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UK reaffirms sovereignty over Gibraltar territorial waters following incident with the Guardia Civil
The UK reaffirmed sovereignty over Gibraltar and Gibraltar territorial waters following an incident with the Spanish Guardia Civil which detained two Gibraltar British Nationals in British jurisdiction and transferred them to Spain. Read full article
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Jul 24th, 2012 - 04:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And beginning to sound like CFK and Spain,
We are confident,
Its provocative
Once again, we send the wrong message,
We are weak to weak to defend what is ours,
Send an apache gunship
[No it might offend someone]
Send the royal navy
[Oh no it might be provocative]
Send a sub,
[Oh no, it might be seen as militarising the waters]
Send the RAF,
[Oh no people might complain of the noise]
Send the fxcking army,
[Oh no, it might abuse the rights of the Spanish]
Put simply,
Stop talking and fxcking back it up, or shut up, you’re embarrassing us,
But if it happened in French or American or even Angolan waters,
Boy wouldn’t the Spanish been put in there place,
But we are just a law abiding peaceful nation now, and has no wish to offended our ally,
[But really the truth is]
We have nothing left in the fridge, its either been sold, out of date,
Or put in the bin,]
Shhhhhhhhhh bu don’t t tell anyone,
We don’t want the world to know the conservatives have fxcked it all up,
Just my opinion, just my point .
dont likey,,, dont read
Spain is rapidly going down the plug hole, not only did they need their banks bailing out by the EMF, the country now needs a bail out. It's no coincidence these incidents are beginning to arise. It's deflection, they have learnt from their brethren accross the Atlantic that it plays out well with population after bad news, like the WWF dropping their king as a patron because he is quite partial to shooting Elephants in cold blood. It's all a well rehearsed ploy the Hispanic/Iberians excell in. It may be a better idea to show them for what they are as opposed to using the big stick, for now anyway.
Jul 24th, 2012 - 05:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Gibraltar really should have full independent nation status. They won't do what the UK government suggests they do, which is sort of fair enough.
Jul 24th, 2012 - 06:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@3
Jul 24th, 2012 - 06:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think the gibraltarians should do exactly what they choose to do, they are grown up enough to decide their own future and they have chosen to remain British. It's called self-determination.
@4 B
Jul 24th, 2012 - 07:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That's right. They can decide for themselves.
blah!! blah!! blah!! Too much noise for three thousand illegals on the rock!!
Jul 24th, 2012 - 08:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There are not 3,000 illegal on the rock,
Jul 24th, 2012 - 09:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But there may be 40 million outcast and implants
Languishing in argentina..
And just like the Falklands, the gibraltariens are saddled with a bad and nasty,
Neighbours,
Thank god, that Britain is better than that,
And just ignore the nasty children.
As the Spanish excellent! When you find natural predators such as the British and all their descendants, there is no alternative to the dungeon! Pirates, stop plundering the fish of the Atlantic and the Mediterranean!
Jul 24th, 2012 - 09:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are talking abt the spannish fishing fleets,
Jul 24th, 2012 - 09:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0of course you.
@ 7 It's Easy British .. Go back to your country Pirate ..
Jul 24th, 2012 - 10:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0im in my country,
Jul 24th, 2012 - 10:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0unlike you planters,
the only pirate today,
just happens to be one of you lot,
pot , kettle , black .
It's little wonder that Mr Lidington can only express luke-warm confidence in the UK's position on Gibraltar.
Jul 25th, 2012 - 01:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0For one thing, the UN continues to list Gibraltar as a territory that needs to be decolonised by the UK. Moreover, under international law, a coloniser cannot legally disrupt the territorial integrity of another State by implanting its own population unto the territory it is colonising.
In cases such as these, the inhabitants of the territory have a right to have their ‘interests’ considered but they have no right to unilaterally determine the nationality of the land they live in.
Both the UN and ICJ have confirmed that the principle of territorial integrity complements and constrains the right to self-determination in cases such as Gibraltar.
The UN has repeatedly invited the UK to participate in discussions to achieve the de-colonisation of Gibraltar.
Unfortunately, the UK continues to rely on a discredited interpretation of the principle of self-determination to turn a deaf ear to those requests in a clearly self-serving way.
It is British and will remain British ... get on with running Spain before it collapses financially!
Jul 25th, 2012 - 08:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0l see our old mate, argentine sunshine has crawled out from under the woodwork.
Jul 25th, 2012 - 10:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0Why don't you 40 million squatters in Argentina go back to Spain or ltaly?
The same to you, XAVIERA, go home!
@12 Beetlegoose,
You Argentines are ALL lmplanted, hypocrite! Go home to mother Spain.
@3
Jul 25th, 2012 - 01:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I agree. Independence is the best long-term solution. Gibraltar needs to negotiate with the UK and Spain to get the best deal possible, probably something like Andorra.
@10
The Guardia Civil arrested British citizens in British Gibraltar territorial waters for a non-existent crime. Who are the pirates there?
@12
Betelgeuse/FB/Franco Martinez. Go and find a Diego Garcia blog.
With views like these no wonder that Spain is getting tougher with the Gibraltarians. The car waits are going up from 2 hours to five or more.
Jul 25th, 2012 - 03:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The more that Spain is pushed aside and the more the royal navy comes out into the so called “ territorial waters” the nastier it going to get.
@13 don´t talk to loud but The UK just entered into a recession and with the Olympic games and the fiasco with security the 3000 military wages
as these Olympic games will be the most militancy in world history it will cost a little but who cares even when the average person is poorer in Britain. www.abc.uk/news/education-15242103.
Isolde nice to see you too!! hope your not unemployed.
