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Puricelli in China praises the Hong Kong model as a good precedent for Malvinas
Argentine Defence Minister Arturo Puricelli currently on a visit to Beijing underlined defence cooperation with China and said the “Hong Kong model” was a significant precedent for “the Malvinas cause”. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rules“The experience of China in negotiating the recovery of Hong Kong means for us a relevant precedent for the dialogue we are expecting to have on Malvinas on a near future”.
Jul 05th, 2012 - 07:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0Who are they going to have this dialogue with?. And how is the Hong kong model useful. Saying that Puricell is a bit retarded with all the crap about the Falkland islanders being held against their will lol
Mr Vermicelli is one hopeful sonofabitch I'll give him that.
Jul 05th, 2012 - 07:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0It has to be said that Puricelli's constant reference to the Falklands in the context of Argentine military/defence events somewhat contradicts “give peace a chance”...
Jul 05th, 2012 - 07:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0The difference is the people of Hong Kong were happy to go back to China under certain conditions, the people of the Falklands dont want to be Argentines under any condition!
Jul 05th, 2012 - 08:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0The UK leased the New Territories from China and it was the Hong Kong Chinese that made HK what it was today. As the leased territories became an integral part of the entire HK territory it was the logical solution to pass soverignty of the entire area once the lease expired. No such lease exists in the Falkland Islands so there is no comparable model.
Jul 05th, 2012 - 08:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0This guy is a muppet of the highest order.
The Argies are having themselves on if they are reading the signs coming from Cameron etc as a prelude to sovereignty negotiations about the Falklands.
Jul 05th, 2012 - 08:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0The more the Argies suck up to China the less the Americans will trust them or want anything to do with them. The Chinese are smart and will sell whatever military hardware they can to Argentina without really committing themselves to a strategic alliance half a world away.Besides the Chinese look at history in the long run and recognise Argentina as a nutty fascist loser of a country while being too polite to say so.I suppose if China supports the Argie claim to the Falklands then as an act of reciprocity Argentina should support the Chinese claim to the South China Sea thus falling out with Japan ,Vietnam, the Philippines ,Taiwan,Malaysia and Indonesia. More smart Argie diplomacy in action.
As for the Hong Kong precedent this is nonsense in so many ways;
the British and Chinese had an lease agreement which Britain stuck to (where is the Falklands lease agreement?) and Hong Kong is about 99% populated by ethnic Chinese.Is the Falklands populated by 99% ethnic Argentinian (if there is such a thing) ?
Puricelli must have forgotten to take his pills on the day he made such stupid remarks.
The Argies are stuck in a 1940s to 1970s rut and cannot see that the Falklands, Britain and the world have moved on.
Following his visit to China, Mr Vermicelli is planning a trip to Germany and offer his support for their historic claim to the Sudetanland.
Jul 05th, 2012 - 08:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0He will then visit Britain and suggest a swap of the Falklands for “peace in our time”
The people in Hong Kong are chinese.... the people in the Falklands are not diegos........
Jul 05th, 2012 - 08:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0Hong Kong is a prime example of how good governments behave. An agreement was made to lease HK from china for 99 years. When that lease expired HK was handed to the Chinese.
Jul 05th, 2012 - 08:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0Unfortunately some governments can't manage to stick to agreements and treaties
“The experience of China in negotiating the recovery of Hong Kong means for us a relevant precedent for the dialogue we are expecting to have on Malvinas on a near future”.
Jul 05th, 2012 - 09:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0And this means what? Basically, Hong Kong consisted of three areas. Hong Kong Island ceded to Britain by the Treaty of Nanking in 1842. Kowloon ceded to Britain by the Treaty of Beijing in 1860. The New Territories leased by Britain under The Convention for the Extension of Hong Kong Territory in 1898. No part of the Falkland Islands (there are NO Malvinas) has ever been the sovereign territory of argieland. The Islands have NEVER been ceded to or leased by Britain. They are about as British as you can get without actually being in Britain. Not one of the argie muppets that get on here have EVER proved differently! They come out with “reason” after “justification” after “reason”. And every single “argument” ever advanced has proved to be either a “misinterpretation” or, let's be honest about it, a lie!!
To the best of my recollection, they have come up with:
1. That all Spanish territories became theirs when they declared independence. Except that no such “right” exists or has ever existed in international law;
2. That their “rights” follow from the principle of “succession of states”. Except that that principle wasn't defined until the mid-20th century and, in any event, requires the prior state to formally cede rights and responsibilities;
3. That the principle of “uti possidetis juris” applies. Although they can't point to the law or treaty involved;
4. That they occupied the Islands. Much like any trespasser occupies the property on which he/she/it trespasses.
5. That an argie population was “evicted”. Except that it wasn't. As if the eviction of a trespasser gives the trespasser the right to claim the property.
Why do they let Putrid Jelly out in public? Why do they let him open his mouth?
As for a “dialogue” in the near future; Talk to the hand!
Maybe Puricelli hasn't seen the pro-democracy marches, or the complaints from the lcoals that Chinese interference has reduced Hong Kong's competitiveness in global business, or that “dragon” immigrants from the mainland are causing no end of problems for the Hong Kong chinese and that, given about 25 years, Hong Kong will just be another over-polluted crap Chinese territory and a shadow of it's former self as a major centre of trade, finance, and democracy.
Jul 05th, 2012 - 09:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://falklandsnews.wordpress.com/2012/07/05/puricellis-expectations-on-the-falklands/
Jul 05th, 2012 - 09:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0:-)
Is it a pre-requirement for Argentine politicians to be idiots?
Jul 05th, 2012 - 09:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0I don't know how the Argentine Government can say that the Falklands is the same as Hong Kong. We leased the island of Hong Kong from the China for 99 years and then the lease ran out it then was given back to China. There is and never has been any such agreement with Argentina as the Falklands islands has never belonged to Argentina so how can I give them back? I sometimes squirm with embarrassment when I pick up my daily dispatches and see such utter amateur goings on in Argentina, don't the people of Argentina know how the amateurs that form their Government are letting them down. I thank God everyday that the people that vote In the United Kingdom have ever lasting freedom to vote out any incompetent Government like they always do unlike the people in Argentina who seem to be shafted by any Tom Dick or Christina.
Jul 05th, 2012 - 10:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0#9 “Hong Kong is a prime example of how good governments behave. An agreement was made to lease HK from china for 99 years”
Jul 05th, 2012 - 10:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0After we first stole it as part of our conditions for ending a war we launched on China with the full might of our new industrial revolution military for daring to not accept our drug dealing in their territory. The other, main, condition, was the resumption of the opium trade which ruined millions of lives in China for another hundred years. The sad thing is you probably didn't even see the irony in holding such a legacy up as an example of “decent government”. We Brits have done a lot right in our own country, but we really must learn to see how the world feels about what we've done abroad and cut the self righteousness
I'm actually in Hong Kong on holiday at the moment and I had a chat with a local student about how they felt about things since the handover in 97
Jul 05th, 2012 - 10:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0He said they were pretty worried about what will happen in 2047 - 50 years after Chinese control - when the agreement to leave things as they are expires. He said a lot of people felt more comfortable in “colonial” times. Full independence wasn't on the table and so the people of Hong Kong were not offered true self determination.
This was a clear case of the 150 year British lease expiring and handing the territory back. There is no hand back in the case of the Falklands - they are British unless the Islanders decide otherwise
@4 Jay (#) Jul 05th, 2012 - 08:06 am
Jul 05th, 2012 - 10:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0Actually no. As I understand it the differences are that Hong Kong was always a part of China and it was on a 99 year lease following a British invasion of Chinese territory..
The Falkland Islands were never a part of Argentina, there is no lease in place and the British did not take the islands illegally. Except of course in the fevered imagination of a Malvinista and the KFC administration.
A quick glance at any map will show that Hong Kong is within rowing distance of China. The Falklands are 400 miles from Argentina. No comparison can be made.
Jul 05th, 2012 - 10:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0My Friend Michael Buerk summed up Argentina quite nicely, must remenber to put him up for a knighthood this year
Jul 05th, 2012 - 10:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0Thirty years after the end of the Falklands War, Argentina's president, Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner, has launched a diplomatic campaign to gain control of the islands of such breathtaking hypocrisy she makes Jimmy Carr look like Martin Bell.
At the UN, in the breaks of the latest G20 summit, every time she opens her mouth it seems, she's been accusing Britain of naked colonialism, demanding we hand the islands, and the 3000 British citizens who live there, over to her.
Colonialism - that's rich, coming from a country of European immigrants whose national policy has been to wipe out all trace of the people they snatched it from. Argentina's 97% white, according the census. Wonder what happened to the Indian tribes who once flourished on the Pampas? Well, what do you know; they were deliberately exterminated in a series of genocidal military operations in the 19th century.
