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Mercosur ratifies before review tribunal decision to suspend Paraguay
Mercosur full members Argentina, Brazil and Uruguay are insisting with their decision to sanction the Paraguayan government following the impeachment and removal of former president Fernando Lugo Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesWhat a revolting smug grin KFC has. She looks very pleased with herself, the plot to shaft Paraguay and get the clown Chavez into her socialist club worked as planned. I predict that smile won't last long.
Jul 19th, 2012 - 08:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0“The five-member Mercosur standing tribunal is made up of a member from Argentina, Paraguay, Uruguay and two from Brazil”
Jul 19th, 2012 - 09:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0Not very fair in my opinion, outvoted 4 to 1 at the start, Arg, Ur & Br are not exactly going to go against their own decition. Hmmm Latino politics never cease to amaze.
I cannot wait to see der präsident Hugo Chavez joining the MERCOSUR table.
Jul 19th, 2012 - 10:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0He surely will have a lot of ideas to contribute to the M club.
Ah! Mecosur from Antatica to the Caribbean cost.
Can someone ask for more?
I guess not.
I just only wait for jealous Britons falling faster to poverty and stagnation posts. Cri... cri....
Anybody there?
The whole World knows it was a conspiracy to admit Venezuala!
Jul 19th, 2012 - 11:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0Mersosur and its credibility is doomed if the tribunal does not rule in Paraguay's favour.
BRAZIL show know better than to be part of this charade!
@3 WE're still here. Still big and bad and nasty. So, it's to be totalitarian dictatorship between two places you can't even spell.
Jul 19th, 2012 - 11:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0If you were to keep up to date, you would have noticed that Britain's economic situation is starting to improve AGAIN. Although it never had any chance of becoming anywhere near as bad as argieland's. How's the 30% inflation going? Is mummy still paying your bills? How about the fuel shortages? What about the 20% fall in the soy harvest? How about the 20% fall in the amount of wheat that can be planted? Gonna get a little bit cold and hungry in a while. Looking forward to argie slappers slapping themselves and each other in a pitiful attempt, not to stay warm, to stay alive. Would you like some British aid? No problem. WE'll pop by, execute every member of your joke “government” and take control of your pitiful, backward, criminal cuntry. Perhaps, and I only say perhaps, in a hundred years or so, we might be able to teach you to be people instead of two-legged animals. It's true that it's a bit of a long shot. But it's what WE more or less achieved with India. Much like argieland when we got there. A bunch of self-indulgent, power-mad dictators and the servile, untouchable, poverty-stricken majority. But, by the time we'd “finished” even their independence movement was conducted largely democratically. You too could benefit in the same way. OR, if it seems you are beyond help and hope, we could eradicate the lot of you!
banana republics... nuthin' more to say.
Jul 19th, 2012 - 11:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0And so starts the oppression,
Jul 19th, 2012 - 12:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The dye is cast, and the ball is rolling
And CFK is in the driving seat.
Next .
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Cristina Fernandez said that the region “will fight tooth and nail” in support of peoples’ sovereign decisions when voting in direct reference to the Paraguayan situation.
Jul 19th, 2012 - 12:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Excpet for the rights of Venezulas people to a governemnt which respects international human rights. Human rights watch published a report yesterday in which they cite the various tactics used by the Chavez government to cement his control of the country.
http://www.hrw.org/reports/2012/07/17/tightening-grip-0
In addition the inclusion of Venezula is ilegal under the consituntion of Mercsour. All full members must ratify the inclusion of new nations and regardless of wether they are suspensed or not Paraguay is a full member and this status cannot be removed.
I believe the new government in Paraguay will see how it has been treated by its “Allies” who have shown their contempt for Paraguays consititutional right to impeach a preisdent and will not fully engage with Mercsour in the future. I belive the EU mission is fostering closer ties with Parguay in a hope of securing a new trade partner allied to the European model and therefore secure an ally in SA.
The inclusion of Venuzual will only hurt Mercsocur intrests in North American and Europe and leave it worse off overall. Althought now there will be some state funded jollies to Caracus for the other nations.
@8 You forgot to mention Paraguay's right to conduct its own internal affairs in accordance with its own constitution.
Jul 19th, 2012 - 01:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@9
Jul 19th, 2012 - 01:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A constituion you would of thought had been accepted by the other members at the time of accepting Paraguay as a full member.
The problem with Paraguay is, although it is legal the political judge, you cant give 2 hours a president to make his defence and resolve such an important subject in two hours. If someone steals a chicken here, will have a much more long process.
Jul 19th, 2012 - 01:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Lugo also accepted the political resolution so as not to make a fracture in people, so I find it logical a suspension till the elections that are going to be in six months. Its an impasse.
see you in The Hague then....
Jul 19th, 2012 - 01:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@11
Jul 19th, 2012 - 02:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But where do you stand on the legality of Venezula being admited despite the ratification of Paraguay?
Uruguay should be very concerned. If that old drunk commie could see where this is leading he should side with Paraguay and block Arg and Brazil. What a mess!
