Argentine president Cristina Fernandez said on Wednesday that in an uncertain global scenario the priority of her administration was to ensure jobs and called on all sectors to unite in the defence of the political and economic model implemented since 2003. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesInteresting... based on her previous comments about the benefits of pork.... I think Moyano has her well and truly fucked....
Jun 28th, 2012 - 08:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0What is this model she keeps refering to?
Jun 28th, 2012 - 08:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0Is it written as an economic thesis or is it just a name she has given to her governments strategy of bouncing around from one crisis to the next making up policy on the hoof?
@2 - Idlehands.
Jun 28th, 2012 - 09:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0I choose option 2 for $10. ;0)
What the dear leader doesn't understand, is that the people can see through her lies, and see just how bad the economy is, so why should they support a failed economic model (?!?) and a rapidly failing government.
If everything was hunky-dory she wouldn't have to try a rally support like this.
Living in her ivory tower, surrounded by sicophants, she truly has no idea just how desperate the people of Argentina are getting.
The rich can always 'get out of dodge' until the crises has passed, but the middle and working classes are stuck in a cycle of poverty, perpetuated by the government.
Viva la Revolución! Workers and People unite and overthrow this evil, thieving regime.
China, India, Brasil, Russia and other countries aren't growing as fast as they did five, ten years ago, other countries that were not growing much years ago are beginning to see their economies growing today, like Mexico, Turkey, Peru, Colombia, etc., but those countries had to undergo changes in order to achieve that. Even the US is now beginning to attract manufacturing today, as labor and transportation costs have risen in Asia and other regions.
Jun 28th, 2012 - 09:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0The conditions that made it possible for Argentina to expand its economy in previous years may not be there any more, the country cannot lock itself to a rigid economic model, it has to make changes to continue growing.
@4 But this economic model is as much political and ideological as it is economic so it will be very difficult to change as there will only be the political will to change it once things start to go very badly wrong.
Jun 28th, 2012 - 10:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0She has lost the unions and that uaually means the death knell.
Jun 28th, 2012 - 10:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0the longer she stays on the throne the more damage to Argenweeeeener.
ITS ALL GOOD!!!
If this was the UK she'd have been out on her ear a long time ago.
Jun 28th, 2012 - 11:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0The problem seems to be that Argentines are used to chaotic government so seem to tolerate it to a greater degree too.
A brilliant speech from Cristina, the real voice of the left, lets hope people listen to her and not the raving opportunist Moyano
Jun 28th, 2012 - 11:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0the money has to circulate says this thief, well Cris, you and Maxi, can make circulate your fortune (3 million dollars, 80 million pesos) in las villas, people will be grateful to you. A real peronist cant live in Puerto Madero, like they have bought a luxurious department, with our money. People is not silly. And its all the people she has arround, that are all thieves like her.
Jun 28th, 2012 - 11:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0#8
Jun 28th, 2012 - 11:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0Are we reading from the same hymn sheet ?
I think your obsession with her looks is blinding your judgement.
8 British_Kirchnerist (#)
Jun 28th, 2012 - 12:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0BK you are an Anglo Troll!!!
You must be totally dislectic if you think that Kretina represents the left. She is the epitomy of the peronist RIGHT, stealing from the poor to feed herself.
Toby, where ever you are, remember yesterday I was trying to teach you the meaning of desperation? Read the above!
Jun 28th, 2012 - 12:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I guess we are seeing what happens when a new economic model is created
#8 BK
Jun 28th, 2012 - 12:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If that is brillant, the rest of the world leaders must be sheara geniuses. BK just how low are your standards to be a genius? She is not a leftist....she is a theive who deprives her people of opportunity be trying to make them all dependant on government handouts, aka.....buying votes.
Mexico, Turkey, Peru, Colombia, etc.
Jun 28th, 2012 - 01:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Bullshit. Peru has been the fastest growing economy in the Americas for the better part of the latest decade, and the same applies for Turkey in the Mediterranean.
but those countries had to undergo changes in order to achieve that.
