Paraguayan president Federico Franco said on Monday that the only coup, if that is the word, was implemented by Mercosur from the moment they left Paraguay out of the decision to incorporate Venezuela as a full member of the group. Read full article
''Meanwhile from Montevideo, Foreign minister Luis Almagro defended the incorporation of Venezuela as Mercosur full member ... who recalled that Venezuela was the first to knock the door, and ... “so if the first to knock the door is rejected, you might create a domino effect which impedes others from entering”.
Comment: What a wholly stupid argument! Translates as whoever knocks on the door first must be let in.
But what if those inside the door already (Paraguay) are silenced from casting a decisive vote Mr Almagro? Any nuggets of stupid arguments for that one?
Dave Edmunds would recommend all prospective entrants to attend a session at Rockfield Studios. It works wonders , and can make even the thinnest-voiced despot to appear statesmanlike.
”the (Paraguayan) government that takes office after the April 2013 elections will have to review the situation and see what steps to follow
Of course that will depend on the composition of the government, I imagine the left will put up a strong challenge to the corrupt oligarchic status quo, question is will this model of democracy” allow them an even playing field?
And so a LatAm version of Anschluss. Will we see the Greater Bolivarian Empire of America? Der Fuhrer was fond of eliminating potential opposition before it could get too dangerous. A LatAm Kristallnacht? Who will eliminate whom? Pepe will be the first to go, of course. A cipher. But who does whom after that? Chavez the god, Dilma the guerrilla or the Wicked Black Widow Witch of the South? We should be looking at who will lead once A, B and V have destroyed each other.
@7 Wonder if outsiders will allow Paraguay to follow its own laws. Mind you, Chavez doesn't know what law is and CFK only complies with those laws that suit her. Or that she's made up.
Judging by the strong support Lugo had during the impeachment, it strikes me that the left hasn't much in the way of a strong challenge in Paraguay. If I were you BK, I would hope for a centre-left government like the one Franco is leading!!!!
I thought Paraguay quited mercosur and joined EU. I could be wrong but Paraguay is only in mercosur to slow down progress rather then participate in the trade block. I am actually glad Venezuela joined us. We wish Paraguay better luck with US and EU, we are all looking forward in southamerica to see a better united and stronger block with or without Paraguay since it's now clear that Paraguay intentions is to become an obstacles to the progress of mercosur, maybe mercosur will get the hint and use the evidence to move forward with the complete integration of Venezuela into the block.
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No, its Uruguay not Paraguay.
Italy wanted their Argentine cousins but the rest of the EU led by Spain refused to accept those silly wonka's.
I understand that Uruguay will take Greece's place.
I don't know why Paraguay wants to stay in Mercosur, I wish that Uruguay was not a member, especially now that despot 'Dead Man Walking' Chavez is in charge.
Make no mistake this crackpot will take over and Dillma and The Mad Bitch will be left behind. He has already said it is a political vehicle and he has his chauffeurs cap ready.
#11 facts talk louder then your silly comments. Paraguay is helping US and EU against mercosur block, as a matter of fact it is obvious that Paraguay seem to be more insulted by the unification of mercosur with Venezuela then the suspension of paraguay voting power and membership in mercosur.
#12 I guess that would depend on how many other original mercosur members get taken in by EU and USA as Paraguay did, there is only 3 left.
#13 Paraguay doesn't want to stay in mercosur the only interest paraguay has in mercosur is to slow down the progress of mercosur or to become an obstacles to the intended function of mercosur, Paraguay suspension from mercosur is the best thing to happen to the block this year, since thanks to Paraguay nothing else was done.
#15 whatever!! Starting with Paraguay right?? Lol wait, wait let mercosur help you crush paraguay, done! easy wasn't it? Paraguay will not be obstructing anyone any time soon and we invite them to come sit as an observer, maybe Venezuela will vote to allow for Paraguay to comeback into mercosur, I guess you are one if those people who hate the shoe in the other foot. Chillax budy.
Sorry, you are the garbage, and I can hear the truck doing the rounds on the other side of the block... it will turn to your street any time. Goodbye UK then... (hello Wales and Scotland)
The Mercosur hypocrisy over Paraguay is breathtaking.
Paraguay constitutionally removes its president, but leaders of despotic undemocratic shitholes like Venezuela, Cuba, Nicaragua and Argentina then have the audacity to call it a coup.
Paraguay has nothing to learn about democracy from any of these backward countries.
#19 great and for that reason we invite Paraguay go join EU or sit quietly in mercury, simple no crying needed. We like Cuba and Venezuela they send doctors and help not weapons for terrorists and loans for murderers. Good try play again. How are things in lybia and syria did UK, USA and France murder al, the muslim yet. What the problem with Chavez.