Wonder what happened to those strange little folk Darwin found down in Tierra del Fuego? “Short, round, oily creatures, four feet fully grown, mostly stark naked despite the intense cold, with a curious talent for mimicry”, was how he described them. Not any more. They were declared vermin and a pound was paid for every decapitated head. Wonder what happened to all those black African slaves - more than a third of Argentina's population at one time? Let me tell you. Thousands upon thousands of black men were forcibly recruited into the army, packed into the front line, deliberately used as cannon fodder in bloody campaigns against the natives and the neighbours. The black women and children either succumbed to disease or were simply assimilated into the floods of Italian and Spanish incomers. Blanqueamiento -“white washing” was official policy for generations. The blatantly racist constitution has only recently been relaxed.
Anyway I will finish what he wrote later.
@19 Do carry on. I love this piece.
Jul 05th, 2012 - 11:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0Since Hong Kong Island itself was actually Crown territory and always acknowledges as such by China, I assume that very soon now Arg will be recognising that the Falklands are indeed British territory?
Jul 05th, 2012 - 11:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well pureCrap has said there are close similarities!!!
Sr. Puricelli seems to be ignorant of two major differences: 1)Hong Kong actually is in China, not 300 miles distant, and 2) no one, except greedy, bankrupt Argentinians and those who toady to them, want the Falkland Islands (get the name right, too) to be part of Argentina. I am ashamed that my country (USA) the leading advocate for the rights of the Falkland Islands and its citizens.
Jul 05th, 2012 - 12:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Let’s put it this way,
Jul 05th, 2012 - 12:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Imagine the following,
A giant 50ft tall = china
A man 6ft tall =Britain.
An ant one inch high=Argentina,
It will never happen my friends,
It will never happen.
Go home and concentrate on argentina, and leave the islands alone,
Before you humiliate yourselves [ AGAIN ]
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This is oviously an attempt from the Argentinians to be “friends” with the Chinese and indirectly say to the UK “look we have bigger boys on our side now”
Jul 05th, 2012 - 01:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I just pray that the Chinese aren’t stupid enough to join in with the Argentinian mantra, where this consequently leads to some sort of military confrontation in the future.
No matter how much retort is interchanged between both parties I can confidently say that the stance of the Argentinians will never change, as long as they have their brainwashing indoctrination and bending of the truth with regards to their claim over the Islands.
Moreover, how would we defend the Islands in the event of an invasion within say 10 years time? given the recent announcements of a further 20,000 personnel being cut from our military.
Is the UK on it’s own with regards to defending the Falklands?
Another day, another grining Argentine tit.
Jul 05th, 2012 - 01:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“The experience of China in negotiating the recovery of Hong Kong means for us a relevant precedent for the dialogue we are expecting to have on Malvinas on a near future”
It was not negociated it was leased to the UK for 99 years and handed back following the end of the lease. The Falklands were not leased, so thithere is no comparison. Maybe someone should of given him a history book to read on the plane before putting his foor well and truely in his mouth. Also, you cant exacly hold China up as the pinacle of uman rights and not colonsists can we, lets not forget Tibet which is a Chinese colony held aginst the will of the people.
It is bewildering reading this article. Is it a translation issue, or has Arturo Puricelli really missed the point of his own statement?
Jul 05th, 2012 - 01:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Chinese leased Hong Kong to the British ...
Argentina never owned The Falklands and therefore as simple as 1-2-3, no lease could ever have been or could ever be issued by Argentina. The only people capable of issuing a lease in The Falklands are the Islanders themselves and that would be to someone other than the Islanders where this to occur.
Arturo Puricelli really is grasping at straws. Next he'll be pointing out the similarities in taste between Dim Sum and Argentine beef.
Argentine diplomacy is all over the place, rudderless, drifting and without intellectual direction. Not to mention the 'defence' element of Puricelli's trip to China. China always gets its pound of flesh!
There's an old saying that could be applied to Argentina today ... 'If the Dutch lived in Argentina, they would thrive. If the Argentines lived in Holland, they would drown'
@24 tonto (#) Jul 05th, 2012 - 01:17 pm
Jul 05th, 2012 - 01:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Is the UK on it’s own with regards to defending the Falklands?”
Depends. If Argentina 'went it alone' then the UK would likely be standing alone too but here is the twist. Note that most countries regard this as a bilateral issue between the UK and Argentina and for the purposes of foreign affairs this is correct although the FIG would lead discussions on the British side. If Argentina were to 'bring some friends along', then it is no longer a bilateral issue and a lot of folks would climb down off the fence.
The UK can deal with Argentina. As it stands the UK could probably deal with Argentina and another country or two but if another country or two did decide to go military against the UK over the issue it would no longer be a bilateral issue. All bets would then be off.
“Is the UK on it’s own with regards to defending the Falklands?”
Jul 05th, 2012 - 01:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No. We have many friends in the World today, culturally, economically and militarily. Even if we were, it brings out the very best in us and THAT is what wins wars!
4 Jay (#)
Jul 05th, 2012 - 03:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0HK people, Gibraltar people & Malvinas people surely want to be british (I dont think HK people prefer China regime)
but the difference is (and you know it) that HK was returned to China for an Agreement , Gibraltar to UK for a treaty, but Malvinas was stolen by british. THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE , when you can understand that you can write in this forum properly.
a territorial integrity of a state is first that the desire of the invaders.
#29 nitrojuan
Jul 05th, 2012 - 03:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0”but the difference is (and you know it) that HK was returned to China for an Agreement , Gibraltar to UK for a treaty, but I have been led to believe through a process of indoctrination that began when I was very small that Malvinas was stolen by british.”
There - fixed that for you.
@15 What's with all this “we” crap? You're not British and you're not in Britain. You're too far out of date. And WE have memories. TROLL.
Jul 05th, 2012 - 03:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 029-Nitro- your history is as hopleless as Puisilly,s! HongKong Island WAS British Sovereign Crown Territory- no dispute with the Chinese there at all.
Jul 05th, 2012 - 03:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The New Territories were on a Lease and it expired- and HongKong Island was not viable anymore without the New Territiories area so it was logical to at the same time hand over HongKong Island to the legitimate owner of the New Territories - bearing in mind that folks on both sides were the same ethnic origen-language etc etc. With certain safeguards built in which the Chinese are and will continue to uphold - they would be daft not to.
Do enlighten us as to how and when the Islands were “stolen” and from whom? Just so we can all tear the old arguments to bits yet again.
Have you heard yet when your Govt is going to agree to sit down with the Islands Govt and talk about mutual matters that concern both- but are actually not the responsibilty of UK?
@29 Who exacly were the Falklands stolen from?
Jul 05th, 2012 - 03:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Not Argentina as there was no such country in 1833.
Soverign integrity can not apply as you dont have a border and the Islands were more than 1000 miles from the mainland of what is now Argentina in 1833. The conquest of the desert (in which Patagonia became part of Argentina) did not occur untill the 1870s. In addition soverign integrity cannot apply as the there was a sovernity dispute at the time of 1833 between Spain and the UK. You cannot inherit land from another nation which is currently disputed. The british government intailly founded a settlement in 1765.
When you can understand facts and hisotry you can write in this forum properly.
I fail to see any political parallel between Hong Kong and the Falkland Islands.
Jul 05th, 2012 - 03:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There are no parallels at all.
Jul 05th, 2012 - 04:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Another case of astounding bare faced lies by whiny manipulative peronist Argentina.
20 Furry-Fat-Feck. I do so like that you love what my friend Michal had to say about Argentina I ran out of space or I would have continued. So I am now going to carry on.
Jul 05th, 2012 - 04:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Wonder what happened to all those black African slaves - more than a third of Argentina's population at one time? Let me tell you. Thousands upon thousands of black men were forcibly recruited into the army, packed into the front line, deliberately used as cannon fodder in bloody campaigns against the natives and the neighbours. The black women and children either succumbed to disease or were simply assimilated into the floods of Italian and Spanish incomers.
Blanqueamiento -“white washing” was official policy for generations. The blatantly racist constitution has only recently been relaxed.
Result: Argentina is so white that the most prominent of the handful of blacks was arrested at the airport because officials just assumed her Argentine passport must be false.
Don't get me wrong, I love the place and the people. They're brilliant at life but disastrous at government. They invented the Tango and thought politics should be broadly similar: a substitute for sex, performed on the streets, brainless, showy, exciting and doomed. That's how they've ended up being ruled by a succession of self-glorifying Ruritanian birdbrains and their molls.
Inevitably, it all goes horribly wrong at regular intervals and they have to find a way of distracting the mob on the street.
Mrs Kirchner stands high above that mob on the balcony of the Casa Rosada when she accuses us of the evils of imperialism.
But the moral high ground, believe me, it isn't.
