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China is the main actor of the new global realities, Cristina tells Wen Jiabao
At a reception for visiting Chinese PM Wen Jiabao, President Cristina Fernández ratified the strategic alliance between China and Argentina and highlighted that “there are new global realities” of which Argentina wants to be part. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesChina? Peace? Sorry, I just have to go away and cry with laughter for a while...
Jun 25th, 2012 - 07:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0Is your US master calling you back?
Jun 25th, 2012 - 08:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0I like the “actor” bit! makes it sound like its all a big pantomime!
Jun 25th, 2012 - 08:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0@ Forgetit87 #2
Jun 25th, 2012 - 08:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0Just read a fraction of the recent stories regarding China in the South Pacific/South China Seas. Nations in the region don't need to take cue cards from the Yanks to know that China is more than prepared to throw it's weight around to secure ludicrous claims (e.g. the entire South China Sea)...
...Guess that explains why Christina is sucking up to them.
Hilarious, next she'll be calling Kim Jong-un, praising him and kissing whatever part gives him the greatest pleasure.
Jun 25th, 2012 - 08:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0Corrupt leftist leader seeks similar for exploitation of the masses, oppression of the press, amnesty international investigations. GSOH, must have territorial issues with neighbours.
Jun 25th, 2012 - 09:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0Hey Turkey Neck! Two points.
Jun 25th, 2012 - 09:45 am - Link - Report abuse 01) About China being really powerful. You're about ten years behind everybody else in noticing this.
2) Nobody likes a suck up.
Cristina is completely right to call China the main actor of the new global realities; its not even a contentious point for most people anymore. Of course the trolls and haters on here who still see it as the same as sucking up to North Korea(!) show their own political ignorance, which people should bear in mind next time they say the beautiful one is finished =)
Jun 25th, 2012 - 10:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0@8 British_Kirchnerist (#)
Jun 25th, 2012 - 10:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0Jun 25th, 2012 - 10:01 am
........and speaking of suck ups........
I don't see it as sycophancy to praise the awesomeness of Cristina, just stating the obvious =)
Jun 25th, 2012 - 10:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0@10 You have no idea how sycophantic that comment was. You go around calling her your heroic queen. How much more sycophantic could you get???
Jun 25th, 2012 - 10:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0#10
Jun 25th, 2012 - 11:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0I have been reading your comments now for some time and notice that you always end up with“ my beautiful queen”. I'm beginning to wonder if this is a bluff and you are taking the piss. Anyway, I would not attack a person for the way they look so I decided to check to see what CFK looked like some years back. The picture that came up bore little resemblance to the current version.
She just looked like an average woman of her age. So what was the problem ?
Insecurity?..Angela Merkel seems to run Germany without need of plastic surgery. Or does Argentina need to have a tarted up package with no contents.
China is no fool, smiling while the botox queen gushes, whilst on the side sticking the knife in BA port by funding a deep sea port for Uruguay. Much better than any business they do goes through a reliable country.
Jun 25th, 2012 - 11:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0Nothing major signed, yet another embarrassing blow to CFK. She is still harping on the same train equipment they've been taking about since 2004! Give it up women! Good gracious don't you think people get sick of hearing the same thing over and over again?
Jun 25th, 2012 - 11:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0I think I hear Patacones being printed...does anyone else?
Things would need to be tipping over the edge before people get paid in government bonds. Not really a great sign of stability is it?
Jun 25th, 2012 - 12:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 015. BA needed a wire from CFKt by last Friday to pay salaries tomorrow.
Jun 25th, 2012 - 12:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Let's see what happens....
2001 all over again but this time will be much worse and much longer.
It is pretty hard to declare that the bonds owned by every RG bank, Anses, every major company worthless ( works with foreigners not so much for your own entities though). All the banks are in effect insolvent so a couple missed payments from Treasury then what....
Hmmm quite a quandary for a mentally unstable dictator to take on...
