MercoPress. South Atlantic News Agency
Cristina Fernandez prepares another ‘independence day’ celebration next Friday
Argentina is ready to cancel next Friday a bond issue which was handed out to residents with bank deposits victims of the so called “corralito” (paddock) in 2002 when the collapse of the Argentine economy and financial system. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesWhy is this being portrayed as extraordinary? This is standard operating procedure in most countries. This would not happen in a serious country.
Jul 31st, 2012 - 10:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0Will the UK have to take a “slice” of argieland to get its money back? Which “slice” shall we take? Still looking for something worth having!
Jul 31st, 2012 - 10:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0Hands up if everyone who thinks these people are going to be paid 'back' in Peso's with the one missing and not in US$!
Jul 31st, 2012 - 11:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0By the way, Argentina, you still owe the international community a lot of money, and the longer you take to pay it back the more interest you'll have to pay too. So your international debt keeps rising.
They are actually proud(most) that they actually slide their way out of all those billions of money they were given. They never bitched when it was given to them, but paying back was certainly another story.
Jul 31st, 2012 - 01:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Other news:
Jul 31st, 2012 - 01:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0CFK: 'violence in football has been blown out of proportion with clear political intentions' (BA H)
Since when has political intentions in sport ever been an issue for the two-faced Argentine president, she had no problem when it came to the olympic advert on the Falklands, a taste of your own medicine biatch.
Is this the only country in the world where they celebrate returning money that the same people stole 10 yrs ago?
Jul 31st, 2012 - 02:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This is a small portion of what is really owed. The RG gov't is bankrupt. At some point the citizens will realize it and put a run on the peso.
Anytime now....
#1, #2, #3, #4 Sorry people, will you all mind telling us who'm did
Jul 31st, 2012 - 02:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0IMF give money to?? We can't pay unless we see who's accounts IMF deposited money in and the contracts to account for said money,.simple, good luck with that. We are all looking forward to make everyone accountable as everyone should be.
www.truthinmedia.org/Bulletins2002/2-2.html
www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=26686
@7 I have no idea how to do this in Argentina, but if you live in a serious country it is possible.
Jul 31st, 2012 - 02:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So you accept money, a legal debt and then refuse to pay it back unless you know who's accounts they go to? There goes Argetnina trying to dictate terms with it's head underwater.
Jul 31st, 2012 - 02:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You accepted money and like the deadbeats you are did not pay it back.......period. You did not have to take it but you did and now are El un numero deadbeat borrower of the world. Ypou not only screw your lenders, you steal pensions from your own people. Deadbeats.....all capital letters.
Nice article today about the RG debt if you calculate what is currently due they are bankrupt, they need to use all the reserves and then some to pay just what they owe this year.
Jul 31st, 2012 - 03:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So now what?
Since a good portion of the debt is owed in U$ they will need to keep extracting all U$ from their system,which will bring, lower imports, lower exports, higher inflation, lower peso, higher interest, less investment. Hmm I see a pattern,
Not gonna work tho...
What's the best short term solution CFK has?? Print Print Print.
Hyperinflation
What will come first Patacones or 10/1 peso? Anyone care to guess?
@7 I never get why you bitch on about this all the time. Labour stole all my money, I didn't vote for them and now I'm having to pay that back in higher taxes, it doesn't mean that now we have a new government we can just decide not to pay it back. Grow up.
Jul 31st, 2012 - 03:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yankee where was that article?
Jul 31st, 2012 - 03:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 010 yankeeboy
Jul 31st, 2012 - 03:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 010/1 peso. She won't want any provinces printing patacones as that will instantly remind everyone of 2001. If she keeps on printing I have a feeling that she thinks she'll be able to keep ahead of the inflation curve. I know that this makes no sense buy if you look at RG policy at the moment it is exactly what they are doing (money base 160bn pesos in 2011, now somewhere near 250bn pesos...above a 50% rise in one year). To CKF (politically), patacones would signal to the people that there is a problem, a new one that sits badly in the social consciousness of the people. An increase in inflation is business as usual; it is easier to politically fend off an existing problem...
12. http://www.lanacion.com.ar/1494854-pese-al-pago-del-boden-la-deuda-sigue-teniendo-su-peso
Jul 31st, 2012 - 03:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 013. I think the Provincial Governors will have no choice but to print their own currencies shortly. She is not going to x-fer what she is LEGALLY required to and they will be short Billions of pesos. We'll see soon enough.