We should approach this Gibraltarian situation in a sane, sensible, calm and reasonable manner. We are, after all, British. We should just politely approach any Guardia Civil vessel entering British Gibraltar Territorial Waters, get as many of the crew in view as possible and then blow their heads off! Once this has been done, we should attach suitable materials to blow the vessel 5,000 feet into the air. Umbrellas will be required to protect from the thousands of pieces raining from the sky. A “search” will be required so that any piece with a dimension of more than 5 feet has more explosives attached. A chance for experimentation! If a suitable rocket is shoved, firmly, up a Guardia Civil (dead or alive) ar*e and ignited, can it reach 10,000 feet and how many pieces will it come down in?
Jul 25th, 2012 - 05:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@16 In a new move, a 200 mile radius area of “spain” will be declared to be British territory. “Mad” whatever it was called, will be reduced to a “Guernica” look-alike. As a piece of guidance to the cesspit (argieland), 200 miles of Spain can be turned into a wasteland. No change there. It's already a wasteland. How to dissuade Spain. Draft in Gurkhas and start lopping heads. A football tournament. How far can you kick a Spanish head off Gibraltar? Who cares? Just as long as you can kick it and feel the squish!
Conqueror, please.
Jul 25th, 2012 - 09:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Don't be so gruesome.
But l must add that my teenage son loves your posts, the bloodthirsty little grub!
@16 argentine sunshine,
l've had many jobs & been in successful businesses so l no longer have to do paid work.
l think that l work harder now that l'm semi-retired!
And your good self, still living in sunny Spain, l take it?
16,
Jul 25th, 2012 - 09:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You probably don’t remember, but the gates of Gibraltar were shut for decades,
And only opened after the last Spanish omelette fried over,
Again its the Spanish attitude you seem to be forgetting,
They are the bad guys , just like the Argies, bad guys ,
Isoldout
Jul 26th, 2012 - 04:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0Your bias has obviously blinded you to the obvious. Argentina, unlike Gibraltar and the Falklands, is not a colony. Both Gibraltar and the Falklands are listed as territories that still need to be de-colonised by the UK.
@20 Beetlegoose,
Jul 26th, 2012 - 09:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0Who cares what you or Argentina think?
Argentina brutaly conquered Patagonia with much bloodshed.
Ergo: Patagonia is an Argentine colony & Argentina is a colonialist nation. The Argentines living in Patagonia are “implanted”.
lt doesn't matter that they are joined in one piece, that was just handy for you.
Argentina would like to annex more land & would if they thought that they could get away with it.
l would be interested on what basis you base your ridiculous “claims” to South Georgia & British Antarctica.
As for your remarks about the Falklands, WE, NOT YOU, will decide what form of Government that WE, NOT YOU, will have.
lf we want to be a colony, we will & its got nothing to do with you or Argentina.
agreed
Jul 26th, 2012 - 08:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Isoldout
Jul 27th, 2012 - 05:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0Your reference to Argentina's colonial past is simply a red herring designed to obfuscate the issues?
The British also brutally conquered Australia with much bloodshed. They also slaughtered the Tasmanian Aboriginals to the point of extinction. These facts may be true but like your comment about Argentina's colonial past, are completely irrelevant to whether the UK should de-colonise Gibraltar and the Falklands - two existing colonial enclaves listed by the UN.
You're wasting your time wishing that the world should turn a blind eye to the UK's anachronistic attempt to hold on to the last vestiges of its long gone colonial empire.
@23 Beetlegoose,
Jul 27th, 2012 - 08:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0No red herrings, simply fact.
Argentina DID colonise Patagonia with much bloodshed & continues to occupy it.
Argentina is thus a colonial country.
And you have the gall to demand our country & say that it is a colony.
l couldn't care less about the UK's colonial past.
That is not the subject here.
What we are talking about is your colonialist country wants to colonise my country & you will lie, whine & complain to get it.
You don't seem to be able to give me a reason why you think Argentina “owns” South Georgia & British Antarctica.
Remember that “because we want them” is not a good enough reason.
And FYI, I've been told that “beetlegoose” is the way to pronounce Betelgeuse. l used to say be'tel'goo'eese.
So you don't have to try to be a smartass with my name.
Isoldout
Jul 27th, 2012 - 12:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0First of all, I'm not an Argentine. That's just a (wrong) assumption on your part. Secondly, while you may have a right to live in the Falklands, as a colonist living in a colonial enclave, you do not have a legal right to determine the nationality of the land you live in. As previously mentioned, the past status of Argentina or any other now independent nation is irrelevant to the current colonial status of the Falklands.
By the way, I will refer to you by your correct username when you do me the courtesy of referring to me by my correct username. Your claim about correct pronunciation is just another smart-ass, lame excuse and you know it.
@25
Jul 28th, 2012 - 07:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0So I take it that you Argentines' don't have a right to determine your nationality as you are living in a colonial enclave created by European colonialism?
@25Beteljooz,
Jul 28th, 2012 - 09:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well it seems that l was wrong.
lts not beetlegoose, its pronounced beetlejooz.
Encyclopedia Americana 1975 volume 3, page 626.
Stupid name, why not call it Be'tel'gu'eese.
So l guess you'll have to be beetlejuice from now on, smartass.
l couldn't care less whether you're Argentine or not, you've identified with their cause, therefore you are a malvinista & a stupid one at that.
We certainly do have legal & moral rights to be here & we do determine the nationality of OUR land & its got nothing to do with you.
Keep your nose out of our business.
#18 “But l must add that my teenage son loves your posts, the bloodthirsty little grub!”
Aug 01st, 2012 - 08:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Interesting. They are quite comical froma certain point of view...
@28 B_K,
Aug 02nd, 2012 - 09:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0I love kids, the things they come out with.
l have 2 boys & 2 girls.
What about you, B_K.?
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