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Argentina warns UK company over involvement in Falklands’ oil production
Argentina will take legal actions against Britain's Premier Oil after the company agreed to invest 1 billion dollars to help develop an oil field off the disputed Falkland Islands, Argentina's Foreign Ministry said on Monday. Read full article
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Jul 17th, 2012 - 05:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0Remind us, is this the legal action with the deadline from May or a new set? What's argiecatalan for “all mouth and no trousers”?
Jul 17th, 2012 - 05:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0Blah Blah Blah from Argentina. There is nothing they can do to stop the drilling operations, short of trying to use thier armed forces to destroy the oil infrastucture.
Jul 17th, 2012 - 05:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0Marcos, why is it bad news?
Jul 17th, 2012 - 06:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0More bad news Marcos? Oh you mean like all of the other companies that have been gleefully ignoring the retarded Argentine government? How can they prosecute when they have no jurisdiction? LOL
Jul 17th, 2012 - 06:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0Who cares what some worthless tin pot government thinks? Seems no oil companies do........
@shb - Don't be silly the Argentine military forces are like a bad attempt at mimicking dad's army!
More hot air from Buenos Aires. To be honest I was getting worried as the Argentine government hadn't mentioned the Falklands for at least a day.
Jul 17th, 2012 - 06:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0What is Argentina going to do? Cry? Stamp it's foot? Steal another foreign owned company?
Nope they're gonna do nothing because they haven't got legal authority over the Falklands. Never have, never will.
Impotent Argentina.
Foolish Argentina.
Corrupt Argentina.
Destitute Argentina.
2 Boovis
Jul 17th, 2012 - 06:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0I think this the deadline from May. I'm still waiting for the flurry of “Cease and desist” wits to come flying our way. I'm still waiting to be awed by the finality of Argentina's legal action against all of those who are “Plundering” Argentina's hydrocarbons.
I hope it happens soon, I can't wait. I'm sitting here beside myself as it is........
Money talks and bullsh*t walks - can't be any surprise to Premier to receive this letter. They say they have talked to UK government before making the investment and received assurances. Personally, I think that's worth more than a letter from the Argentinean government telling them they've been very naughty boys.
Jul 17th, 2012 - 07:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0By the way, Premier Oil up 1% on the news.
I imagine they'll end up with uneforceable judgements against them within Argentina. I wouldn't be surprised if they convict company directors of a criminal offence and then try to extradite them. An exercise infutility.
Jul 17th, 2012 - 08:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0The only sanction is that these companies will have to avoid investing anything in Argentina - what a terrible problem to have to live with!
“In March, Argentina vowed to take oil firms active in the Falklands, and other companies providing support and services to them, to the local courts for what it sees as illicit drilling in disputed territory.”
Jul 17th, 2012 - 08:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0Is this not the first indication of where argieland plans to take its “legal action”? “the local courts” are presumably argie courts. And what good do they think that will do? Scenario: argie government files case. Although there is no evidence that any “respondent” has received any court papers. Company writes to court. “The territory is not disputed by Britain. You have no jurisdiction.” Alternative: “As you allege that the territory concerned is ”disputed“, the ”dispute“ must first be resolved before you consider whether you have any right to jurisdiction.”
Now, if an argie court holds a hearing and finds in favour of the argie government, the judgement has no effect because jurisdiction has not been agreed. Much like argieland refuses to accept the jurisdiction of the ICJ. This should be hilarious!!
BuenosAiresHerald: “Borders & Southern Petroleum reported disappointing results in the Malvinas Islands from the latest well to be drilled as part of the controversial search for oil in the British islands over which Argentina claims sovereignty.” So they confirm they are British, that's nice of them :D
Jul 17th, 2012 - 08:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0@11 -Boovis
Jul 17th, 2012 - 08:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0Is this proof that CFK's grip on the country is slipping like that on her sanity?
This is getting boring. More 'demands' and 'warnings' from Argentina'. One of these companies should take legal action against KFC & Co., they would have legitimate grounds for complaint, unlike Argentina. Probably best though just to ignore the whining idiots.
Jul 17th, 2012 - 08:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0@12: Must be all that botox muscle relaxant at work.
Jul 17th, 2012 - 08:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentine law and its Presidential decrees stop at Argentine land and maritime borders.
Jul 17th, 2012 - 08:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0These tactics can have no effect on those with no interests inside Argentina.
Perhaps Premier Oil should remind the Argentine government of this in its reply.
