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Excellent article: j
it was time that this was pointed out though I think the consumers are becoming more discriminating in this respect. Cattle and sheep are ruminant animals and do there best on grass,hay or a cereal ration to finish. The feeding of hormones is indefensible as is feeding ruminants on reprocessed brains of old sheep and indiscriminate vaccination with the results in the human population down the food chain that the article refers to
(1)Red Poll
Excellent article indeed.....
Just a question to an Oriental farmer.....
What's your opinion/position on GM rice?
What's your opinion/position on GMO's in general.
Is that your Yoruga farmer’s way to say that you go all in for GMO as long as the official certificates are in order and you will not be made personally accountable?
Let me rephrase the question……:
What do think of the idea of “branding” the name URUGUAY as a premium GMO & chemical free, sustainable and ethical food producer?
Well we already have a slogan Uruguay natural There is already a program in place whereby farmers are certificated as using no herbicides and no chemical fertilizers. In the case of meat the frigorificos pay a premium on beef produced under these conditions so its good business. As every animal is electronically tagged and registered with the MGAP every animal cut can be traced from birth until it ends up on the supmarket shelves. Our Ministry figures are regularly audited by our international customers and are believed and thats why we get a higher price than even the Australians for our beef.
I dont want to enter into a slanging match with our Argentine cousins(?)but their Mistry of Agriculture figures are not really trusted internationally. If you want chapter and verse on that and specific instances I can give them but really its Argentinas problem, not Uruguay´s
Well…..
At least you can see that it’s good business………….
Hope that Uruguay goes further on the right path and that a stamp saying “URUGUAY” becomes an internationally recognized symbol of quality foods.
Eventually it would be nice if Argentina followed the example of our little brother. (No question mark).
Tell me something, botija…
Why are you so angry at us?.....
I can’t help noticing that you use nearly every one of your comments to throw a balde de bosta at us…..
Chubut, Buen día.
Well you people in Patgonia have a prime opportunity as you are totally free of aftosa. I say, go for it! Price of wool doesnt look too bad either and you are good at that.
I dont thrown un balde de bosta at Argentines in general, but it is directed at your government
Why are we angry? Because your govt bullies us. Blocking the international bridges for four years.
Refusal by the Argentine authorites to release the pollution figures on the Rio Uruguay in accordance with the ICJ judgement.
Sniffer dogs to make sure no Argentines take any dollars on holiday to Uruguay.
Arbitrary restrictions on Uruguays exports to Argentina in contravention of the Mercosur which has thrown 10.000 people out of work.
As a concession from RA we get a toy train from nowhere in particular to Paso de Los toros (nowhere at alL) which only reached its detination once and was received by Cristina and Pepe con bombas y platillos and now has been suspended completely
I could go on but that will do for now.
Would not you be angry too?
You may have nticed I dont enter the hate comments vomited from both sides onthese boards. That is not conducive to anything and if you have read my posts I have appealed to the moderator about excesses on both sides from these fanatics.
Respectuosamente,
El Uruguayo
“Al pasito por las piedras, cuidado con los juanetes……….............”
1) The bridge has been open for almost 1½ years now….
2) Of course Argentina refuses to release the figures, we pollute an awful lot and it is a scandal, a disgrace and some heads should roll….
3) Uruguay should NOT be the refuge of Argentinean tax evaders anymore.
4) 95% of those Uruguayan “Exports” to Argentina are Chinese products using the Uruguayan Loophole” to enter Mercosur. You know it…………, I know it.
And………………………..To sincerely answer your question:
No, I would not be angry too……
Not about such small problems between neighbor Countries that can be and are being corrected by peaceful and productive cooperation.
PS:
You write ...:Respectuosamente, with a C
Are you an Anglo-Yoruga by any chance?
(That would somehow explain your bias about the Malvinas question)
Look if we are going to quibble about small typos rather than talk about the important issues we have been discussing, thats your priveledge and there is nothing more to be said
Chubut You raise some important points but before I reply we must agree to stop trying to score cheap points off each other and discuss matters in a civilized adult manner. Agreed?
I have previously identified myself, in all my “Think” anonymity, as an Argentinean born man of Scandinavian ancestry with social-democratic convictions and an earnest engagement with Latin-America…
What’s wrong in asking you, in all your “redpoll” anonymity, about the same………
Chubut
Cheap points. you know exactly what I meant. I myself have myself been guilty of it but as a put down against some of the idiots on both sides who post on these boards. Ok your ancestors were Scandahovian.Does it matter? Yes of course but you are today an Argentine.My forbears are
Scots who arrived in the River Plate in 1816, but I am Uruguayan
. Part of the formation of a nation is not to forget your culture and blend it in with the formation of ones new nation. The Welsh Argentines in Patagonia still speak Welsh,the Irish Argentines celebrate St Patricks day and there are gaiteros escoseses y gallegos. Whats wrong with that?