If she keeps increasing the money supply like they did this year you are going to need bags of pesos to buy coffee or sugar soon.
@14 That is what i think she'll do. She just wire the cash directly to them to start with, she is already printing like made so will just carry on. For me, patacones is the representation of economic disaster in Argentina. She will want to stay away from that for as long as possible.
Jul 31st, 2012 - 03:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@2
Jul 31st, 2012 - 03:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are welcome to die (again), like 200 years ago.
Yes everyone will want to stay away from it as long as possible but how long can that be?
Jul 31st, 2012 - 03:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In my opinion it will be sooner than she is expecting.
All of the large provinces thought they could get U$ by floating Int'l bonds but it isn't going to happen so they're going to be stuck by Dec when the next bonus payment is due.
We'll see, it isn't long now.
Maybe CFK will take all the bingo parlors and get through the summer.
Then what's left?
#8 if it's legal and truth anything is possible, but if it is all made up and corrupt there will be nothing to show for it,
Jul 31st, 2012 - 04:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0www.truthinmedia.org/Bulletins2002/2-2.html
www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=26686
#9 personally I didn't receive one peny from IMF and if my taxes are going to pay for theft I want to see a accountability.
#10 I wouldn't be counting on any payments any time soon since it was all thefted by IMF corruption dealers. www.truthinmedia.org/Bulletins2002/2-2.html
www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=26686
#11 I didn't say that we won't pay, what I said is, check who received the money on behalf of Argentina and prosecute him. We don't. Have your money, if we did we would be ritch with that kind of money you could buy a lot, show us the recite for the money spent in Argentina we will pay that. Bjtbdeposit gone to Swiss banks will not be payed by Argentine's tax payers. www.truthinmedia.org/Bulletins2002/2-2.html
www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=26686
#12 in his wildest dreams.
#13 patacones will do fine as long as we can buy assado every weekend and eat meat all year round we Argentines will do fine.. As long as we can afford assado nobody is going to noticed the US dollars gone.
#14 you still don't know how many patacones and pesos have to be printed to de-dollarize Argentina, it's a gradual process. We will be printing for years to come. And if coffee and sugar go up good for the industry in Argentina because we produce both.
#15 personally I like pesos being printed and administrated from Argentina central bank but with more legal tender other then US dollars, the economy will be more versatile.
#16 do you think a brit can become good bbq meat?? Or dog food or simply fertilizer?? The answer couldn't be more obvious,
#14 you still don't know how many patacones and pesos have to be printed to de-dollarize Argentina, it's a gradual process. We will be printing for years to come. And if coffee and sugar go up good for the industry in Argentina because we produce both.
Jul 31st, 2012 - 04:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And we civilized folks wonder why Argentina has been a disaster for 70+ yrs and at least another generation. I think I have to re-post this on FB so my friends can laugh.
Good gracious what complete moron!
Whew shockingly ignorant.
#18
Jul 31st, 2012 - 05:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You do not get that choice.....you are a republic democracy. You quote the internet far too often. That's like quoting a comic book.
I am real enough to know the problem in my country but still prefer to live in the USA more than any other country that I've ever seen. You on the other hand blindly and faithfully accept mediocrity for your country.
You can vomit out “kill muslims, woman and child” now that you are off the..“homo, racist and pervent”rant, yet your country is the one that killed it's own people, tortured them, tossed them out of plances over the sea, kidnapped children. Your holier than though attitude is beyond hypocracy.
Every country and people can choice whatever economical resource delivery system they choice to have, I could care less as it is not mine. However, I can also critque the idiots that rack up failure after failure, expropriate privately owned assets....than think private capital with stick around for the good of the cause. And the worst of it, make more and more money of the (you) people that have NOTHING and worse.....no opportunites for advancement in life. Free market businesses are leaving Argentina and South America in stampedes. That's not an anomoly, that's a trending increasing at an increasing rate. Once Argentina nears full pesofication, no business or capital from outside Argentina will remain. I know...I know.....that's that plan.....to self emoliate.
@21
Jul 31st, 2012 - 06:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Really? What planet do you live in? Certainly not in any with oxigen for your brain.
Money is pouring into Chile, Peru, Brazil, Colombia, even Mexico and Uruguay.
In Argentina we don't to be subjugated by loans, foreign business, and debt, so we choose to reject it.
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Jul 31st, 2012 - 06:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Toby, That is odd, if you are “rejecting” foreign investment why was YPF begging in Houston a few weeks ago, CFK begging in NYC about a month ago and a whole slew of RG's begging at the Embassy in DC about 2 months ago?