Come on Argies do your worst. I have the surgeon on call to repair any hernia i get get by laughing so hard.
Jul 17th, 2012 - 08:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0All words and no actions Marcos, May was a season ago and we have had bugger all from your ruling regime.
We will do as we please and you have no power or influence to stop us :-)
@9 There will be a problem if an aircraft carrying a Director or two diverts to Uruguay, Chile or indeed Argentina due to bad weather or malfunction. Can't see that small risk stopping development.
Jul 17th, 2012 - 08:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0There will be no such problem if any director, employee or shareholder sets foot in any nation including Argentina as no law has been broken. We have even been able to land Typhoons in Chile that have flown through Argie airspace.
Jul 17th, 2012 - 09:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0CFK is impotent and poor souls like Marcos and Burger King feel that bad language and hot air from their government is a sign that they have metal.
2017 and first oil here we come.
@18 You seem to have a remarkably poor understanding of the nature of criminal law, sovereignty and international arrest warrants. With assertions like your first you can't wonder why you've been labelled a root vegetable by other posters. Still,that doesn't make your final assertion any less right.
Jul 17th, 2012 - 09:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0@Beef
Jul 17th, 2012 - 09:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0You are wrong if an Arg court issues any international warrant they become fugitive from Arg. justice and can be caught in any country with extradition agreement with ARG. So lets say in EU, USA, Mercosur, etc.
#20
Jul 17th, 2012 - 09:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0An international arrest warrant will only be recognised if what is alleged is a crime in the country where the warrant is sent to.
They are also not recognised if the potential sentence would be punitative (such as the death sentence or out of proportion to the “offence”)
In this case the warrant will not be recognised as entering into a commercial contract with the agreement of the government of both the country and its protecting power is and never has been a crime unless of course there are international sanctions imposed by the UN which there are not.
@20 - Dany
Jul 17th, 2012 - 09:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0But no country would extradite someone over this as Argentina has NO authority or jurisdiction over the Falklands. So therefore no laws broken. None, not even Argentine law.
Poor impotent Dany, who comes from a poor impotent country, who doesn't understand international law.
If Argentina tries to issue international arrest warrants in this instance, they will be laughed at by the international community. Maybe you are immune to this laughter now, after all your government has been making fools of you all for years now.
@21 I defer to your superior understanding of South American jurisprudence. Best the diversion airfield isn't in Argentina then or do you even deny that Argentina is a sovereign country capable of developing and enforcing its own criminal law on territory it controls?
Jul 17th, 2012 - 09:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yet another warning, and what's the deadline this time? 2289?
Jul 17th, 2012 - 10:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0So they are going to report the drilling to the Stock exchanges of USA and UK?
This isn't a threat, it's a comedy show.
This is a desperate ploy to make everyone on the oil rigs, FI and UK armed forces on the FI laugh themselves to death so Argentina can walk in unopposed while everyone writhes helplessly mortally wounded with humour.
So the British stock exchange is going to take any notice of an Argentine complaint based on a load of bollox that has got no legal justification?
Even lefty Obama is making sure that the World Bank does not loan money to Argentina as it refuses to pay off debts, so any lectures involving anything to do with money and legality are going to be met with total derision by the rest of the world. I understand that YPF were trying to raise money/support in the USA recently, and got laughed at.
@20
This depends on whether the country these so called fugitives are caught in accepts Argentinas court ruling to be legal. And if any are kidnapped in SA and taken to Argentina you should take note that in Afghanistan and Iraq we brits are really good at rescuing hostages, as this is what international law would label them as.
Do you really think an RG court wants even a handful of H-Arsd SAS troopers breaking through and shooting the place to F***?
Because there is nothing you could do to stop them, ie remember Pebble Island 19/05/82, the finest commando raid in history?
I would argue strongly that if the roles were reversed and the UK government took this matter to Court, our judiciary would throw it out, such is the strength of independence from political interference. What do you Argentinean correspondents think the chances of an Argentine court doing that?
Jul 17th, 2012 - 10:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0My guess is one in a million, but if you want to be taken seriously on the international stage and as an investible country, an independent judiciary is one of the basic requirements.
An independent judiciary isn't much help if the government passes specific laws enabling prosecution.
Jul 17th, 2012 - 10:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0Has there been no news about how the earlier threats are getting along within the system?
