hastings or Bognor Regis,
They would have been immediately detained, perhaps even fired upon (and we would have been within our right,
Yep, so we all agree then .
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IT'S TRUE actually, the Argentine gov has no plans of re-election, because they know their economy is just starting to fall off a cliff, and there'll be no possible hope whatsoever of re-election by the time Cristina leaves office. There won't even be much to be elected president of, by the time they're through with Argentina.
Jun 18th, 2012 - 10:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“arg constitutional reform is not in our agenda”said these troop of thieves....
Jun 18th, 2012 - 10:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0www.lanacion.com.ar/1483063-lanata-presento-a-los-nuevos-millonarios-k
they have it all legal, eh, all declared, because they are white gloves thieves, they know how to do it. Of course in 2015,“ K” will be out of Arg. We are tired of thieves politicians. We are tired of how they are stealing our working money.
we thought you loved her,
Jun 18th, 2012 - 10:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0still everyone who opposes her,
is another decent argentine .
Different countries have different rules about term limits. The presence or absense doesn't make the country any more or less democratic.
Jun 19th, 2012 - 05:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0UK prime ministers serve at the pleasure of the House of Commons. They have no term limit.
USA Presidents have a 2 term limit and after being elected twice can't ever be elected again. The maximum term would actually be 9 years 364 days (a Vice-President who became President with just less than 2 years left in the term could be elected twice).
Mexico only allows 1 term for the President (A 6 year term).
Argentina and Brazil have a 2 consecutive term limit.
I think the best limit is a 2 term tradition like the USA had before FDR. A customary limit is fine but if a nation really needs a President's leadership (like in WWII) no law prevents breaking the tradition if needed.
Term limits are a reasonable political custom but not in my judgment a good law. I don't see how any country can reasonably complain about what the law on term limits in another country is.
I suspect that the reason this change is not sought in Argentina is either fear of negative political consequences of trying to change the Constitution or lack of a strong enough majority to do it or maybe a combination of both reasons.
@35 As the saying goes “”Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. ”
Jun 19th, 2012 - 06:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0That's why a restriction on those holding the levers of power is a good thing, and why nearly a decade of Kirchnerism ruling by decree has been disastrous for Argentina.
#35 ”I think the best limit is a 2 term tradition like the USA had before FDR. A customary limit is fine but if a nation really needs a President's leadership (like in WWII) no law prevents breaking the tradition if needed”
Jun 19th, 2012 - 10:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0I agree. In usual times and with normal politicians 8 years (based in the US on George Washington setting the precedent of not doing more) should be enough. But in a WW2 style situation with a leader of FDR style stature an exception can be made, because its a convention not a law (in fact in the US other Presidents had tried to break the convention before, but none had won a third election). Argentina today is not in normal times, as its confrontation with the rapacious powers in the world is only deepening, and Cristina is a leader of the same stature as Roosevelt with even better politics. So its very unfortunate that as things currently stand there is a law stopping her from doing the obvious thing and standing again, and letting the people decide whether to re-elect their beloved queen or hand power to some neoliberal nomark.But laws can be changed...
This is how Kirchner stays in power. Political corruption Kirchner / Argentina style. And they say “oh we won by 54% of the vote”, well how much of that 54% was purchased by the Kirchner gang and how many actually voted without getting a few pesos in hand?
Jun 19th, 2012 - 10:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyPC0SD0PGw
Yeah f--- the constitution,it means nothing. We've done it before and we'll do it again. Anyway whats a few rule changes between friends.
Jun 19th, 2012 - 11:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0Turkey Neck - El Presidente for life. Its what all Argentinians want and need.
@37.
Jun 19th, 2012 - 01:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The 22 Amendment (section 1) of the US Constitution states “no person shall be elected to the office of president more than twice”. It's pretty clear you're a rubbish troll, but the crap you spout just makes you a bit of a joke.
@ 39. And deserve...
Even better the KFC, you're getting Maximo next. [bun eating fat git]
Jun 19th, 2012 - 01:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 037 British_Kirchnerist (#)
Jun 19th, 2012 - 02:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Jun 19th, 2012 - 10:28 am
BK you're off your rocker, viejito. If you think the people of Argentina, even the poor buggers who voted for her last time round, want this stupid bitch in power for four more years, you must be under the influence of extasis or something.
Argentina won't withstand the 2 and a half years she has to run!!!!
#40 It was ammended in the 50s, FDR served 1933-45. Basically having solved a huge economic crisis in his first two terms he had to stay on to deal with foreign agressors. Sound familiar?
Jun 19th, 2012 - 03:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Basically having created a huge economic crisis in her first two terms she took time out to be belligerent and aggressive towards peaceful foreigners.
Jun 19th, 2012 - 05:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sounds familiar alright!
FDR served 1933-45 /he had to stay on to deal with foreign agressors. Sound familiar?
Jun 19th, 2012 - 09:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you hint ,
but no name,
was it just a suggestion of britishness, or just hoping
#44 Very funny. But innacurate =)
Jun 19th, 2012 - 11:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 046
Jun 20th, 2012 - 11:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0factualy true
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