Jul 31st, 2012 - 06:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You have NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TAKING ABOUT!
You have turned into a brain dead, brain washed RG like the rest of the RG idiots that post here.
Touche' Yankee
Jul 31st, 2012 - 06:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@23
Jul 31st, 2012 - 06:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No one was begging anything, only your brain begging for H20, as well. The USA is about to enter a great depression, you will need every cent you can get.
#25 Though speaking AT you is like talking at a wall:
Jul 31st, 2012 - 06:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(AFP) – May 8, 2012
WASHINGTON — Argentine Vice President Amado Boudou on Tuesday urged US companies to invest in YPF, the state-owned oil company that Argentina recently expropriated from Spain's Repsol.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5ix-JGv1rQTYs4fmI81VSa6GUhuMg?docId=CNG.f06b3f115da0bd54c843b2d1d70de8f8.b01
Let's not forget the Botox Bitch's BJ party with American Oilman when she intruded on the UN.
It is quite apparent you do not understand economic terminology, for if you did you would know “great depression” is an historical event and incapable of occurring again. Increased poverty level (15.% Poverty in the USA is a family of 4 earning less than 24,000 a year), Anemic growth (1.5%) absolutely, high unemployment (8.2%) of course, runaway inflation (1.6%) hardly an afterthought, The Dollar.....still the world standard for international trade......why you ask.....two words.......consistent stabilty. The world still comes to the USA......as much as you hate that thought......true is ture.
Stick that in your hash pipe and choke on it.
Toby, I have been to the RG investors meetings. They beg and embarrass themselves. You have very stupid people representing your country. I have been in meetings where people actually laughed out load at some of the ludicrous statements coming out of their mouths. Laughed, OUT LOUD and the dumb Rg had no idea what was so funny.
Jul 31st, 2012 - 07:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I felt sorry for her.
The look of bewilderment was sad.
Yankee, they lie so often and frenquently to their citizens and say the most ridiculous things that when it comes time to talk to business heads, they can't turn of the flow of rediculi.
Jul 31st, 2012 - 07:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yeah that is what I think too. They are in an echo chamber full of true believers so when they get around people that actually understand business or the economy they make us laugh.
Jul 31st, 2012 - 07:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is sad really most of them don't know the horrible times they have in store in the very near future.
It saddens me.....my wife is Argentine and her family is there. They are not socialist idiots though. It pains them to see there country run into the ground.
Jul 31st, 2012 - 07:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We are not imitating your economic system, get it through your skulls.
Jul 31st, 2012 - 07:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Here's a thought; Why don't you pick one that works?
Jul 31st, 2012 - 07:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Even some form of socialism beats stupidism. You need private industry...period. As greedy as they can be at least I can get ahead with them.
Jul 31st, 2012 - 07:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Here's a thought. Anyone hear about the national rubbish strike? Maybe the trash will pile up on her new independence day.....lol.
Can the Botox Bitch of Buenos Aires expropriate rubbish? She deserves as much as she can get! I think if she really gives one for the gipper, she further decrease the standard of living in Argentina. I wonder if the future for them is a Welfare state of a barter economy?
If you guys can't, considering you view yourselfs as genetically superior humans, what can you expect of us Homo Demisapiens?
Jul 31st, 2012 - 08:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am quite certain neither of the Non-South Americans here consider themselves superior to you South Americans, save perhaps for South American politicians. They are theives who exploit their populace under the premise they are doing good and increase there own wealth. They get rich as they give you pinto beans. Why South Americans want to just get by with handouts and not want the opportunity to do their best is beyond the concepts of sociology. Brazil almost broke free of the mold and moved into the mainstream world. The world that South American hates because they needed money to grow and in order to get money they needed to borrow and they borrow then came time to pay it back.
Jul 31st, 2012 - 08:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 025,000 years ago you would had to have been a hunter, gatherer or dead and I suspect the latter
@35
Jul 31st, 2012 - 08:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argies don't eat rice and beans, that's you Americans and the rest of the Latin Americans. We eat beef and udder.
That's a metaphor want a dictionary?
Jul 31st, 2012 - 08:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 036
Jul 31st, 2012 - 08:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Beef and udder huh? You macho Latinos!
Chuckle chuckle
bla,
Jul 31st, 2012 - 08:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0tell us an udder one, its got meat on it lol.
Actual in Argentina beef is in short supply as the farmers cannot afford to provide it at the price controls in place.
