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Argentines inflation expectations for the next 12 months in July climbed to 35.7%
Argentines inflation expectation for the next twelve months climbed in July to 35.7% from 34.9% in June according to the latest report form the Di Tella University Finance research centre (UTDT). Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesmeans that 1 paso you have saved all your life for retirement is now worth 0.63 paso. well done Argentina! and yes i am being sarcastic
Jul 20th, 2012 - 08:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0@1 That's only one year from now - for every 100,000 pesos someone has saved, in 10 years time that will be worth the equivalent of 4,300 pesos at the expected inflation rate. Inflation is a terrible thing for an economy, unfortunately for Argentina it seems that its wounds are mostly self-inflicted and that there is no change of economic direction coming any time soon.
Jul 20th, 2012 - 08:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0Having beaten Venezuela to the top spot for inflation in South America, I can see that she is not just trying to consolidate top position but actually trying to pull away from the chasing pack. Impressive work indeed CFK. This is a big statement of intent. Keep it up.
Jul 20th, 2012 - 10:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0CFK's economic model continues apace. Unfortunately for the people of Argentina this model is flawed and based on wishful thinking rather than oaky nouns principles.
Jul 20th, 2012 - 11:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0As to how much longer the people put up with this is anyone's business, but every day brings CFK's tenuous grip on Agentina closer to ending.
@4 What's wrong with her economic model? Is she not making lots of money? I thought her “economic model” was an old one. “What's yours is mine, and what's mine is my own!”
Jul 20th, 2012 - 11:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0@5 Conqueror
Jul 20th, 2012 - 11:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0True, it works very well for the 'Dear Leader' CFK and her minions, but if you're a peasant well it's 'let them eat cake!'
MI6 must be proud, Agent Cristina sure is doing a good job of destroying the Argentine economy. Keep up the good work Cristina.
Jul 20th, 2012 - 11:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0How on earth did Argentina reach such a sorry state?
Jul 20th, 2012 - 11:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0It seems as if it is back to the days of the military junta during LA GUERRA SUCIA. CFK will soon have her exit.
What awful news for the poor Argentinian people.
Jul 20th, 2012 - 12:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh well never mind, perhaps they'll revert back to facism.
8 Ozgood
Jul 20th, 2012 - 01:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think we should try and put aside the pharse “dirty war”. I completely understand the sentiment in English but it wasn't a war. More of a genocide really (although it can't be called that legally for UN reasons).
That is a huge increase but not at all surprising. I actually think it is a lagging index that will end up being MUCH higher by the end of the year.
Jul 20th, 2012 - 01:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Not a suprise that this news comea t the same time as CFK is boosting her standing with the milatry, sending police to Santa Cruz to prevent riots and using AFIP as a politcal party tool.
Jul 20th, 2012 - 01:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why can she not admit hers and her husbands “economic model” has been a complete and utter failure and is destryoing one of the worlds rescource rich nations. Even if we take this figure with a pinch of salt and say take a middle ground betwen offical and unoofical this would still be a inflation rate of 22.8% which is huge. In 6 months the Argentine national bank will be printing pesos like mad to keep up with the inflation rate and to stimulate growth in its failing economy. Hyperinflation here we come.
Maybe CFK should stop giving speaches in front of Eva Person and use Isabella Person instead, they have far more in common
If she succeeds, that’s good news for the Argentineans,
Jul 20th, 2012 - 02:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If she fails,
We can all wave her goodbye, as she cries past us ..
Horrible thought, Isabel Perón ushered in the last military government, please God don't let Kretina bring in another one!!!!!
Jul 20th, 2012 - 02:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@14
Jul 20th, 2012 - 02:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I was refering more to Isabel Person distroying the economy by failing to tackle inflation, but who knows what she is capable of. I hope to god as well this will not happen. I think it would be unlickely given the poor strength of the Argetnine milatry.
15 EnginnerAbroad (#)
Jul 20th, 2012 - 02:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I don't think that the military would have a great deal of difficulty dealing with Fat Máximo and his La Campora thugs. Quebracho might be a little tougher but the milicos have guns and the thugs mostly don't.
Anyway lets hope it won't come to that!!!
The government is giving more cahs to BA province:
Jul 20th, 2012 - 02:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0”On Thursday, Economy Minister Hernan Lorenzino said the federal government would send another 600 million pesos ($132 million) in financial aid to Buenos Aires province and allow the province to issue a 900 million peso bond, backed by revenue from a national tax-sharing scheme, to pay debts to providers”
http://in.reuters.com/article/2012/07/19/argentina-province-debt-idINL2E8IJL2N20120719
Given that this is not from government official sources, it is probably a lie.
17 Welsh Wizard (#)
Jul 20th, 2012 - 02:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Note that “”The president has resolved ... to tend to the situation of state workers in the province and the provision of essential services on the part of the provincial government,“ Lorenzino said.”
I think she's trying to gain a little political capital from this, but it probably won't work as Scioli has a very good acceptance in the Province of Bs. As.
@18
Jul 20th, 2012 - 02:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ha ha. I thought exactly the same thing as you. she wouldn't give the money a month ago so it was all “f*ck the workers and their pay, your problem not mine”. Now she is the benevolent leader wanting to print as much cash as possible so that the workers can get a lump sum which will devalue by c.30% by this time next year. She truly is on the side of the little man...
