Once the pride of Britain’s RAF and Royal Navy, the now stripped-down Harrier vertical take-off jump jets sit like skeletons in the famous US aircraft ‘Boneyard’ in the Arizona desert. Read full article
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I do believe they have served there purpose to devastating effect as Argentina found out, however time moves on, but cant help feeling they still had a role to play, however time moves on its a pity some countries choose not to.Jun 20th, 2012 - 11:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
The article is intended to ... and is not not up to date.Jun 20th, 2012 - 11:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0
The UK options are still open and remain so.
The carriers will be fully operational on the completion of sea trials.
NO carriers no planes, no hope, no jobs, no money and no future.Jun 20th, 2012 - 11:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Long life to Camoron how many years do he still has in NO 10?
Just wonder because I would like to take last picture of B. palace before he sells it for scrap.
We really should have waited until we had the F-35s up and running before dumping the Harriers.Jun 20th, 2012 - 11:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
@3 We don't actually need carriers, though we're building two, to thwart Argentina's ambitions. A couple of Type 45's, a couple of Astute Class subs and a couple of Eurofighters are more than capable of ensuring that the Falkland Islands remain a region of peace. Thanks for your concern. Have a nice day ;)
Yup, the Harriers were a brilliant aircraft, but times moves on and so does technology.Jun 20th, 2012 - 11:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0
However, don't worry Argentina, soon the RAF and RN will have a whole fleet of F35 II Lightnings.
Dany u are not up to date with british military current affairs! However as u seem to be in the mood to take the piss out of military capacity can i remind u that we could whi your ass today and tomorrow if the occasion arose, and could still afford to do it!Jun 20th, 2012 - 11:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0
@6 - brit abroad.Jun 20th, 2012 - 12:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
You're forgetting that Dany is a tactical genius in his own mind. He is willing to send wave after wave of Argentinians at the Falklands (in what vessels and how they're going to be armed he can't say), and he is willing to lose at least 10,000 of them to do so.
@3 Hey Dany. I don't like to gloat, but since it's you I'll make an exception.
Not only are we getting new cool aircraft (F35 Lightning II), and new aircraft carriers for them to fly from, but new submarines too.
And all this despite the recession.
Argentina's military is getting what exactly? Oh yes....Squat.
@3 HMS Illustrious,Jun 20th, 2012 - 12:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Typhoons & Tornados (out classes anything Argentina can throw into the air)
as for hoping thats an Argentine hobby, The UK acts hoping gets you nowhere as you are finding out.
as for jobs lets see UK unemployed=8.2% and falling, Arg unemployment=7.1% and rising,not much too shout about there.
However inflation Arg 9.8% and rising, UK 2.7% halved in 3 months and still falling, WAY HEY!
no money now thats funny last time i looked it was Argentina that asked for Aid and finding it hard to loan money not the UK (AAA)
I have no doubt over our future, id be more concerned about the deteriation of your own, troll.
Have a nice day!
NO carriers no planes, no hope, no jobs, no money and no futureJun 20th, 2012 - 12:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
And they still think CFK is a goddess.
