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Wikileaks Assange “declines to comply” police order and remains at Ecuadorean embassy
Wikileaks founder Julian Assange is ignoring a London Metropolitan Police order to surrender himself at a police station, his representative has said. Susan Benn said he was advised to “decline to comply” and will remain inside the Ecuadorian embassy while his application for asylum is processed. Read full article
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Jun 30th, 2012 - 05:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0Once again, as during the XIX and early XX century, the Libertarians of this world seek refuge in South America....................
Time to repay our huge debt to them, acquired during the last half of the XX’th Century….
Welcome home, Mr. Julian Assange…………..
Yeah who cares about his filthy sexual habits, those two Swedish ladies got what they might have expected if not quite what they deserved.
Jun 30th, 2012 - 08:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0Any way being described as the lousiest screw ever is surely enough punishment for this freedom loving condom hater.
He would fit in beautifully in Benny's Hairies and maybe the President will invite him over for coffee one evening to “compare notes”. She's not really his type as he seems to prefer blue eyed blondes (don't we all) but hey any port in a storm.
Getting to Heathrow is likely to prove more exciting.
This punkboy could be a English troll to hook on Latin America by way of oil reserved Ecuador.
Jun 30th, 2012 - 08:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0Your latest “personna” would be more adequately termed PissedThink rather than LightThink.
Jun 30th, 2012 - 09:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0The UK should just break off all diplomatic relations with Ecuador – that'll leave the snivelling Australian scum-bag and his sick misogynistic supporters high and dry with nowhere to hide when the Ecuadorians vacate the premises.
Jun 30th, 2012 - 09:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0I don't think there is a requirement for the british authorities to grant him free passage to Heathrow... seem to recall some poor buggers being holed up in western embassies behind the iron curtain for years.
Jun 30th, 2012 - 10:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0You are quite right, Frank, there is neither any obligation to grant him free passage, nor any prospect of it happening .. especially now that his breach of his bail terms has made him a criminal in the UK.
Jun 30th, 2012 - 10:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0It isn't even that the Ecuadorian embassy is a large building that he can be smuggled out of - it is a not very salubrious three-bedroomed flat in an old mansion block round the back of Harrods .. and in one of the most heavily policed areas of London.
In short, his chances of making it to Ecuador, before being extradited to face justice in Sweden, are a big fat zero .. so, before long, his misogynistic supporters will be back to sulking.
Not that he even wants to go to Ecuador, which is one of the least free nations on this planet of ours.
@1 “Once again, as during the XIX and early XX century, the Libertarians of this world seek refuge in South America....................”
Jun 30th, 2012 - 10:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yep. Nazis and fascisti this way. We need your expertise in repression, torture, murder.
“Time to repay our huge debt to them, acquired during the last half of the XX’th Century….”
More yep. Would have been difficult to conduct the “Dirty War” and the “Kirchner Experience” without them. In argieland, the police “missing persons” department is that part of the police that makes “persons” go “missing”.
As his lawyer says, asylum applications take priority. Furthermore, isn't he legally on Ecuadorian soil now, so why should he travel back to Britain just to be arrested?! If he has to be holed up for years, maybe that will be what happens; I hope and expect that Correa won't back down on this
Jun 30th, 2012 - 11:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0Oh, I see! applying for asylum in a foreign emabassy on British territory and breaking Brtish law to do so, takes priority over the laws of Britian. A complete new legal concept. He was a suspect in an alleged crime in Sweden, here he most deffinately has committed a crime, he has breached his bail. Am I the only one on here that finds him to be a cynical hypocrite. He uses the law and when it does go in his favour, he breaks it. Says a lot about his character and makes one wonder wether there is some substance to the Swedish allegations. I think we should realise that he is know a Wanted man in this country. I find it incredulous that a Member of the British Legal System, condones his breach!
Jun 30th, 2012 - 11:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0@9 Excerpt: “Contrary to popular belief, diplomatic missions do not enjoy full extraterritorial status and are not sovereign territory of the represented state.” There you go. Still British soil.
Jun 30th, 2012 - 01:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@10 I reckon, failing an “intervention”, Assange will now be “running” for the rest of his life. Apart from his other attributes, he now proves to be a very silly man. How does he cross the pavement to a car without leaving the embassy? He can't. How about a helicopter? Not really. The Ecuadorian embassy is in a flat, an apartment. So the only answer is an agreement between the Ecuadorian and British governments to allow him to leave the country. The sooner this rat is out of Britain, the better.