Jul 19th, 2012 - 02:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0MercoSur is dying I doubt it will be around for much longer anyway. What good is a trade block that doesn't trade? Utterly Ridiculous!
Appologise, I meant to say Paraguay not ratifing the inclusion of Venezula.
Jul 19th, 2012 - 02:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Mercosur died several weeks ago, it just hasn't realized yet.
Jul 19th, 2012 - 02:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As Chávez said the other day it is now a military pact, not a trading bloc.
@ 16 Simon..that's an interesting observation. With Chavez being prone to making ridiculous threatening statements it will be interesting to observe how KFC's stance on 'demilitarisation of the South Atlantic' may alter if she feels the wind is blowing in the right direction (and there is liable to be plenty of wind if Chavez has anything to do with it!)
Jul 19th, 2012 - 06:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@3 DanyBerger - hey now you are being mean - leave it out! You know that the bit of the Antarctic that points in your general direction belongs to us..what with all the things you're saying anyone would think that you don't like us..
Conq
Jul 19th, 2012 - 07:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You never cease to impress me with your stupidity.
The reason you aren't even more stupid is simply because the days are just not long enough :)
EngineerAbroad
What law makes The inclusion of Venezuela “ilegal”, according to you?
Mercosur is a trade bloc that works on agreements, not laws. They agreed on suspending Paraguay and including Venezuela. A llorar al cuartito :)
@18 Your stupidity doesn't surprise me. Most latams are as thick as 15 short planks cut in half and piled on top of each other. You, however, are in the supa-latam class. Can't tell how many planks, but you have reached the “impenetrable”. Possibly the “black hole” of intelligence. Where anything semi-intelligent can be sucked in but nothing comes out. And it is certain that nothing of any moment comes out of you.
Jul 19th, 2012 - 08:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Treaty of Asuncion makes the admission of Venezuela illegitimate. Admission of a new member requires the agreement of all full members. And thus, once again, you prove yourself to be less able in the “brain” department than a louse. Although doubtless there are physical similarities.
@18
Jul 19th, 2012 - 08:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Mercosur is a trade bloc that works on agreements, not laws. They agreed on suspending Paraguay and including Venezuela. A llorar al cuartito :)
Trade bloc? Well according to the corrupt Mr Chavez its a military bloc now.
18
Jul 19th, 2012 - 08:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0true !
@5
Jul 19th, 2012 - 09:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What a liar.
This old man needs to stop dreaming and face the facts.
The UK PM Camoron announced austerity in the UK until 2020.
My USA and Argentina are having bad economic times and is unkown if the argentine leader and “food stamps” US president Obama can handle the bad economic times. Lets wait and see.
Here in the USA the postal services owned by the federal goverment have a deficit of U$S 8 Billons dollars. Who caused such deficit? No one knows.
22
Jul 19th, 2012 - 10:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0the british austerity is to 2015,
more or less depending on the ecconnamy,
britain is not that poor,
we are holing our own, and will always hold our own,
we have so far this year exported more to the outside world than to europe,
we will grow, slowly but grow we will,
engineer
Jul 19th, 2012 - 10:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What happenned in P. was legal but desprolijo or not serious in a democracy. In Arg once we had 5 presidents in a week, very desprolijo. Then we went to elections and all got its democratic way again. P. has not been expelled, thats important.
Venezuela, I dont like Chávez, too much time in power (with democratic elections), but the country is an important one to be part of Mercosur. Much more trade between south america. Much more union between us, its a benefit for all. Look at europe, all united in economy with the EU, on the militarily with NATO, etc. Its important for regions to be more and more united. And been able to take our own decissions, resolve our own problems, less dependant of foreign interventions. Hope Africa can become stronger on that.
Only P. voted against its entrance. But if three countries over one democratically chooses Venezuela incorporation I (a common person, with zero knoledge in politics, laws and so) find it possible and a benefit for us.
once we had 5 presidents in a week
Jul 19th, 2012 - 10:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0boy, lucky you lot,
we had rain here once for 5 days,
but it went away, and the sun came out,
a pity then your did not shine enough to stay put ,lol.
@ Briton
Jul 20th, 2012 - 12:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0I do not wish to receive your reply anymore.
@TreborDoyle
Jul 20th, 2012 - 05:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0“The whole World knows it was a conspiracy to admit Venezuala!”
BTW is Venezuela and not “VeneZuala”
More care and respect when you are talking about our fellow brand new Mecosur member.
@Conqueror
“If you were to keep up to date, you would have noticed that Britain's economic situation is starting to improve AGAIN”
Ha ha ha Sorry I couldn’t read more I knew that the rest would be more crap as usual.
“Starting to improve” its a new euphemism for recession? Like the QE for printing money?
@EnginnerAbroad
“In addition the inclusion of Venezula is ilegal under the consituntion of Mercsour.”
“Venezula”?? may be but Venezuela doesn’t she is embracing the union of the most democratic countries in the world.