@18 and 19 this whole issue between CFK and Scioli is a political power play within the Peronist party. CFK is attempting to discredit Scioli as a potnetial presidential candiate at the next election. Intrestingy article from BsAs hearld.
Jul 20th, 2012 - 02:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/106176/the-silence-of-the-lambasted
@11
Jul 20th, 2012 - 02:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.foxnews.com/
http://www.foxnews.com/
And then you dare criticize Argentina's petty crime problems... How many shootings last 48 hours?? TEN??? Like 20+ dead and probably 100 injured. Shootings at universities (normal), offices (normal), random, and now even in MOVIE THEATERS.
What a hllhole
And in other news, the UK's crime rate is currently at historic lows. Anyway, TTT back to the subject. where do you think inflation will be in 6 months and, furthermore, in 12 months?
Jul 20th, 2012 - 02:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 021 - What type of comment is this? I did not read anything in this article about crime in the United States. In fact, it does not even get into crime in Argentina.
Jul 20th, 2012 - 02:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 021 Truth_Telling_Troll (#)
Jul 20th, 2012 - 02:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Tobias, this thread has nothing to do with shootings anywhere, it is about a Di Tella University report on expected inflation.
As far as I can see no one has attacked Argentina, no one has slagged us, so WTF are you commenting on a very nasty case in the States?
@22
Jul 20th, 2012 - 02:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If that is true, that is because in the UK one no longer needs to be a blue collar thief. Totally legal to rob the population blind from nice cushy bank offices. Basically the UK economic model the last 10 years.
Another joke of a country, can't control some stupid banks who rob you and do it again and again and again.
25 Truth_Telling_Troll
Jul 20th, 2012 - 02:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Again Tobias, WTF has this thread to do with robbery? Unless you deem inflation to be robbery, whic is fairly close to the truth!!!!
@25 yet in other news UK inflation rate is down to 2.4%. Even we couldnt control the banks (Funnily Europe has the most stringintent controls on banks anywhere) our government can control the overal economy and actualy has the capital it required to bail out banks and prevent a full blown collapse. What Capital with CFK use when the banks go pop due to a mass run on depsoits? I am not saying Europe and UK have not made mistakes in the economy and banking regulation but what we are talking about is degress of stupidity. I would argue it is far more stupid to do nothing about rising inflation espeicaly when growth is shrinking and a recision is looming.
Jul 20th, 2012 - 03:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nope, it is based on independent stats which aren't controlled by the governmnet. Anyway, please answer my questions...
Jul 20th, 2012 - 03:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Inflation is a robbery, but not in Argentina's case. Inflation only affects the 3o-40% who depend on state salaries or goverment assistance. Who are those 30-40%? The same losers that voted for CFK's inflation model.
Jul 20th, 2012 - 03:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Those of us with actual education, with business, with land that grow commodities, or those that do tourism, can adjust prices quite easily, and salaries too, since they depend on the private sector and international prices, not government dictums.
The only people hurt long term by inflation are the poor, and they deserve it. If you are stupid, you deserve stupidity in return.
@29 Not sure why you just told me how inflation works...So what are your predictions then?
Jul 20th, 2012 - 03:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@14 Yes Simon I had thought about that as history has a nasty habit of repeating itself if the lesson hasnt been learnt.
Jul 20th, 2012 - 03:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well one thing we dont want it accept the export of Argentine inflation to nieghbouring countries but she will then complain a) to the WTO for unfair trade practices and b) to the Mercosur that the banning of of free passage of goods and disservices is contrary to the Treaty of Asuncion!
29 Truth_Telling_Troll
Jul 20th, 2012 - 03:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“The only people hurt long term by inflation are the poor, and they deserve it.”
You have just lost any respect I might have had for you!!!!!
That is probably the most disgusting statement I have ever read.
If you really mean what you write, Tobias, you are the ultimate in heartlessness, the military Junta is a “nene de pecho” beside you.
The poor in Argetina aren't poor from choice, they are impoverished by 70 years of bad government and cruel exploitation by the political class in this country. They sufferfrom lack of education because the Governments over the last 70 years find it convenient to have a semi illiterate lower class to buy votes from.
Tobias you are a very, very nasty piece of work!!!!!
@29 And if you increase salaries and prices to combat you do what? increase inflation further, this is economic suicide. You can not continually increase inflation without growth. Prices are set by demand i.e. if you set prices so high no one buys it you do not make any money and inflation then affects how much of other producers goods you can buy.
Jul 20th, 2012 - 03:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hsitory shows us that no succesful econmic model has ever survived with high inflation.
More of the tipical bla bla bla, i already forgat about all the expectations that we have for the inflation level. Anyway, i recognize that this is a great news for some people who publish comments here everyday, who are fundamentalists of the hate against c. f. k., those people who just insult her, and who dont have any intellectual honesty.
Jul 20th, 2012 - 03:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In this country, you can find a mountain of indexes, made by those so called private analists and universities, in fact many private analists, who are owners of polls, tell all the time that we are almost like venezuela, and predict economic disasters, but none of their wishes finally happen. However, neather those hipocrites, nor some of the ignorants who publish comments here, and who seem so concerned about the inflation level in this country, tell about the true reasons of this problem, which will take many years to be solved. None of them tell about the huge economic concentration that we have in the most important sectors of the economy, due to the most powerfull corporations abuse of their dominant power, and increase the prices of the products, instead of making enough inverstments. None of them tell either about the lack of financial support to the enterprices, most banks give credicts mostly for craving of goods, but just a few of them give financial support to the enterprices, which is the most important. That's why it was necesary to change the charter of the central bank . All your so loved private analists just blame c. f. k and guillermo moreno, and recommend to lower the public expenditures, and to go back to the i. m. f. Anyway, the worst of this situation aren't the mediocre and hipocrite analysis of those private analists, many of them are just lobbysts, it's their job. The worst of this situation is that many people believe them, specially some of the ignorants who publish comments here, who buy so easily the analysis of those lobbysts, and who make stupid and ignorant comparisons.