You see lads and lady's as I have always said to Samantha the pen is always mightier than the sword a few well chosen words from someone who actually knows what is going on will always put the boot up the backside of any enemy where it hurts as they don't like to be reminded of past transgressions that are not that old.
All the best your glorious leader Dave
So Putridjelly scores another own goal! No surprise there then.
Jul 05th, 2012 - 05:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Chin are never taken in, especially by those not of 'The Middle Kingdom' where even the most lowly labourer considers himself to be better than any westerner.
What they think of Argentina is anyone's guess, but not much I would imagine.
We could start a 'balloon' competition for what the Chin Military Officer is thinking when he shakes Putrijellies hand.
'Who is this turd of the lowest class' is always a good Chinese quote and certainly applies here.
LOL as ever.
KPI´s CHINA-ARGENTINA
Jul 05th, 2012 - 06:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 01) “We’re signalling a new starting point for the construction of a real bilateral strategic association in defence cooperation with China”
2) “..sustained support from China for Argentina’s sovereignty claim over the Malvinas Islands”
3) “..the signing of the memorandum on defence cooperation which includes combined joint military exercises…”
4) “The Argentine minister later gave a second conference ………….. at the Defence School from the National University of China, … Over 330 officers from the three services attended the conference.”
5) “Argentina and China are strategic partners with relevant joint work projects…”
6) “advancing links in defence issues”.
7) “… looks to consolidate new defence relations with China with whom we share from the strategic defence concept of our military instruments to a cooperative vision of interernational security”
8) “..China is becoming an important partner of our defence industry..”
9) “Defence minister .. visit China’s main naval base …, the most powerful and an example of the growing naval strength of China.”
Conclusion:
Sooner than later Malvinas will return to Argentina, thats a fact and no doubts about it.
Is just sad see clear signs how that could be realized in the the future only because intransigence and unwise behave from Perfidious Albion.
Latam doesn´t want or whish this but neither will allow anymore disgusting arrogance and resources thief´s from Britain in the next years, and thats a fact too.
@38
Jul 05th, 2012 - 06:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Sooner than later Malvinas will return to Argentina, thats a fact and no doubts about it.”
I wouldn't get your hopes up mate.
CHINA is practically surrounded by not to good friends,
Jul 05th, 2012 - 06:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They are watched like hawks,
There are militaries all over the mainland stretching all the way down to the end of the Philippines,
Who distrust china?
Believe me silly Argies, china has enough potential problems on its own doorstep,
And the last thing she needs is a loony prima Donna Barbie doll, thinking the china will come to her aid and attack Britain.
Will you Argies please please STOP embarrassing yourselves .
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38. So near and yet (so_far)
Jul 05th, 2012 - 06:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sad bastard. Thought he had died and gone to heaven until he realized he'd pissed his pants and was dreaming.
#39
Jul 05th, 2012 - 07:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Is only logic and common sense
British islanders will always be invaders until they fix accounts with LatAm and Argentina.
Not need to be too smart to realize that in 179 they reach nothing and nothing at all will reach in the future.
Nobody will accept nor recognizes your very (ilegal) existence.
No negotiations with Argentina = No hope = No fate for Malvinas.
It is sad but is a fact.
@38
Jul 05th, 2012 - 07:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Sooner than later Malvinas will return to Argentina, thats a fact and no doubts about it”
There are some serious doubts about it:
1) The Most Argentina will ever acheive is joint soverngity (unlikely and not for a long long time)
2) The UN general assembly and security council will never take sides in the dispute.
3) Argentina has no military might to force the issue.
4) China will NEVER go to war with the UK over the issue as it would likely that the other powers would be pulled in and we would see world war 3.
However, I stand ready to be corrected, can you provide me with some evidence that it indeed a “fact”, I dont know like a signed agreeemnt showing it will be “returned”.
Latam doesn´t want or whish this but neither will allow anymore disgusting arrogance and resources thief´s from Britain in the next years, and thats a fact too.
What is also a fact is that Argentina stole the entirety of Patagonia, the Pampa, Salta, Jujuy and many other provinces from the native populations for resources. So you might want to look a little closer to home before you start branding the rest of the world thieves.
42 so_far
Jul 05th, 2012 - 07:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nobody will accept nor recognizes your very (ilegal) existence.
No negotiations with Argentina = No hope = No fate for Malvinas.
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If that’s your opinion,
Then stay away,
And you wonder why they want nothing to do with you.
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@42
Jul 05th, 2012 - 07:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0actually
No negotiations with Argentina = Continuation of British Defacto control (as reconised by the majority of the world inc US)= No hope for Argentina.
@42
Jul 05th, 2012 - 07:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You sir are another Argentine commentator who can't provide any evidence for your claims, why don't you listen to a fellow Argentine like Mr Simon?
“And I quote We invaded the Islands illegally in April 1982, after that little mistake on our part all bets were off. The UN resolutions are non-binding, niether UK nor Argentina have to take the blindest notice of them, the only binding resolutions in this matter were 501 and 502 which demanded our troops to leave the Islands, and we didn't comply so we lost even the slightest right we may have had over the Islands. We now have absolutely no rights to them. Live with it.”
You see? Argentina has tried every political, military, social and economic measure and you have failed. Give up.
Anyone seen the helicopter argentina is buying from China?. Its a cardon copy of the Eurocopter AS350 Ecureuil (Squirrel). it is claimed to be the first indigenously-designed helicopter in China, but i don't know how because it looks like a AS350. From what ive read of chinese export helicopters their not that reliable :) so buy as may as you like argentina!
Jul 05th, 2012 - 07:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@47 The parts for the Squirrel were probably manufactured in china and someone made a few extra and sold them as genunie to the chinese government. Similar to what happends with Nike football shirts and other fashion labels.
Jul 05th, 2012 - 07:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 042 So near and yet (so far)
Jul 05th, 2012 - 07:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He has fell asleep again.
Sinodefence has a good write up on it. It's a knock off! lol
Jul 05th, 2012 - 07:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@42 - so_far
Jul 05th, 2012 - 07:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But the Falkland Islanders have lived on the Falklands longer than Argentina has existed.
Unless you are a native South American, then you are an illegal invader in South America, whose ancestors stole the land and murdered the native inhabitants.
The Falkland Islanders don't owe South America anything. All Argentina's claims have proved to be falsehoods and distortions of the truth.
Everyone BUT Argentina recognises that Falkland Islanders, and thanks to your Presidents constant screeching, crying and lying on the world stage, everyone is now aware that the Falklanders have a unique culture and way of life that is entirely different to Argetina, and that to hand them over to what is alien domination would be the worse kind of colonialism.
Just what do you object about them most? That they prefer to speak English and not Spanish, or that they have a successful democratic government, or that they are very economically sound?
Argentina only has the 'token' backing of a few countries. Let's review them shall we?
China - a dictatorship that constantly abuses people's rights (just like your military junta did), AND murders their own people (Tianamen Square anybody?)
Syria - a dictatorship busy murdering their own people (just like your military junta did).
Iran - a dictatorship, busy oppressing and murdering their own people, and a supporter of international terrorism (just like your military junta...)
Angola - a dictatorship that abuses its own people...
Need I go on? Nice 'friends' you Argentines have. No wonder no one takes Argentina seriously. Not even China, they're laughing behind your backs because you are so stupid, that you won't know what happened when they have sucked your country dry of resources and leave you for dead.
Poor deluded Malvanista. I assure you that the Falklanders will either still be British or have achieve full independence in the next 50 yrs. Argentina will have imploded or be a vassel country (province) of China.
#45
Jul 05th, 2012 - 07:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This is British Empire in 1921....look how many changes in so few years, almost 90% is gone.
Can you imagine the future about Malvinas ? I do
British Empire 1921
África
Adén (Yemen), Bechuanalandia (actual Botsuana), Basutolandia (actual Lesotho),British Togo, North Camerún,Costa de Oro (actual Ghana), Egypt,Gambia
Kenia, Mauricio, Nigeria, Rodesia del Norte (actual Zambia), Nyasalandia (actual Malaui),Sierra Leona,Somalia, Rodesia South (actual Zimbabue), /actual Namibia)
Suazilandia, Seychelles, Sudán, Southáfrica, Tanganika y Zanzíbar (actual Tanzania)
Uganda,
América y Atlantic North
Isla Ascensión y Santa Elena, Guyana Británica (actual Guyana), Honduras Británica (actual Belice),Canadá, Islas Malvinas (Argentina), Terranova (actual in Canadá), Indias,Anguila, Antigua y Barbuda, Bahamas, Barbados, Bermudas, Islands Vírgin, Caimán Islands, Dominica, Granada, Jamaica, Montserrat, San Cristóbal and Nieves
Santa Lucía, San Vicente and Granadinas, Trinidad y Tobago, Islas Turcas y Caicos
Tristán da Cunha, south Georgias (Argentina)
Asia
Baréin, Bután, Brunéi, Birmania (actual Myanmar), Ceilán (actual Sri Lanka), Hong Kong, British India (actuale India, Pakistán and Bangladesh), Irak, Kuwait, Malaya ( Malasia), Maldivas, Nepal, Palestina (actual Israel y Palestianian territories), Borneo Septentrional (actual part of Malasia), Omán, Qatar, Sarawak (part of Malasia), Singapur, Transjordania (actual Jordania), Estados de la Tregua (Emirates Árab Uniteds), Weihawei (actual city Weihai)
Europa
Gibraltar (Spain),
#46 Sr please mark not my words....is LatAm words, is UN words is the world words....Argentina NEVER will give up an inch. Thats a fact too.
how very stupid can you get,
Jul 05th, 2012 - 07:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0they asked for and got indipendence,
the falklands want to remain british,
and argentina has never ever own them.
silly boy
Just some facts about the UK's relationship with China.