Nothing wrong at all in “Not forgeting your culture and blending it in with the formation of ones new Nation.”
Where things go wrong is when ”Some People” want to have their cake and eat it too ….
In the specific case of some British landlords in Patagonia….:
1) Not paying any taxes and criticizing the Nation for being a total mess...
2) Abusing and underpaying their workers whilst accusing “la negrada” of laziness...
3) Calling the military in when the going gets tough... (http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patagonia_rebelde)
4) Constantly whining about their economic hardships in this uncivilized, shitty Country of Argentina whilst living the sweet life in their Estancias and pisos sobre la Libertador, driving their iconic F100’s 4x4, sending their offspring’s to English Board schools (30,000£ yearly tuition), travelling twice a year to Europe, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc and etc …….
5) Last but not least; moralizing to any poor soul willing to lend them an ear about how much better things would be if THEY were running things the “BRITISH WAY”
The above described situations repeat themselves many other places in Argentina and South-America......................
No offence intended Mr. Red Poll but…………………..., just as an example.
Do you have all your peones en regla?
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Disclaimer & comment rulesExcellent article: j
Jul 19th, 2012 - 10:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0it was time that this was pointed out though I think the consumers are becoming more discriminating in this respect. Cattle and sheep are ruminant animals and do there best on grass,hay or a cereal ration to finish. The feeding of hormones is indefensible as is feeding ruminants on reprocessed brains of old sheep and indiscriminate vaccination with the results in the human population down the food chain that the article refers to
(1)Red Poll
Jul 20th, 2012 - 03:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0Excellent article indeed.....
Just a question to an Oriental farmer.....
What's your opinion/position on GM rice?
What's your opinion/position on GMO's in general.
WEll Think. I think its rather like two porcupines about to mate : proceed but with extreme caution
Jul 20th, 2012 - 01:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(3) Red Poll
Jul 20th, 2012 - 03:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Is that your Yoruga farmer’s way to say that you go all in for GMO as long as the official certificates are in order and you will not be made personally accountable?
Let me rephrase the question……:
What do think of the idea of “branding” the name URUGUAY as a premium GMO & chemical free, sustainable and ethical food producer?
Well we already have a slogan Uruguay natural There is already a program in place whereby farmers are certificated as using no herbicides and no chemical fertilizers. In the case of meat the frigorificos pay a premium on beef produced under these conditions so its good business. As every animal is electronically tagged and registered with the MGAP every animal cut can be traced from birth until it ends up on the supmarket shelves. Our Ministry figures are regularly audited by our international customers and are believed and thats why we get a higher price than even the Australians for our beef.
Jul 20th, 2012 - 04:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I dont want to enter into a slanging match with our Argentine cousins(?)but their Mistry of Agriculture figures are not really trusted internationally. If you want chapter and verse on that and specific instances I can give them but really its Argentinas problem, not Uruguay´s
(5) Red Poll
Jul 20th, 2012 - 05:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well…..
At least you can see that it’s good business………….
Hope that Uruguay goes further on the right path and that a stamp saying “URUGUAY” becomes an internationally recognized symbol of quality foods.
Eventually it would be nice if Argentina followed the example of our little brother. (No question mark).
Tell me something, botija…
Why are you so angry at us?.....
I can’t help noticing that you use nearly every one of your comments to throw a balde de bosta at us…..
Respetuosamente
El Think
Chubut, Argentina.
Chubut, Buen día.
Jul 20th, 2012 - 06:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well you people in Patgonia have a prime opportunity as you are totally free of aftosa. I say, go for it! Price of wool doesnt look too bad either and you are good at that.
I dont thrown un balde de bosta at Argentines in general, but it is directed at your government
Why are we angry? Because your govt bullies us. Blocking the international bridges for four years.
Refusal by the Argentine authorites to release the pollution figures on the Rio Uruguay in accordance with the ICJ judgement.
Sniffer dogs to make sure no Argentines take any dollars on holiday to Uruguay.
Arbitrary restrictions on Uruguays exports to Argentina in contravention of the Mercosur which has thrown 10.000 people out of work.