I'm not going to discuss economics with the British. A country whose economy is run by crooks overseen by mobsters. Pathetic really.
Jul 20th, 2012 - 03:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 010 Welsh Wizard (#)
Jul 20th, 2012 - 03:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think that the military believed that they were waging a war against communism.
I love the expression
A CADA PUERCO LLEGA SU SAN MARTIN
@35
Jul 20th, 2012 - 03:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No that would make for a sensible, meangiful and intelligant debate wouldnt it. I would hypothise you dont want to discuss if because you have no intelligant arguments to put on the table and will continue with your insults to try and make a point which only strengths the counter argument.
@34 I see very little in the way of insults towards CFK on here (in fact the only reall insults are comming from TTT). What I see is people discussing the situtation and putting forward economic arguments to show how CFK has lost control of the economy and does not seem to understand the dangers of inflation. Im not saying people do not isnult her on these boards but to try and argue your point by impling everyone on here has a vendette is, im afriad, a very weak counter argument. I agreee their are problems leading to the inflation in Argentina and that it will take a long time to solve, however CFK does not appear to be doing anything to solve the issue (how can she when she instructs the national INDECS to publich false values). Unfortuantly for Argentine the majority of the world and its buisness (not just as you seem to suggest “ignorants” on here belive these independent analysists (regardless of their motives) so butting heads with them only hurts Argentines future growth and investment. Argentine could silence these critics, overnight if it published the actual inflation rate. I have stated to you before than foreign banks will not lend money if it feels they will be exposed to high risk for low return as a result, they will pack up their operations and capital and leave the country. International business is all about risk/return balance if there is nor return and high risk shareholders will not allow the companies to continue to trade in those markets or environments. Argntine is a trisk of isolating itself from the international business market which runs the risk of plunging it into deeper financal problems due to lack of capital or borrowing capacity.
@35
Jul 20th, 2012 - 03:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Please see @37
34 axel arg (#)
Jul 20th, 2012 - 03:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your diatribe against the commentators on this thread seems to be pure invective, it does not say anything about the article.
The Di Tella University is predicting a 35.7% inflation rate. This has nothing to do with hating CFK or slagging Argentina, this is a report done by a serious institution that should be taken into account by the government.
If the predicted inflation rate is correct, you salary will be worth almost 3% per month less, in other words you are paying a 3% inflation tax on your salary!!!!!
@21 We all know that living in a sh*thole is normal for you.
Jul 20th, 2012 - 03:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@23 Tit likes to do this. Because he's a Tit. I just wish the majority of latinos would do the world a favour and get on with killing each other.
@25 Tit by name, Tit by nature.
@29 Another “private sector” pillock. “Adjusting” prices and salaries may also be robbery. But then why would you care? Typical nazi. Bet “the poor” can't be part of your “master race”, can they, shite scum? Who did you steal your money from, shite scum? Making lots of money out of other people's misfortune, are you, shite scum? This, incidentally, is your new name. Shite scum. Strangely, it matches up with “SS”. Never change, do you, shite scum?
@32 I'm with you, Simon. But, did you ever have any respect for that piece of stinking slime?
@34 You need to STFU. I read the whole of your comment all the way through. Just in case there was a glimmer of intelligence. There wasn't. But I will congratulate in mentioning one word, as it describes you. The word is “analist”. A tiny modicum of intelligence on your part would have suggested a link between the words “analysis” and “analyst”. As long suspected, you have neither intelligence nor education. You are a time-wasting prat.
@35 Shite scum, you couldn't discuss composting with a dung beetle. Go find yourself a suitable seat. Eight feet long, thin, made of steel and with a sharp end. Then bounce on it!
@39
Jul 20th, 2012 - 04:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Of course you forget to mention that in in the last 4 years prior to 2012, Argentine salaries went up almost 50% compared to those in developed countries, because the nominal peso devaluation of 5% a year was nowhere enough to offset internal wage hikes.
As such, the cost of living in Argentina has stayed the same or increased, but foreign destinations and products have become far cheaper.
I love it how people here claim Argentine salaries have just gone down down when in real terms they are way higher in the international scence which is why the country developed this problem of imports surging past exports.
@41 yes, but wages going up in an attmept to hide the impact of inflation only fuels the inflation higher, i.e. prices then go up to combat and there is a creeping of the whole economy to hyper-inflation.
Jul 20th, 2012 - 04:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is not a scientific process but I can tell yo not all of us working in the Private sector are enjoying these wage hikes, it is mainly only those compnaies either aligned to unions or state employeers. Most professionals do not enjoy this degree of wage icnrease, therefore for me I feel like rising prices in my local vea are taking a larger propertion of mt monthly salary than they were this time next year. Inflatiion can not grow indefentily at some point it will grow so high that the pesos will be massivily devalued vs other internationa currencies and the the goverments will struggle to pay its bill for imports and debt which has to be done in dollars, i.e. it will cost them far more pesos to buy the dollars needed. This will have an effect on the lives of all argentines and I for one do not wish to see this happen.