Jul 31st, 2012 - 08:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Like the oil, capped at 42 a barrel and the world wide market is $87, yes Troll 87 US dollars. No company can afford to invest in drilling (especially shale) at 42. And the real pisser is if they increase to market prices, inflation will lift off like Apollo 11 to the moon.
Good old “planned economies”. Perhaps they might work if your degree is not from the back of a matchbox cover.
Hyper-inflation.
Jul 31st, 2012 - 09:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Poor Toby you can see he is dejected, faced with stagflation, hyperinflation then a generation of depression. Over the past few months he realized he'll be stuck in Mendoza begging for books written in English because he can't afford internet in 2013.
Jul 31st, 2012 - 09:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I personally can't wait for 2013, when Europe and the USA melt down completely, I will miss the hatred here, I'll keep an eye on the news as your countries fully disintegrate for at least 10 years to come.
Jul 31st, 2012 - 09:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 043
Jul 31st, 2012 - 09:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0LMFAO!
Maybe you can send us beef packages. Export quality though please; not that cheap local stuff you all munch on non-stop.
@44
Jul 31st, 2012 - 09:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are a retard. What the butcher feeds the stray dogs is better than any meat you will see in the UK, EU, or US market. I'm not joking. The quality of meat is deplorable, tough, full of nerves and globs of grease, or in the case of EU/UK food, ridden with wonderful Mad Cow bacillums.
Nouriel Roubini, get mad at him, not me.
@45 you eat the udder? that is udderly gross....
Jul 31st, 2012 - 10:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yup, any self-respecting argie barbecue will have:
Jul 31st, 2012 - 10:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(OP=optional)
part 1: 3-5 sausages
1) chorizo argentino (100% pork)
2) chorisito norteño (litte sausages from Salta) OP
3) morcilla (related to black pudding)
4) salchicha parrilera OP
5) salchica polaca / kielbasa OP
part 2: 2-4 achuras (no idea how to translate this word, non-meat animal organs)
5) chinchulin (small intestine)
6) Tripa Gorda (large intestine) OP
7) mollejas (sweetbreads)
8) riñon (kidneys) OP
part 3: 2-4 pre carnes (this part is usually only present in COMPLETE asado)
9) carne de higado (kidney meat)
10) pollo asado (grilled chicken)
11) corazon (heart)
part 4: carnes (meats)
12) costilla de asado (the ribs)
13) entraña (the meat of the cow) OP
14) vacio (the backside)
15) otro corte (another cut) OP
part 5: festin gaucho (the gaucho cuts) OPTIONAL only for the ultimate barbecue
16) ubre (udder)
17) sesos (brains)
18) criadilla (the balls of the bull)
19) tucuru (boiled tenderized feet)
part 6: sides
20) ensalada mixta (lettuce, tomato, onions)
21) escarola (hard boiled eggs, cabbage, tomato, onions)
22) provolone (melted grilled provolone)
23) matambre
24) picada (three-four cheese cuts + peanut medley)
25) 3 month warm climate malbec or 1 year aged cabernet
part 7: desert
26) panqueque de dulce de leche (argentina pancakes filled with DDL)
27) flan
28) sweet Torrontes (desert wine)
done.
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Jul 31st, 2012 - 10:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why would I buy my meat in the UK?
Back to The crazy botox bitch and a garbage strike for her celebration of indepedence from being a deadbeat debtor.
Jul 31st, 2012 - 10:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 049 Captain Poppy
Jul 31st, 2012 - 11:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Please do tell me more. This dumb Gringo loves hearing tales of despair coming from the macho meat capital.
@51
Jul 31st, 2012 - 11:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What is a “gringo”?
51
Jul 31st, 2012 - 11:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I have to say I am surprised you had to ask that. Gringo is Spanish for foreigner.
Now good night my poor young Latino deadbeat. I'm off to eat some gristle and fat at the local restaurant. I'll most likely have some rice with it also. I wonder which of the Latino waiters will serve me tonight.