China the leading example on human rights and respecting the rights of soveringity (Tibet *cough* Taiwan *cough*) and therefore the perfect person to have on side over the Falklands dispute.
Jun 25th, 2012 - 12:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Everyone reamber her saying that Argentina is the worlds greatest country for human rights at the C24. why then didnt she use this chnace to discuss Chinas appaling human rights record? Because she is so desperate for support she is on the verge of the selling the country out to China. YPF and mining concenssions will be given to China in return for investment. however china will bring its own work force over and thereby deny jobs to Argentines.
Its amazing she can give speeches like that with her tongue so far up his jacksy..LOL
Jun 25th, 2012 - 12:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@14
Jun 25th, 2012 - 12:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I was under the impression that, to print patacones, the governor of BA would need to ask congress to overturn a bill outlawing the use of quasi currencies (which could time quite a lot of time). I saw something on TN just stating that people would not get their full wages as this was now the only way they could manage without the use of patacones...
19. It seems pretty easy to over turn or just ignore laws in Argentina. I wouldn't think that a silly law would stop the Provinces printing their own currencies. What would be the Fed Govt recourse?
Jun 25th, 2012 - 12:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In the end I think the gov't will just print as many pesos as they need and worry about the effects later. This is how they have run the economy since Nestor took over. I don't see why they would change now.
Stagflation...Devaluation...Hyperinflation we are just about to hit the 2nd stage...
@20
Jun 25th, 2012 - 01:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That was pretty much my take on it. As governor you can't print patacones because:
a) the Federal government may well decide to haul you up in-front of the courts and indict you;
b) the printing of patacones would lead to a sense of hysteria as they are a visible manifestation of an economy going off the rails; and
c) they end up becoming as worthless as their namesakes
http://low-cholesterol.food.com/recipe/patacones-fried-plantain-92191
So, the answer to this is to print and then wire the requisite amount of cash over to BA whilst saying things like “move on, there's nothing to see here”...
21. Were you living in Arg when they printed them last time? What a mess! No one would take them and if you weren't careful everyone tried to give them to you in your change!
Jun 25th, 2012 - 01:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Provincial Governors are pretty powerful, I can't remember when they've ever brought one up on charges. Plus Fed Gov't would have to send in the army to apprehend them( I think) . A very messy business.
CFK is stymied because the new currency rule that was just past has her capped at the amount of Peso that can be in circulation as a % of BCRA reserves. They're already at the cap. There is no wiggle room. My guess is she will ignore it and print anyway.
Hyperinflation is on the way, even the poor will be millionaires!
Is this the same deal as when she swore blind that China was investing in YPF, only they didn't.
Jun 25th, 2012 - 01:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Or that Argentina was trading food for oil with Angola, only no contract was ever signed?
CFK - wait until they've signed before announcing 'deals', that way you won't look such a fool before the whole world.
In fact, looking at the news, China appears more interested in Uruguay than Argentina.
China is a very canny country, they will chew CFK up and spit her out the other end, leaving China with huge profits and Argentina in the same shape it's in now.
I wasn't there but watched from afar. As with any quasi currency, it never trades on par with the original and, if I remember correctly, very quickly after issuance they were trading down 35%. It would seem that printing more pesos is what she will have to do. I still can't, for the life of me, work out why, one by one, they are breaking every single fundamental rule of sovereign economics. I would be interested to hear from some of our Argentinean friends with an explanation as to how these policies will help rather than just saying “it’s all good, move on, there’s nothing to see here…oh look, a badger driving a car”…
Jun 25th, 2012 - 01:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 022 yankeeboy (#)
Jun 25th, 2012 - 01:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Some of the provincial governors are going to the IDB and WB for loans to cover expenses and accepting the high interest rates, at least those from the oil producing provinces, using the future royalties as colateral. This is working at the moment.
I don't know how log they'll be able to keep it up.
All loans from IDB to Argentina have been “postponed” by Spain. So if they're waiting for that wire x-fer it may take awhile.