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“Inflatiion can not grow indefentily at some point it will grow so high that the pesos will be massivily devalued vs other internationa currencies and the the goverments will struggle to pay its bill for imports and debt which has to be done in dollars”
Jul 20th, 2012 - 05:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And when this happens, the treasury notices it's exhausted all of its reserves of foreign currencies and the peso is essentially worthless in currency transactions.
That situation results in either another Argentine default on its sovereign debt and/or a zimbabwe style end to any pretense of an internal economy based on the local currency. Argentina's laws against procurement of US$ will either disappear or just become totally unenforceable when a basket full of high-denomination pesos is worth a basket...
#21
Jul 20th, 2012 - 05:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ever been to the USA for an perod of time?
Cristina wouldn't touch a peso with a ten foot pole. She knows they're worthless and only meant for the peasantry.
Jul 20th, 2012 - 06:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@45 You have a classic case in TTT of someone inculcated with the ideals that will keep Argentines forever well-controlled by their successive hopeless governments. They are brain-washed into thinking they have the greatest country in the world, everyone is envious of them and the whole world is focused solely on undermining Argentina. There is nothing wrong with being proud of one's country and culture but it has to be set against reality and some life experience.
Jul 20th, 2012 - 06:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina has all the potential of a great and successful country if they could but break away from fascist governments, learn some work ethic and make that step where cheating the system becomes socially unacceptable because they are cheating their own neighbours and undermining the growth of their own country.
What is very interesting is the 'I'm alright Jack' attitude and blatant display of how disparate the country still is. As if any part of the country is immune to inflation, economic collaspe and the resultant public unrest. People of Mendoza had some very alarming tales to tell me about the last crisis and you only have to look at the high security on houses to understand how fresh it is in the minds of people who actually lived through it.
I am sticking to my expectation of 9/1 on the pesos and 40% inflation by the end of December.
Jul 20th, 2012 - 06:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@45
Jul 20th, 2012 - 07:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Do I have to? I would be terrified of going to a movie, or walking in a university there. The most appalling part is that the news headlines from the USA say “shooting stuns the nation”.
Stun?? They just had like six other mass shootings since Monday!
Absolutely no one on the planet is stunned another mass gun down of heads happened in that country, they are the only ones. Explains why they never seem to do anything about it.
TTT: I would agree with you on that point but the right to carry guns is in the US constitution and niether you no I can do anything about it. But we should not call the kettle black. There are an awful lot of guns in South America, most of them unlicensed so perhaps something should be done about that too.Its a gun culture too.As a matter of interest and a question to the Falklanders: do your civil police carry revolvers on their hips as a normal practice?
Jul 20th, 2012 - 07:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@50
Jul 20th, 2012 - 07:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Really? Argentina has no such gun culture. Most crimes don't even involve a gun. The only areas where gun are “part” of the culture are the northeast Chaco range areas, and Patagonia.
When was the last time there was a mass shooting in Argentina at a school, a movie place, a university, or an office building? Answer is there's never been.
Ah, you shouldn't be terrified to gain life experiences and travel. I remember taking some Chileans friends to Mendoza and they were scared by the numerous police on every street corners, the armed guards at shop doorways and unnerved by the beggars. But I suspect you would argue that Mendoza is perfectly safe.
Jul 20th, 2012 - 07:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I was recently in a Central American country were 100 murders a week is average and armed muggings the norm. If I heeded the FCO advisory, I would never have travelled there but I know that by far the majority of people are good. I met some amazing people and would have missed out on some magical experiences if I had been too scared to go there.
Man up, the USA is perfectly fine to visit.
37
Jul 20th, 2012 - 07:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0IF i were to decide to visit San Juan City
What would you recommend me to eat what meal and in which restaurants at Sarmiento Street. ?
51....no mass shooting!!!! That's because they can't afford the bullets. Jajajaja
Jul 20th, 2012 - 07:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Come off it troll I make a perfectly reasonable comment and you just attack. How many crimes in BA in the last 24 hours have involved guns? Enlighten me please.
Jul 20th, 2012 - 07:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@52
Jul 20th, 2012 - 07:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Gotcha!
So why do you all try to scare the sh!t out of people about Argentina's crime here on a DAILY BASIS?? Funny isn't it now everyone here is saying I should not be afraid to travel anywhere? When Argentina is actually one of the safer places in the world one could go, outside of Europe, yet all of you here describe the place as a heart-on-your-throat place... typical over-exagerations.
Once again, uncovering how finely hypocritical many of you are.
55
Jul 20th, 2012 - 07:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0no killing.
68 injuries
@55
Jul 20th, 2012 - 07:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's a city of 15 million where all crime is put on the news. In the rest of the Americas only murders are mentioned, not just “someone went to a home and pointed a gun/knife”, which is the case here where all illicit activity is front news and the channels send live-mobile trucks to the scene, even when no one was even touched.
Where is Yankeeboy !
Jul 20th, 2012 - 07:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I dont want to believe he lives in Aurora/Colorado !
@58
Jul 20th, 2012 - 08:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And the other difference is Argentines go out and protest crime, in the USA they've had hundreds of mass shootings thousands of dead and when have you see a nationwide protest, if not to demand action, at least for solidarity?
There is a fine line between “letting the system work” and utter supine unconcern.