@27
Jul 20th, 2012 - 12:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“More care and respect when you are talking about our fellow brand new Mecosur member.” Why what are you going to do about it?
“Ha ha ha Sorry I couldn’t read more I knew that the rest would be more crap as usual. “Starting to improve” its a new euphemism for recession? Like the QE for printing money?” Yeah actually our economy is improving even better then expected, low inflation, higher productivity, manufacturing increases, reduced unemployment etc. “Printing money”-coming from an Argie, what is it 3 annual inflation figures? 30% tisk tisk tisk.
“may be but Venezuela doesn’t she is embracing the union of the most democratic countries in the world.” Democratic? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! and another Ha! You have obviously never heard of Europe? and its northern countries. I think you will find all Latam countries are classified as flawed democracies - go look up the definition.
26 SussieUS
Jul 20th, 2012 - 01:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0thank god, you got the messege,
you no reply to me,,
eye no reply to you,
and that includes your stalking me and a busife insults on the other blog,
take the advise of a gentlemen,
grow up,
change your site name, and start again, and most importent,
[stop insulting, and be polite]
bye bye .
@briton, gentleman?
Jul 20th, 2012 - 09:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No way.
Who gives you and Conqueror the rights to insult the argentine leader, my country Argentina and argentinians citizens?
Don't tell me to grow up. You started challenging my dual nationalities.You have the fact about the dual nationalities in the internet but you and Conqueror
stated you had “connections” in Sky Harbor to check on my legal residence status in the USA. How stupid can you get? Don't you know how to check the facts in the internet? You need to learn about the USA Immigration and Privacy Act laws. Who wants to have contacts with an old uneducated briton?
Only Isolde.
Go to sleep old man, there is nothing more for you to rattle.
30 SussieUS [brit stalker]
Jul 20th, 2012 - 09:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0can you read,
eye have not or ever mention crap about sky harbour,
you started the insults, to me and others,
eye did not chalenge your nationality,
[i said you could not be both]
you can have only one loyalty,,,,, nothing to do with pasports, [you miss read it]
i do not insult, i keep asking you to be polit, followed by insults from you,
you tell me not to reply, 5 minutes later you again reply to me,
i am not an old man, bearly 22, and as i have stated before, far to young for you,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
so either be POLITE,
or just follow your own advice, and dont answer,
and stop stalking me .
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besides i may only live withing 3 miles of you, so poncho,, honcho .
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now if you dont mind, im trying to fly this spacecraft, in one peice...
Disgraceful photo of Pussy Whipped Pepe behind the 'girls'.
Jul 21st, 2012 - 10:55 am - Link - Report abuse 031 briton
Left hand down a bit! :o)
@Conor
Jul 22nd, 2012 - 07:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0“You have obviously never heard of Europe?”
Euro what? Is a new cell phone? Or a social media website?
Can you tell more please?
@ 33 Mr Berger
Jul 22nd, 2012 - 06:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Euro what? Is a new cell phone? Or a social media website?”- Your poor English has me struggling to understand what you are saying. If you are referring to the economic situation you in Argentina have no right to complain as your situation isn't much better, As for democracy you know as well as I do that we in Europe have far more democracy and freedom compared to you in Latam. As I said “flawed democracies.”
@Conor
Jul 23rd, 2012 - 06:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0Conor, conor, conor little boy I don’t want to be offensive with you because I think that your ignorance is not your fault after all.
When you say We in Europe or We Europeans you just make me laugh about the shit your post all the time.
Do you know why?
Because I’m European do you understand my sarcasm now?
So please in the future stop referring your self as the “Europeans” that are speaking for the whole Europe talk about your own nation because we European don’t support you in any of the shit you like to post over here.
#1 I don't even think she's particularly smiling in the photo, let alone “smirking”, I think she looks determined which is what she's been in opposing this coup, but I know she's so radiant she can look like she's smiling even when she's not =) But yes things are going her way (and Chaverz's) simply because of the stupidity of the Paraguyan oligarchy
Jul 23rd, 2012 - 12:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#32 He's a real man who has fought and spent long years in prison for his beliefs, so he doesn't have to live up to your sexist macho expectations
@36 Blind_Scottie_Kirchnerist
Jul 23rd, 2012 - 02:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“#32 He's a real man who has fought and spent long years in prison for his beliefs, so he doesn't have to live up to your sexist macho expectations”
Very true. But he has to run the country for his own people NOT the Argentineans.
I had thought, when I first came to Uruguay to live, some 15 months ago now that Pepe was making all the smart moves.
However, I do not know what has changed but things are getting out of hand with Argentina fcuking our economy up almost as much as their own. No surprise that they have reneged on an agreement to accept 4,000 vehicles from Uruguay per year. This breach of agreement has resulted in many hundreds of lay-offs and Chery are contemplating closing their factory.
And Pepe, advised by a 'close friend' of The Mad Bitch Of Argentina, who happens to be the Uruguayo Ambassador to BsAs no less, is being smoozled into following her skirts.
That is why I, and many Uruguayo say he is pussy-whipped.
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