But what then? If he fears the United States, how is he going to be better off in South America? Israel has proved, more than once, that removing someone from South America, or killing them in situ, is not a problem. It took the United States 10 years to find a kill bin Laden, but they did it. Does Assange think he's going to be “safe” sat on the United States' doorstep? And, hey ho, Guantanamo Bay is, handily, between Ecuador and the continental United States. And Ecuador is right next to Colombia where the U.S. has a “presence”. SEAL Team mission from Colombia into and out of Ecuador? Submarine or surface warship to Gitmo? Or perhaps just a USAF flight? If he's right about the U.S. wanting him, he needs to be hoping that they want to put him on trial. If they just want him dead, he already is. It's just a matter of time.
As for defence lawyers, they are a special breed. Everyone, no matter how guilty, is entitled to legal representation. Presumably, defence lawyers comfort themselves with this thought. And the size of their fees. Geoffrey Robertson, for instance, a member of Assange's “legal team” charges thousands of pounds per day for his “services”. That must help his conscience!
Take note Argentinians - he may be a dirty boy but at least he likes to feel a pulse before he drops his shorts.
Jun 30th, 2012 - 03:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He's not worried, creep probably qualified for legal aid!
Jun 30th, 2012 - 04:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why do you all condem Julian Assange?
Jul 01st, 2012 - 06:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0How do you know if he is guilty or not?
Don't give me that guff that “if he's innocent then he's got nothing to fear”.
He has a real fear of the US justice system which l can well understand.
The UK-US extradition treaty is heavily loaded against UK citizens.
And the Swedes will fall into line with what the US wants.
You all talk as if Julian was a murderous bank robber or terrorist.
Apart from the questionable Swedish claims, all he's done is publish American cables that probably shouldn't have been sent anyway.
lf you remember they weren't very flattering about our troops in lraq, were they?
l'm afraid that the “establishment” is out to get him.
ln his place l would have sought asylum somewhere too.
Far better to live in a foreign country than spend the rest of your life in a US prison.
What about a bit of humanity?
That's Isolde................., my beloved 30th cousin! (on the Viking line)
Jul 01st, 2012 - 06:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0Haughty and harsh at times…. but with a deep rooted wish to be one of the goodies.
wow Isolde... For a minute, I was your Tristan...
Jul 01st, 2012 - 07:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0@14 I agree, the US establishment is out to get him. From a personal point of view I think on this occasion they are right to do so. I didn't spend 38 years abstaining from mind altering drugs, excess alcohol, excessive debt, dubious sexual practices and promiscuous partner swapping just to have my work splashed all over the internet. What about my IPR (well, Her Majesty's actually)? Discourage others: lock him and Manning up and throw away the key.....
Jul 01st, 2012 - 07:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0Isolde
Jul 01st, 2012 - 09:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0It is not the US justice system that he has to answer these allegations to, it is the Swedish justice system for god sake!!
They want to interview him about these allegations. He is using the US card to avoid answering those questions. Now why is that?
How about a little bit of Humanity? Okay, what if these allegations are true, where is the humanity for the victims, please tell me that.
17
Jul 01st, 2012 - 09:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0In 30 more you might realize that you've spent 68 chasing someone elses dreams :)
@19 I'm making up for it now so I'm very unlikely to last another 30 years.
Jul 01st, 2012 - 09:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0(20) CmdMcDod
Jul 01st, 2012 - 09:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0That's why you're hitting on Isolde...... huhhhhhhh?
Viejo Verde!
:-)
@21 We few, we happy few, we band of brothers....
Jul 01st, 2012 - 09:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0@22 You sly silver fox...............
Jul 01st, 2012 - 09:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0l just don't trust the Americans to play fair on this.
Jul 01st, 2012 - 12:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0lf the Swedes would guarantee not to send him on to the US, and he still refused to answer charges in Sweden, we could then question his innocence or not.
Why would anyone willingly enter the lion's den?
@21Think,
l do consider myself one of the “goodies”
As opposed to the malvinista “baddies”.
No one is “hitting” on to me either. Just your imagination.
Too bad if they are, anyway. l'm not available.
@18 realitycheck,
That hasn't been proved & it hasn't been proved that they are victims.
As l said, if he still refuses to answer the Swedish “allegations” if Sweden promises not to send him to the US, then yes he has got something to hide.
To me, the who thing seems to be cooked up.
@17Doveoverdover,
l would hazard a guess that they don't just want to lock him up, they want to execute him.