What happened to that -- Occupy Wall Street -- movements ?
Jul 20th, 2012 - 08:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Unlimited natural resources, vast available territory, and they still cock everything up. Africans blame the European colonialists for the mess they're in, Argentineans are the European colonialists. Who are they blaming? 3000 other European colonists on the Falkland Islands.
Jul 20th, 2012 - 08:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just don't be so scared you live out your life terrified of leaving your parent's home. You really will miss out on so many experiences.
Jul 20th, 2012 - 08:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Every body, blames everybody else for the states of there countries,
Jul 20th, 2012 - 08:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Mainly because of their own greed and incompetence,
Its your countries, your problems ,
Stop blaming others,
.
37
Jul 20th, 2012 - 08:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'll be waiting your reply, dont let me hunger.
you and i ,after meal lets take a walk in this small city where i do want to see somewhere i think you would like to be my host.
Ah some of these Argentine posters seem to be relishing digging their heads in the sand!
Jul 20th, 2012 - 08:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So we have a article about the chronic inflation destroying the Argentine economy and immediately a rather crude attempt to deflect attention is used to avoid the subject.
The British are crooked! Argentinian's in glass houses and all that...
Mass murders in the US! I see because of course that's related to Argentine inflation....
Meanwhile back on topic seems the walls are well and truly closing in on Cretina now!
What the FF does inflation have to do with the Falkland Islands?
Jul 20th, 2012 - 08:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0First to give a coherent answer gets access to my account.
What is CPI rate in FI ?
Jul 20th, 2012 - 08:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What the FF does inflation have to do with the Falkland Islands?
Jul 20th, 2012 - 08:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0At this moment in time,
Nothing at all,
For the FF Falklands have no inflation,
[ I hope ]
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Is there any person from FI here to tells us what the CPI rate there ?
Jul 20th, 2012 - 08:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@then why people are here commenting? I thought the only reason people insulted and belittled was because the the Falklands situation, so why not follow your own advice so readily given to me about not talking about other topics??
Jul 20th, 2012 - 08:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 071
Jul 20th, 2012 - 08:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0comments are written from US / UK.
Falklands
Jul 20th, 2012 - 08:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Economy and trade
currency: Falkland pound = 10 pence ; in parity with GB pound
annual inflation rate: %
population below poverty line: %
Gross Domestic Product: USD per capita
GNI USD per capita //; - [ppp: ]
GDP growth: %
income: USD per capita
import: USD 17000 per capita //; - export: USD 4200 per capita
trade: USD 14500 per capita //; - or % of GDP
trade partners: GB
human development index: //; - position of the country in the world no.:
female labour force: 43%
unemployment: %
http://www.populstat.info/Americas/falklisg.htm
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73
Jul 20th, 2012 - 09:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I said that : Is there any person from FI here to tell us what the CPI rate there.
I want to ask her/him some consumer brands and their prices
detergent, parfumes, flour...etc...
74 LightThink
Jul 20th, 2012 - 09:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0yes no doubt an islander will give you this information,
as we are in the UK , we know not,
@59
Jul 21st, 2012 - 12:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0And did you hear that one of the killed had survived a mass shooting just weeks before!!! Here's the nauseating piece:
http://www.enstarz.com/articles/4357/20120720/james-holmes-colorado-shooting-victim-gunned-down-had-survived-another-shooting-batman.htm
What a safe country compared to Argentina, no wonder Yankeeboy is terrified of Argentina, and keeps coming back! :|
Truth telling Idiot
Jul 21st, 2012 - 02:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0I have never been robbed in the US. In argentina I have had countless things stolen, been mugged on the street and been the victim in one home invasion by five guys who all incidentally carried guns and claimed to be cops. Stay in normal places in the US and you will be safe, in Argentina no place is safe, especially when you are close to law enforcement, they are the worst. The five who robbed me and took my family hostage spent about three days in jail, the case was thrown out because two of them were actually cops. Once they found out they were cops the story magically disappeared from the newspaper. No gun culture in Argentina I see, what a load of shit and its all coming out of your mouth. I don't go anywhere in that country without a gun which incidentally is very easy for me to legally bring in the country.
You are a loser and a liar, no place is safe?
Jul 21st, 2012 - 02:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0I've never been victim of any crime. Good bye loser.
ttt
Jul 21st, 2012 - 03:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0ouch!!! hurts to be wrong doesn't it. Your only redemption is that you finally spelled loser right. You are the victim of a crime, when your father raped his sister you were the by-product.
Zhivago Notice our pet troll never says sorry or shows remorse for what happened to you. He must have 24 hour protection from his government masters goons perhaps?
Jul 21st, 2012 - 03:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0Remember that what goes around comes around - This is a message for CFK
Jul 21st, 2012 - 06:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0I see that KFC has gone home to Santa Cruz for the first time in a month..... was putting it off because of security concerns but the army is there to look after her now........ ho fucking ho....
Jul 21st, 2012 - 08:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0in US,in the last 30 years the gap between poor and rich have widened.The 1% of US citizens saw their incomes grow by 275 % according to Congressional Budget Office,At the same time bottom 1/5 US citizens only experienced income growth of 18 %...........
Jul 21st, 2012 - 09:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0I am very hopeful Latin Race toward the Revolution not from all other numb ethnic groups who won't do.