Strategic Outlook
Aug 01st, 2012 - 01:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ten years after the systemic crisis of 2001/02, the prospects for sustainable political and economic development in Argentina are not promising. The political system remains personality-driven and populist, based more on personal loyalty and clientelistic networks than on strong and representative political institutions and constitutional rules. The death of Néstor Kirchner, previously the undisputed political leader in the country, produced, on the one hand, the revalorization of the ex-president and of the Peronist movement. On the other hand, it has provoked the resurgence of power games in the political arena as new coalitions are forming to either support or combat Cristina Kirchner’s re-election in 2011. Innovative learning processes among the political elite are not in sight. The unification process among opposition forces came to an end before it had really begun. The internal battle for leadership within the Radical Civic Union (UCR) remains just as undecided as the question of potential alliances with other political forces. The relationship between the central government and the provinces also remains precarious. The combination of parties, organized power in the provinces and the lack of internal democracy favors clientelism and permits only ad hoc coalitions, not the formulation and implementation of a sustainable political strategy.
In the economic arena, the next government will face the unresolved problem of inflationary pressure caused by the restructuring of pricing structures and swift growth in demand, which may lead to a supply bottleneck, and, as a political consequence, to social protests. The first steps to correct the upwards trends of inflation rates and inequality would be to reestablish a serious and credible statistical system, to implement structural poverty-reduction policies and to provide incentives for higher saving rates. However, the structural basis for sustained economic development remains fragile as Argenti
@52
Aug 01st, 2012 - 01:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0Night. Thanks for reminding me, I'll go check the near-by wine bar. I wonder which English backpacker will want to service me tonight.
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Aug 01st, 2012 - 02:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well that was a nice meal. In the end I didn't go for any red meat but instead had some lovely Falklands seafood. The service was good.
Ha ha. Nice try TTT but we both know the deal. The European packpackers are youngsters, either gap students seeing some of the world before starting Uni or people who are slightly older but still having some fun before settling down into a career. Generally they are living on a shoe string but have the security of Mum and Dad's credit card for tight times.
The Latinos who served me my meal and washed my dishes tonight and serve me my groceries, mind my kids, clean my house, cut my grass and wash my vehicles are living here semi-permanently, often on their own, trying to make some money to send home to their families (often including Mum and Dad). I have total respect for them but everyone can see the difference. Your backpackers have the world in their hands, my Latinos are living hand to mouth.
Wow, we have another millionaire amongst us! Join the ranks of yankeeboy, Chris, Elaine, et al...
Aug 01st, 2012 - 02:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0What a lucky bunch we have here. Good thing this isn't the internet where nothing is what it seems...
Oh wait.
And grass in the Falklands? What grass?
hahahaha
A lot of backpackers just stay in Argentina, there are tens of thousands of them illegaly teaching English, French or Italian on the side, or working as waiters, or trying to actually get a real job, or simply just “lolling” in the vineyards, in BA city, or also in Patagonia, particularly Bariloche or El Bolson (for the flower power crowd, of course many backpackers being of that mentality).
They all say they dread going back to the mess their countries are in, that you might as well stay in a country where you can live life even if things are messy, than to work away in their countries which are no longer what they were. They are tired of bad news from back home.
I've lifted the spirits of a half dozen of them, well, they asked me, begged me really. Sure, I said. Ever heard of the “drink around the world” at Epcot? I'm doing the “foutre around the world”.
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Aug 01st, 2012 - 03:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0LOL! We're hardly millionaires; a joint family income of FKP96,,000 is hardly a millionaire's wage but I guess that's how it seems to you. Honestly though, there is not much unusual for a middle class dual income family here to get some help around the home.
The grass only needs mowing in the summer months. I get it cut once a fortnight. We get half a day of housework per week and a nice old lady does half a day of ironing. Not sure how we got onto having our vehicles washed but a cousin (I think) of the young woman who cleans our house offered to wash our Landrover one day when he came to pick her up. It was filthy after a drive to MPA so I agreed. Anyway, one thing led to another and now he washes both vehicles for us once a week. I just tallied it all up and the whole lot comes to around FKP150 per month. I really don't see how that equates to making me a millionaire but maybe I underestimate the divide in wealth between the average Joe here and the average Tobias there. Ha ha.
@38
Aug 01st, 2012 - 04:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0Macho latinos? How about macho Eurochavs??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=YVXc2o5shto
“On peut parler d'un cauchemar” ....
Women indeed live a daily nightmare on the streets of Europe... and the Belgians are well known as the most prudish of Europeans!! Imagine the strees of London, Paris, Rome, Madrid, Berlin... FAR WORSE than anything I've ever see in Argentina!!!
Machitos tontitos europeitos..!!
I wonder which English backpacker will want to service me tonight.
Aug 01st, 2012 - 08:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0Freudian slip methinks...Toby...
