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Wales Falklands Memorial re-dedicated on the 30th anniversary of the conflict
Wales' Falklands Memorial has been re-dedicated to mark the 30th anniversary of the conflict which saw 32 Welsh Guards among the fallen. The ceremony was part of the Armed Forces Day events in Cardiff and was attended by Falklands’ lawmaker Dick Sawle. Read full article
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Jul 03rd, 2012 - 07:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@1 - Boovis
Jul 03rd, 2012 - 10:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No this was a serious memorial, they wouldn't want any Argtards jumping all over it.
They'd better put a few Welsh Guards on duty to bitch slap any Argtard that comes near.
Hello,
Jul 04th, 2012 - 12:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I’ts a shame that no one mentioned the possibility that young men from Argentina’s Welsh community were presumably co-opted into their national army and some may have been maimed or killed in the Falklands’ war.
By the way, these Celtic people have been in Patagonia for more than 150 years and still speak Welsh.
Of course, I totally agree with the Islanders’ right to self-determination but I can’t help feeling that the ‘sovereignty dispute’ is REALLY about WHICH huge, amoral, multinational speculator will gain a monopoly to ruthlessly exploit the area’s marine an mineral resources.
Jim, in Madrid.
@3 Jim.
Jul 04th, 2012 - 02:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0When the Argentinians invaded in 1982, causing these young men to go to war to liberate the Islanders, no one knew there was oil around the Falklands.
These days, though, I have to admit that Argentina has got its greedy eyes on the mineral wealth of the Falklands, despite the fact that Argentina has plenty of mineral wealth of their own which they could exploit, but can't due to corruption and ineptitude.
As usual the Falklands are being used by the Argentinian government as a distraction to their economic woes.
The people of the Falklands will do very well out of the exploitation of the mineral resources, that's true, but they never forget the price that these young men paid to ensure their freedom and their future.
I remember them by raising a glass and toasting: Iechyd da!
3 JimHandley (#)
Jul 04th, 2012 - 04:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It doesn't really matter if a “huge, amoral, multinational speculator will gain a monopoly to ruthlessly exploit the area’s marine an mineral resources” because the control over the exploitation will be in the hands of the FIG not the corrupt Argentine government.
For: 4 LEPRecon (#)
Jul 04th, 2012 - 07:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Much of your comment is perfectly correct. But many years’ prior to the Falklands War, the PROBABILITY of finding commercially viable gas/oil deposits in local waters WAS being widely discussed by mining industry geologists. And of course, the region’s plentiful, valuable marine life was ALREADY being ruthlessly overfished by many countries’ floating factories.
For: 5 Simon68 (#)
Re: control over the exploitation will be in the hands of the FIG not the corrupt Argentine government...
For your own sake, I certainly hope you’re right. But from where I see things, our ‘orrible lot of ‘Freedom-loving Leaders’ are only slightly lesser scoundrels than Argentina’s bunch of crooks. In one aspect, our lot are perhaps, morally worse. For –wrapped in the virginally pure white cloak of democracy– they’ll predicate transparent sincerity to the bleeding rooftops, until the proverbial cows come home. Meanwhile, our devious politicians permit certain of our Bankers, Media Moguls, et cetera, to lie and swindle their way into making themselves outrageously fabulous fortunes.
Of course, many inordinately costly enquiries have been initiated but preciously few cell doors have been heard to slam! And in far too many instances, the taxpayer has been left to ‘lift the tab’ for so much reckless incompetence and –in some cases– downright criminality.
Furtheremore, in my view –before long –an ever-burgeoning world population will demand the FAIR sharing of the planet’s rapidly diminishing natural resources. And guess what? – it’ll be ‘Deja vu all over again’
Last recession: 1929 to 1930. Outcome: WWII.
Jim, in Madrid.
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Jul 04th, 2012 - 07:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0When you refer to 'our orrible lot', I assume you mean the Spanish 'orrible lot', I notice you are pontificating in Iberia. Do you also honestly think there will be a fair sharing of the planets natural resources? It will be survival if the fittest as it is in all aspects of nature and as it has always been in human history.
For: 7 Britworker (#)
Jul 04th, 2012 - 09:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Perhaps, Sire, you’ll graciously condescend in refraining from making future comments upon my place of residence. For my choice of abode is completely irrelevant to our discussion. And anyway, Mate, it’s bugger-all to do with you!
I’m a former professional soldier who joined the army as a 14 years’ old boy soldier. Subsequently, I fought in REAL, long, bloody, bitter, ultimately futile war –not merely in the deplorable yet relatively minor Falklands’ skirmish. Sorry to have to be so brutally frank but I’m utterly pissed-off by hearing so many ‘mouthy’ unthinking, flag-waving ‘ersatz patriots’, utter so many gratuitous, imbecilic insults about almost anyone who happens to be an ‘infelicitous bloody foreigner’. And this silly old sod USED to think that among few virtues we Brits’ gave to humanity were those of ‘Justice for All’ and of ‘Fair Play, regardless of Race’!
When I said ‘our lot’ I’m sure you knew EXACTLY to whom I referred. Or are you so ill-informed as not to have heard of the Leveson Enquiry nor to know that the Boss of the UK’s Barclays’ Bank is the 'geyser' who was quizzed by members of the BRITISH Parliament today?