@52 Some statistics on crime in argieland are at http://www.nationmaster.com/country/ar-argentina/cri-crime
Jul 21st, 2012 - 11:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0@78 Because you're a criminal? Following your comments regarding how inflation can be averted for you and those like you, certainly seems like you are a criminal. Didn't they used to call people like you, profiteers?
@83 Just to cheer you up, if a latino had just had a shite and you gave him/her a piece of soft paper, he/she wouldn't know what to do with it!
Truth Telling Tinkerbell
Jul 21st, 2012 - 12:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No crimes like mass murder in Argentina?! What would you call the mass murder of 30,000 of your own citizens by your own government? Sure, you haven't yet become as prolific as the Germans, Russians or Turks but keep trying, you'll get there. Instead of priests and nuns next time try adding some mentally handicapped people to the line when they are being tossed out of planes. Nobody outside of Argentina is buying your little pity party and your holier than thou attitude is ridiculous when you can only back it up with childish taunts forced into your head by constant indoctrination. And you wonder why the Falklanders want nothing to do with you!
84 Conqueror
Jul 21st, 2012 - 12:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think these numbers have been 'prepared' by INDEC, they are laughably low when compared to similar data on Uruguay (different groups in some instances but both show totals).
You might think these numbers are prepared by INDEC
Jul 21st, 2012 - 01:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0in miserable USA :
FOOD STAMP participation ~ 50 millions people
FOOD STAMP participation rate ~ 15 %
I am very hopeful Latin Race toward the Revolution not from other inept,numb ethnic groups who won't do.
@85
Jul 21st, 2012 - 01:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0hahahaha, yes lets bring up history again. These lamentable microcephalic brits, then they cry when we play the history “card” (because their history is humiliating and embarrassingly subhuman, most of you can't take it).
88 TTT
Jul 21st, 2012 - 01:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Tinkerbell, wake up before you post. Why can't you take it? Be a man for Christ's sake. You made the comment about Argentina not having a history of mass murder. I merely pointed out a time in history that you had conveniently forgotten about when you made the comment. What was the name of that prison in Southern Buenos Aires Province where they had riots and the leaders of the revolt killed about twenty people? Afterwards they ground up their bodies and made empanadas out of them to feed the prison population, I can't remember the name of the prison, maybe the leaders were of British descent, I don't know. BTW, I 'm not a Brit! (or Swedish)
#49
Jul 21st, 2012 - 01:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You should slide out of your cave,one time anyway. It gives credibility to your critical if not hollowed thinking of the USA. 6 mass shootings in the USA sine Monday huh........kfc news broadcast I bet. Must make you excited.
What do you suggest we do about this problem, that you think only happens here?
@88 Would you like to bring up argieland's 1493 claim to the Islands based on a discredited papal bull disowned by the current papacy? How about the 1820 claim “exercised” by a pirate, and therefore illegal. Perhaps you'd like to mention the commercial operation authorised by Britain when a rebellious Spanish colony in LatAm illegally proclaimed a crook to be “governor” on their behalf? How about the 1850 treaty that stated “perfect friendship”? Or the 1866 speech of the argie vice-president that only mentioned one dispute. The compensation owed by argieland to English citizens. But WE did make a mistake. In 1833, WE shouldn't have left anything non-British alive!
Jul 21st, 2012 - 02:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@89 Of course argieland has a history of mass murder. Search around and you will find TiT's statement that there are no Amerindians in argieland. Indicating that TiT's forebears murdered the lot. Who is currently responsible? TiT and his ilk, of course. AND he wants to maintain his elitist position. Thus he has a new name. Shite scum. Message for “the poor” and disadvantaged of argieland. Find this piece of slimy shite scum. Give him what he deserves!
Conqueror(#)
Jul 21st, 2012 - 04:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Some aspects of British colonial policy is nothing to be proud of neither is the behaviour of the Argentinians. Your Dr (now Lord) David Owen authorised the sale of GBP 45 million of arms to the abhorrent military junta in 1979 - this was of course the Wilson Labour Government. These same arms were probably used against the UK during the Falklands/Malvinas conflict in 1982.
This was fine because it involved white on white violence. On the other hand HM Government rewarded Robert Mugabe with a knighthood and “forgot” about the massacres his North Korean 5th brigade perpetrated in Matabiele land. I could go on but it's not worth the effort
51 Truth_Telling_Troll
Jul 21st, 2012 - 04:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Tuesday 28th September 2004, Instituto Nº2 “Islas Malvinas” de Carmen de Patagones, Buenos Aires.
A teenager (15 years old) killed 3 of his classmates and injured 5 others with his father's pistol. His father is a coast guard.
85
Jul 21st, 2012 - 06:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Turks ?
they are nothing
half of them Russian the other half of them are American collaborators like Arabs...
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87
Revolution ?
need to move fragmentation of USA not revolution !
We'll take back the California and Tejas Republicas
Come gentlemen, it’s about inflation,
Jul 21st, 2012 - 06:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Not crime of the past,
I doubt very much, if there is a country, out there that has not done some bad things in the past,
You cannot condemn the future for the past,
Besides, was it not the Italians that nailed Jesus to the cross?