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Aug 01st, 2012 - 08:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0I was going to point that out to TiT when I read it but then I remembered that he has perfect English- in fact so good he's probably an Anglophile- so I figured each to their own. I guess he'll manage to find the odd back packer who'll be grateful for the extra cash.
60 Joe Bloggs
Aug 01st, 2012 - 08:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0eeeeeewwwwww!!! Pass the mind bleach please!!
There's a mental picture I don't want.......
#54
Aug 01st, 2012 - 09:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0In English, “service me” is what a bull does to a cow !!!!
I will give you the benefit of the doubt you did not mean to infer that.
You will have to be a bit more careful in your English usage. Also, some of the archaic English words you are fond of using do not have the connotations that you believe them to have.
many many many stupids writing here!!! poor guys
Aug 01st, 2012 - 11:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0As expected, strident silence on the appalling machismo of European men... And I've SEEN British TV, its just as bad in the nights of London.
Aug 01st, 2012 - 12:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Lets better deflect attention to some absolutely obscure idiomatic regionalism, when of course we coudn't say “bonjour”, “N'Abend” or “Buenas Noches”, even if their manhood depended on it.
Appalling lack of respect for women in Europe (and imagine in the USA, where white men are far more into the “Christian” and “gun” macho culture, and then you have black and mexican minorities... no wonder the American women adore the gentlemeness of the argie male).
#64
Aug 01st, 2012 - 01:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You're like a bad fart that lingers around too long. As usual, you know nothing of the words you use. You have no minorities in RGland because like the nazi's, you killed them all!
@65
Aug 01st, 2012 - 01:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Really? Am I getting to you that like all others here must resort to cheap lies?
hahahahah.... Truth Telling Troll, ending the myths about European/American non-machismo, economic supremacy, cultural superiority, and historical integrity.
TTT... The cynosure of truthdom.
Toby, There is nobody in the world that thinks Rgs are macho...nobody.
Aug 01st, 2012 - 02:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They are cowards and bullies. Strong with the weak and Weak with the Strong.
Well known phrase after a couple beers “I'll do it but don't tell anyone!”
There are also bars that have tables full of RG military that are taxi boys (male prostitutes), mostly foreigners go and pick them up for the night.
Why do you think Arg is such a huge destination for gay travelers? Hmm I wonder....
But I am sure I am not telling you anything you don't already know.
Not that there is anything wrong with it...
@67
Aug 01st, 2012 - 02:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0When have you ever been Strong with the Strong? Invading Grenada, Panama, Bosnia, and Kosovo makes you macho, you think? HAHAHAHAHA
And the two times you actually invade some country with a bit a balls (Vietnam, and Afghanistan), you high-tailed it out of there with the tail tucked between your cheek-line.
No, until you fight China + Russia and invade them and occupy them, no you are not macho.
Of course, Americans should be the last ones complaining about prostitution in their public service ranks... HAHAHAHAHAHA.
I do hear from American women, American gays, and from American Christians. They all say the same thing: you are no longer the land of the free. Women are harrassed, gays discriminated all over (see the restaurant chain), and Christians assaulted (can't even put Christmas decorations up).
In Argentina women feel liberated, gays totally free to admit who they are, and Christians can say “Jesus bless you” in a public building without fear of the thought police ruining their privacy.
America... lol, once people did admire you.
Yeah it is simply awful here you are right. Bad USA Bad...
Aug 01st, 2012 - 02:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I
t just seems strange that we still have the highest immigration rate of any country in the world and people literally are dying to get here.
How many rafts are going from Miami to Cuba? Wow that many?
Hahaha
Buy sugar loser.
Once again the ugly little troll reads tabloid gossip and takes it for......news.
Aug 01st, 2012 - 03:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 010 years is hightailing? I seen your pussy's you call soldiers in central america......those girls would not patrol at night because it was “dangerous”
In the 60's, women here were like that in RGland, second class people. By % there are more powerful people in America than there ever will be in RGton. You need to read about states and the constitution before mucus flows from your mouth. In the USA, marriage is a state right.....feds cannot regulate......but what would you know about a real country opposed to a wannabe. We don;t change history by allowing men born as men, change to a woman and then change the birth certificate......that's changing history. But RG's rwrite history all the time like thinking Falklands is RGland.
You're so fucking brave......take Falklands if you think it is yours?
@69
Aug 01st, 2012 - 03:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Mexican immigration is down to net 0, not even them are crossing. When was the last times Cubans got on a raft? I read sources that say its been 2 years... before the crisis that was a monthly occurrence. that should tell you all you need to know.