Jun 25th, 2012 - 02:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@1 I must say that I agree. I haven't been able to comment on this for about an hour I was laughing so much. Streaming tears, belly pains, the lot.
Jun 25th, 2012 - 02:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Our nations share common goals such as peace and prosperity” said Cristina Fernandez“. Poor journalism. That's ”a” piece (of someone else's territory) and (my) prosperity.
“In these last 40 years the world has changed more than it did in the last 200.“ Except for argieland that is still stuck in the 19th century.
”the new global realities in which Argentina wants to be an actor, and in which China is the main actor,” Suck, suck, slobber, slobber. “If you bend over, I'll lick your ass right now”.
“We are joined by the same goals: achieving peace and prosperity for our people. It is important to make the GDP grow, but if that is not accompanied by social inclusion then you usually have problems,” she added. Whilst denying the people of the Falkland Islands right to self-determination and that their government exists.
@8 You really should stop, you know. Occasionally, it looks as though you are going to make a serious, intelligent point. Then you refer to “the beautiful one”! Back to the optician.
@10 “the awesomeness of Cristina”. ARGHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!
Newsflash -Argentina and China agree $2billion 30 helicopter deal ,to help with “human rights ” flights for pot bangers and strikers.
Jun 25th, 2012 - 03:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thank you China for supporting territorial integrity and for opposing colonialism!
Jun 25th, 2012 - 03:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 029: I guess you aren't from Tibet.
Jun 25th, 2012 - 04:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0China and the UK are equally distabilizing to world peace. The facts over the last 20 years bear this out.
Jun 25th, 2012 - 04:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@31 - Hey Tobias
Jun 25th, 2012 - 04:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What an amazingly random statement. As usual made with no proof to back it up, just you stating 'the facts proves it' which don't prove anything except that your increasingly tenuous grip on reality is slipping.
Anyway Tobias, get with the programme. China is going to save Argentina. Cristina said it, so it must be true. Tow the party line or the hitler youth...er...I mean La Campora, will be calling to 're-educate' you.
@32
Jun 25th, 2012 - 04:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What facts do I need? Has the UK meddled militarily in multiple locales around the terran globe? Yes.
That is not promoting world peace and stability. In fact I could have argued China has been more peaceful, but I know better given their appalling internal situation.
HOW “BROWN” IS YOUR NOSE, KRETINA?
Jun 25th, 2012 - 04:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0'“Our nations share common goals such as peace and prosperity”'
Jun 25th, 2012 - 05:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0...one party states, torture of political prisoners, summary executions, corruption, extortion...
@ 29 Islas Malvinas
Jun 25th, 2012 - 05:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Does this “strategic alliance” mean Argentina fully supports China’s military occupation and brutal repression of places like Tibet and Turkmenistan.
Not to mention new and completely unfounded claims to vast areas of other peoples sea bed. But of course this is what you have in common.
With friends like that you don’t need enemies. I suppose being such “Billy no mates” you have no other choice but to “dance with the Devil”.
Apparently
Jun 25th, 2012 - 06:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Her plastic is running dry,
And she is hoping that china will top it up.
Well, young Barbie doll,
You are in for some good news and some bad news,
They may renew you plastic, but your people will pay the interest,
That’s ok, she says, they love me, they adore me ,
They will pay whatever you ask of them ,
As long as my plastic is renewable we care less not ..
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@1. Yes Because the UK is a peaceful country that has not invaded any territory for decades...
Jun 25th, 2012 - 07:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@36. And does the US-UK “strategic alliance” mean the UK fully supports the bombing and torture of population in foreign nations? And the concentration camp in Guantanamo? And the removal by force of native settles of the Chagos islands?
With friends like that you don't need enemies either.
@38 Troneas
Jun 25th, 2012 - 07:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Is that a “Yes” or a “No”
Or simply another evasion.
the british are very peacefull.
Jun 25th, 2012 - 07:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0argentina is very aggressive .
