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Argentina blasts WTO for its biased and tendentious reports on world trade
The Argentine government, together with Brazil, India and South Africa questioned the inclination, almost bias, of some trade measures elaborated by the World Trade Organization Director General. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rules“The Argentine president ................ expressed satisfaction because the claim was shared by members from BRIC:”
Jul 20th, 2012 - 12:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Did Kirchner produce any evidence of this “shared” opinion?
Hmm she attackes the EU but fails to mention that 12 countries have reported Argentina to the WTO. Including Australia, Korea, US, Israel, Japan, New Zealand, Norway, Mexico, Panama, Switzerland, Thailand, Taiwan and Turkey
Jul 20th, 2012 - 01:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0She has the support of 3 nations.
So if the majority says the sky is orange, it must be orange?
Jul 20th, 2012 - 02:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As I have said all along the WTO is a farce, a way for the EU/US to justify their protectionism, because a “seemingly” independent organization (we know it is bought by those countries) says otherwise.
Argentina FINALLY through years of fighting alone, as the only country with alls to take on the ENTIRE PLANET on trade, has gotten the BRICS to stop being cowards, or at least tepidly so.
That's why the “west” hates Argentina, we stand up to your face.
@ However TTT for the Argentina economy to be sucesful it relies on a trade surplus (as it can not borrow on the open market) the US and EU makes up 21.9% of Argentines export market (worth a total of 18.46 BN USD) so if you want to ”stand up in (their) faces” I would suggest you try and find some one else to export 21.9% of your gross exports to as you may just find this number shrinks and your import capital shrinks.
Jul 20th, 2012 - 03:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@4
Jul 20th, 2012 - 03:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That's a valid point, but if we had to borrow we would still have to use the (as we know by now crime-ridden), European/UK/US banking capital markets, then you would say we coudn't stand up to you either. So better like this, where we don't incur debt, and you will most likely still buy our products as you are weak people and not like your ancestors. Very few people in Europe or the United States will give a second thought of not buying any product because of political squabbles.
This way, we can tell it to your face you are unfair traders, and you can't retaliate immediately through the bond market. Your only solution is through trade, which is a much more lengthy and difficult thing to muster.
@3 “Argentina FINALLY through years of fighting alone, as the only country with alls to take on the ENTIRE PLANET on trade, has gotten the BRICS to stop being cowards, or at least tepidly so.
Jul 20th, 2012 - 03:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That's why the “west” hates Argentina, we stand up to your face.”
How very Argentine, arrogance at it's best, it seems The Arg propaganda tool “ARGENTINA V THE WORLD” is working well.
Not propaganda.. all you dunces from Tokyo to London, Washington to Brasilia, Camberra to Beijing, Mexico City to Madrid, Rome and Berlin fell right into it by launching that WTO claim!!
Jul 20th, 2012 - 03:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Played right into our hands. We outwitted you, sorry.
@5 Argentine cannot borrow money from the banking cpaital markets it was bared in 2001. Argentina has tried to find alternative markets for its products with some sucess from the likes of China. However, China is a similar country to Argentina in that its economic sucess has been built on maintaining a large export market, therefore it would logicaly follow that as chinas economy shrinks it is more conserned with promoting exports not imports. I agree that many Europeans would not be put off by politcal fallings out, however their government are and can remove the decision from its people througth trade restrictions, bans etc. So Argentina has nothing to gain by inflamming the situation. I would also argue that Argentine does have a debt to the IMF and we are currently seeing the larger country starting to try and cut of access to Argentina.
Jul 20th, 2012 - 03:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What Argentina needs (and I hope it gets it) is large scale foreign investment in mineral resource projects (of which Argebtina has a great deal). In an ideal work Argentine would devlope these themselves for the benifit of its people, however it lacks the capital to do so and is therefore relient on foreign companies to assist in this as well. CFK needs to stop playing to the popularist national crowd of Argentines and make decisions which promote investment, foreign business for the advancement of all Argentines. I am not saying their shouldnt be protection measures but in place for the people (of course there should) but these need to be balanced enougth to encourage the investment in the first place. If she did this she could gain investment on more favorable terms and strengthen the country.