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Are you some sort of moron? So a 2nd class person is president of my country, and re-elected? My God, we are so bad to women? You are a joke when you can't even acknowledge that this country is better than yours in treating women and gays equally. I'm happy your states have constitutions, maybe sometime your feds will let them use them for a change.
Again your words vividly display and showcase your ignornace. No worries....it's a latin thing no intelligence. You really should try speaking with experience sometime.........it goes a long way in making a valid point.
Aug 01st, 2012 - 03:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Again your words vividly display and showcase your ignorance. Concur.
Aug 01st, 2012 - 03:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Toby, you must read trashy progressive web sites because you spew out some terribly ignorant posts.
Cuba 33,573 2010
US immigration from Cuba these have not materially changed in many years.
2010 total 1,042,625
That number is pretty steady for the last 10 years.
http://www.migrationinformation.org/datahub/comparative.cfm#worldstats
As for treating and respecting women troll, why did you have to create the “parlamento de Mujeres” to specifically handle “womens issues”. If women were equal to men, they would not need “special” legislative bodies to handle their issues because they are EQUAL. Argentina does not even allow women to have reproductive control of their body.
Aug 01st, 2012 - 04:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Women prisoners are raped by the guards, husbands and boyfriends set fire to their partners, the latest rage in Argentina. Only in the past few months could a women that was raped get an abortion.....RAPE! Even then allowing this remains dubious.
And access to birth control is difficult at best. SIP women are better in Argentina.
AFIP just announced that the max U$ you can purchase for travel is $70/day!
Aug 01st, 2012 - 04:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Bahahahaha Democracy indeed!
I guess they expect everyone to sell their body while on vacation to have a decent dinner.
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Aug 01st, 2012 - 04:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Set fire to partners? You mean one case (if that is even true), stigmatizes the whole country as partaking in such crime?
Then how about in the last few days, three cases of fathers shooting their wives and children dead in the USA, what does that make you?
You are a sick society, and you can't hide that from the world.
Check this out:
http://news.yahoo.com/fla-man-accused-disturbance-batman-movie-103705187.html?_esi=1
Isn't this the 10th time something like this happens in the USA in the last 10 days?
That's right, in your country, people can't even go to watch a movie in PEACE... they are terrified for their lives. How about all the mall shootings, people now panic at the slighest raising of voices between two people, read on the Huffington Post.
How about religious liberty? Read the Word Net Daily, that Christians and Jews can be officialy seen as discriminated because their beliefs are outlawed in public.
That's what your country has become, a scared-to-death country to go to a mall, a movie, or a university campus, a country where 25% of children are poor, where 15% unemployment reigns, and where women and gays can't get away fast enough.
Congratulations!!
and yet over 1MM people legally immigrate to the USA every year. I wonder why? Seems strange when Argentina is much easier to get into. Odd that!
Aug 01st, 2012 - 04:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0BTW the HuffPo is a progressive rag. If that is the type of “news” you read no wonder you get most of your facts wrong.
Buy sugar loser.
And so is World net daily right? I gotcha. I read both left and right... Le Monde and Figaro, the Telegraph and Guardian, ABC and El Pais, Allgemeiner and Spiegel... Pagina 12 an La Nacion...
Aug 01st, 2012 - 05:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Only narrow fools like you only watch Fox News and read WSJ. You can't take an alternative viewpoint to your fragile convictions.
Abc news is not an alternative view point to HuffPo retard. No wonder you are so messed up.
Aug 01st, 2012 - 05:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What do you do for a living? Waiter? Bartender? Hotel? I'm guessing it is something to do with tourists.
I think that is why you are so bitter, you are surrounded by people richer, more traveled and better than you are. You are forced to serve them and keep your mouth shut and do whatever they tell you to do. That is why you come on this board and vent.
Get me a cortado. Thanks.
HAHAHAHA!!
Aug 01st, 2012 - 05:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Please may someone with an ounce of World Savoir-faire explain to him why I juxtaposed Le Monde and Figaro, Telegraph and Guardian, ABC and Pais, Pagina 12 and La Nacion...
This is some of the funniest moments ever here!! He is dissing me as a waiter because he thinks my ABC comment is about 'his' ABC!!
This is a Greek tragedy, with yankeeboy as the protagonist. :)
So are you saying you only read Huffpo and no other US newspaper? Gotcha.
Aug 01st, 2012 - 05:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Waiter, Bell boy or Front Desk person. I know I am right.