It is sad to see them but time moves on, they played their part and to keep our armed forces at the forefront of technology, hardware needs to be replaced and upgraded. The Argentine commentators see this as a weakness because they are so embarrased about their own capacity to protect themselves. When you can't enforce your point your only option is to repeat your point. They are misguided in their belief that if another war was to take place they would be supported militarily by their close neighbours falling over themselves to fight a war for them. None are as blind as those who will not see.Jun 20th, 2012 - 03:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
3.... Jajaja no carrier for rgs, last one an old British one ran like afrightened child back to port...runaway rgs. Our new carriers will be world second largest, albeit dany without planes till 2020, maybe rgs could lend us one of their mighty pampa jets ! Uk inflation at 2.5 percent and unemployment down happy days, what's the rate in rg land?Jun 20th, 2012 - 05:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Within the past week, the head of the Argentina gastronomic union stated that 40% of those workers are out of work.Jun 20th, 2012 - 06:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Scrapped UK army !Jun 20th, 2012 - 07:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
14 .. Nope it's still in the Falklands...come over and say hello,and get your @ss whipped like before (sorry for getting all American) the gurkas want to say hello, you ran last time like frightened children...don't be afraid they just want to show yyou some cold steel.Jun 20th, 2012 - 08:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Max and danny our 160 typhoons and 136 tornados must be shitting themselves against your mirages 1982 vintage and pucarras 1982 vintage and all those training jets you've just ordered. dont forget all our AEW command and control platforms, brand new in flight refuelling planes, apache helicopters, merlins, lynx etc etc want me to go on. Dauntless would use your airforce as target practice without going to action stations. Any of these names you don't recognise look them up. Read and weep surrender monkeys.Jun 20th, 2012 - 08:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
It is a real shame this plane was scrapped.Jun 20th, 2012 - 08:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Times do change, so why didn’t they decide to update the harrier and make a modern version in the same image?
The F35 seems horrendously expensive and the technology questionable; a bloated American lemon.
Think the f35 will be ok, it has the might of us behind development, early harriers were seen in the same light. With external fuel and weapons points its will pack a decent punchJun 20th, 2012 - 08:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Scrapped UK army !Jun 20th, 2012 - 09:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
you seem to knowq more than us then,
where are they gone to.
@16 Condorito Hmmm... maybe we should buy 1950s Skyhawks like those Argentina recently bought to replace those we splashed into the Atlantic for you in 1982? Talk about American lemons :))Jun 20th, 2012 - 09:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
@19Jun 20th, 2012 - 10:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
I am unaware of any Chilean Skyhawks splashed in the Atlantic. :))
It may well be ok in the end, but is it good value?
The harrier was a British plane that was so good the Americans wanted it. The F35 is a mostly American plane that maybe the UK didn't really need.
You seem to forget max and......knobhead our troops are battle hardened kick arae boys young lads who have been in Afghanistan / Iraq etc yours are?Jun 20th, 2012 - 10:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
@LEPRecon & brit abroad & coJun 21st, 2012 - 07:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Just a question for you as seems you have been working in the British MoD as a weapon expert advisers.
How are you planing to make your futures F35II (JSF) to take off and be recovered without electromagnetic catapults and arresting gears?
Because your futures carriers, to be finish in 2020 or perhaps 2025 is you are lucky, don’t have any of these required stuff.
Have you ever been thinking about that?
Do you have the billions required to spend to outfit the new carriers? That will cost more than the carrier. Ha ha
And how long will takes?
5, 6, 7 years perhaps?
Do you think that to 2030 will you be able to have all tested for combat?
Oh! Damn it may be something new like UAVs will be only used and all your planes would become useless.
Here a Brit wanna say something to you
F-35B doesn't need electromagnetic catapults and arresting gearsJun 21st, 2012 - 09:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0
F-35B short takeoff/vertical landing variant completed ship suitability testing aboard the USS WASP (LHD-1)
22- Well researched Dany as ever. As the above state the F35B is verical take off, much like the harrier which decimated your RG Airforce. So 8 years time a nice new (second largest in the world) aircraft carrier with prob only 6 or 7 planes at first, but soon a loot more. Plenty to blat the argies.Jun 21st, 2012 - 12:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Any time now he will come back and say,Jun 21st, 2012 - 12:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
why is there a runway/ramp on deck,mmm
and he will again recieve the correct answer .lol
I would remind you all that this is 2012 again 2012, not 1982 and currently the Brits got one of the biggest carrier called Ascension Island. 3800 miles (6100 km) distance, not a problem. The RAF even able to bomb Libya from UK bases. Not to forget the Tomahawk that even strike mainland Argentina.Jun 21st, 2012 - 02:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Think dany has bigger problems , no gas to heat his small bedsitJun 21st, 2012 - 04:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
TARANIS .Jun 21st, 2012 - 10:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Maiden flight of the British Taranis has been put back again until 2013. Taranis was originally due to fly in 2011
@mickey5hinsJun 22nd, 2012 - 04:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0
7 LEPRecon said F35II (JSF) and those require MC to take off.
So as the MoD could not afford the full cost they went from Ferrari to a FIAT 500 that can takes off vertically.
