Mercosur Secretary General Samuel Pinheiro Guimaraes resigned to his post in the midst of the Mendoza summit following a strong exchange with the group of Foreign Ministers, indicated reports from Buenos Aires. Read full article
Could those more knowledgable on Brazil than me please explain if they think the article is right to say Patriota is in disgrace with Dilma, if so why she hasn't she fired him, and was he, as another article recently put it, the driving force behind Brazil's retreat from firmer anti-coup measures in Paraguay?
Makes sense, they guy did not want to be figurehead, it appears most of the important decisions in Mercosur seem to be made by the governments of Brazil & Argentina unilaterally anyway, the smaller members get informed later.
it appears we have an honourable man in South America politics after all.
I can imagine Timmidman bein surprised by anything, but Almagro needs to get himself together. Not only did he miss the Chin Premier while he was wasting his time meddling in other countries affairs in Paraguay, he was surprised that the guy appointed to run Mercosur ACTUALLY wanted something positive to happen!
Perhaps he will be surprised when Pepe asks for his resignation.
Almagro is a tit who's only obeying Mujica's orders, so the real disappointment is the latter. I find it hard to stomach that Uruguay and Chile have joined this sad incident of foreign meddling in internal Paraguayan matters. And Venezuela has crept in the back door of Mercosur like a thief in the night. As a Uruguayan, my sincere apologies to the people of Paraguay. I'm ashamed of my president.
The role of the Secretary General in all super-national states is almost always overrated by outsiders. It's a second-career job for time expired politicians not a promotion to a position of authority over sovereign nations. Guimaraes discovered this first hand and has wrapped his hand in. Such is hubris.
ChrisR
Nothing positive happens? What are you talking about, Venezuela just got in :)
Ah, Paraguayan elite.... With enemies like you, who needs friends :)
GeoffWard2 @ 9 - Yes, that's what I was told in São Paula last week. I've just checked in Veja magazine and found an article dated 23rd June under the title ”Prestígio (quase) zero (Prestige (almost) zero”: my translation) by Lauro Jardim. The gist is that Patriota has fallen out of President Rousseff's favour due to his shortcomings during Rio+20, but is unlikely to be dismissed. http://veja.abril.com.br/blog/radar-on-line/governo/depois-da-rio20-ministro-perde-prestigio-com-dilma/
Thanks, Ynsere # 10
Missed the Veja clip.
I guess Patriota had good reasons for distancing himself from some of the crazier G20 decisions.
But Dilma has been around CFK too much - seeing CFK's ministers energetically indulging in black=white 'double-speak' must make Dilma believe this is the way Patriota should act.
I have time for the man.
#5 I think you're right Mujica is in charge, I just don't think its a bad thing he went along with the defence of Paraguyan democracy, and his speech at the Rio 20+ was amazing
#12 I think Cristina may be a good influence on Dilma, moving her to the left. Or she may just be closer to her freedom fighter youth all along than some of you hoped =)
You yourself admitted you were outcasted from your country. Too expensive, and especially to rotten with socialism and immigrants (your words). Doesn't sound like a choice to me.
If I had been born in Europe, I would have probably killed myself by now (as many of you guys do)
If I had been born in North America, I would probably be a fried brain wasting away by now (as many of them do)
If I had been born anywhere else in Latin America, I would probably be living in a wood shack by a hillside (as many of them do).
Thankfully, I was born in the best place to be born in, and in the best place to be born in WITHIN the best place to be born in. As such, I don't feel suicidial due to life being not worth living, I don't poison myself with drugs because life being all about work 24/7, and I don't live in a wood shack. I like life, I don't live to work, and I have a nice bungalow of brick red exteriors, a pretty garden, a red gabled roof, and a cute garage. And I'm extremely well educated.
Dilma Rousseff may have been known as - and is still known as - a 'freedom fighter' (arguably good),
it should not be forgotten that she was also an international terrorist (definitely bad).
CFK kept her head down during the troubles, becoming a 'lawyer' when others 'freedom fought'.
I think she can teach old Dilma very little when it comes to 'fighting for the Left'.
Its hilarious to read BK's comments on the past of his queen. Both she and Fester worked hand in glove with the military government of Santa Cruz, while they made their first fortune from executing judicial demands on poor farmers who couldn't pay their loans because of inflation. Blood suckers!!!
I didn't have to go to Uruguay, I could have gone most anywhere (except Argentina obviously), we nearly went to France, I chose to go to Uruguay.
