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Cristina Fernandez challenges organized labour determined to have Moyano sacked
The Argentine powerful organized labour unions, CGT is heading for a fracture from the moment two different congresses have been convened at different dates, one of them supportive of President Cristina Fernandez’ administration and the other entirely in the opposition. Read full article
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Jul 12th, 2012 - 08:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0Moyano should be sacked.
Jul 12th, 2012 - 09:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0What? The government should sack the elected head of a labour organisation.....? How exactly does that work????
Jul 12th, 2012 - 09:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0Separation of powers....
Jul 12th, 2012 - 10:05 am - Link - Report abuse 03
Jul 12th, 2012 - 10:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0Moyano should be happy he isn't British, just ask David Kelly... or his family...
Ahh, Guzz my favourite socialist/communist. Grasping at straws and trying to divert the thread. Not doing very well are you? Perhaps La Campora should fire you.
Jul 12th, 2012 - 10:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0Surely as a socialist, you support the poor downtrodden workers agains the evil oppressive government, don't you?
CFK is playing with fire here, which could well turn around and burn her.
You see it takes someone with balls to fight and break the unions, and dear CFK isn't up to the task, because she has to feel that everyone loves her.
When the workers are rioting in the street and burning her effigy, do you think her sicophants will hide it all from her and tell her that the people love her? That she is the reincarnation of Eva Peron, and therefore can do no wrong?
Or will they behave like the rats they are and desert the sinking ship that is CFK's government?
Left out in the cold.
Jul 12th, 2012 - 11:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0Guzz, #3, is right about David Kelly.
If he, Kelly, had the rights to protection from 'accidents' or 'forces unknown' by the British police, the armed forces, the judicary, the government and the administration ... as well as a union and the TUC, perhaps he would not be 'unexpectedly dead'.
It is a dangerous thing to question the official position on Weapons Of Mass Destruction.
The first duty of any government is the safety of its citizens ... including David Kelly. In this respect, Moyano is, of course, perfectly safe in Argentina.
Mr David Kelly will be another jack the ripper,
Jul 12th, 2012 - 12:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A political error or embarrassment,
But like jack, you will have to wait 30 years to find out,
And of course like jack, that was extended to 100 years,
And even today, some info is kept secret,
National security.
Does or did mr Kelly hold or knew something, that could bring down the establishment, no matter how a small part of it, may have fallen.
Politicians, have in the past, present and in the future, it seems can do what they want, to whom they want,
For the political elite always seems to a above the law,
[Then again, a conspiracy theorist may say ?/ ]
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@2 the government cannot sack an elected head of a union! What is a shame is that as soon as the unions do not support her crazy economic schemes they attempt to overthrow the elected ehad for doing exacly what he is paid to do, i.e. stand up for the workers. It is imposible to be a socilist and approive of the state running the unions.
Jul 12th, 2012 - 12:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@5 and 7 you are cluthcing at straws when you use conspiracy theories to divert attention away from the actual story. Moyano is right in that the Peronist government is abandoning its core voter base and with the middle classes also in arms, the failing economy and her inability to do anything about, I can not see a future for CFK.
CFK has been upstairs, and failed,
Jul 12th, 2012 - 12:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Now she will descend into the basement, to try again .
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Oops Look how nice the photo of “Timbermann” ha ha
Jul 12th, 2012 - 12:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh! sorry I meant Timerman
http://www.pagina12.com.ar/visor/fotos/20120115/notas/2.jpg
People are going to die over this it is just a matter of who is has the gumption to get the war started.
Jul 12th, 2012 - 12:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Moyano should be sacked by his members. If I was in Argentina I would be at the metal workers meeting and not Moyano's illegitimate rally. I will not abandon Cristina even if the elite plots against her, with which Moyano is colluding, succeed, although I don't expect they will
Jul 12th, 2012 - 01:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Very very scary news about Argentina signing a military cooperation agreement with Venezuela, these people are looking to start a war.
Jul 12th, 2012 - 01:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0www.buenosairesherald.com/article/105945/argentina-venezuela-to-sign-military-agreement
Did you hear about the new “militant” movement that Kirchners are starting that will make “La Cámpora” look like a group of kids in nursery school? It's called “Vatayon”, it's a Kirchner backed group that goes into the prisons of Argentina to recruit supporters for their political movement. This is frightening!
www.facebook.com/#!/vatayonmilitante
He does seem to be causing them some problems. I bet they wish this guy would just disappear...
Jul 12th, 2012 - 01:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 09
Jul 12th, 2012 - 01:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I didnt say -- the Government should sack Moyano --
I said -- Moyano should be sacked --.
@16 well thats up to the union members isnt it? and given that he is representing there wishes and doing what is best for his members that seems highly unlikely. He has just got them a pay rise after all. I believe that he would become 10 times more dangerous if sacked as he would then have an axe to grind and would ally himself to political parties and people intrested in seeing an end to the Kirchinite regime.
Jul 12th, 2012 - 01:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@13 -BK
Jul 12th, 2012 - 02:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Since you are a deluded idiot, we can only assume that you wouldn't abandon your beloved Cristina even if she murdering babies and eating them raw.
You know BK, for a supposed socialist is amazing why you back a Peronist (fascist) party against the workers. You really are either a deluded idiot, or a traitor to the cause. Or maybe your both.
CFK is a populist leader. This means she needs to remain popular to stay in power. If she tries to take on the unions and fails, she'll be out on her ear within days. If she wins, well...she won't win because then she'll alienate the working masses and they'll hound her out of office.
Do you think she was wooing the military so she can set them against the working man? If she does BK will you still be supporting her as she orders the military to open fire on the unarmed workers?