What changes has Mexico undergone? Mexico took a beating in the 2008 and it is slowly recovering ground, that's all. Peru is doing what it has always done, extracting metals and developing infrastructure for this purpose. As for Turkey, all it seems to be doing is blowing financial bubbles. It has a huge trade deficit and that puts into doubt any notion that it is benefiting from alleged loss of East Asia's manufacturing capacity. Its wage levels are probably too high for that, and I'm not even going to talk about the US, whose export capacity seems to derive entirely on how low the dollar will go.
14 Forgetit87 (#),
Jun 28th, 2012 - 02:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Mexico signed more trade agreements in order to diversify its international trade, there were regulatory reforms to allow businesses to set up in a few days, as opposed to what it was before, there was a program of incentive and infrastructure to attract automotor and aerospace industry investors, many aerospace and automotor companies set up shop during these years thanks to these and many other changes.
Mexico's always had a good number of trade agreements, and this has resulted in nothing but a burgeoning trade deficit even with its cheap currency. Open trade has worked for the worse in Mexico in the past, and I don't know why that would be any different today, where demand in much of the developed world is dampened and countries will grow protectionistic. Moreover, this open trade policy will work against any attempt by Mexico to produce a genuinely national industry instead of just attracting foreign investment.
Jun 28th, 2012 - 03:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As I have been predicting...blackouts in BA! Just the beginning of the total collapse of their electric grid.
Jun 28th, 2012 - 03:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Lets see... no gasoline, no nat gas, no electric, no medicine, no syringes....do you think RGs are happy going living like it was 100 yrs ago? Maybe they want to relive teh days when they were considered rich?
What a glorious new economic model!!
Tick Tock Tick Tock
Blackouts being reported in BA (Belgrano, Palermo y Colegiales) and some further powershortages being reported in other northern parts of BA capital...
Jun 28th, 2012 - 03:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hmm, I seem to remember a certain Dear Leader CFK promising that there wouldn't be blackouts or fuel shortages.
Jun 28th, 2012 - 03:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This is who she will blame (though not necessarily in this order):
1. The Evil British and Falkland Islanders (pirates -arrgggg!)
2. The Unions
3. The Evil British and Falkland Islanders (pirates -arrgggg!)
4. The USA
5. The Evil British and Falkland Islanders (pirates -arrgggg!)
6. The Military Junta from 1982
7. The Evil British and Falkland Islanders (pirates -arrgggg!)
8. The WTO
9. The Evil British and Falkland Islanders (pirates -arrgggg!)
10. The IMF
11. The Evil British and Falkland Islanders (pirates -arrgggg!)
12. The World Bank
13. The Evil British and Falkland Islanders (pirates -arrgggg!)
14. Native Amerindians
15. The Evil British and Falkland Islanders (pirates -arrgggg!)
16. Her Vice President
17. The Evil British and Falkland Islanders (pirates -arrgggg!)
18. Aliens from planet X
19. The Evil British and Falkland Islanders (pirates -arrgggg!)
20. The UN
21. The Evil British and Falkland Islanders (pirates -arrgggg!)
Have I missed anyone out?
Toby, Remember our little conversation that when Argentina lost the trade benefits to the USA I told you it would be devastating to Argentina's small producers...I see that 500 people were laid off in La Rioja today. Their products are now too expensive to sell in USA and Brazil has retaliated due your your stupid Prez restricting imports.
Jun 28th, 2012 - 03:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0500 might not seem like a lot but how many 100os are laid off in the car mfgs too? 1000 here 1000 there adds up pretty quickly in your country.
I wonder what the new unemployment figure will be for July...do you think Arg will be 9% yet or will that be in Aug.
So, looking at the picture, the faithful, the sheep and the poor were herded into an appropriate space to cheer. Did they get paid in dollars, pesos or food? Those flags and banners are well prepared. Issued by La Campora?
Jun 28th, 2012 - 04:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@8 Trouble is that the raving opportunist Moyano appears to have been saying and fighting for the same things since 1973? How about CFK? Don't they come from the same town?
@11 Please don't call him an Anglo. He's nothing to do with us. Every so often he gives away something that shows that he's not British and, if he ever lived in Britain, he doesn't now.