In adidtion and althougth you did not do so directly at me (I am a UK citizenand take offence to being called weak) please do not use direct or indirect insults towards me. I have not used them towards you. It only dents your sensible comments and discourages polite and meangiful discussion.
6 Ken Ridge (#)
Jul 20th, 2012 - 04:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“ARGENTINA V THE WORLD”
No Ken, its Argentina, Bolivia, Ecuador, Venezuela, Iran, Angola, Azerbaijan and North Korea versus the rest of the World!!!!!
@3, 5, 7 STFU, shite scum!
Jul 20th, 2012 - 04:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Do I really need to explain why I verbally abuse? Check Conqueror and Chris posts. That's all the justification I need (there are many more of course)
Jul 20th, 2012 - 04:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@11, yes but I dont do I. So, all I ask is that when directly adressing one my arguments please refrain. Also dropping to someone elses level does not help eradicate this problem. Why not stay above it all and let your arguments speak for themselves?
Jul 20th, 2012 - 04:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@7 “Played right into our hands. We outwitted you, sorry.”
Jul 20th, 2012 - 04:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Exactly how do you come to that?? I think one needs to open ones eye's, you're on the brink of a financial & political/social meltdown and you outwitted the world ? Hmmm I think I would rather NOT outwit somebody if that was the result!
There's no stranger folk than Argie folk.
@12
Jul 20th, 2012 - 04:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Two reasons: one, I already tried your way, when I first came here. I was greeted with personal insults and attacks based on my passport. No point in talking quantum theory to a pack of hyenas, it just won't work.
Second, I'm not even interested in debating the econonic matter, or the “problems” in your countries (which is why, as some suggested me to do, I don't go to insult your countries in your newspapers websites). I'm here to simply counterweight the constant insults directed at us, but also this arrogance of how the USA is so much “safer” or Europe and the UK so much less corrupt.
There's been almost a dozen MASS shootings in the USA in the last 72 hours, from universities to suburbs to movie theaters, oh and three men stabbed to death in Los Angeles (just broke). And in Europe and the UK, not a day goes by with new mass corruption in bonds, government statistics, Libor, etc, etc from all EU countries.
So who the heck or any of you to judge US? There is a line between making comments on the goings-on in Argentina which is fair, and crossing that line to become a moralist. When you do cross that line, I'll be there to put anyone in their place.
Simple answer TTT, leave our Islands alone and let the Falkland Islanders live in peace. You are the one's who started the malicous campaign with the “pirates & theives” etc etc etc.
Jul 20th, 2012 - 04:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The fact is you don't like it when we responde tat for tat, so tough titty.
Ver easy counter: most topics here are not even about the Falklands, they are about internal argie current events.
Jul 20th, 2012 - 04:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So for all the moralizing that I should “not bring issues like crime in the US, or economic/banking problems in Europe”, I'm perfectly justified based on the fact that none of you keep your insults limited to the scope of the Falklands, you come to topics like these about internal argentine policy to further your agresssion.
You don't like it when I respond, notice how I don't even go to Falkland Island topics, I'm simply not interested in it.
Tobias, until you appeared on this thread insulting the Yanks about a nasty case of multiple murder, nobody, I repeat NOBODY had insulted Argentina. You appear stir up the Brits and lo and behold along comes Conqueror to fulfill your desires.
Jul 20th, 2012 - 05:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are here only to stir up the rest of the commentators, you really are a CFK troll. You also showed yourself to be a very nasty person with your remarks about the poor deserving what they get from inflation.
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Jul 20th, 2012 - 05:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0https://www.facebook.com/Britain1592
During the last economic crisis it was the middle-class that suffered the most. Only the rich (with their money stored safely out of the country) were in a position to capitalise on the situation.