A definition of education which I think is reasonable:
”the act or process of imparting or acquiring general knowledge, developing the powers of reasoning and judgment, and generally of preparing oneself or others intellectually for mature life ('Learning for life').”
The word 'mature' is in fact underlined in the definition. May I suggest you take serious notice of that?
I realise you keep on at me because you are somewhat disheartened that an old Brit (or old git, if you like) can see through your little problem.
#17 When I said freedom fighter past I meant Dilma's. However no-one who hasn't been there can really get too sniffy about Nestor and Cristina keeping their heads down during the extraordinarily murderous 1976-83 junta. After all they had already been young left activists under the early 70s junta and the right wing Peronist government that followed it, and having managed to stay alive eventually returned to left politics; it would have been worse for the movement if all its members got killed for taking on the junta head on, surely. They also I think helped fugitives in that time and there is a big difference between keeping your head down to live to fight another day and collaboration. Simon's allegations at #18 have been parroted for years by the opposition and now Moyano, but theres never been any evidence produced to back them up. Moyano on the other hand was able to remain an active union leader while many of his activists were being dissapeared, this comes across as much more suspicious behviour than fleeing to the south
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Disclaimer & comment rulesCould those more knowledgable on Brazil than me please explain if they think the article is right to say Patriota is in disgrace with Dilma, if so why she hasn't she fired him, and was he, as another article recently put it, the driving force behind Brazil's retreat from firmer anti-coup measures in Paraguay?
Jun 30th, 2012 - 09:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0Oh dear, Mercosur not as united as they would like to think eh, more of a monkey's tea party.
Jun 30th, 2012 - 09:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0Makes sense, they guy did not want to be figurehead, it appears most of the important decisions in Mercosur seem to be made by the governments of Brazil & Argentina unilaterally anyway, the smaller members get informed later.
Jun 30th, 2012 - 05:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0it appears we have an honourable man in South America politics after all.
Jun 30th, 2012 - 06:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I can imagine Timmidman bein surprised by anything, but Almagro needs to get himself together. Not only did he miss the Chin Premier while he was wasting his time meddling in other countries affairs in Paraguay, he was surprised that the guy appointed to run Mercosur ACTUALLY wanted something positive to happen!
Perhaps he will be surprised when Pepe asks for his resignation.
Almagro is a tit who's only obeying Mujica's orders, so the real disappointment is the latter. I find it hard to stomach that Uruguay and Chile have joined this sad incident of foreign meddling in internal Paraguayan matters. And Venezuela has crept in the back door of Mercosur like a thief in the night. As a Uruguayan, my sincere apologies to the people of Paraguay. I'm ashamed of my president.
Jul 01st, 2012 - 06:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0The role of the Secretary General in all super-national states is almost always overrated by outsiders. It's a second-career job for time expired politicians not a promotion to a position of authority over sovereign nations. Guimaraes discovered this first hand and has wrapped his hand in. Such is hubris.
Jul 01st, 2012 - 10:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0ChrisR
Jul 01st, 2012 - 11:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0Nothing positive happens? What are you talking about, Venezuela just got in :)
Ah, Paraguayan elite.... With enemies like you, who needs friends :)
Argentines beginning to doubt CFK's mental health:
Jul 01st, 2012 - 03:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.lanacion.com.ar/1486654-la-presidenta-bajo-el-imperio-de-las-emociones
'Could those more knowledgable on Brazil than me please explain if they think the article is right to say Patriota is in disgrace with Dilma...'
Jul 01st, 2012 - 05:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I would also be interested to know.
GeoffWard2 @ 9 - Yes, that's what I was told in São Paula last week. I've just checked in Veja magazine and found an article dated 23rd June under the title ”Prestígio (quase) zero (Prestige (almost) zero”: my translation) by Lauro Jardim. The gist is that Patriota has fallen out of President Rousseff's favour due to his shortcomings during Rio+20, but is unlikely to be dismissed.
Jul 01st, 2012 - 06:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://veja.abril.com.br/blog/radar-on-line/governo/depois-da-rio20-ministro-perde-prestigio-com-dilma/
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Jul 01st, 2012 - 06:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0To be judged in moralities by a European.
Kinda like the lion judging the hyena on their lack of vegeterianism.
Chris, you are a European, don't forget that.
Thanks, Ynsere # 10
Jul 01st, 2012 - 09:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Missed the Veja clip.
I guess Patriota had good reasons for distancing himself from some of the crazier G20 decisions.
But Dilma has been around CFK too much - seeing CFK's ministers energetically indulging in black=white 'double-speak' must make Dilma believe this is the way Patriota should act.