@38 I've just invented a new drinking game
Jun 25th, 2012 - 08:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Every post that mentions “Chagos”, I down a large glass of (Chilean) red.
Cheers! Hic!
KFC wants to be friends with China because nonone else will play with her. Be carefull the dragon has teeth.
Jun 26th, 2012 - 11:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0Why does Cristina believe she is a respected world leader? She is deserving of no respect at all - ¡pobre Argentina!
Jun 26th, 2012 - 04:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@41 Steveu
Jun 26th, 2012 - 05:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes its truly amazing, every time a point is made or a question is asked that is uncomfortable for the Argies, up pops the Chagos jack in the box.
This seems to be the answer of last resort before silence.
An argument on the intellectual level of a 9 year old.
Peace I. nearly pissed myself laughing @33 Cos we don't sit back and watch innocent women and children get slaughtered by the military, (sound familiar) but hey we are not surrender monkeys sitting spouting crap instead of doing something unlike a few who condone Syria, Libya, Iraq then sit on the fence and do FUCK ALL, ring a bell. The difference is China and Russia are happily ignoring Syria because they provide all the fuckin weapons to the Army there, no better proved than the shipment of attack helecopters stopped in British waters, China and REGenweener you deserve each other. Don't spout to us when you are willing to hold hands with the devil, till they shaft you that is and tell you to do one. ENJOY
Jun 26th, 2012 - 07:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What a lovely display of brown nosing by CFK!
Jun 26th, 2012 - 10:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0China will help us recover Malvinas. China leads the world in human rights. Who is UK to speak about human rights? Afghanistan slaughter all population, no one left except Taliban who defends the people by use of explosives! Iraq genocide all population flees, only people left are government and freedom fighters. Libya, President Graffiti was hero of Argentine people, now he is murdered by his own traitors! Most of Libya turned into a desert by NATO bombers! Syria we don't hear the turth, only lies about Assad, Assad is loved in Argentine because he does not listen to traitors.
Jun 27th, 2012 - 01:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0In Britain all population want independence from England and they will fight for it. English have been killing Scotch and Irish and Welsh and occupying their land. We hate English too.
We want our land back too from plant population, pirates!
#47
Jun 27th, 2012 - 11:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0In your dreams!
Nice to see how argentina groups itself with some of the nastiest regimes in the world. As they say, with friends like that, who needs enemies?
#48 I really don't think Fillipo speaks for Argentina. I oppose any attempt at war with Syria and opposed the bombing of Libya, but because history has shown imperialism only makes things worse not because I loved their dictators
Jun 27th, 2012 - 12:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#47
Jun 27th, 2012 - 01:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You have a peculiar idea of world events and history. If all your countrymen think as you do then it's curtains for Argentina.
China leads the world in human rights-an interesting concept !
President Graffiti of Libya was a hero of Argentine people. There was no one of that name in Libya.
Assad is loved by his people ? He is also loved in Argentina. Why are his people rising against him. He rules with help of his secret police and allows no opposition.
All population in Britain want independence - nonsense, some do and many are quite happy with the Status quo.
England has been killing Scots. Yes, true and Scots have been killing the English in various raids and wars. This happened centuries ago.
I think the last one that could be attributed to the English was in the mid 17th century by Oliver Cromwell !
You are entitled to hate whom you wish, but blanket statements that the Scots, Welsh and Irish hate the English is nonsense.
#50 et al
Jun 27th, 2012 - 03:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Filippo is being ironic something lost on non Brits!
Please join this new fb page - Falkland Islands Desire The Right - dedicated to Falkland Islands current affairs, keeping the islands free and poking fun at the loonacy of the Argentine government and their various claims and their internet trolls - https://www.facebook.com/Britain1592
Jun 27th, 2012 - 03:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Both China and Argentina have a lot to offer each other fish and technology for starters. Needless to mention many economies around the world are tide up in political red tape. China presents an opportunity to diversify their individual portfolio long over due. in a modern world resources trumps political hurdles.
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