Jul 20th, 2012 - 05:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As an Argentine who's managed to live in many parts of the world, Argentina is living a complete lie, and worst of all, most of argentinians believe the lie the president is advertising.
Jul 20th, 2012 - 06:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Here's the problem with Argentinians, and I'm ashame to say this but true, they think they're the solution to the world, but in reality, are the problem to many! No wonder my country is where it stands today - a developing nation!!! Sad with all our resources...
@1. Does she really need to produce evidence? The whole world knows developed countries have been protecting their agricultural industry for decades. Its well documented just google it. Frankly Im surprised some people here ignore this.
Jul 20th, 2012 - 06:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@17
Jul 20th, 2012 - 07:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Obviously you woudn't know when they insult Argentines because you sympathize with the insults. I don't blame you, you are just benighted.
50 of one halve a dozen of the other,
Jul 20th, 2012 - 08:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0is this not true,
its a blog,
relax .
TIT
Jul 20th, 2012 - 09:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Don't get so upset. You know as well as we all do that we're only attacking Argentina because of its president's ridiculous stance on the Falklands. Otherwise do you think we'd give a rat's arse about your country? Why would we?
By the way you bullshitting little prick. I read my last two editions of the Economist today and their pages were bursting with absolute condemnation of the UK banking system. You try to hide behind a facade of objectiveness ad credibility but you're as biased as everyone else on here.
Chuckle chuckle
My father of blessed memory(another Irish world traveler),visited Montevideo and Buenos Aires in 1928 and judged them to be the two best cities in the world.
Jul 20th, 2012 - 09:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0what happened?
@25
Jul 21st, 2012 - 12:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0Other cities have people have people who can do well too?
If anything your father's tale should give people pause who think of themselves as “superior” because their current condition they deem as better. You never know what tomorrow may bring, and London could be down the toilet compared to Buenos Aires in 2050.
Chuckle chuckle
Jul 21st, 2012 - 05:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0I have spent fifty years traveling between Dublin,Seattle and London and the changes in the latter two are immense ,Dublin however stays the same.
Jul 21st, 2012 - 07:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0The cat is out of the bag, apparently bin laden wasn't the only person to come up with the same conclusion, I wonder what took Argentina so long since all this bias attitudes are a systematic policy to theft third world natural resources and a meeting place go gather all intended victims.
Jul 21st, 2012 - 05:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0??
Jul 21st, 2012 - 06:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well done Cristina, leading the poor world against the systematic, anti-developmental bias of the developed world. She never fails to impress =)
Jul 23rd, 2012 - 01:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#17 If he said that about the poor, I think it shows he's not a Cristina supporter as no Cristinista would attack the poor like that
Nobody forced Argentina to join the WTO, nor is forcing them to stay in it.
Jul 24th, 2012 - 05:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina is simply expected to abide by the agreements it freely signed. Presumably because they saw benefit in joining under those terms.
Even under the current trade system Argentina should be a wealthy country, the fact it is not has more to do with Argentina than terms of trade or subsidies elsewhere.
Doesn’t matter much what you do with the trade system if you can’t fix Argentina first.
What's the WTO saying about Libya, Afghanistan, Iraq, syria or Palestine, I am sure they must be saying something, or does the WTO hate Muslims so much that they rather fuel political oppression and corruption then speaking for the muslim majority???
Jul 24th, 2012 - 08:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The rest of the world blasts Argentina for its deluded and tendentious whining.
Jul 25th, 2012 - 08:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0@33 Pirat-Hunter
Jul 25th, 2012 - 05:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Obviously there are no unfair import restrictions, imposed by any combatant, on the imports of munitions to the countries concerned.
What do you expect the world TRADE organisation to say about the views of the “Muslim majority???.
Try the UN or Arab League.
Dikchead.
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