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As for my choice of the word “humanity”, l probably should have used “compassion”.
Just the way that everyone was putting the boot into him while he was down irked me.
l don't believe he would get a fair trial in the US.
He obviously doesn't think so either.
(24) Isolde
Jul 01st, 2012 - 12:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You’re not available, you say……………..
Not even for a Webley-Fosbery armed, Scottish Red Coat Pirate Hunk like Cmd. McDod???
http://www.motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/0912/ask-yourself-bad-day-sean-connery-demotivational-poster-1259989143.jpg
;-)
Isolde, @ #14,
Jul 01st, 2012 - 03:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I fully understand your point of view.
Assange, whatever his accusers say, has twisted the tail of the tiger.
This comes with repercussions, and he is totally aware that the laws of nations can be manipulated to make this happen.
This is the exercising of power, of brute-politics, over the process of the laws of the various lands.
Nobody would want to submit to courts subject to brutal - and international - arm-twisting;
the chance of acquittal would be minimal,
the impact of a false judgement far-reaching on so many fronts.
When you step up and expose the bad (and good) behaviour of governments, you know they will get you in the end.
The trick is to stay alive, and free, for as long as possible.
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[So many suitors, Isolde, and the frustrations of their knowing that you are not for them.]
“Mr Assange did not feel safe from US extradition in the UK. We are all too aware of the abuses of the US-UK extradition treaty.”
Jul 01st, 2012 - 06:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I thought the Anglos were nothing but benevolent abiders of international law. So a Brit herself admits that is bullsheet.
Nice to know some of them are honest.
When I say the exact same thing, I'm called an anglophobe. I get it, outsiders may not criticize.
I just wish the Brits would take their own advice and f'k off Argentine internal matters.
The US would have great difficulty prosecuting Assange, the US goverment is probably hoping that Ecudor grants asylum.
Jul 01st, 2012 - 08:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@26GeoffWard2,
Jul 01st, 2012 - 09:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Welcome back, Geoff.
l haven't heard from you for months.
l'm happy that someone agrees with me about the US justice system.
l'm positive that they(with the connivance of our government) are out to get him.
Anyway, everyone is entitled to their own opinion & l'll leave this touchy subject now.
@27TTT,
At least we can criticize our government, can you do that?
l like individual Americans but l do not like a lot of their interferring foreign policy.
They have dragged us into wars in lraq & Afghanistan which l oppose.
FYI, Not many of us are really interested in Argentine internal matters.
lts merely a defence mechanism against your malvinista lies.
@25Think,
Why is Sean Connery wearing strong cross straps? giggle /snigger.
How do you know what Cmd McDod looks like?
'The US would have great difficulty prosecuting Assange ...' #28
Jul 01st, 2012 - 09:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I guess this is why there is no request for extradition/rendition,
and why the black arts - via a third country - are being deployed.
@31
Jul 01st, 2012 - 10:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Of course I can, I can go out and shout CFK is a whore. So?
Aren't strikes against the government opposition? They seem free to do as the please, even putting other citizens at risk. That is one heck of freedom of speech that exists in no other country. In most places your rights end upon infringing on others. Not in ARG.
Don't call her a whore.
Jul 02nd, 2012 - 07:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0l don't like her but she is not a whore.
@25 I'm your greatest fan (I know that isn't saying much given how few fans you have ) but you need to take a break. The edge has gone off your humour and you seem to me to be just going through the motions. Bariloche sounds to be having good snow. Why not take a few days off and sharpen your edges?
Jul 02nd, 2012 - 09:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0#33
Jul 02nd, 2012 - 09:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0Agree.
Even the 'greats' - Think, Elaine and Forgetit, get distinctly colourless, bitchy or just rude at times.
Everybody gets jaded and needs to take time away.
#10 “ I find it incredulous that a Member of the British Legal System, condones his breach!”
Jul 02nd, 2012 - 01:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So you find it incredulous that an accused has a defence lawyer?! As even Conqueror pointed out!
#14, 24 etc Brilliantly put Isolde =)
#34 Am I one of the “greats”? Hope I'm never too dull or rude =)
@35
Jul 02nd, 2012 - 04:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No you are just a very odd individual who worries a lot of people on here.
#35
Jul 02nd, 2012 - 05:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It goes without saying .... Great_British_K...
And, as I said, you make me lol.
(33) Cmd McDod
Jul 02nd, 2012 - 05:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ohhh my………. ohhh my……
First, you open the gates, telling the world that “You’re now making up for having abstained from mind altering drugs, excess alcohol, excessive debt, dubious sexual practices and promiscuous partner swapping during the last 38 years………..”