Russians that palled people to poles for fun,
Mongrels that threw, the dead bodies of infected people over the walls,
The Swiss that collected thousands of teeth, from the victims,
The cavalry that slaughtered thousands of red Indians,
The Mexicans who attack and killed those brave men at the Alamo,
The Spanish who whipped out the inhabitants of south America,
Or the Argies that threw nuns from helicopters,
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Thank god we come from mars,….lolol
Relax its only a blog.
besides whilst you have read this, your infation has increased by 2%
#93
Jul 21st, 2012 - 06:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Let's not forget the police in Argentina that torture and shoot their detainees. So much for innocent until proven guilty.......or is that the USA.
http://world.einnews.com/article/106324203
ENGINNER ABROAD. SIMON68.
Jul 21st, 2012 - 08:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Beyond our ideological differences, this is pretty obvious that many of the people who publish coments here everyday, buy so easily the too partial anlaysis of those so called private analists, just read many of the comments of this article, or those that were published in others articles, that are related to the economic situation in argentina.
I dont deny that the torcuato di tella university is a very prestigious institution, but what it publishes is just an opinion like any other, in fact there are others indexes which are published in the press also every month, which don't coincid with it. what we need to do, is to make an ample analysis about the true reasons of the inflation level in this country, thats' something that those so called private analists who you love reading don't do, instead of blaming only on c. f. k. I dont deny either that all what the government did in order to controll the inflation has been absolutly insufficient, in fact, i explained in my comment 34 why it will take many years to solve this problem.
Anyway, for being honest, i think that allthough we discuss deeply about the reasons of the inflation level, we won't never agree, due to this is evident that we have very different ideologies.
'Verdu told The Associated Press that the problem is nationwide and cannot be blamed on the military junta that ended decades ago. Since Argentina's democracy was restored in 1983, its security forces have killed 3,400 people in custody, “most of them young, poor and dark-skinned,” she said. “It's absolutely an everyday thing in all of Argentina's provinces.” Adolfo Perez Esquivel, a Nobel Peace Prize winner for his work investigating the abuses of the dictatorship, told Radio Salta that abusing suspects is an endemic practice throughout the country's security forces, and that the national government unfortunately limits its human rights policies to what happened between 1976 and 1983.
Jul 22nd, 2012 - 07:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0Read more: http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/article/Argentines-outraged-over-police-interrogation-3722788.php#ixzz21KMuM2SY '
Nice place... nice people.......
29 Truth_Telling_Troll
Jul 22nd, 2012 - 11:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0What a t*sser you are!! You see what happened there? You've just f**ked yourself in public, again. We didn't do or say anything and you f**ked yourself. how? by posting this little gem:-
“The only people hurt long term by inflation are the poor, and they deserve it.”
Ok so now we all know you're a Nazi, a bottom feeding, scum-sucking Nazi.
But wait!! there's more because you then go on to f**k yourself a second time!!! with this little gem:-
“I'm not going to discuss economics with the British. A country whose economy is run by crooks overseen by mobsters. Pathetic really”
transferrance I think............. more a comment on Argentina's leadership than the U.K's.
Not evening worth arguing with people who have never stepped foot and lived in the country they critique. All we have to do is sit back and watch to next twelve months unfold.
Jul 22nd, 2012 - 01:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The history of Argentina's governmental leadership since 1930 speaks for itself.
#94
Go ahead take back California and Texas. We watched you take back the Falklands.
94 NoThink
Jul 22nd, 2012 - 02:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You would be doing the world economy a huge favour by trying to take back California and Texas, nothing gets the economy rolling like a good war. Unfortunately it would only be a prolonged target practice for a few good men and country-wide abuse of waiters, waitresses and chambermaids, not to mention the loss of illegal employment at Taco Bell and Chi-Chi-s. Grow up!
America only has an illegal immigration problem because both dems and repub are afraid to punish the business that hire them and also pay the campaign bills.
Jul 22nd, 2012 - 03:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And 101, why isn't the economy rolling after 11 years in southwest asia and the middle east. 3 dead in my family and I'm a little warred out. I don't particularly feel like giving up anymore family for oil.
102
Jul 22nd, 2012 - 04:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If those businesses didn't hire illegals, most of them would go under.
You are comparing a war for oil with what would be a patriotic war, quite a difference and you know that. As sorry as I am that you lost 3 from your family why would you flaunt such a personal loss in a public forum? You obviously had very little respect for the family you lost and if they were in the military I'm sure they understood what their profession entailed.
Making a statement of fact is far from flaunting ,that I am angry my government abuses the fact that many people of my country are patriotic enough to go to war whenever their government, not country asks. My real problem also lays in the fact all the supporters of these wars have seldom even served in uniform to understand that sacrifice. They thank them by cutting VA medical services, and had facilities like Walter Reed.
Jul 22nd, 2012 - 06:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yeah,I'll lower my head and shut my mouth when you7 commit suicide.
As for business I guess that really justifies not prosecuting businesses for hiring illegals and if that's the case, illegal immigration needs to be removed from the public spotlight as an issue because that is the ONLY fix to it.
I was 11 bravo buddy.......what was your MOS?
The fool Washington elite do need the nescient people like you ( @ 100..101...102..103...104 ) to continue govern.
Jul 22nd, 2012 - 06:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0California/Texas have been under invasion since more than 100 years by foreign military power.I back their separations.
The American Iraq operation was not related oil,no importing oil from there.The US citizens brains can not perceive it why.
mind you, [no disrespect at all]
Jul 22nd, 2012 - 08:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0but having sussieUS in your ranks does not help.