I think that Cuba and Venezuela are not model to follow, the both countries have terrible social, politic and economics problems, they are not democratic really, they closing the press, and if you think different you are under arrest, this vicious are going to infect to the Mercosur and in a few years the mercosur is going to dead
Paraguay is a bit like South Ossetia - a little ex-Georgian Oblast landlocked and between the giants Georgia and Russia.
[ In 2008 Russia 'liberated' South Ossetia from Georgia, making it a 'free' state peopled by Russian troops. It is recognised as 'free' by Russia, Nicaragua, Venezuela, Nauru, and Tuvalu.]
Paraguay could never be an EU member (this was, of course, a joke).
Its options within the Southern Cone are limited, being on the 'Mercosur' side of the Andes.
It has a long memory and, though it suffered at its own hands under Lopez, it suffered much more at the hands of the Triple Alliance.
A true genocide which largely killed off the males of the country, and a land annexation by - especially - Brasil and Argentina, of some 15,000 square kilometres.
I guess Paraguay does not want to be steamrollered again by a military Mercosur alliance (Chavez's words) that now includes Venezuela.
South Ossetia has shown that the rest of the world would not intervene.
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Disclaimer & comment rules''Meanwhile from Montevideo, Foreign minister Luis Almagro defended the incorporation of Venezuela as Mercosur full member ... who recalled that Venezuela was the first to knock the door, and ... “so if the first to knock the door is rejected, you might create a domino effect which impedes others from entering”.
Jul 24th, 2012 - 10:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0Comment: What a wholly stupid argument! Translates as whoever knocks on the door first must be let in.
But what if those inside the door already (Paraguay) are silenced from casting a decisive vote Mr Almagro? Any nuggets of stupid arguments for that one?
The Falklanders should have knocked on the door under that criteria. Would have been a hoot as we all know they would have been rejected.
Jul 24th, 2012 - 10:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0Maybe Kim Jong Un should try out his door knocking skills.
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Jul 24th, 2012 - 10:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0I hear you knocking, but you can't come in
Dave Edmunds would recommend all prospective entrants to attend a session at Rockfield Studios. It works wonders , and can make even the thinnest-voiced despot to appear statesmanlike.
Hate to go off topic but do any posters ever read Russia Today?
Jul 24th, 2012 - 11:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0The comments section on there make even the most rabid malvinistas seem perfectly sane and credible.
It's been a bit dull round here since CFK got bored of ranting about the Falklands.
I don't think she is bored..... more likely preoccupied/ packing bags/booking a holiday package.........
Jul 24th, 2012 - 11:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0I'm guessing she may have finally realised that the past six months have got her nowhere so another six months would be futile.
Jul 24th, 2012 - 11:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0”the (Paraguayan) government that takes office after the April 2013 elections will have to review the situation and see what steps to follow
Jul 24th, 2012 - 11:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0Of course that will depend on the composition of the government, I imagine the left will put up a strong challenge to the corrupt oligarchic status quo, question is will this model of democracy” allow them an even playing field?
And so a LatAm version of Anschluss. Will we see the Greater Bolivarian Empire of America? Der Fuhrer was fond of eliminating potential opposition before it could get too dangerous. A LatAm Kristallnacht? Who will eliminate whom? Pepe will be the first to go, of course. A cipher. But who does whom after that? Chavez the god, Dilma the guerrilla or the Wicked Black Widow Witch of the South? We should be looking at who will lead once A, B and V have destroyed each other.
Jul 24th, 2012 - 12:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@7 Wonder if outsiders will allow Paraguay to follow its own laws. Mind you, Chavez doesn't know what law is and CFK only complies with those laws that suit her. Or that she's made up.
7 British_Kirchnerist (#)
Jul 24th, 2012 - 12:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Judging by the strong support Lugo had during the impeachment, it strikes me that the left hasn't much in the way of a strong challenge in Paraguay. If I were you BK, I would hope for a centre-left government like the one Franco is leading!!!!
I thought Paraguay quited mercosur and joined EU. I could be wrong but Paraguay is only in mercosur to slow down progress rather then participate in the trade block. I am actually glad Venezuela joined us. We wish Paraguay better luck with US and EU, we are all looking forward in southamerica to see a better united and stronger block with or without Paraguay since it's now clear that Paraguay intentions is to become an obstacles to the progress of mercosur, maybe mercosur will get the hint and use the evidence to move forward with the complete integration of Venezuela into the block.