And then you get all prudish over an innocent snapshot from the best “Cross-Dressser” British film I have ever seen……….: ZARDOZ.
How can that be…………?
You are a Scot; best Cross-Dressers in the whole Kingdom.
You are a “Per Mare Per Terram”; best Cross-Dressers in the whole British Forces.
You have been stationed quite close to Port Stanley, Cross-Dressers capital of the World.
Anyhow; as I have said in here before…..
I’m not here to make friends or fans or whatever………
I’m here because I’m pissed off with some British common thieves that “Think” they can come down here, steal what they want and then ridiculize us for acting in response…………
@38 There now, that wasn't difficult was it? Much more like the Think we know and look forward to reading. Now off you go on to newer items and don't let me have to fire you up again.
Jul 02nd, 2012 - 07:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(39) Cmd McDod
Jul 02nd, 2012 - 08:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If it’s quality you are after, you should stop reading my correspondence with the Female Colonials in here………….
For obvious reasons I have to keep all contact with them at a ”Me Tarzan, you Jane” level, you know………………
It makes them chuckle, giggle and snigger………….
Dear Think #40,
Jul 02nd, 2012 - 10:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Tarzan eh?
Try reading William Golding's The Inheritors - you may find greater affinity with Lok.
A good read.
Think, you crack me up :)
Jul 03rd, 2012 - 06:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0“For obvious reasons I have to keep all contact with them at a ”Me Tarzan, you Jane” level, you know………………”
That is pure honesty :)
But hey, while our women changes the course of history, some other women continues mentioning the looks and clothing of the less lucky ones :)
Think,
Jul 03rd, 2012 - 08:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0Zardoz was a stupid film. Sean Connery was much too good for the plot.
And stop making up new words, l've never heard of “ridiculize” before.
We are not stealing anything but Argentina would like to steal from us.
How frustrating for you, dear Think.
You still didn'r answer the question, Thinkus Prudus.
1 - And Nazi war criminals :( shame on SA
Jul 03rd, 2012 - 11:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0(43) Educating Isolde…………………………..
Jul 03rd, 2012 - 05:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sometimes you make me feel like Dr. Frank Bryant……..
1) Zardoz is a Cult Movie, girl!
2) Ridiculize:
Verb
1. To make ridiculous; to ridicule.
2. Seldom used base verb from the following inflections: ridiculizing, ridiculized, ridiculizes, ridiculizer, ridiculizers, ridiculizingly and ridiculizedly.
http://www.websters-online-dictionary.org/definitions/Ridiculize
Argentina gave safe haven to hundreds if not thousands of nazi war criminals after the war. This shows they are a kind and moral country a safe haven for perpetrators of some of the worse crimes against humanity this century, and Rgs moralise and critise the UK About trying to help extradite a wanted criminal. Grow a pair, except your humiliating past history and move on.
Jul 03rd, 2012 - 08:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@45 Correcting Think,
Jul 04th, 2012 - 10:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0That word is not in my Dictionary, Cher Think.
Maybe an American word. Not relevant here. Try again Think.
l don't care what Zardoz was, but in my opinion it wasn't very good.
The answer to my question please, oh righteous one. lf you're game!
@41 GeoffWard2,
l'm not too keen on fictional books. l often find that true stories are much more interesting.
But one work of fiction l did like was called “River of Darkness”, set in Moçambique in the 60s or early 70s.
Can't remember the author.
(47) Isolde
Jul 04th, 2012 - 05:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Not “American” nor “Irrelevant”…………
*Chapman’s Homer.
The Odyssey...:
“Judgement and Duty should our age allow
As full joyes therein as in youth and blood,
See all yong anger and reproofe withstood
For not at first sight giving up in armes,
My heart still trembling, lest the false alarmes
That words oft strike up should RIDICULIZE me”
*George Chapman (c. 1559 – 12 May 1634)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Chapman
You’ll have to get up earlier in the morning to keep up with this old Geezer, lass….
Thats very interesting Cher Think & completely “irrelevant” to our discussions re Julian Assange or anything else for that matter.
Jul 05th, 2012 - 09:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0The word is not in my dictionary & l can find no use for it so you can have it, for you found it.☼☼☼☼
Think, why has Sean Connery got such strong cross straps on the outfit that he's almost wearing?
l do get up very early, not so old geezer Think.
Don't you just love the sunrise?
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