26 But as far as I'm aware there have been no new laws passed.
Jul 17th, 2012 - 10:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0Specifically the Argentine government says that the oil companies are operating in Argentine waters without a permit. They are ignoring the Falklands and its permits because they claim the Falklands don't exist as an external territory. Whereas, whether or not you support the Argentine claim on the islands, you would have to accept that as things stand the Falklands are a British Overseas Territory. The Argentinian legal case is therefore based on wishful thinking rather than the law as a court would understand it. A truly independent judiciary would find the Arg government action very difficult to support, I would expect.
That's why overseas investors would and should worry about Argentina. If CFK wants it seems she can just move the goalposts, change the law or whatever to suit herself and whatever hare-brained scheme she comes up with next.
@Redrabs
Jul 17th, 2012 - 11:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0This will not stop Argentina justice to prosecute all them and if they don’t comply with the requirement of Arg. Justice like to attend the court they will be declare in “rebelliousness” so the court can issue a international arrest warrant. In the case that executive UK govt. desire to protect them may be UK justice desire the contrary, but as in UK there is not real separation of power I guess that they will prevail.
But the offenders could not put a foot in any other country without risking to be caught by Interpol.
About if is a crime in the country host of the warrant.
1- Case “Richard O'Dwyer” British citizen was found not guilty over infringement of copyright material in UK (was not a crime in UK). But a US court desired the contrary and he is extradited to face charges in US.
“O’Dwyer’s TVShack website, while not in violation of any UK laws where he lived and operated it, infringed on American copyright legislation “
2- “In this case the warrant will not be recognised as entering into a commercial contract with the agreement of the government of both the country”
Doesn’t matter is what Arg. Justice ruled out and if they say is a crime so in the area of influence of Arg. justice (all countries signed EA) will be forced to comply with Argentina.
@ LEPRecon
As you always wrong, I can sue you in Argentina and even you are not here if the court take ma case I can make extradite you from Iran of course Iran can refuse like in the case of the terrorist attack in Arg. But you cannot put a foot outside of the country that protects you.
You must comply with the court if not you become a refugee in some little island.
@ Pete Bog
Yeah in the movies I would like to see that really.
Dany B- How come Chile(your amigos you claim) did not then arrest oil company staff on the Oil Operator charter flight that was diverted to a Chilean airport and overnighted last week?
Jul 17th, 2012 - 11:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Argentina vowed to take oil firms active in the Falklands, and other companies providing support and services to them, to the local courts”
Jul 17th, 2012 - 11:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0Local courts are for local people theres nothing they can do here.
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Jul 17th, 2012 - 11:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0You are either a manic depressive, an Argentinian muppet or both.
28
You seem to have an over inflated sense of Argentina's standing in the World although you did forget North Korea and Cuba.
To all Argentine Muppets -
Relax, the oil exploration has only just begun. If you get this over excited about a few drill holes and share deals, think what its gonna be like when the black oozy stuff starts coming to the surface and shipped out. Argentina better have a good health service.
Argentina warns you xD
Jul 17th, 2012 - 11:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuhxZKPv8yc
What can I do to become a fugitive from Argentine justice?
Jul 17th, 2012 - 11:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0It sounds like a badge of honour - and fun.
28- The extradited UK citizens went to the USA...we have signed an agreement with them, it tends to work just one way with only a handful of US citizens being extradited to UK but hey we are talking about the worlds true super power at the moment. UK will do anything to please the US , like a lap dog.
Jul 17th, 2012 - 11:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina on the other hand has zero world standing , a corrupt state owned media, plus questionable legal system...its similar to Iran threatening legal action or North Korea, file in bin.
@28
Jul 17th, 2012 - 11:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0Oh my goodness. Imagine if Argentina were to pass a law making it illegal to take the mickey out of Malvinistas on the Internet. Would the international community then be obliged to extradite all the guilty miscreants?
#28
Jul 17th, 2012 - 11:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0Criminal copyright infringment is a crime in the UK but with a maximum prison term of 6 months.
This is mostly used to prosecute persons who sell fake goods
In the case of Richard O'Dwyer the argument is that the USA regime is punative and hence he should be tried in the UK. Personally I hope he does as the UK /USA extradition treaty goes too far and should be scrapped and renegotiated.
“Local courts are for local people theres nothing they can do here”.
Jul 17th, 2012 - 11:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0Love it and the programme.
I hope CFK realises we're not on 'Argentinas continental shelf'. UNCLOS states that inhabited Islands have their own 'continental shelf'.