Jul 24th, 2012 - 01:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 010
Jul 24th, 2012 - 02:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No, its Uruguay not Paraguay.
Italy wanted their Argentine cousins but the rest of the EU led by Spain refused to accept those silly wonka's.
I understand that Uruguay will take Greece's place.
How long before Morcosur is renamed Greater Venezuela
Jul 24th, 2012 - 02:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I don't know why Paraguay wants to stay in Mercosur, I wish that Uruguay was not a member, especially now that despot 'Dead Man Walking' Chavez is in charge.
Jul 24th, 2012 - 02:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Make no mistake this crackpot will take over and Dillma and The Mad Bitch will be left behind. He has already said it is a political vehicle and he has his chauffeurs cap ready.
#11 facts talk louder then your silly comments. Paraguay is helping US and EU against mercosur block, as a matter of fact it is obvious that Paraguay seem to be more insulted by the unification of mercosur with Venezuela then the suspension of paraguay voting power and membership in mercosur.
Jul 24th, 2012 - 04:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#12 I guess that would depend on how many other original mercosur members get taken in by EU and USA as Paraguay did, there is only 3 left.
#13 Paraguay doesn't want to stay in mercosur the only interest paraguay has in mercosur is to slow down the progress of mercosur or to become an obstacles to the intended function of mercosur, Paraguay suspension from mercosur is the best thing to happen to the block this year, since thanks to Paraguay nothing else was done.
@10 & 14 Pure garbage. Just like argieland. And, like nazi Germany, it will be crushed!
Jul 24th, 2012 - 04:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#15 whatever!! Starting with Paraguay right?? Lol wait, wait let mercosur help you crush paraguay, done! easy wasn't it? Paraguay will not be obstructing anyone any time soon and we invite them to come sit as an observer, maybe Venezuela will vote to allow for Paraguay to comeback into mercosur, I guess you are one if those people who hate the shoe in the other foot. Chillax budy.
Jul 24th, 2012 - 05:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@15
Jul 24th, 2012 - 05:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sorry, you are the garbage, and I can hear the truck doing the rounds on the other side of the block... it will turn to your street any time. Goodbye UK then... (hello Wales and Scotland)
@17
Jul 24th, 2012 - 06:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0dont be daft!... the Scots an Welsh are as british as the English. They would want nothing to do with ya.
The Mercosur hypocrisy over Paraguay is breathtaking.
Jul 25th, 2012 - 09:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0Paraguay constitutionally removes its president, but leaders of despotic undemocratic shitholes like Venezuela, Cuba, Nicaragua and Argentina then have the audacity to call it a coup.
Paraguay has nothing to learn about democracy from any of these backward countries.
#19 great and for that reason we invite Paraguay go join EU or sit quietly in mercury, simple no crying needed. We like Cuba and Venezuela they send doctors and help not weapons for terrorists and loans for murderers. Good try play again. How are things in lybia and syria did UK, USA and France murder al, the muslim yet. What the problem with Chavez.
Jul 26th, 2012 - 12:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0I think that Cuba and Venezuela are not model to follow, the both countries have terrible social, politic and economics problems, they are not democratic really, they closing the press, and if you think different you are under arrest, this vicious are going to infect to the Mercosur and in a few years the mercosur is going to dead
Jul 29th, 2012 - 08:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#21 www.mcclatchydc.com/2009/01/07/59215/venezuela-reinstates-free-home.html
Jul 29th, 2012 - 09:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=32080
Paraguay is a bit like South Ossetia - a little ex-Georgian Oblast landlocked and between the giants Georgia and Russia.
Jul 30th, 2012 - 09:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0[ In 2008 Russia 'liberated' South Ossetia from Georgia, making it a 'free' state peopled by Russian troops. It is recognised as 'free' by Russia, Nicaragua, Venezuela, Nauru, and Tuvalu.]
Paraguay could never be an EU member (this was, of course, a joke).
Its options within the Southern Cone are limited, being on the 'Mercosur' side of the Andes.
It has a long memory and, though it suffered at its own hands under Lopez, it suffered much more at the hands of the Triple Alliance.
A true genocide which largely killed off the males of the country, and a land annexation by - especially - Brasil and Argentina, of some 15,000 square kilometres.
I guess Paraguay does not want to be steamrollered again by a military Mercosur alliance (Chavez's words) that now includes Venezuela.
South Ossetia has shown that the rest of the world would not intervene.
23 GeoffWard2
Jul 30th, 2012 - 12:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Good point.
But would the USA 'intervene' in the same way Russia did? Especially if it could goad Chavez into a shooting war and Romney was President.
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