Jul 05th, 2012 - 07:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.ukti.gov.uk/uktihome/media/pressRelease/191441.html
Lets give it up so that we can have a relationship with some shit hole, located somewhere in the back end on nowhere
Argentina claimed South Georgia in 1927 and claimed the South Sandwich Islands in 1938 wow.... and you wonder why no-one in the real world listens to the crap you your government talks.
Jul 05th, 2012 - 07:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0do tell me why you think you own them?
In fact the Hong Kong solution is so effective, the citizens of Hong Kong are eeerrr campaigning for more self-determination...., not sure how pure-celery figured that one out ;)
Jul 05th, 2012 - 07:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@52
Jul 05th, 2012 - 07:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Give up Mr So far, it's hopeless this debate has gone on forever an Argentina has gained nothing, the Islanders have gotten richer while Argentine stays the same with populist presidents who rant on about the islands and nothing is achieved. The status quo remains. All of the above mentioned territories had the right of self determination and they opted to leave, (Few exceptions like Hong Kong but you get my point). The Falkland islanders have chosen to remain and there is nothing you can do about it, you also fail to provide like many of your fellow commentators a plan/strategy that will make Britain negotiate, I wonder why you lot cant ever give an answer. Maybe because all that non-sence that they teach you in school is rather shallow and lacking in any real clout to provide an actual outcome. I think its rather bad for any country to teach a political point in school's I thought education was meant to be politically neutral.
Its also rather hypocritical for Argentine to complain about colonialism and the “implanted population of the Malvinas” when Argentine itself and its population are implanted into South America via colonialism, while the Falklanders are inhabiting land that was previously uninhabited. Oh and you can’t use the excuse that “we are a country and the Falkland Islander’s are a territory so they have no rights” as they were implanted on uninhabited lands while you were implanted on inhabited lands.
Drop your pathetic claim and get on with your life. You will never get them as Argentine is incapable, militarily, economically politically and socially.
@52
Jul 05th, 2012 - 07:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Wow that most have taken you so long to write so im sorry its totaly irrelevent. All the palces you list (With the exception of Gibraltar and a few others South Samwich islands, South Georgia, Ascension, Bumuda etc, which are still British) were colonies and who became independent using their right to self determination (the same right you would deny the Islanders). To say that because they became independent means the Falklands will become part of Argentina is nonsense it may mean they become independent yes but not handed over to a foreign colonial power against the wishes of its population. That is the very defifntion of coloniliasm.
“Sr please mark not my words....is LatAm words, is UN words is the world words....Argentina NEVER will give up an inch. Thats a fact too”
It maybe fact that you will not give up trying your hopeless cause. but I cant assure you that the word of LATAM is not and never will be the word of the UN. How many permanent security council members are from LATAM. Il give you a clue its a number between -1 and 1.
52 So near and yet (so_far)
Jul 05th, 2012 - 07:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0WONDER WHY?
The Commonwealth comprises 54 countries (including one currently suspended member), across all six inhabited continents. The members have a combined population of 2.1 billion people, almost a third of the world population, of which 1.17 billion live in India and 94% live in Asia and Africa combined.[34] After India, the next-largest Commonwealth countries by population are Pakistan (176 million), Bangladesh (156 million), Nigeria (154 million), the United Kingdom (61 million) and South Africa (49 million). Tuvalu is the smallest member, with about 10,000 people.[35]
The land area of the Commonwealth nations is about 31,500,000 km2 (12,200,000 sq mi), or about 21% of the total world land area. The three largest Commonwealth nations by area are Canada at 10,000,000 km2 (3,900,000 sq mi), Australia at 7,700,000 km2 (3,000,000 sq mi), and India at 3,300,000 km2 (1,300,000 sq mi).[36] The Commonwealth members have a combined gross domestic product of over $10 trillion, 50% of which is accounted for by the three largest economies: the United Kingdom ($2.2 trillion), India ($1.7 trillion), and Canada ($1.5 trillion).[37]
The status of “Member in Arrears” is used to denote those that are in arrears in paying subscription dues. The status was originally known as “special membership”, but was renamed on the Committee on Commonwealth Membership's recommendation.[38] There are currently no Members in Arrears. The most recent Member in Arrears, Nauru, returned to full membership in June 2011.[39] Nauru has alternated between special and full membership since joining the Commonwealth, depending on its financial situation.[40]
it may well be better,
Jul 05th, 2012 - 08:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0if argentina became british,
but we doubt if you would be that welcome now .
60 briton
Jul 05th, 2012 - 08:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They would have to join a long list of eligible states!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_of_Nations_membership_criteria#Prospective_members
What a nation!!!!!!!!!
52 so_far
Jul 05th, 2012 - 08:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0> Argentina NEVER will give up an inch. Thats a fact too.
It's not a fact, it's an opinion. You guys should learn the difference. Maybe then you might recognize the paradox you've got yourself to yourself into: the only way your claim can succeed, is if you abandon it.
62. Hans
Jul 05th, 2012 - 08:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0True wisdom.
42- Nobody recognises our existence? Well Chile does- its Customs,Agriculture, and Aviation Dept sign out paperwork for an International weekly flight departing from Chile with destination Falklands (3 weeks out of every 4). Same they do for ships as and when required.
Jul 05th, 2012 - 08:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As does Uruguay for ships
As does Brazil for ships
As does USA for cargo on ships and planes
As does many other nations as and when the need arises.
Care to correct your silly statement?
Argentina ' Cheer yourself up'......Northern Soul...Yeah
Jul 05th, 2012 - 08:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrMENbZXBTg&feature=related
@38
Jul 05th, 2012 - 09:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0'Latam doesn´t want or whish this but neither will allow anymore disgusting arrogance and resources thief´s from Britain in the next years, and thats a fact too.'
Britain isn't stealing resources from Argentina because Argentina does not own or have the slightest valid claim on the Falklands, despite what fairy tales and peronist, Nazi derived, methods of propaganda, Argentina uses to indoctrinate its schoolchildren with.
If the Chinese military sided against the UK they have a massive amount of trade to loose with the UK and the trade with Argentina would not make up for that.
The potential income from the Falkland Islands oilfields at its most optomistic levels, is a drop in the ocean when compared with the trade and investment flowing between China and the UK. The Chinese will also note that the UK stuck to its leaseback agreement over Hong Kong, whereas Argentina finds it practically impossible to stick to any agreement with anyone at all.
And what Argentina has not worked out yet, is that the USA are currently neutral over the Falkland Islands. If China get involved, the USA would be forced to support the UK.
Don't rule out the Chinese looking for investment opportunities in the Falkland Islands , despite the mantra they've hoodwinked putrid jelly with.
And so-far-from-reality, The Falkland Islands Government own their own resources
61 Falklands are British
Jul 05th, 2012 - 09:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thank you for that,
I had no idea that even Japan was interested,
And the United States,
Just imagine what a powerful block, if they all came back together .
Just a thought.
.
@52 (so near and yet) so far
Jul 05th, 2012 - 09:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am a Falkland Islander.
Q. What do you think we have been doing for the last 30 years?
A. Getting on just fine without you.
Q. What do you think we will be doing for the next 30 years?
A. Getting on just fine without you, unless you decide to be more friendly. In that case we will still get on just fine and you might too by focusing on things that really matter and not chasing a myth.
We would like to have a more friendly relationship with you, but we don't need it.
67 briton
Jul 05th, 2012 - 09:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0larga vida a los británicos
mancomunidad
thank you,
Jul 05th, 2012 - 10:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0i had to go to google to translate it.
@60
Jul 05th, 2012 - 10:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What in hell is he talking about?
Such comment:
“it may well better if Argentina becomes British”
Blow you head off.
Mother Nature rock those islands away!
Is the best solution for the 3,000 retards unable to become independent from argentine ports.
@71
Jul 05th, 2012 - 11:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I thought you were going on holiday Ma'am?