There is an article in Clarin today talking about lack of tourist, hmm I think I mentioned that here once or twice. Higher costs lower tourists. Simple to understand if you are not an RG. Of course I was shouted down.
Jul 12th, 2012 - 02:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In the article it said 1 U$ to have the same buying power as in 2004 would make the peso 9.8/1 wanna bet that's where it is to boost up the summer/xmas season? Then watch for hyper inflation take hold sometime the following quarter. CFk wants a little juice to pull the country into 2013.
All I can say is watch out below!
Here I am Dany, and a very good morning to you all.
Jul 12th, 2012 - 03:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0CFK, having used Moyano as a battering ram and picket line over the isolating of Clarín and La Nación, now is trying to get rid of him because he is an embarassment in present circumstances. This is because he is asking for inflation indexed raises for the workers rather than the INDEC generated amounts that CFK regards as reallity.
I think that Moyano is right and the “Gordos” are wrong. Moyano is supporting the workers and the Gordos are supporting the Government. The CGT belongs to the workers, not to the Government
A thought suddenly occurred to me ........
Jul 12th, 2012 - 05:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0British_Kirchnerist is so supportive of CFK whatever the issue and whoever CFK is against ..........
Only one person could be so totally in favour of Cristina ...... Cristina herself!
Yes, BC ... IS ... CFK!
then give them both the sack
Jul 12th, 2012 - 06:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0as in sack , bag ,lol
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Jul 12th, 2012 - 07:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Dont ignore the passification him option.
See your trouble BK is you keep spouting off about how great CFK is yet you sit here getting your free NHS, civil libertys, probably go down the pub for the odd pint or claim dole money, yet have no conception of whats going on in Argentina except what you read on here and other sites, do yourself a favour and go there, I can organise you a flight on a C130 if you want, don't be to nervous if the tailgate opens over the Atlantic they do that to get rid of bad smells.
Jul 12th, 2012 - 08:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Very very scary news about Argentina signing a military cooperation agreement with Venezuela, these people are looking to start a war.
Jul 12th, 2012 - 10:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0www.buenosairesherald.com/article/105945/argentina-venezuela-to-sign-military-agreement
Did you hear about the new “militant” movement that Kirchners are starting that will make “La Cámpora” look like a group of kids in nursery school? It's called “Vatayon”, it's a Kirchner backed group that goes into the prisons of Argentina to recruit supporters for their political movement. This is frightening!
www.facebook.com/#!/vatayonmilitante
Wasn't moyano the guy who headed the truckers strike as well as the port strike ??? Didn't those strike hurt the farming community in Argentina?? And now this leach called moyano has the face to blame it on CFK, people like moyano should be tried, judged and executed in the same day, lazy people like this turd need to blame things on everyone else, how else can they keep a job or get anything done??
Jul 13th, 2012 - 12:53 am - Link - Report abuse 026 Pirat-Hunter (#)
Jul 13th, 2012 - 01:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0Moyano was the guy who supported both Nestor and Cristina from 2003 until last year, when Cristina turned on him and his union.
It seems as though loyalty only works one way in Argentina, you are loyal to Kretina and not to your principles.
Having used Moyano and his Union to consolidate her power she refused to allow the unions representation in Congress. Just goes to show how little “peronism” means to the Viuda Negra!!!!
Hugo Moyano, who was reelected for another 4 years great news for Argentina but not so great news for the CFK government .. knock knock
Jul 13th, 2012 - 02:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0#21 I'm honoured to be mistaken for such a genius, but no I'm not Cristina!
Jul 13th, 2012 - 10:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0#28 “great news for Argentina” You don't really mean thay though do you, you want Argentina to fail, thats the only reason you're backing mafia Moyano!
BK
Jul 13th, 2012 - 07:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Cristina has built her own mafia, what's the difference ! Moyano maybe just as corrupt but at least acknowledges the people.. going against the union will be the downfall of your queen and the people are finally wising up to her corrupted ways ! BTW I want Argentina to succeed unlike you I live here ......
@ Mrlayback
Jul 14th, 2012 - 02:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0“BTW I want Argentina to succeed unlike you I live here”
Wow, You manage to hide very well your desires. Ha ha
@Berger
Jul 14th, 2012 - 12:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Does your mama know you have access to her computer ?
#27 I ask again
Jul 14th, 2012 - 07:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Wasn't moyano the guy who headed the truckers strike as well as the port strike ??? Didn't those strike hurt the farming community in Argentina?? And now this leach called moyano has the face to blame it on CFK, people like moyano should be tried, judged and executed in the same day, lazy people like this turd need to blame things on everyone elseto survive, how else can he keep a job or get anything done??
@Mrlayback
Jul 15th, 2012 - 12:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0To be honest no, but don’t tell anyone please....
BTW how much are you being paid by Clarin?
@Berger
Jul 15th, 2012 - 01:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0You don´t have to work for Clarin to dislike the head of state & her mafia, like I said in a previous comment the people are starting to wise up to her corrupt ways.. Can you honeslty sit there and tell me that she is doing a brilliant job, If you say Yes then I should be asking you ! How much are you being paid by La campora ?
@Mrlayback
Jul 15th, 2012 - 05:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0She is doing a great, great job.
Now can you tell me where can I go to get my check?
@Berger
Jul 15th, 2012 - 02:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ask Max, is he not your leader ? but not to worry i´m sure he will pay you soon probably in 4 installments ...
#27 I ask again
Jul 15th, 2012 - 03:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I must ask again......
Wasn't moyano the guy who headed the truckers strike as well as the port strike ??? Didn't those strike hurt the farming community in Argentina?? And now this leach called moyano has the face to blame it on CFK, people like moyano should be tried, judged and executed in the same day, lazy people like this turd need to blame things on everyone elseto survive, how else can he keep a job or get anything done??
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