On a wider note, have you ever heard a more condescending speech? “All is so interconnected in the modern world that we can’t separate the route of Argentina from the rest of the countries” So piss off anyone you like, right?
“we have always worked for equality and building and I believe we have been able to bring together two great values for any society: freedom and equality. The two are necessary, you can’t think about equality without freedom”. Except for the Falklands, who can't have freedom or equality.
“To all the men and women of San Luis and the country, we need you united and working, much is still needed to be done, and this we must achieve united and with solidarity”. Yeah. Work, serfs. She needs lots more money, your money, yet!
I expect they have diverted power to Mendoza. Can't have the Presidents at the Mercosur summit sitting in the dark.
Jun 28th, 2012 - 04:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Great article written to address the ridiculous claims made by the RG Ambassador to the USA last week. Just goes to show how scummy CFK and minions are...
Jun 28th, 2012 - 05:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/foreign-policy/235347-the-truth-behind-argentinas-debt-problems
One of the things not mentioned in the article was the fact that Argentina law (put in place by the K government) forces all public TV stations (which are non-cable) to shut down their programming any time CFK has an acto and must carry her speech. Thus, Moyano and his protest were cut-off during her speech time. And all for her to dedicate a new pork products plant, and which is in a province which is working the best of all Argentina provinces, without help from the national government.
Jun 28th, 2012 - 05:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Keep going on Argentina.
Jun 28th, 2012 - 06:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No one can have perceived your model yet that what it is !
Did I read it right,
Jun 28th, 2012 - 07:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Falklands were not mentioned once,
Mmmmm
Something’s in the wind,
BK , please
Support her if you want, but don’t stand hand in hand on a sinking ship, trying to persuade us, you are only standing in a paddling pool.
its not fair on the fishes .
@25 Your model is obvious. It's called fraud and theft!
Jun 28th, 2012 - 07:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 025. The model is called failed.
Jun 28th, 2012 - 08:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0First time I ever saw the word STAGFLATION in tn.com ! Are they reading my posts?
Click Click Click I hear the presses printing Pesos or are they patacones? Not sure yet.
I read somewhere that some TV stations had split screens showing both speeches.
Jun 28th, 2012 - 08:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Same sort of speeches given by Kim Il Sung and Mao Ze Dong as their countries ploughed head on into authoritarian isolationist hell.
Jun 28th, 2012 - 11:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As Einstein said, 'Insanity is repeating the same thing over and over and yet expecting a different result'. This is a clear example of that.
Too bad she never in all these years explained what the model is. Frankly, it seems it is just riding the tide with no real objectives at all. But, of course, we mortals need not know what the model is...only She can know and we obey.
Jun 29th, 2012 - 02:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0@2 its called fascism
Jun 29th, 2012 - 03:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0#29 - Yes, one TV station showed a split screen (originally one-fourth screen), but the sound was only for her majesty`s speech.
Jun 29th, 2012 - 04:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0@ Forgetit87 You don't know what you're talking about. It's obvious economics is not your strong point.
Jun 29th, 2012 - 07:00 am - Link - Report abuse 034 The Chilean perspective,
Jun 29th, 2012 - 12:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Reading @ Forgetit87 I understand now that some south american countries are obsessed with Trade Deficits, but try to curve them by means of crazy and unilateral protectionist measures that will only lead to a destruction of their competitiveness ultimately. The way to respond to trade deficits is to open your markets, creative incentives for companies to invest more on training for their employees so they can achieve higher quality at lowers costs of production, creative incentives to facilitate introduction or new equipment, new technologies, improve your fiscal system to facilitate the creation of more businesses, and there are hundreds of things a government can do. Chile is doing it, Mexico is doing it, other countries are doing, and they are growing today steadily.
@35 Jose
Jun 29th, 2012 - 02:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That's common sense. But whar does common sense have to do with the Argentine government?
The Argentine government plays the populist card, and the people are impatient and want it now, not tomorrow or next year, so making short term policies which leave them lurching from one crises to another is easier than building long term stability.