@71 Sussie
Jul 05th, 2012 - 11:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Did you read my post @ 68? Did you read the part that tells you we have been getting along just fine without Argentina?
From the safety of the US you are promoting the cause of your home country with neither a sense of reality nor possession of the facts. Please ensure you are better informed before you call me a retard as you have no reason to do so.
73's comment applies to you too, pirat hunter
Jul 06th, 2012 - 01:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0The British will be handing Las Malvinas over to Argentina in 20 to 25 years in any case. If they were sensible they would save themselves the cost of the “defense” of the islands and hand them over now.
Jul 06th, 2012 - 02:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0#75
Jul 06th, 2012 - 02:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0Thats right....smart britons already understood the equation and the long term clever move need to be taken right now.
Unfortunately are still others who do not seem to understand the real situation or have very large economic interests linked to the islands (Summers, Edwards, CLifton, Fowler and all that gang).
All that is doomed to inevitably end .... the sooner the better and cheaper for everyone.
“Sooner or later, the Falkland islanders will be sold out”
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/feb/02/falklands-islanders-sold-out
“..common sense would suggest that the two countries should meet to negotiate a solution, and that is exactly what Argentina's president, Cristina Fernández de Kirchner, has often suggested..”
www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/dec/22/britain-asleep-over-falkland-islands?INTCMP=SRCH
It's time to talk about the Falklands: “Britain should stop behaving like a 19th-century colonial power and start discussing Falkland sovereignty with Argentina”
www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/feb/25/falklands-sovereignty-argentina-britain?INTCMP=SRCH
Ditch the Falklands: “..It makes no economic or political sense to hang on to the Falklands, but no one will face the truth...”
www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/nov/14/falklands-economic-crisis-politics-argentina
The Independent:
“Time to talk about the Falklands”
www.independent.co.uk/opinion/leading-articles/leading-article-time-to-talk-about-the-falklands-6280282.html?origin=internalSearch
Why Britain is in the wrong over the Falklands
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/feb/02/falklands-islanders-sold-out
etc.etc.
Recovering Hong Kong...yes of course....just like leasing a car...at the end of the lease...you bring the car back or buy it....
Jul 06th, 2012 - 02:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0“dumas” Politician.
52 so_far
Jul 06th, 2012 - 02:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0Let's look at your list of territories
These got independence
Adén (Yemen), Bechuanalandia (actual Botsuana), Basutolandia (actual Lesotho),Costa de Oro (actual Ghana), Egypt,Gambia Kenia, Mauricio, Nigeria, Rodesia del Norte (actual Zambia), Nyasalandia (actual Malaui),Sierra Leona,Somalia, Rodesia South (actual Zimbabue), Suazilandia, Seychelles, Sudán, Southáfrica, Tanganika y Zanzíbar (actual Tanzania), Uganda,
Guyana Británica (actual Guyana), Honduras Británica (actual Belice),Canadá, Antigua y Barbuda, Bahamas, Barbados, Dominica, Granada, Jamaica, San Cristóbal and Nieves, Santa Lucía, San Vicente and Granadinas, Trinidad y Tobago, Baréin, Bután, Brunéi, Birmania (actual Myanmar), Ceilán (actual Sri Lanka), British India (actuale India, Pakistán and Bangladesh), Irak, Kuwait, Malaya ( Malasia), Maldivas, Nepal, Palestina (actual Israel y Palestianian territories), Omán, Qatar, Singapur, Transjordania (actual Jordania), Estados de la Tregua (Emirates Árab Uniteds),
Namibia was never British
These united with another country after referendum/public consultation
British Togo, Referendum to join Gold Coast (Ghana)
North Camerún, Referendum to join Nigeria
Terranova Referendum to join Canada
Borneo Septentrional Public consultation to form Malaysia along with Malaya, Singapore, Sarawak
Sarawak Public consultation to form Malaysia along with Malaya, Singapore, North Borneo
Returned to country always recognised as sovereign or former sovereign.
Weihawei (actual city Weihai) lease
Hong Kong, mostly lease, part cession
Still British
Santa Elena Isla Ascensión y Tristán da Cunha, Islas Falkland , Anguila, Bermudas, Islands Vírgin, Caimán Islands, Montserrat, Islas Turcas y Caicos, Gibraltar, South Georgias
Handed over to a country that has never had sovereignty nor ever recognised as having sovereignty against the wishes of the people.
none
Based on the above evidence, chances of Argentina ever getting the Falklands? An absolute zero
#78
Jul 06th, 2012 - 03:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0Territories that got independence ? freedom ? self-determination ? They only wish ONE thing.....and was kick out the invasor and they did thanks God as well LatAMn in the near future.
independence you say ? from who ?
i say liberation of thieves (England).....youre funny Barrow and have very 'special' concepts of law.
Take a look of those poor countries and people and what your nation did to them......
http://www.britishreparations.org/commercial.php
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@79
Jul 06th, 2012 - 05:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Take a look of those poor countries and people and what your nation did to them..”
Er....This is coming from an Argentine aka an implanted individual into lands taken over by us Europeans, you've got some hypocritical nerve to lecture us on colonialism, Mr Colonially implanted Spaniard.
@76
Jul 06th, 2012 - 07:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0The common element in all these articles is that they make no serious attempt to assess the merits of the Argentine case. They are espousing rather a pragmatic, geopolitical view which was an unstated goal of British governments prior to 1982, but which has been rendered politically impossible by that spectacular act of stupidity.
The current Kirchner strategy of hypocritical antagonism evidently plays well domestically, but is hardly any more likely to succeed.
http://en.mercopress.com/2012/07/05/puricelli-in-china-praises-the-hong-kong-model-as-a-good-precedent-for-malvinas#comment142919: You seem to be misinformed about American history. Argentina, like many other American countries, revolted against the Europeans and claimed their independence. At that time the Europeans left and only the Americans remained.
Jul 06th, 2012 - 08:27 am - Link - Report abuse 070 Sussie (economic refugee) US
Jul 06th, 2012 - 08:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0Suspect Briton is seeing the irony in the continued anti-British rhetoric from your leaders.
We had this from France for hundreds of years when really they only wanted to be a part of the UK.
news.sky.com/story/483683/france-wanted-to-become-part-of-uk
so_far,
Jul 06th, 2012 - 08:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0You are an optimist.
What makes you think we want anything to do with you?
Your ancestors murdered the native lndians & stole their land.
You have no “rights” in the Falklands so you just may as well forget about us.
As for your stupid statement that Argentina will take us over in 25 years,
ln 25 years, most probably Argentina won't exist.
Hopefully it will have broken up into smaller countries.
Maybe Chile will take TDF & some of Patagonia, Paraguay will get its land back(land that Argentina stole from them in 1871)& Brazil will have taken over some of the northern parts.
l will not be sorry to see Argentina dismembered, at least the present malvinista threat will be over.
85 Isolde
Jul 06th, 2012 - 09:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0Almost certainly there will be more wars on the continent. The old scores that you make reference to will be settled. Radical responses to the failures of the extreme left wing, fraudulent and non-democratic leaders that plague the place will occur. The continent is full of extremists and war is inevitable.
Just a question. Does the War Office (Defense Ministry) now speak for the Foreign Office?
Is it that the whole country, just cannot keep their fcuking gob shut and deal with the matter in hand or is this a significant retrograde step?
http://en.mercopress.com/2012/07/05/puricelli-in-china-praises-the-hong-kong-model-as-a-good-precedent-for-malvinas#comment142927: There is no need for the articles to make the case that Las Malvinas son Argentinas - the UK Foreign Office has already done so in 1910.
Jul 06th, 2012 - 09:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0But, in any case, it does not matter what the UK Foreign Office has to say on the status of Las Malvinas. The Monroe doctrine states clearly that territory over which an American flag has been raised cannot revert to the colonial power and Las Malvinas has been under the Argentine flag a number of times in the past. This is one reason that all the American countries (other than, apparently, Canada - which is still to throw off its royalist government) support Argentina's claim. And this is why Las Malvinas is going to revert to Argentina.
@76
Jul 06th, 2012 - 09:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0'Ditch the Falklands: “..It makes no economic or political sense to hang on to the Falklands, but no one will face the truth...” '
Britain is not trying to hang on to the Falklands, through several constitutional changes the trend is towards more autonomy.
If you are so hung up about colonialism, why don't you return to Spain and leave Argentina to its rightful inhabitants, the people who lived there before European AND Argentine colonialisation during the 1800s.
Another Argentine in gov who hasn't done his homework!
Jul 06th, 2012 - 09:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0It really is quite staggering. Don’t they have any books, or even the internet to educate their political class?
83
Jul 06th, 2012 - 09:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0> Argentina, like many other American countries, revolted against the Europeans and claimed their independence. At that time the Europeans left and only the Americans remained.