Bitter bitter guy,
How far do you think U$70/day will go once you save enough for a plane ticket that is..
Will that take 1 or 2 years?
Bring my bags up but make sure you don't talk to me.
Here is $5 pesos thanks!
Hey, ABC and El Pais are Spanish newspapers, like Guardian and Telegraph are British newspapers, like Allgemeiner and Spiegel are German ones, Le Monde and Figaro are French ones...
Aug 01st, 2012 - 05:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What is the pattern, 3rd graders out there?
Yes, kids, one is liberalist the other traditionalist. Example: pagina 12 liberalist, La nacion traditionalist.
So “ABC” is not the tv chain, but a newspaper...
3rd graders, thanks for the answers, now explain to Yankeeboy. jojojo.
I will be serving you coffee yankeeboy. I promise I will always do just that when people begging for jobs are vouchsafed an interview in my corner office. :)
They don't give bellhops corner offices those are for the Sirs which you are well aware.
Aug 01st, 2012 - 05:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Bitter and Pathetic are you also Think?
Hey troll move to the USA that you THINK you kow so much about.......I need a new gardner.......Stephano went to the movies.
Aug 01st, 2012 - 06:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Toby could be a bell boy here and be RICH compared to what he is making now. He probably would have U$ to send home...too bad CFK would convert them to pesos before his family could buy food.
Aug 01st, 2012 - 08:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Maybe he can just send them a pallet of sugar
hehehehehe at least the usual 15%, unlike the cheapass RG 10%
Aug 01st, 2012 - 09:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Rgs don't tip, that is why when you flip them U$5 they basically lick your shoes.
Aug 01st, 2012 - 09:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-08-01/manufacturing-in-u-s-unexpectedly-contracts-for-second-month.html
Aug 01st, 2012 - 10:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Contract from what? LOL, contracted for 20 years already, what's left?
Big difference when your manufacturing contracts from multi-decades low levels, vs contracting (like in Argentina) from secular highs....
I'm sure we'll see some more Bushbama-towns along the railtracks any time.
The troll slides out from under his rock once again (where I just pissed) to state a month to month contract. And then makes up a contrived statement in sentence number two. And if he knew anything he would know that the USA has not been a manufacturing nation since the 70s, lolololololol. We send that to asia Now go get a wiki quote and wipe your ass with a Evita Peso
Aug 02nd, 2012 - 12:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0Toby, Try again little man.
Aug 02nd, 2012 - 03:32 am - Link - Report abuse 01. America’s manufacturing output, measured in constant 2005 dollars, has continued to increase in almost every year since 1970, except recently for recession-related decreases in 2001 and 2008-2009. In every year since 2004, manufacturing output in the United States has exceeded $2 trillion, and that’s twice the output produced in America’s factories back in the early 1970s. If the U.S. manufacturing sector were a separate country, its enormous size would rank today as the sixth-largest economy in the world, just behind France, and ahead of the U.K., Italy, and Brazil. And while manufacturing growth has been relatively flat in recent years for Japan and the European countries (Germany, U.K., France, and Italy), America’s manufacturing continues to grow at its long-term trend of 2 percent per year, on average.
bring me my bags....loser
Interesting Yankee I did not know that myself.
Aug 02nd, 2012 - 10:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0TiT
Aug 03rd, 2012 - 12:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0When I first moved to Argentina in '77 there was no such thing as an American fast food restaurant anywhere in the country, I think there was a CheBurger in B.A. but that was it. You seem to hate the Americans so much and deride them as part of your Argentine blind patriotism but everyone in your country does so much to embrace American pop-culture. Last May I was in Mar Del Plata and I hadn't been there for about twenty years. The busiest restaurants on the peotonal are McDonald's and Burger King. Who in their right mind would eat a shit hamburger from McDonald's when they could get a Lomito made with real beef tenderloin from a cow that never ate anything but grass its whole life for the same price? I'll tell you, a culture that yearns to be American, to have everything American and to raise their standard of living to what they enjoy in America. Your command of the English language follows suit, maybe they will give you a visa one day
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Aug 03rd, 2012 - 09:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0Such a busy life you lead, reading all those newspapers, watching youtube, and being the resident mercopress controversialist. However do you find the time for anything else?
Does anyone know if she did actually honour these debts? And if so was it in US$ or Peso's?
Aug 06th, 2012 - 11:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0Good news, viva Cristina =)
Aug 08th, 2012 - 12:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#67 “Strong with the weak and Weak with the Strong”
What a great description....of yourelf!
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