As a concession from RA we get a toy train from nowhere in particular to Paso de Los toros (nowhere at alL) which only reached its detination once and was received by Cristina and Pepe con bombas y platillos and now has been suspended completely
I could go on but that will do for now.
Would not you be angry too?
You may have nticed I dont enter the hate comments vomited from both sides onthese boards. That is not conducive to anything and if you have read my posts I have appealed to the moderator about excesses on both sides from these fanatics.
Respectuosamente,
El Uruguayo
(7) Estimado Mr. Red Poll
Jul 20th, 2012 - 09:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Al pasito por las piedras, cuidado con los juanetes……….............”
1) The bridge has been open for almost 1½ years now….
2) Of course Argentina refuses to release the figures, we pollute an awful lot and it is a scandal, a disgrace and some heads should roll….
3) Uruguay should NOT be the refuge of Argentinean tax evaders anymore.
4) 95% of those Uruguayan “Exports” to Argentina are Chinese products using the Uruguayan Loophole” to enter Mercosur. You know it…………, I know it.
And………………………..To sincerely answer your question:
No, I would not be angry too……
Not about such small problems between neighbor Countries that can be and are being corrected by peaceful and productive cooperation.
PS:
You write ...:Respectuosamente, with a C
Are you an Anglo-Yoruga by any chance?
(That would somehow explain your bias about the Malvinas question)
Look if we are going to quibble about small typos rather than talk about the important issues we have been discussing, thats your priveledge and there is nothing more to be said
Jul 20th, 2012 - 11:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(9) Red Poll
Jul 21st, 2012 - 04:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0Thin skinned, aren’t we?
I just pointed out a very common Anglo oversight when typing the Spanish word “Respeto”…
As I said in my post (7), you being Anglo-Uruguayan would somehow explain your position in the Malvinas Issue.
Lets face it………..
Anglos are one of the less integrable (let alone assimilable) people in the World….
A good example of it is Mr. Tim, a grown up, intelligent sixth or seventh generation British-Argentinean poster at MercoPress.
Sixth or seventh generation British-Argentinean…………….
But when he writes “US” he means the British.
And when he writes “THEM” he means the Argies. (Including me)
Just sorting out where people’s allegiances are; not quibbling about some typo!
Yours
El Think
(First generation Argentinean)
Chubut You raise some important points but before I reply we must agree to stop trying to score cheap points off each other and discuss matters in a civilized adult manner. Agreed?
Jul 21st, 2012 - 07:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(11) Redpoll
Jul 21st, 2012 - 08:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And what cheap points am I trying to score?
I have previously identified myself, in all my “Think” anonymity, as an Argentinean born man of Scandinavian ancestry with social-democratic convictions and an earnest engagement with Latin-America…
What’s wrong in asking you, in all your “redpoll” anonymity, about the same………
Chubut
Jul 21st, 2012 - 11:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Cheap points. you know exactly what I meant. I myself have myself been guilty of it but as a put down against some of the idiots on both sides who post on these boards. Ok your ancestors were Scandahovian.Does it matter? Yes of course but you are today an Argentine.My forbears are
Scots who arrived in the River Plate in 1816, but I am Uruguayan
. Part of the formation of a nation is not to forget your culture and blend it in with the formation of ones new nation. The Welsh Argentines in Patagonia still speak Welsh,the Irish Argentines celebrate St Patricks day and there are gaiteros escoseses y gallegos. Whats wrong with that?
(13) Red Poll
Jul 22nd, 2012 - 09:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0Nothing wrong at all in “Not forgeting your culture and blending it in with the formation of ones new Nation.”
Where things go wrong is when ”Some People” want to have their cake and eat it too ….
In the specific case of some British landlords in Patagonia….:
1) Not paying any taxes and criticizing the Nation for being a total mess...
2) Abusing and underpaying their workers whilst accusing “la negrada” of laziness...
3) Calling the military in when the going gets tough... (http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patagonia_rebelde)
4) Constantly whining about their economic hardships in this uncivilized, shitty Country of Argentina whilst living the sweet life in their Estancias and pisos sobre la Libertador, driving their iconic F100’s 4x4, sending their offspring’s to English Board schools (30,000£ yearly tuition), travelling twice a year to Europe, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc and etc …….
5) Last but not least; moralizing to any poor soul willing to lend them an ear about how much better things would be if THEY were running things the “BRITISH WAY”
The above described situations repeat themselves many other places in Argentina and South-America......................
No offence intended Mr. Red Poll but…………………..., just as an example.
Do you have all your peones en regla?
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