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Cristina Fernandez unleashes tax agency against opponents, claims The Economist
Under the heading of “Knock, knock, the government unleashes the tax agency against its opponents” The Economist latest edition claims that President Cristina Fernandez is using the tax revenue office to hound its political enemies. Read full article
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Jul 19th, 2012 - 10:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0perhaps this guy is swatting for the wrong side .
president, Cristina Fernández.
“she called herself an “icon ?/
That right,
I conn everyone ,,in her own words lol.
what is it about Argentinians,and their politicians that they cannot endure criticism ,in Ireland and the west,criticism is used as a tool to help us improve but Argentinian arrogance precludes this,if you chip away at democracy how long will it last,how long to the next Junta?
Jul 19th, 2012 - 11:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Seems like at least two bloggers here didn't read the middle of the report. “Argentina is rife with evasion—30-40% of the economy is informal—and AFIP cannot hope to pursue most of the country’s cheats.”
Jul 19th, 2012 - 11:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's about time the tax office started to make itself present, all Argentine's hope for more headlines like thisone.
@3 I think we are all aware that thieving and cheating is endemic in RG land. What this article is about is the blatent targeting of 'enemies of the state'....
Jul 20th, 2012 - 02:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0I guess the Economist this time has really went down to the bottom by writing an article like this Clarin/La Nacion copy past.
Jul 20th, 2012 - 02:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0Are they really so desperate?
Anyone having a business in ARG has inspection from AFIP regularly is the AFIP job to make sure that you are not cooking the books like happen in UK with the banks.
In UK HM Revenue & Customs (former Inland Revenue) does the same.
Why should be del Potro or Clarin and exception?
I will not be surprised if the shitty Economist writes and article saying..
Criminals are complying for been arrested because they didn’t want to have a picture with Cristina. Ha ha
I guess crooks neocons do whatever they can to keep their privileges a good example is the banking sector in UK and USA.
God save Queen Cristina © British Kirchnerista
3 & 5 - You make anybody ready to throw-up.
Jul 20th, 2012 - 05:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0Reading the press on the Argentinian government, it seems pretty clear that either you are in CFK's camp, in which case you can do no wrong no matter how stupid or criminal you are, or you do or say something that she doesn't like in which case you are in big trouble. I can't believe any country which is supposed to be democratic and mature can allow itself to be governed in such a way. It won't end well, I promise you.
Jul 20th, 2012 - 06:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Argentina is rife with evasion—30-40% of the economy is informal”
Jul 20th, 2012 - 06:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0So according with The Economist figure above, ARG nominal GDP should be USD 700bn and more than 1,2 trillion in PPP. Because that % is not counted into the Arg GDP.
What will turns Argentina the 15th biggest economy in the world just behind Canada with 1.4t.
Well may be they are right after all....
Ah good old Danny, always sure to get completely the wrong end of the stick and distort facts.
Jul 20th, 2012 - 06:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0'Anyone having a business in ARG has inspection from AFIP regularly is the AFIP job to make sure that you are not cooking the books like happen in UK with the banks.'
Or not since 30-40% of the economy is informal.
As for Clarin, publish a story and then 200 tax inspectors turn up within hours, just coincidence I guess in your little world?
And if that wasn't enough Cretina has even admitted targeting individuals/businesses that she doesn't like.
Anyway back in reality as opposed to what Dany the space cadet calls it, just another day in the corrupt world of South America.
@Xect
Jul 20th, 2012 - 09:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0“As for Clarin, publish a story and then 200 tax inspectors turn up within hours, just coincidence I guess in your little world?”
I have many AFIP inspections and?
Should I cry and say that the govt. is targeting me?
By law AFIP can inspect you all the time and if you comply is because you have something to hide.
Do you know any drug dealer happy with the police?
30-40 %Tax evasion, 37%inflation, enemies of the state (tennis player lol), worthless currency, poilitcal & economic alliances with murderous regimes, pathetic armed forces, enjoy bullying small neighbouring countries, 1 in 3 in the population experiences crime.
Jul 20th, 2012 - 10:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0What a disgusting country you are!
@3 When will AFIP be starting its investigation into the finances of CFK and other members of the “government”. Was it 2009 an investigation into her finances was shut down by the judge that ordered it in the first place?
Jul 20th, 2012 - 11:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0@5 And when was CFK's last “regular” inspection? And Tinman's? And Putrid Jelly's? And all the other drones?
@8 Doesn't say it's not counted. Just doesn't get taxed!
@10 I believe CFK is one!
This is a blatant abuse of power and is a step towards the tactics used by Chavev to cling to power as highlighted by the Human Watch Report on Venezuala this week. What CFK is saying is that corrpution and tax evasion from her supporters is ok but not from her critics. As the countries economics spiral out of control and the threat of civil unrest grows CFK is showing her true Peronist colours and enagaging in abuse of power to sustain her ploitcal career.