Jul 17th, 2012 - 12:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Stop spitting your dummy out CFK, it's our country, our land, our oil, we will sell it to whomever we like. And we are most certainly never, ever, going to give into your colonialist bullying.
Argentinas threats to oil companies have utterly failed. The purpose of the threats was to try and place a strnagle hold on the Islands from devloping a hydro-carbon industry by discouraging investors. However, it has not worked and the Islands have attratced the investment they require to kick start the industry. Argentine has been made a fool of int he international market as investors have shown that they put more weight in the words of support from the UK government than in hollow threats from the Argentine government. They are now being forced to take the legal action (I have no idea of the cost, the court which has the jursitictation to hear the case, or how any ruling will be applied or bindiong in international law) in order to try and show they are not just a toothless old dog than the international investoment market no longer wishes to do buisness with.
Jul 17th, 2012 - 12:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The only country currently loosing foreign investment is Argentina, the Falklands are thriving and attracting huge intrest in THEIR resources, while Argentine is being forced to sell out to China.
@27 I note your points BUT may I suggest that the UK is recognised by the UN as the Administering Authority for the Falkland Islands. The UN has no authority and no power to change that. Therefore, it matters not a jot whether CFK “moves the goalposts”. The only “goalposts” she can change are those recognised by argieland. Even if the whole General Assembly were to vote in favour of argieland's new “goalposts”, it would have no legal effect. The only body that “might” be able to legally make a change would be the ICJ. That would require both the UK and argieland to put the matter before the ICJ and agree to accept its judgement. Argieland would never dare do this. It knows it would lose. But even then, what country has previously refused to recognise an ICJ judgement? Argieland, of course. So, even if the matter were taken to the ICJ and the judgement were to go against Britain, Britain could simply follow the argie example and refuse to accept the judgement.
Jul 17th, 2012 - 01:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@28 Funny little boy. Apart from the ridiculousness of your first paragraph, you do realise that Interpol cannot arrest anyone anywhere, don't you? Just admit that you know nothing about the law. And did you know that no-one can be extradited for a civil matter? Sue all you like. Only one place you can “enforce” an argie civil judgement. Argieland. Ask your mummy when you get home from school.
I would tend to agree about the reach of Argentine courts, similar to UK, US, or EU courts (in regards to economic matters), which have no jurisdiction in Argentina, yet funnily enough people here hypocritically state (no surprise there), that Argentina is violating international law when it disregards rulings in US, Italian, German, Spanish, or UK courts about bonds, debt, YPF, etc.
Jul 17th, 2012 - 02:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You got to love the double-standard (for the umpteenth time): Argentine courts have no jurisdiction outside Argentina, so no one is violating laws. Argentina violates laws when not obeying the dictums of foreign courts.
LOL, that is what we call utter moral turpitude.
#12 Her grip on the country is indeed like that on her sanity - complete (with necessary adjustments for a thriving democracy of course) =)
Jul 17th, 2012 - 02:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@41,
Jul 17th, 2012 - 03:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So based on your analogy, whose benefit is this being done for? A domestic audience?
Of course. Anyone with a brain knows that the only way the can hurt these companies is if they have assets in the country, or somehow convince other countries to act on assets of such countries in those countries, which is exceedingly unlikely.
Jul 17th, 2012 - 03:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@BK - You must mean complete bonkers.
Jul 17th, 2012 - 03:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0TWIMC
Jul 17th, 2012 - 04:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0At this pace, we will not need lawyers.................:
BOR down 11.11% to 16.00 pennies
RKH down 11.56% to 197.00 pennies
FOGL down 5.66% to 75.00 pennies
Warning to barristers. I f you represent Argentina in a British court action or at The Hague make sure you get your fees up front Its not a question of no win, no fees. If in the remote case that they do win a judgement you wont get paid either!
Jul 17th, 2012 - 04:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@41 TTT
Jul 17th, 2012 - 04:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If you knew anything about contracts, you would know that they typically contain a clause stating the jurisdiction under which disputes are to be settled. If Argentina is refusing to respect the judgements of jurisdictions to which it has legally committed itself, then you don't have to hunt very far to find where the hypocrite is.
And of course, needless to say, nobody in their right mind has accepted the jurisdiction of Argentine courts in respect of hydrocarbon or other rights in UK waters.
46. I believe if you do the math you're probably still ahead if you used pesos to invest...you should jump in if Afip allows you to buy stock.