Out of respect, I’ll not comment on the details our US cousins’ equally scandalous financial affairs.
So, ‘come awf it Lad! I’m afraid you’ll have to rouse yourself a good deal earlier in the day, to be nearly able enough to take the piss out of this old soldier!!!
CORRECTION TO MY PREVIOUS MESSAGE:
For: “Last recession: 1929 to 1930.” Read: “Last recession: 1929 to 1939.”
Jim, in Madrid –‘cos he jolly well pleases!
6 JimHandley (#)
Jul 05th, 2012 - 01:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I, unlike Britworker, immediately assumed you meant Cameron and his colleagues.
The big difference as I see it is that the FIG is voted in by an electorate of around 1.300. I would imagine that they know their representatives pretty well, being part of a total population of 3.149.
Our mis-government is made up of the Robber Queen and her claque of yes-men, all of whom, without exception, a richer than they should be after a short time in power. Even a lot of our Federal Judges should be investigated for illegal enrichment!!
This convinces me that the exploitation of resources under the control of the FIG, not the Coalition Government, is a definetly a safer bet than being controlled by the Argentine Government.
@9
Jul 08th, 2012 - 12:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Simon and of course as has been mentioned many times. The islanders were willing to offer Argentina a slice of the action before Nestor walked out of talks. Some SA posters here say Argentina do not want to prevent FIG running things, and prevent the Islanders being independent , but think that Arghentian should get some of the South Atlantic resources. Exactly what FIG offered before Nestor walked out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
10 Pete Bog (#)
Jul 08th, 2012 - 03:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That is about par for the course with the Kirchner blight. They seem to be infected with the “Cut Off Your Nose To Spite Your Face” bug!!!!
Gentlemen,
Jul 08th, 2012 - 08:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0At the risk of my being too, too, reiterative, may I make a few additional points, which I should think ought to be obvious to any intelligent person...
Almost all politicians are self-publicising, megalomaniac ‘posers’. And if a competition were held to find the worst of this shameless ‘bunch of chancers’. I’m sure that Argentina’s present rulers would effortlessly take the gold medal.
Prior to 1982 invasion, the Kelpers’ BRITISH STATUS wasn’t EXACTLY at the head of the F & C. O.’s agenda. But the fact that then Mrs Thatcher’s husband had a long history as a top international petroleum industry executive –and as such, he MUST have known of the potential offshore gas/oil riches involved– may have had at least summat to do with Britain’s decision to recuperate its sovereignty over a long neglected yet suddenly, such a possibly lucrative territory. Remember that at precisely that same time, our North Sea reserves had just begun to run out!
So if I may be so presumptuous as to offer my friendly advice to the Falklanders’...
Follow the time-honoured military maxim: ‘Trust only your PROVEN, CLOSE COMRADES and try to cover your arses against every eventuality imaginable!’ Never rely on politicians’ promises. Hedge your bets by making alliances with as many rich and powerful factions as you can!
Cheers!
Jim, in Madrid.
@12
Jul 09th, 2012 - 07:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0All of what you have said in nonsense. Oil or no oil, the British government would not abandon 3000 of its own people if they were usurped by a military Junta that killed 30,000 of its own people, we aren't some sort of slime ball nation that drops its beliefs like that, we stand true for what we believe in, in accordance with the “British spirit” and we don't abandon our people.
For: 13 Conor (#)
Jul 09th, 2012 - 11:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0Dear Sir,
For one who has the honour to bear such a distinguished Celtic, IRISH name, I must say, that –despite History’s bitter lessons– you show a singularly heartrending trust in the LONDON government’s ‘limitless, unbounded, self-sacrificing benevolence’! Of course, I’m NOT suggesting that ALL Englishmen are egotistical rogues, nor that all others are saints. But –in a extraordinarily rare bout of lucid honesty– one old-time ‘politico’ DID wisely declare, “Politics is the art of the possible”. And, given the U.K.’s present and future economic prospects –well, why don’t YOU tell THIS nonsense-spouting old fool what IS likely to be possible and for that matter, EXACTLY what the future holds for humanity?
In my young days, I studied Physics and in common with most of my colleagues, I’m utterly convinced that the world’s most pressing problem is that of environmental degradation and its inevitable, disastrous consequences for EVERYONE on earth. Before too long, ozone layer depletion could make the Falklands a place ‘hazardous for human health”!
Meanwhile, the multinational controlled media deliberately misinforms the great undereducated masses and relentlessly stimulates an artificial demand for the excessive, ever expanding, over-consumption of their sponsors’ products –so many of which are totally superfluous to a salubrious, dignified, worthwhile life!
We’re living in a fools’ paradise! And frankly, our so-called world leaders, couldn’t give a SHIT. Anyway, too many of ‘em arise from the ranks of the Law and although well versed in the ‘dark litigious arts’(aka: living high-on-the-hog from others’ misfortune) most of ‘em are quite ignorant of the vitally important matters of science and engineering.
Surely, we ought to learn summat from a chilling fact, which may presage the future in store for others –there’s no immutable natural canon stating that a white skin immunes one against abject poverty!
Each and every day, TWENTY-TWO THOUSAND T
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