Jul 20th, 2012 - 01:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0For a tennis player to be targeted by AFIP because he refused to prop up her political campaign is a violation of his human rights.
The Argentine supreme court and the Senete need to impliment rulings restriction the presidents power to use the national tax agency as a politcal weapon. AFIP is there to serve the people, not the dominient politcal party.
At least britain is busy trying to clear up the mess,
Jul 20th, 2012 - 01:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0we may not be perfect, but by hell we do try to be honest, and stop coruption where we find it,
perhaps the argies could do the same, rather than sit on the sidelines throwing rubbish.
I guess when you no longer have a military to do your handiwork, tax agents are the next best thing. In the USA we have the IRS that does audits. However they are random audits. The likihood of being audited twice in a lifetime is.......well......likely to win a lottery twice, unless you are a known and consistent problem.
Jul 20th, 2012 - 06:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That abuse of power reminds my of our old presiden Nixon........but then he was about to be impeached and was forced to resign. But what do I know......we're a democracy.....republic democracy that is.
DanyBerger (#)
Jul 20th, 2012 - 07:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Shit for brains.
@11
Jul 21st, 2012 - 12:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0Banking system completely based on fraud, incompetent overseeing authorities, endless austerity, multiple wars of agression in the last 10 years, massive riots burning your biggest cities down (including historic buildings), appalling past history of bullying little bronze-age tribes across the sea, rigged interest rates, long history of internal terrorism...
Wanna play the game again? Your country ain't all that.
Anyone for tennis?
Jul 21st, 2012 - 10:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0Cristina lovely, wonderful woman, intelligent just a Queen.
Jul 22nd, 2012 - 08:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0AFIP the best fellow I ever met in my entire life.
I guess i can start to cook my books now according with some idiots here.
ha ha
As an Argentine I am happy and proud Argentina is targeting tax cheats, I am not convinced AFIP is targeting the opposition since 60 to 70% of the population doesn't report taxes, with odds like that chances are that if you do collect taxes you would be finding large groups of friends and foes milking it. I would understand the allegations if people would be put on planes and thrown in the oceans, but this is not the case, I assume UK and USA punishes civilians for tax evasion don't they??
Jul 22nd, 2012 - 01:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes but random audits and a far drop from 200 agents. As for actual tax evasion, that has to be proven in court, not by the tax agents saying you're a cheat. It's quite a process.
Jul 22nd, 2012 - 01:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 7 Iron Man
Jul 22nd, 2012 - 11:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“I can't believe any country which is supposed to be democratic and mature can allow itself to be governed in such a way.”
Belorus, Zimbabwe, North Korea just to name a few :-D
@Captain Poppy
Jul 23rd, 2012 - 04:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0Everywhere is like this but I knew a case in Britain from 1992 that a guy having vendor machines for coffee, chocolate, candies, etc.
Was send to court and he went into bankruptcy because the old IR in UK made an arbitrary calculation over how much the poor guy had to earn despite all the proof and documentation showed by him.
In US you have the famous case of Bud Abbott & Lou Costello (comedians) that they were prosecuted for back taxes for political reasons. The guys went from rich to poor destroying their life.
So claiming that UK or US system is fairest than the Argentina one is quite scary assertion.
@ St.John
You forgot UK in your list...
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Jul 23rd, 2012 - 10:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0Comedians that have been dead for over 50 years.....really, you watch too much old tv
“Argentina has few advocates of freedom of speech more vocal than its president, Cristina Fernández”
Jul 23rd, 2012 - 01:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So true. And even her enemies (I think its fair and accurate to call them that now) at the Economist say it! And when an incumbent President is championing freedom of speech rather than claming down, it means they are unusually principled or unusually confident of their popularity; in the case of the lovely Cristina, probably both =)
As for the rest of the article, maybe its just that the pro-rich opposition are more likely to be tax cheats?!
#19 Hehehe! And when am I gonna get my pay that people keep talking about?! Great comments on this one Dany (and thanks for the name check (I think!))
SOmeone was correct when they said all S.A.'s quote old data. The Abbott and Costello case is from 1930s when marginal tax rates were 90%....and the did cheat and evade taxes. Quoute some relevant history in modern data where our IRS uses 200 agents to search a well established business? Even the IRS needs a search warrnt for due process here.
Jul 23rd, 2012 - 03:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@British_Kirchnerist
Jul 24th, 2012 - 09:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0To be honest I don’t know where the payment office is but we can ask to the idiots here were to cash “Clarin & La Nacion” cheques.
Someone told me that once found the office you only have to say “I hate Kretina, all are corrupts, dollar, dollar, insecurity and campo” that’s it you get your check. But I suggest you to pass first for the “Mercado de Liniers” a bit of cow shit smell will help a lot to increase you payment.
: )
@Captain Poppy
I have posted that example because seems that the younger in this forum has at least 60 or may be 70 years old.
Search for a more recent one....I'm 53. There are plenty out there as the IRS does prosecute tax cheats, only with due process.
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