“Brits got one of the biggest carrier called Ascension Island. 3800 miles (6100 km) distance, not a problem. The RAF even able to bomb Libya from UK bases”
And guess who owns the biggest carrier in the S. Atlantic of 2800km?
Distance between Libya from London 2331km A.Island to ARG. 6100km UK from Arg. Bue 14000km from FI 15500km.
Wow you have to have a big tank eh!.
Barabap, barabap Illusion
29 - Amazing research again Dany.....Falklands to Arg 200 miles :) seem to remember a huge airbase called RAF Mount Pleasant have a look on google maps its huge , they should build an airport on St Helena..whats that they are...superb... that will help.Jun 22nd, 2012 - 06:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Ferrari to Fiat, yet again incorrect...think the F35B is a superconic aircraft , the only downside over F35C is range, but it still has greater range than old Harriers. Some nice drop tanks on it and bingo.
Cant wait for HMS Queen Elizabeth to go on its first cruise down south.
Mean time you watch out for those tommahawk cruise missles, buggers they are can fly thru windows...BANG
@ cLOHOJun 22nd, 2012 - 07:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Come on CHOCLO this is not a huge airbase I guess there are hundreds bigger than this over ARG land.
Just a couple or Arg Missiles and all will be destroyed.
Tell me your street address and I will tell you how may trees you have in your garden.
Can I ask what type of missiles and how on earth they can past the type 45?Jun 22nd, 2012 - 08:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0
31 - dany TurdburglarJun 22nd, 2012 - 11:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0
- 32 has stolen my thunder, what Argentine missles. And very much doubt RG Airbase is more up to date or even larger, Mount Pleasant is very large and designed for surging of resources and men into the falklands. Do the RG' s have hundreds of airbases???? really ..what and station 1 plane in each. the mighty mirage 40 years old, along with the 40 years old sky hawks, and not forgetting the Pampa jet, wow they are some special kit, i said kit!!! RG's hope to build 40 in next ten years. So to recap Mount Pleasant is a modern very large capable airbase with state of the art fighter aircraft, RG airforce is 40 years old obsolete, you hold no stand off weapons capable of hitting the airbase. Any of your old junk planes would be shot down by either a typhoon of our mighty Type 45 destroyer. Any RG airfield that a raid comes from will be blatted with our superb tomahawk missles BANG
@31 - ~DanyJun 22nd, 2012 - 11:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
If you'd've ever had a girlfriend, she would have told you that it's not the size that counts but what you can do with it. ;o)
We've had this discussion before, haven't we Dany?
Argentina's military has been starved of funds by successive governments, so it is now one of the weakest (if not the weakest) military in the whole of South America.
Britain has never had a large standing army (only boosting numbers in times of war), yet we have been able to do impossible feats with that small number.
All Argentina's military could do was murder it's own people.
Never mind Dany, who knows, once CFK is booted out you may be another Military Dictatorship who will spend wads of taxpayers money on themselves.
I don't forsee this having a happy ending though.
@ LEPReconJun 23rd, 2012 - 06:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0
“If you'd've ever had a girlfriend, she would have told you that it's not the size that counts but what you can do with it. ;o)”
If you ever had one and told you that, she was miserably lying to you to avoid to hurt your fillings.
Sure she didn’t want to make you feel more miserable than you already are.
And after living you for obvious lack of satisfaction, she was laughing with her new boyfriend talking about your size.
And that is not the end of the story she also told all her friends about your poor size.
What explain the reason why you are still alone.
Ask ElaineB about it if you don’t believe me, she seems to know very well about right sizes.
And so the debate ends with duny burger talking about men's private parts again.Jun 23rd, 2012 - 12:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0