104
Jul 22nd, 2012 - 08:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As you were in 11 Bravo I appreciate the fact that you have been under fire, I find it hard to believe that if the USA was attacked you would not have been first to see action and you would have questioned it. I accept your military expertise but this is an anonymous forum, questioning others' values is easy from atop your horse but as you haven't met the people you are chastising and know nothing about them it makes any post questionable. If your military credentials are not required to post here, why would you bring them up? I have experienced live combat, where, when and for whom is my business.
Your words turned the discussion amigo with
Jul 22nd, 2012 - 10:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“nothing gets the economy rolling like a good war”
And 105
Every foreign policy the USA makes is based on oi. Thinking otherwise is juvenile or your not from the USA. You thing we want a presense, a soild presence be it militarily or politically because we want the three natives to make nice.
And as an added bonus of sounding off, save for a few, everyone here sounds like a politician, pounding their chests with jingoist words of my country is better than yours and almost all have never been to the targets they blast.
And Z, if you don'tlike what I say......do something or crawlback under your rock.
“And Z, if you don'tlike what I say......do something or crawlback under your rock.”
Jul 23rd, 2012 - 02:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0The rest of your post was so intelligent, why did you choose to end it like that?
If the Argentine government says inflation is 9.9% but the Argentine population says it is 36% then shurelee at least one of them is a liar.
Jul 23rd, 2012 - 05:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0My friends in BA tell me when they see prices rising weekly and monthly.....surely that's a fairly high rate of inflation. Some restuarants do not carry entrana anymore because it is too expensive to get
Jul 23rd, 2012 - 10:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0@35
Jul 23rd, 2012 - 10:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0“I'm not going to discuss economics with the British”
Given that your inflation is 10 times higher than that in Britain then maybe you should, you might learn something.
@112 - Westisbest
Jul 23rd, 2012 - 11:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0Priceless comeback! LOL
But we all know that the Malvanistas and Argtards believe that if they keep burying their heads in the sand that all the bad stuff will go away. When the final death throes of the argentine economy occur, they'll look around in confusion and disbelief and say, “Well I didn't see that coming!”
#29 I note you've always said you're not a Cristina supporter, now I see why; no Cristina supporter would say something so heartless about the poor
Jul 23rd, 2012 - 03:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#34 Well said
#46 Is that why she's converted her dollar savings into them then?!
@114 -BK
Jul 23rd, 2012 - 04:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Is that why she's converted her dollar savings into them then?!”
Sure she did. I believe her, honest!
BK - CFK is a politician, she will say anything (like most politicians) to get the vote. Where is her proof? Why hasn't she been on Argentine television showing her adoring public her newly converted Pesos?
Because she didn't change them. She admitted to having US$3 million, but she'll have a hell of a lot more than this squirrelled away overseas.
The inflation in Argentina won't affect the 'Dear Leader' only the poor (low and middle income families). This entire situation has been predicted for a long time, high inflation and a slow down in the economy (recession).
This is not a good place for Argentina to be. The UK went into recession with an inflation rate of 2%, and we are still feeling the sting. 37% may bankrupt Argentina, defaulting won't help as most current (not including the defaulted debts that they still owe) debt is internal, so it will only damage the Argentine economy further.
Soon the 'Dear Leader' will be ordering the printing presses to print more Peso's, but Argetnina is entering Stagflation (high inflation and high unemployment), which will lead to hyperinflation. The Peso soon won't be worth the paper it's printed on.
The 'Dear Leaders' economic model has signed the death knell for the Argentine economy which could take decades to recover from, less time with international assistance, but since Argentina still owes the international community huge sums if money they may be reluctant to pitch in and help, but any financial help will only continue to compound the problem.
@106 briton Jack the Ripper
Jul 23rd, 2012 - 06:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why you continue mentioning SussieUS?
I thought you are finished with me.
You released to me your name, address and phone number, remember?
Is this what an UK “agent” do for a living? Releasing your name, home address and phone to SussieUS?
Go to sleep, old man. Tonight might be your last one!
Any one interested in a chook raffle?
Jul 23rd, 2012 - 09:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0”A raffle will determine which civil servants in a small Argentine town will receive their pay first, due to insufficient funds, its mayor announced Monday.
“We will draw lots to decide the (order) of payment,” said the mayor of Bialet Masse, Gustavo Pueyo, in a broadcast from Buenos Aires private radio station Radio Mitre.”
Mas aqui......
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/international-business/latin-american-business/cash-strapped-argentine-town-pays-employees-by-raffle/article4436451/?
@115
Jul 24th, 2012 - 06:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0clap.
Now, come back to Earth and discuss the facts.
@118 - Tobias
Jul 24th, 2012 - 07:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My feet are always planted firmly othe ground, it's people like you who refuse to accept reality.
But it doesn't really matter to you anyway, does it? I mean it'll only affect all those poor people whom you despise so much.
It must be great for you, Tobias, to be able to look down your nose at the 'peasants' and 'know' that you are so much better than they are. But a word of caution, Tobias, people like you tend to get put against a wall and shot when revolutions occur.
Won't be long now...Stagflation - Hyperinflation - Revolution. Tick-tock, tick-tock.
#76 Last time I looked the murder rate in Argentina was 5.5 per 100,000 compared to 5 per 100,000 in the USA so the US is safer.
Jul 27th, 2012 - 08:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0The UK's rate is now less than 1 per 100,000
The UK has higher reported crime because we tend to report it, our police love statistics and lastly as most people have home insurance as part of thir mortgage terms you have to report a crime to get an insurance payout.
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