After all, the government are only in power for a few years, and instead of doing what's right for the country, they just stuff their pockets with as much cash as they can before it all comes crashing down around their ears.
Argentina has used this particular model for years, it doesn't work, but no one wants to take responsibility for saving Argentina from its self inflicted wounds.
The model is called a Ford Edsell.
Jun 29th, 2012 - 03:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Have a look at the grille: it is just like The Mad Bitch of Argentina - a great big cnut.
It also failed in very short time and is only sited for how not to do it.
Just like the Argentinean economy.
She and her clan have had a decade to impose their choice of model. Not only is this ample time -a luxury in politics - to implement and tweak but WHAT EXACTLY is the model?!
Jun 29th, 2012 - 03:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think its good that the whole country gets a chance to see Cristina's speech, so she can calm their nerves and rebut the bombastic shitstirring of Moyano
Jun 29th, 2012 - 04:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 039 British_Kirchnerist
Jun 29th, 2012 - 04:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What do you think about BA running out of cash?
Cristina said it best, if only Scioli was as skilled as her at economic policy. Maybe she could bail it out on condition it changes its government; worked for you're financially sensible heroine Merkel!
Jun 29th, 2012 - 06:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#41 BK I really can't stop laughng at that women's arrogance. But what can one expect from a leader who thinks they get a consolation prize for coming in 2nd place in a 1982 war. Cameroon really wants to kick RG's ass just to stop that face with lips up but realized he can't.......you have no military.
Jun 29th, 2012 - 07:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Skilled econmic policy, she's been consulting the late Kim Jong IL for too long.........but I heara Ahmadinejad is bailing her out.
The model started in 2003 is the Titanic !!!
Jun 29th, 2012 - 10:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Btw doesn't she look lovely in the photo, enthusiastic and genuine, her goodness shines through her eyes. Moyano can't compete with this =)
Jun 30th, 2012 - 06:32 am - Link - Report abuse 044 British_Kirchnerist
Jun 30th, 2012 - 08:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ha, Ha!! do you think she looks tired??
Coming to a paypacket near you http://fmnativa.com/pics/p3932/foto3932_1.jpg
Jun 30th, 2012 - 09:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 046 Frank
Jul 01st, 2012 - 12:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Is that the fabled Nestor? His eyes seem to be looking in the right direction for a change, perhaps the image was 'corrected'.
I must say I thought the one with Boudou (or whatever) was very funny.
@47 That is the photo taken the day he realised it was all going to end in tears.. just before he topped himself... found it here http://fmnativa.com/noticia_3932.html?t=De+patacones+o+Lecops....+ahora+PINGUINOS+%3F
Jul 01st, 2012 - 07:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0British_Kirchnerist,
Jul 01st, 2012 - 08:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I continue to enjoy your beautifully measured hidden-humour.
It is so well judged that many people on the site take your comments at their face-value, fail to see that you are 'taking the pee', and get upset with the actual words.
For me, focus on the policy and not the features of your dear and beautiful queen.
#44
Jul 02nd, 2012 - 01:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Looks good!?!, not even a desparate man deprived of women for a decade would find her looking good. She looks like the fat in her ass was sucked out and shot into her lips with a botox forehead. Hence the nickname....Ms. Botox I've so often heard. Even a 1 peso whore in a 5 peso hotel (of course whores only take geenbacks) looks better than KFC. She's stressed by with worry of a red laser dot on her forehead.
#50
Jul 02nd, 2012 - 05:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0... chill Cristina, millions of Hindus go around with a permanent red dot on their forehead.
Laser-dot, binde, nande;
none of these compare with a cattle-bolt up-close and personal.
Compression ends depression.
51 GeoffWard2
Jul 02nd, 2012 - 05:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0When I was a young engineer, I used to design cattle-stunners (as the UK markets knows them).
10 mm diameter bolt powered by a 0.22rf lr blank. Takes down ANY type of steer or cow.
Talking of cows, I could be persuaded to have a gold-plated model made if you think it would be attractive to B-Ks 'queen'. :o)
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