I have time for the man.
(10) & (12)
Jul 02nd, 2012 - 04:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0Of Course!!!
Veja Says, Veja says. So it must be true.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNE2YuoOFLY
11 Truth_Telling_Troll
Jul 02nd, 2012 - 11:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0Chris, you are a European, don't forget that.
That is very true Tobias, but do not forget TWO things:
1) I chose to live in South America, you were simply born here;
2) I chose Uruguay, the best country in South America to live in. Unfortunately, you were born in Argentina. :o(
#5 I think you're right Mujica is in charge, I just don't think its a bad thing he went along with the defence of Paraguyan democracy, and his speech at the Rio 20+ was amazing
Jul 02nd, 2012 - 01:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#12 I think Cristina may be a good influence on Dilma, moving her to the left. Or she may just be closer to her freedom fighter youth all along than some of you hoped =)
@14
Jul 02nd, 2012 - 04:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You yourself admitted you were outcasted from your country. Too expensive, and especially to rotten with socialism and immigrants (your words). Doesn't sound like a choice to me.
If I had been born in Europe, I would have probably killed myself by now (as many of you guys do)
If I had been born in North America, I would probably be a fried brain wasting away by now (as many of them do)
If I had been born anywhere else in Latin America, I would probably be living in a wood shack by a hillside (as many of them do).
Thankfully, I was born in the best place to be born in, and in the best place to be born in WITHIN the best place to be born in. As such, I don't feel suicidial due to life being not worth living, I don't poison myself with drugs because life being all about work 24/7, and I don't live in a wood shack. I like life, I don't live to work, and I have a nice bungalow of brick red exteriors, a pretty garden, a red gabled roof, and a cute garage. And I'm extremely well educated.
Please don't hate.
#15,
Jul 02nd, 2012 - 05:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0... reconstructing history.
Dilma Rousseff may have been known as - and is still known as - a 'freedom fighter' (arguably good),
it should not be forgotten that she was also an international terrorist (definitely bad).
CFK kept her head down during the troubles, becoming a 'lawyer' when others 'freedom fought'.
I think she can teach old Dilma very little when it comes to 'fighting for the Left'.
Its hilarious to read BK's comments on the past of his queen. Both she and Fester worked hand in glove with the military government of Santa Cruz, while they made their first fortune from executing judicial demands on poor farmers who couldn't pay their loans because of inflation. Blood suckers!!!
Jul 02nd, 2012 - 05:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(16) Truth_Telling_Troll
Jul 02nd, 2012 - 05:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You say...:
Thankfully, I was born in the best place to be born in, and in the best place to be born in WITHIN the best place to be born in.
I say...:
Are you from Belgrano too?
16 Truth_Telling_Troll
Jul 02nd, 2012 - 06:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Alas, you continue to miss the point.
I didn't have to go to Uruguay, I could have gone most anywhere (except Argentina obviously), we nearly went to France, I chose to go to Uruguay.
A definition of education which I think is reasonable:
”the act or process of imparting or acquiring general knowledge, developing the powers of reasoning and judgment, and generally of preparing oneself or others intellectually for mature life ('Learning for life').”
The word 'mature' is in fact underlined in the definition. May I suggest you take serious notice of that?
I realise you keep on at me because you are somewhat disheartened that an old Brit (or old git, if you like) can see through your little problem.
#17 When I said freedom fighter past I meant Dilma's. However no-one who hasn't been there can really get too sniffy about Nestor and Cristina keeping their heads down during the extraordinarily murderous 1976-83 junta. After all they had already been young left activists under the early 70s junta and the right wing Peronist government that followed it, and having managed to stay alive eventually returned to left politics; it would have been worse for the movement if all its members got killed for taking on the junta head on, surely. They also I think helped fugitives in that time and there is a big difference between keeping your head down to live to fight another day and collaboration. Simon's allegations at #18 have been parroted for years by the opposition and now Moyano, but theres never been any evidence produced to back them up. Moyano on the other hand was able to remain an active union leader while many of his activists were being dissapeared, this comes across as much more suspicious behviour than fleeing to the south
Jul 03rd, 2012 - 10:02 am - Link - Report abuse 021 British_Kirchnerist (#)
Jul 03rd, 2012 - 02:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0BK, check out this link:
http://www.cerromercedario.com/2008/03/los-kirchner-durante-los-aos-de.html
And this one:
http://www.cerromercedario.com/2008/03/los-kirchner-durante-los-aos-de.html
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