Jul 17th, 2012 - 04:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Think, what happens when the peso is $7/1 ( it's closer to 7 then 6 now) to the price of nat gas or medicine?
Do you remember posting the nonsense about them stopping it in the high 5s..I seem to remember saying that wouldn't work. Care to say which of us was correct?
Have they shut down dialysis all over the country yet?
Argentina does not comply with the judgements of the International Court of Justice either
Jul 17th, 2012 - 04:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@48
Jul 17th, 2012 - 04:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are cookoo. Argentina has an obligation to subject itself to foreign courts?
Get out of here, arrogant.
@51
Jul 17th, 2012 - 04:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Try reading what I said again.
Any companie that demands a clause stating they will not abide by the local justice system, deserves to get double-crossed. Too bad.
Jul 17th, 2012 - 05:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0ICSID is a court Argentina is obligated to obey.
Jul 17th, 2012 - 05:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@54
Jul 17th, 2012 - 05:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Not if other countries disregard it, of which yours is an ever-citable example.
@42 Her “grip” is a desperate claw. Love the “democratic” bit while the Hag is trying to remove the democratically-elected head of a union. You don't have a “thriving democracy”. You have a “thriving kleptocratic anarchy”.
Jul 17th, 2012 - 05:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@46 At your pace, WE could bury the lot of you and you wouldn't notice. There's an idea!
@51 No. The contract will specify that it is to be interpreted in accordance with English law.
@53 Doesn't matter. Your corrupt judicial “system” has no jurisdiction.
Well I guess you'll will see...B
Jul 17th, 2012 - 05:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0BTW Did Angola and/or Azerbaijan pick up all the lost wine sales to the USA?
55... Then to sum up Argentina or the trolls say that Argentina can pick and choose which courts to obey...then the UK or any international companies can ignore the tinpot rg kangaroo court, and no fake Aussie sunshine , it's not the national Australian court.
Jul 17th, 2012 - 05:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0loan have it both ways my humiliated rg chums
@56
Jul 17th, 2012 - 05:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Which we summarily disregard as no one trust a UK court, much less could an Argentine ever trust a UK court.
@57
It seem so, as production has not dipped one bit. Nothing on the news about any wine glut. Good times.
@58
Not pick and choose, we simply do not bow to your courts, or any court outside Argentina, end of story. If you don't like it, do something about it.
LOL.
Think - companies go bust based on capitalization and the availability of funds usually held against an asset. Not on share price performance in the secondary market.
Jul 17th, 2012 - 05:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Buying and trading oportunity this presents. Not for me however as I am on holiday in three days :-) More important things than money. But imagine if the Darwin results come in good. In the future my chosen airline may be filling the tank up with products from the condensate in Darwin :-)
59.... What do we need to do about it???? We are not threatening court action, it's your governments propaganda diversion.
Jul 17th, 2012 - 05:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This comes from a country that was soundly beaten on the field of conflict, so excuse me if the uk doesn't get to frightened by your fake macho ratings. Do as your soldiers did and rUn away like frightened children
@61
Jul 17th, 2012 - 05:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Cameron crying about Argie protectionism, in the USA, in the G20, in a meeting with Rajoy, in an EU gathering, in the House of Commons... crying all over the planet about it, what has he done? NOTHING. What has Europe or the USA done after 10 years of supposed reneged “debt” arrears? Too chicken. What has China or Brazil done about trade restrictions (real MANLY action, not the petty threats both countries have given).
For how long have we seen the world complain about Argieland... what have you done??? LOL. I'm quaking I tell you.
62... Oh god your back with your crying rant..everyone is crying .... The debating skills of a five year old
Jul 17th, 2012 - 06:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@64
Jul 17th, 2012 - 06:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Tangent drawing = no argument left.
64.. You certainly have wrapped up this debate...how can we compete with your churchillian posts.
Jul 17th, 2012 - 06:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Someone should explain to the Argy Gov the meaning in English of the word “clandestine”.
Jul 17th, 2012 - 06:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am very certain the Argentine Government well knows British garrymanders on the islands despite of their clandestines.
Jul 17th, 2012 - 06:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 067. In English please?
Jul 17th, 2012 - 07:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0mirabile dictu !
Jul 17th, 2012 - 07:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0dont you know the meaning of garrymander as English ?
garrymander = rigging ( hanky-panky)
@62
Jul 17th, 2012 - 07:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0These are the kind of attitudes even toddlers learn are ineffective in the long run.