You mean the European implants rebelled against their European colonial masters. Then, when they hadn't done so already, they wiped out the Americans.
87
> The Monroe doctrine states clearly that territory over which an American flag has been raised cannot revert to the colonial power and Las Malvinas has been under the Argentine flag a number of times in the past.
This is a new one on me, after the Pope gifting unknown islands to non-existent countries, the Spanish inheritance that was never left to you, the civilian expulsion that never happened, underwater geology, migrating birds, and the CFK turnip test. It's rather surprising, therefore, that it was the Americans who soon after promulgating the doctrine felt the need to send the Lexington to suppress Argentine piracy and illegal occupation of the Falklands.
http://en.mercopress.com/2012/07/05/puricelli-in-china-praises-the-hong-kong-model-as-a-good-precedent-for-malvinas#comment142951: No, I mean that the citizens of America are Americans and that America is solely for Americans.
Jul 06th, 2012 - 10:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0Relations between the several American countries are an internal American concern and the past or present state of these relations can in no way legitimize any illegitimate interest that a European power may have in America.
And by the same token, the South Atlantic is solely for the South Atlanticians.
Jul 06th, 2012 - 10:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0Hepatia- quite right- South America for South Americans and South Atlantic Islands for South Atlantic Islanders.
Jul 06th, 2012 - 10:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0After all you would agree that Ireland is for the Irish, rest of British Isles for the English,Welsh,Scots and Northern Irish - you would not say they are French now surely?
79- if all those nations wanted to do was kick out the “invasor” - please explain to us WHY have they joined a friendly political grouping called the Commonwealth? - Why have several of them even kept the Queen as Head of State?
Answer these 2 questions please.
91 Hepatia
Jul 06th, 2012 - 10:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0Why does every Argentinian have a European passport if they are American?
Why is the UK overrun with Argentinians, all claiming to be Italian or Spanish so that they will be allowed to work here?
Why are the European, Italian decent, Argentinians represented in the Italian Parliament?
Why do you think that after 180 years the status quo is soon to change when it hasn't for two centuries? Have you banged your head recently?
Your idea that all of America supports you is another delusion. Read about the support from Britain in 1982 when push came to shove. It is called politics. The USA does not support Argentina however you interpret their words. South America (lets see what happens in Paraguay now) are closing ranks with their neighbours because it is currently in their interest to do so. There will almost certainly be some quid pro quo. Politics.
Politics and no-one is perturbed.
84 Falklands are British
Jul 06th, 2012 - 11:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0Thanks,
For your support,
They never will understand democracy,
71 SussieUS
Anti does not work in practise .
75 Hepatia (#)
The British will be handing Las Malvinas over to Argentina in 20 to 25 years
You don’t happen to know the exact date do you,]
Or is this another CFK ploy.**
.
75
Jul 06th, 2012 - 01:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In 20 - 30 years the oil will be gone and you Argies won't want the Islands.
China acted correctly in Hong Kong, as we did. We had a proper treaty and both sides stuck to it.
Jul 06th, 2012 - 01:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In other matters, I find China less credible as a role model.
I wonder if Argentina had a good chat about the situation in Tibet?
What about the land that China stole from India in in 1962.
Perhaps they are going to follow Chinas' fabulous example in the South China sea, where Beijing has become increasingly bellicose and threatening towards the smaller nations in the area to secure territory in the spratly and paracel groups, among others.
Did they discuss China's build up opposite Taiwan?
China's “Island chain” strategies are going to cause increasing tension in the western pacific, possibly even conflict.
We don't have a treaty with Argentina over the islands, so they can forget gaining control.
@pottymouth Sussieus.
I see that you are still insulting people - don't you have anything better to say than uttering verbal diarrhea and petty racist views? Grow up a bit girl. Adults can muster better arguments than “you are retards”.
You sound an awful lot like some of the kids I teach.
Are you going to finish of with “your mom” as a final argument?
ARE CRACKS STARTING TO SHOW (this great American love affair)?
Jul 06th, 2012 - 01:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Mexico is already pissed off with the Pikey after she nicked YPF ruining their 10% shareholding in Repsol.
Mexico withdraws Argentina auto-tariff accord
Mexico has withdrawn a zero-tariff agreement with Argentina on autos in a tit-for-tat trade dispute after the Argentine government's decision to pull out of an auto trade pact between the two countries.
Mexico had said on June 25 that Argentina had pulled out of the auto trade pact over the deal's conditions.
“Mexico is taking a reciprocal action,” de Rosenzweig said.
Mexico previously said it was preparing a case against the South American nation before the World Trade Organization over protectionist measures.
Well done Arty you old duffer.
Jul 06th, 2012 - 01:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In one fell swoop you manged to alienate Vietnam, The Philippines, Brunei and Malaysia. And of course, the good old US of A.
Keep up the good work.
#94 Most of the Argentinian women seem to be pursuing a career which may lead to them being buried in a Y shaped coffin (Many thanks to Blackadder Series 2 Bob!)
Jul 06th, 2012 - 02:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 099 Englander
Jul 06th, 2012 - 03:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Although irrational, desperate and pathetic (what is new for Argentina?) I would n't be surprised if the Pikey and her FO adviser, Titman, didn't deliberately set out to piss off the USA. I also wouldn't be surprised if a conversation hasn't already took place with Hilary.
'If you don't support our aspirations then we will look elsewhere. China, a suspect country with similar 'super power' designs. We will look to align with them rather than you.' Hope so.
100 Redrabs
Remember Bob but not the spread legs.
I'm sure it's already been said, though I haven't read all the comments yet. Hong Kong was leased from China and returned when the lease was up. The Falkland Islands never belonged to Argentina and never will. Dream on Malvinistas.
Jul 06th, 2012 - 03:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Taiwan might be a slightly better analogy. Argentina covets the Falkland Islands like China wants Taiwan. Taiwan and the Falklands are each inhabited by happy productive people who want nothing to do with their over-sized aggressive expansionist neighbours.
@40
Jul 06th, 2012 - 05:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Break the diplomatic relations with my Argentina. What are you waiting for?
I repeat, my country does not need anything from the bloody rubbish UK.
Mother Nature rocks those islands away!
Enough is Enough!
103 SussieUS (#)
Jul 06th, 2012 - 05:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I thought you were going to Bs. As. for “fun” and not posting any more.
Oh well, just proving the British posters a right, most of the Argentine posters are liars.
103 Sussie (economic refugee)US
Jul 06th, 2012 - 05:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Typical UK rubbish.
http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/105383/robbery-of-infants-videla-sentenced-to-50-years-in-prison
104 Simon68
Jul 06th, 2012 - 07:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The only liar in here is you, you pretend to be an Argentinean for a while until I proved to you that you were a liar Brit.
105 Falklands are British
Jul 06th, 2012 - 07:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Interesting link.
But I couldn't see what The Mad Bitch Of Argentina was sentenced to for all the theft of money from the citizens property such as Aerolinias Argentina.
106 Marcos
Jul 06th, 2012 - 07:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think if we had a vote on this issue Sherlock I think we would find that your belief is a bit wobbly. Surely you must have read some of the outlandish postings by your country men? They cannot possibly believe most of what they write. Tell me I am wrong.
103,
Jul 06th, 2012 - 08:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If you can read, we would suggest that you re-read [40] again and again and again,
And please show us all, where it says,
[][@40
Break the diplomatic relations with my Argentina. What are you waiting for,,,,,
Thank you.
A uneducated lying Argentine member of their government, who would of thought it lol!
Jul 06th, 2012 - 10:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He couldn't even get the most basic of facts right.
Watching the Argentine government lying for the millionth time is like watching the office where things are so horribly cringeworthy but somehow watchable just to see how terrible they get.
You've got to give it to the Argentine's they've done a superb job of discrediting themselves and embarrassing their country on the world stage with lies, half truths, hypocrisy and a complete lack of logic.
http://en.mercopress.com/2012/07/05/puricelli-in-china-praises-the-hong-kong-model-as-a-good-precedent-for-malvinas#comment142964: An American flag has been raised over Las Malvinas. Therefore Las Malvinas is part of America and cannot revert to any other status. Likewise it cannot have a non American head of state or government.
Jul 07th, 2012 - 12:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0As I have said Las Malvinas will revert to Argentina within the next 25 years. The British are just wasting their money in the interval.
@111
Jul 07th, 2012 - 12:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!!!!!!! Keep dreaming Mr Hepatia!
111 Hepatia
Jul 07th, 2012 - 02:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Falkland Islands already has the democratically elected government of its choosing. It's not going to 'revert' to anything, and particularly not subjugation and domination by a foreign power, ie you. It might become independent one day, but that will be for us to decide and not you.
We have our own doctrine that states that no Argentine flag is ever going to fly over the Falklands, and since we are here and you are not, there isn't a damn thing you can do about it.
Hepatia @ 111
Jul 07th, 2012 - 03:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Las Malvinas will revert to Argentina within the next 25 years.”
Didn't Galtieri say words to this effect when Argentine forces surrendered in the Falklands? (That was 30 years ago.) Perhaps you should seek someone more illustrious to quote.
@111 Hepatia,
Jul 07th, 2012 - 06:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Falklands cannot “revert” to anywhere.
To revert means to return to & as Argentina has NEVER owned the Falklands, it cannot “revert” to you.
Have another glass of vino señor, then go back to sleep.
@111 - Got to love that blind optimism that is founded on nothing more than make believe.
Jul 07th, 2012 - 08:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0It's strange Argentine posters have been saying the same thing for about 100 years now and yet the Falkland's are still 100% British owned with zero sign anything will change.
It's all a bit futile anyway since the UK has all of the power and the only way Argentina can become their new owner if the UK decides to give them away (which quite clearly they will NEVER do).
@111 Hepatia
Jul 07th, 2012 - 11:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0> As I have said Las Malvinas will revert to Argentina within the next 25 years.
And how exactly is this going to come about? Will the UN Security Council vote to enforce your novel interpretation of the Monroe doctrine?
Hepatia,
Jul 07th, 2012 - 11:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0We are all awaiting with bated breath, your illuminating explanation of how Argentina is going to usurp our land. Do tell.
@Pro-Falklands commentators.
Jul 07th, 2012 - 07:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Dont bother asking how they intend to take the Falklands because they don't know, the indoctrinated nationalist crap will only get them so far.
They are but embarrassing those selves again and again,
Jul 07th, 2012 - 08:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Perhaps the irony would be the break up of Argentina into 3 [a least] separate countries,
In which could very well happen,
while they waste there time on impossibilities, that only the British posses,
lololol
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@120 CHICKEN BRITON
Jul 07th, 2012 - 09:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As an argentinian citizen I say what I believe is the best to end the disputes islands: MOTHER NATURE ROCKS THOSE ISLANDS AWAY!
MY ARGENTINA STAYS THE SAME LIKE IT OR NOT. NOBODY WILL BLOW MY COUNTRY.
CHICKEN BRITON IS TIME FOR YOU TO KICK THE BUCKET, THE SOONER, THE BETTER
we thought you was not going to post ever again,
Jul 07th, 2012 - 09:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0still your presents show us all one very clear and truthfull thing .
you still havent grown up, you lie, and we still wont lower ourselves into the gutter to argue with you.
[and like all argies you cant answer anything truthfully
define chicken,=fried roasted or boiled .
“Nobody will blow my country”
Jul 07th, 2012 - 09:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Interesting!
@121 SussieUS,
Jul 07th, 2012 - 09:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Soozy, you are a complete lunatic. A wackjob.
lf you love Argentina so much, then why don't you live there?
The best thing that could happen to Argentina is that Chile, Brazil & us divide it up amongst us.
How do you like that brilliant idea, Soozygirl/boy?
(only joking, l wouldn't want the headaches of trying to run Argentina given the attitudes of the people).
btw, Soozy, how do you “blow” a country? Do tell.
@122 CHICKEN BRITTON
Jul 07th, 2012 - 10:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You and the other brits have not learn yet to understand the american way of talking. The meaning of the word chicken in the US means you get scare easily. So CALLATE POLLITO ASUSTADO!
we dont know about being scared of you,
Jul 07th, 2012 - 10:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0but we brits can smell your disgusting arora from here.
Malvinas Islads will be the next as it was with Hong Kong !!!!!
Jul 08th, 2012 - 04:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0Where are these mythical malvinas lslands, señor p.a.?
Jul 08th, 2012 - 06:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0ln the Pacific ocean, maybe?
or maybe in a lake up in the Andes near sr Think's estancia?
Anyway, you can have them, we'll keep the Falklands.
Thank You.
121
Jul 08th, 2012 - 11:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0MOTHER NATURE ROCKS THOSE ISLANDS AWAY!
MY ARGENTINA STAYS THE SAME LIKE IT OR NOT. NOBODY WILL BLOW MY COUNTRY.
CHICKEN BRITON IS TIME FOR YOU TO KICK THE BUCKET, THE SOONER, THE BETTER
125
You and the other economic refugees have not learn yet to understand the correct use of english way of talking.
@121
Jul 08th, 2012 - 12:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 01/- The Falkland Islanders are fine with nature, unlike Argentina they do not club their seals to death, which mirrors Argentina's barabarism and simpleness.
2/-What does blowing your country mean?
3/-The UK is not going to kick the bucket any time soon, it is not a third world mess like Argentina , so you are in for a long wait my dear.
@128 Correct. When I lived on the Falkland Islands I saw no Malvinas signs whatsoever-if I were to rename Argentina' Knob head land' it would be incorrect, as all the signs in Argentina are spelled, Argentina.
Perhaps the Falkland Islanders should invent a new name for Argentina (wonder what all the exterminated natives called it before the genocide?). But of course, you would not do that because the Falkland Islanders live in the real world instead of the fairy never never land some Argentines live in.
121 “sussieus”
Jul 08th, 2012 - 12:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“As an argentinian citizen I say what I believe is the best to end the disputes islands:”
I don't believe you are argentine
“MOTHER NATURE ROCKS THOSE ISLANDS AWAY!”
You think the Islanders should be killed?
“MY ARGENTINA STAYS THE SAME LIKE IT OR NOT”
Unfortunately for those living there, it will probably get worse.
“NOBODY WILL BLOW MY COUNTRY. ”
Wonderful metaphor if you think about it, pertaining to submission you are 100% right, NOBODY is going to blow your country!
“CHICKEN BRITON IS TIME FOR YOU TO KICK THE BUCKET, THE SOONER, THE BETTER”
While this could be construed as a threat it is so childish it becomes laughable. I think you learned English on Sesame Street and would be better off talking to children than adults. I remember you once called me a “Square” how embarrassing for you.
By the way, don't try and tell me that's how they talk in the States, I go there often, (in fact I'm there right now) and nobody has called me a square.
You are a silly person.
sussie
Jul 08th, 2012 - 06:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No one insults you,
You insult yourself,
Im pretty sure argentine and Americans are rather embarrassed at your adult behaviour,
Perhaps one day, you will enter into adult conversation with the rest of us,
Instead of playing video games perhaps.
@131 Zhivago Basura
Jul 08th, 2012 - 10:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You don't believe I am an argentinian?
Hey, you are a worn out sissy.
You said you have my “files” which include information about my naturalization documents 0f 5/1987. Who understand you?
Legally, I can get you in Court to pay for your violation in releasing information from the “files” .
You got me in trouble with my landlord in Las Vegas by blocking my aol mail for 2 weeks. I was not aware you copied all my e-mail. I thought it was my landlord refusal for me to use the computer room. The argument ended up with an eviction notice 3 days to quit.
Thanks to the US Federal Goverment a complaint has been served to the landlord to recover the expenses + caused by the eviction.
The Feds are also investigating you to see what was the purpose to traspass my aol account.
Your time to confuse argentinians has expired.
@133SussieUS,
Jul 08th, 2012 - 11:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Darn, you've “blown” my cover.
l may as well come clean now.
lt was me Soozy, Agent 36, my orders were to frame you.
Then get you deported to a neutral country where we would pick you up.
Damn, l'll have to hand over to Agent 37, who is also watching you.
131 SussieUS
Jul 09th, 2012 - 03:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0You have me confused with someone else. I have no files of yours and never did. You should check to make sure you are investigating the right person. I am sure you have made lots of enemies., I hate you but I haven't investigated you . Funny the feds have not questioned me as I have visited the US four times in the last month. Anyway, good luck with your lawsuit.
I didn't know anyone used AOL anymore, you must be really old!!
133
Jul 09th, 2012 - 07:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0are you a nutter?
becouse you sure come across as one!!!
@135 Zhivago,
Jul 09th, 2012 - 08:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0She/he/it loves the sun, so she said.
So she must be very old & WRINKLY.!lol
@pottymouth sussie
Jul 09th, 2012 - 02:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There is nothing more pathetic, yet compellingly funny, as someone like yourself making completely unenforceable and empty threats.......
You really are quite mad.
Why don't you go to see malvibaby - his special head care doctor is quite proficient at dealing with “Malvinista syndrome”.
It's a progressive disease of the central nervous system that makes you type in comments like “BRITS ARE LOSERS HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHJAJAJAJAJA” and “BLOW MY COUNTRY”. It makes you imagine things like the existance of “malvinas” and “argentine sovereignty of the Falklands”. It also makes you swear a lot when you can't muster a decent argument.
In your case it also seems to have made you paranoid - who hacked into your account - oh , evil british bloggers (rrriigghhhttt).