67... The rest of the post doesn't make sense..dam google translate..
Jul 17th, 2012 - 07:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Troll and your Argentine compañeros Or are you on duty 24 hours a day on your own? Decisions of Argentine or British courts are not binding but those of the International Court of Justice are.You took Uruguay to the ICJ at useless expense.Have you complied with the judgement of that court and its recommendations? No of course not. Wel thats par for the course for the porteños and we didnt expect anything else
Jul 17th, 2012 - 08:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I swear they planned on doing this since May which was supposedly a “deadline”.
Jul 17th, 2012 - 08:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0More hot air from CFK, nothing more.
Yes CFK announced a May deadline...but maybe she meant 2013...
Jul 17th, 2012 - 09:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why do you argue over a none event,
Jul 17th, 2012 - 11:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The real question is,
Can she, or cant she,
Apparently, inside Argentina, she cant have you all put up against a wall, and tickled to death,
[You thought I was going to say ??]
But out side of argentine influence, she has no more enforceable, power than the pilchard islands,
She has no way to enforce, nothing,
[except]
Collaboration secondary back up,
Now then,,
If she could persuade the rest of south America, to enforce argentine law, you might have a headache, and she will have nightmares,
Truth is mates,
CFK can do nothing, out side of argentine territory,
And that is a fact , a very true fact,
Unless ?????????????
We leave this bit to the clever intelligent Argies, as they will no doubt tell us all otherwise lol.
Just a tickle.
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Anyone notice that the troll only replies to comments he thinks he can defend? About courts particularly the International Court of Justice - well to him thats a load of rubbish if the judgement does not go totally in his favour isnt it?
Jul 18th, 2012 - 12:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0Urinehopper Exploitation down again?? 197.62 -25.75 (-11.56%) :-))))
Jul 18th, 2012 - 03:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0Back to the sheeps islanders!
Good buying opportunity Marcos. FI oil to be filling up the Jag from 2017. Would advise that you look at building a stake PMO :-)
Jul 18th, 2012 - 06:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0I thought we were going to be dragged to court back in May?
#67
Jul 18th, 2012 - 07:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0I think you mean gerrymander
The recent share price falls are certainly disappointing after all those heady gains. The falls have nearly been as steep as the fall in the value of the Peso. Tut tut....but that's the markets for you.
Jul 18th, 2012 - 10:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0@62 TTT
Jul 18th, 2012 - 11:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0Britain is not blind to the antics of the tantrum child but when you're dealing with a child you have to use kid gloves and CFK is no adult.
Argentina is breaking its own constitution in meddling with the affairs of the islanders wether it be drilling for oil or flights to neighbouring countries. It specifically states that argentina should respect the way of life of the islanders. So, if they want to wear hats fashioned from whiffy fish entrails or drive on the correct side of the road or drill for oil then Argentina should respect this. The constitution states:
“respectful of the way of life of their inhabitants and according to the principles of international law”
The islanders break no international laws and they do not seek to meddle in the lives of argentinians. The same cannot be said for argentina. :-(
59 Truth_Telling_Troll. If you don't like it, do something about it.
Jul 18th, 2012 - 03:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ok, I am sending down a few nuclear and a couple of new frigates to do something about it. First hit will be your home because my intelligence service has pinpointed where you live and second hit will be Christian's pad, third hit will be your justice system, fourth hit will be!!!!!! Oh never mind after the first hit your country held its hands up and surrendered did not need to do the other three but I just wanted to see you all squirm.
Call me Dave.
Well you did say do something about it, so I am
The Economist ( not me )tells us what you are !
Jul 18th, 2012 - 06:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.economist.com/blogs/graphicdetail/2012/07/daily-chart-11
You lazy wastrels.
@82
Jul 18th, 2012 - 06:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0New Frigates? They don't come until 2020 to replace the type 23's. Please drop the whole Cameron thing it isn't funny or remotely clever.
I personally find it rather amusing with think. All these nails in our coffin, yet nothing seems to change. I'm not quite sure if it's the inbred nationalism or the old age. has to be one or the other.
Jul 18th, 2012 - 06:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There is absolutely no point in warning someone, unless you are prepared to back it up,
Jul 18th, 2012 - 08:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0For if that someone ignores you,
And you fail to back it up,
Then you have just made your self look stupid very and weak, in the eyes of the world,
Let alone your own people.