It's more likely you have'nt paid your bills, a bit like Argentina really...............
perhaps she will take our advice, and debate like an adult,
Jul 09th, 2012 - 03:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0or not come back at all.
@ Isolde TURTLE HEAD
Jul 09th, 2012 - 04:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0QUE PAPELON! MIEDOSA! LONG TIME AGO I WANTED TO MEET YOU AND BRITON IN BS.AS., BUT conQUEEERRR DISTRACTED MY REQUEST.
your imagination is making you look so stupid!
Come on, you have my address in Tempe Arizona. WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR?
If there is a legal issue against my US naturalization papers, I GAVE BRITON 30 DAYS TO FILE A CIVIL CLAIM IN COURT.
ISOLDA, CABEZA DE TORTUGA, CHALLENGE ME IN COURT BEFORE AUGUST 1, 2012 IF YOU REALLY HAVE A CASE or 'AGENT 37” who ever claim a case against me. Is easy to find me, if you REALLY ARE INTERESTED IN FILING A CIVIL SUIT AGAINST ME.
IF NOT, YOU HAD PROVE TO BE NOTHING MORE THAN UNA SUECA CON CONCHA SECA.
By the way, I am perfectly fit, wear a sort cut brunette hair, perfect curves, 46 inches bust, 26 inches waist and 38 inches hips, No wrinkles, except the laugh lines.
I wear the Signature brand casual clothes from Macy's than consists of cotton made clothes due to the southwest hot weather. MY CLOTHES COLORS ARE BRIGHT YELLOW, PINK, RED, BLACK AND PURPLE.
DONT WEAR SHORT SLEEVES TOPS OR TIGHT PANTS.
AT THE POOL I WEAR A BIKINI SWIMSUIT, NO HAT.
YOU CAN FIND MY AT MY HOME AFTER 10 PM IF YOU OR AGENT 37 IS INTERESTED IN FILING A CIVIL SUIT BEFORE AUGUST 1, 2012
IF NOT, YOU ARE THE SAME CRAP FOUND IN THIS WEB PAGE NOTHING MORE THAN A PORT-A-JOHN.
TELL AGENT 37 I AM WAITING TO RECEIVE ANY CLAIM BEFORE AUGUST 1, 2012. hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhAAAAAAAAHA
Anyone tell me why SussieUS is going on about Argentina when she seems to be an american? it's very strange!
Jul 09th, 2012 - 05:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@141 cornishhell
Jul 09th, 2012 - 05:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Dual nationalities, dual cultures.
Is not Dual nationalities
Jul 09th, 2012 - 06:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Down to your parents,
But you, were born either in Argentina or America,
Thus making you, either argentine or American born, with dual nationalities.
is this not true .
@143 Brutish Briton
Jul 09th, 2012 - 07:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Poor babe, still he does not accept the fact that I have 2 countries, 2 cultures, 2 languages and 46 inches bust.
Sussie
Jul 09th, 2012 - 07:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Read this .
http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1753.html
and this
http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1753.html
And then understand why single stated citizenship,
Is enough for us, [me]
Duel citizenship, seems too complicated.
.
140 SussieUS
Jul 09th, 2012 - 07:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Don't shout dear!!
“REALLY ARE INTERESTED IN FILING A CIVIL SUIT AGAINST ME.” Again, being the typical American...always with the law suits. Stop playing your stereo-type you're just embarrassing your fellow country men / women.
and anyway, didn't you say that you weren't going to post on here again?
So you're bad-tempered, a lair AND American...... wow, you got all the boxes ticked haven't you?
Do you have an eye patch and a wooden leg ( just to complete the set )
Interesting by a Mexican writer (nothing new).
Jul 09th, 2012 - 07:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.policymic.com/articles/10874/why-argentina-president-cristina-fernandez-de-kirchner-has-failed-at-handling-the-falklands
@147
Jul 09th, 2012 - 08:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I read that early, its rather interesting, coming form a Latam point of view.
It's unbelievable how many Britards will waste their time commenting on every provocative little piece that this rag releases.
Jul 09th, 2012 - 08:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@149
Jul 09th, 2012 - 08:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Its unbelievable that an Argtard will make comments regarding Northern Ireland and how people there “deserve what they got” despite not knowing the history nor the place itself.
Lets keep Sussie going, lts good for a laugh. lol.
Jul 09th, 2012 - 09:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sussie,Agent 37 is in Arizona right now, watching you.
ln fact he/she has just taken a photo of you & bounced it off a satellite.
So now we have a “blown” up picture of you in Head Quarters & we'll be putting it on youtube.
When can we meet, dahling?
149 Forget (this) tit 140682
Jul 09th, 2012 - 09:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Are you not posting a comment then?
Which little rag do you refer?
@149
Jul 09th, 2012 - 09:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The article is common sense-Argentina have a double policy of asking their neighbours support for their view on the Falklands then shafting them ie;
RG: Hello Chile, have we your support for our Falklands claim?
Chile: Of course amigos.
RG: To thank you we are backing Bolivia's claim to take some land off you.
RG: Hello Brazil! Have we your support for our Falklands claim?
Brazil: Of course amigos.
RG: To thank you we are imposing export tarriffs to make it more difficult to trade with us.
RG: Hello Paraguay, are you supporting our claim on the Falklands?
Paraguay: Of course amigos.
RG: We are going to make sure you get booted out of Mercosur.
This is the state of Argentine diplomacy. Clueless.
149
Jul 09th, 2012 - 10:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0has gone of the rails,
By the way, I am perfectly fit, wear a sort cut brunette hair, perfect curves, 46 inches bust, 26 inches waist and 38 inches hips, No wrinkles, except the laugh lines. I am also 4 foot tall and wear size 12 shoes.
Jul 09th, 2012 - 10:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Scary.
#153 Cristina: Hello Paraguay, we are going to fight for your democratic rights.
Jul 09th, 2012 - 11:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sounds OK to me!
ha ha ha ha
Jul 09th, 2012 - 11:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0fell of chair, ha ha ha ,
got back on chair , ha ha ha .
@Isolde
Jul 10th, 2012 - 02:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We should confer with agent 37 using the CONE OF SILENCE.
Sussie will not be able to hear what we say then.
Just read that China and Japan are having another spat about the Senkaku islands. Japan is talking about buying them - I assume they mean buying out the Chinese claim. Apparently the Chinese are not impressed.
By the way, I am perfectly fit, wear a sort cut brunette hair, perfect curves, 46 inches bust, 26 inches waist and 38 inches hips, No wrinkles, except the laugh lines.
Jul 10th, 2012 - 05:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I wear the Signature brand casual clothes from Macy's than consists of cotton made clothes due to the southwest hot weather. MY CLOTHES COLORS ARE BRIGHT YELLOW, PINK, RED, BLACK AND PURPLE.
DONT WEAR SHORT SLEEVES TOPS OR TIGHT PANTS.
AT THE POOL I WEAR A BIKINI SWIMSUIT, NO HAT.
sounds like a txt book trannie :)
@151 Isolde Turtle HEAD
Jul 10th, 2012 - 06:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A PICTURE? Came to Tempe, Arizona just to take a picture of me?
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHA.
You are nothing more than a scare turtle head. MIEDOSA, HIJA DE PUTA MADRE!
Quietly , politely , and in English ..
Jul 10th, 2012 - 10:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Suzie
Jul 11th, 2012 - 01:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0“You are nothing more than a scare turtle head.”
I asked three people in Albany today what that meant and none of them knew what the fuck you were talking about. They were all American and since we were at the University I had to assume they were fairly well-educated. You should really consider learning English! You are a twit!
@160SussieUS,
Jul 11th, 2012 - 07:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0Why didn't you say, sweetheart, that you're back in the asylum?
Didn't like to make fun of your giraffe head. Poor putana.
Don't judge others by yourself, your mother may be a puta, but mine is not.
Yes, we have several photos of you now.
Quelle horreur!
163 lsolde
Jul 11th, 2012 - 08:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0I was thinking of booking SussieUS for a personal appearance tour, a book and a T.V show, insanity of this order should not be kept from anyone but should be announced to the world and marveled at.
I reckon she would fill the O2 in london and may have to add in a few extra nights as well. Although, I think that getting her restaints and her medication through customs might be a bit of a problem.
160 SussieUS
Hey Sussie!! are you out there? ( I don't mean “out there” but out there ) would this be the time and the place to mention your theory aboout ALL English / British people being deformed.... all because David Came-moron's mum had a dodgy leg? ooopppss!! there I go. Silly me....
Not just another deluded Argentine politician but clearly mad as well. Also no doubt an expert in promoting 'the Great Malvinas Lie'.
Jul 11th, 2012 - 07:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@165
Jul 12th, 2012 - 09:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0Like an ostrich sticking head in the sand and ignoring the UN charters.
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