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@ 28 DanyBerger
Jul 18th, 2012 - 10:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“This will not stop Argentina justice to prosecute all them and if they don’t comply with the requirement of Arg. Justice like to attend the court they will be declare in “rebelliousness” so the court can issue a international arrest warrant. ... But the offenders could not put a foot in any other country without risking to be caught by Interpol.”
Pure rubbish, same as the case you refer to has no bearing on the Falklands issue.
If you were right, Britain could pass a law making it illegal to refer to the Falkland Islands as “Malvinas” and issue a international arrest warrant for all Argentinos who use that expression. The offenders could not put a foot in any other country without risking to be caught by Interpol.
#83 Your point is given Argentina is as bad as Britain?
Jul 19th, 2012 - 07:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0@St.John
Jul 19th, 2012 - 09:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0Malvinas and??????????????????????
Malvinas and?????? CFK dreamland
Jul 19th, 2012 - 11:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0extradite all of us to argieland,
50 million brits under arrest, and having fun in argentina,
wonderfull fun,
but not for you lot,
you will have to pay for it,
dreams are made good things,
malvinas just dont exist .
84 Conor
Jul 19th, 2012 - 01:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0David Cameron is one of the better spoof posters. Why not direct your ire at British Kirchnerist instead?
The reaction of those companies that KFC & Co. have threatened is to say “Yeah, whatever” and carry on. The Argentine government is making itself look even more ridiculous than it already is.
Jul 19th, 2012 - 01:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0perhaps she will send out her fleet,
Jul 19th, 2012 - 10:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0to inforce her will,
if indeed she can find the fleet.
@89
Jul 19th, 2012 - 11:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There is no such name as the Malvinas.
Otherwise the democratically elected government of the Falklands would be called the M-I-G.
I could call the islands Diddledeeland, Hawkens Maidenland, Scraggpaddockpointaria, Albatrosstina Tussacgrassaria, Wokkawokkanada, Wheniwasistan, all of them like the Malvinas, complete and utter nonsense because the people who live there recognise them as, the Falkland Islands.
There are no 'Malvinas' signs on the Islands, which is the biggest and most obvious giveaway.
To call the Islands the Malvinas, the Argentines will have to prove with history that cannot be disputed, and that according to international law without any shadow of a doubt, the Falklands belong to them.
They cannot.
Every Malvinista that has tried to argue the Argentinian case on these posts including the spirited and well argued case of the guy that says that the UK only own Port Egmont, has failed to answer the counter arguments deployed by the pro-Falklands side. Even that guy came unstuck because if the UK only owned Port Egmont, therefore Spain only owned Port Louis, which killed off his argument about Spain owning the rest of the islands.
The other option is that the Argentines will have to invade the Islands against the Falkland Islander's will to impose this comic, ridiculous sounding name.
I mean, Malvinas, it sounds like a diseased vineyard.
FOGL Share Price up 10% today. Hurrah.
Jul 20th, 2012 - 08:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0The steep decline in the Argentine Peso continues. Shame.
@94 Pete Bog Nicely put. They only called The Falkland Islands “malvinas” because they can't pronounce Falkland Islands, but they thought, erroneously, that they could pronounce “îles Malouines”.
Jul 20th, 2012 - 12:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We even put up a big sign to help the malvinistas: http://www.falklandislands.com/images/view/29/942.jpg
Please support this page - Falkland Islands Desire The Right - dedicated to Falkland Islands current affairs, keeping the islands free and poking fun at the lunacy of the Argentine government and their various claims and winding up their Internet trolls -
Jul 20th, 2012 - 05:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0https://www.facebook.com/Britain1592
@96
Jul 22nd, 2012 - 11:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0Thanks Alexei-I have copied that and will post it every time some prat calls the Falklands the Malvinas.
@96
Jul 22nd, 2012 - 03:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Good sign! It's a pity it's not 300 feet high with flashing lights!
All in all, this is a non-story, as the Argentine government remains completely impotent. All it has been able to do for the last 30 years is stamp its foot and cry. That doesn't impress anyone, and the companies will keep drilling, and then they'll reap the profits. And because of Argentine arrogance and pettiness by uni-laterally pulling out of agreements with the Falkland Islanders they will get nothing at all.
Added to this is the fact that the Argentine government has spent the last 12 months humiliating itself on the world stage, and this impotent threat is just one more way of embarrassing itself.
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