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Argentina: controversy over jailed prisoners taken to participate in “cultural activities”

Wednesday, August 1st 2012 - 05:20 UTC
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A controversy erupted in Argentina following confirmed claims that the government of President Cristina Fernandez appeals to convicted prisoners in support of public presentations and political rallies under cover of cultural activities. Read full article

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  • Frank

    One is judged by the company one keeps.......

    Aug 01st, 2012 - 10:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • PirateLove

    If you cant get a willing audience.........Invent one!
    If you havent got a legitamate claim.....Invent one!
    If you havent got a convenient history...Invent one!

    When will the Argentine people wake up....shes leading you a merry dance!

    Aug 01st, 2012 - 11:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anbar

    I'm not sure if I am reading this correctly, but is this article saying that Kirchner is taking confirmed murderers to her political rallies so that they can play the drums for her?

    Aug 01st, 2012 - 11:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • slattzzz

    God she's ugly

    Aug 01st, 2012 - 11:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Zhivago

    Argentina, you made your bed, now lie in it. It's time the world stopped feeling sorry for you!

    Aug 01st, 2012 - 11:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Sir Rodderick Bodkin

    @3
    You are correct.

    Some of these criminals are people that murdered many times and there's probably violators too.

    And this is why they should have implemented death sentence long time ago, but its convenient for the government to keep them alive so they can get more votes.

    This country is becoming a huge shantytown. As soon as sh€t hits the fan, i'm out of here.

    Aug 01st, 2012 - 12:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • EnginnerAbroad

    Part of their rehabilitation. Yes as long as that rehabilitation is as a Peronist supporter, I wonder how many of these “cultural” events do not have a connection to the Peronist party.

    Aug 01st, 2012 - 12:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Simon68

    This “social reinsertion” that CFK is talking about must be a very long drawn out business, Eduardo Vazquez was sentenced on 14th. June 2012, that is just over 2 months ago and he is already being groomed for freedom!!!!!

    This government has no respect for the victims of crime, the only thing that interests CFK is personal power and wealth!!!!!

    Aug 01st, 2012 - 01:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Iron Man

    The very mention of insertions and CFK in the same sentence makes my blood run cold. She is as unattractive on the inside as she is on the outside.

    Aug 01st, 2012 - 01:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    I am seriously worried that CFK wants to create civil unrest so that she can “PROTECT THE PEOPLE” with martial law.

    Aug 01st, 2012 - 02:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    She's a joke and building her “thug” army of people that will do her “nasty” work that the Army did in the 70s and 80s.

    Aug 01st, 2012 - 02:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard2

    #4
    No, she's not ugly, but neither is she beautiful.

    The picture shows that Maria Eva Duarte de Peron is the more pretty.
    But CFK is an old woman, so we should compare like with like -

    ...perhaps a better comparison is with Madonna.
    CFK's hands look better but her neck is worse.

    The problem is what she does, not what she looks like.

    Aug 01st, 2012 - 03:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Absolutley no respect for the victims/families of the crime.

    Aug 01st, 2012 - 03:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Iron Man

    Oh come on Geoff, if you saw her minus the 3 inch layer of make-up then surely it would be enough to make milk curdle.

    Aug 01st, 2012 - 03:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tobers

    Vaquez has been convicted for murdering his wife by dousing her in flammable liquid and setting fire to her. He and others are let out of prison PROVIDING they supports the crooked system.

    Every week CFK and her mafia cohorts are responsible for yet another display of extreme arrogance and contempt for democracy. WHY DO ARGENTINES TOLERATE THIS????!!!! Argentina so clearly does not have democracy.

    Aug 01st, 2012 - 03:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Mrlayback

    BTW where is BK ? surprised he is not here defending his queen..

    Aug 01st, 2012 - 04:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tobers

    BK would support CFK if she ordered a baby cull.

    Aug 01st, 2012 - 04:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Simon68

    Can you believe:

    Vazquez set fire to his wife and killed her.

    He is sentenced to 18 years prison.

    He will serve less than 9 years.

    CFK and her troupe let him out to take part in party political events!!!!!!

    Long live human rights (those of the victim's familly!!!!!

    Aug 01st, 2012 - 04:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • scarfo

    So 8 years ago some guy murdered 194 ppl and his wife and now hes allowed out to attend politicall ralies!!!

    Thats pretty fucking sick!

    Aug 01st, 2012 - 04:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Simon68

    19 scarfo (#)

    He wasn't tried for the Cromañon deaths, only his wife's death. He was sentenced on 14th. June this year.

    Aug 01st, 2012 - 04:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • scarfo

    20

    the former drums player of a band convicted for the fire in a disco that killed 194 youngster back in 2004 and was sentenced to 18 years in jail for also having murdered his wife.

    im confused

    Aug 01st, 2012 - 06:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    The apathy of the average Argentinian is disgusting.
    Rgs here say you can't blame everyone in the country for the gov't. Maybe not but I can say the total disregard for laws that is practiced daily by CFK and her minions is sickening and I can't believe THE PEOPLE let her get away with it.
    I think it must be fear or reprisal.
    Democracy is dead in Argentina.
    What a shame.

    Aug 01st, 2012 - 07:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • slattzzz

    @12 how do you know i was talking about her appearence and not her nature, she is PIG ugly on the inside as well as ugly on the outside and by the way it's called satire, can't help trying to wind up BK, it's an old Navy trait
    PS Maddona would still get it where as I wouldn't touch CFK with yours matey

    Aug 01st, 2012 - 09:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    This seems like a very brave, progressive, and right thing to do. The best way to respect victims is to prevent future crimes, and rehabilitation is a better way of doing that than retribution. Plus even the worst people deserve the chance to become better people, even if they deserve nothing else, no?

    #12 Well at least you're trying to be objective, but I don't agree. She is more beautiful than Evita (not to demean the lovely Evita) because she has more character in her face formed of more experience, as for the comparison with Madonna, well I like Madonna but Cristina is again more beautiful (and certianly more like Evita!), agree about Madonna's hands btw but not Cristina's lovely neck. And more importantly than all of this, what is the problem with what she does??

    Aug 01st, 2012 - 10:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    And LSD trip

    Aug 02nd, 2012 - 12:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Mrlayback

    24 BK

    suppose one of those criminals happen to escape the prison guards and attacked someone you know, a loved one.. Will you still defend your queen ! BTW If you look at Article 17 of law the rules for temporary releases ! what she is defending is illegal !!

    Aug 02nd, 2012 - 12:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Dictators break the laws all the time.
    Disgusting
    Death of Democracy and
    The apathetic Rgs deserve what they get
    A Ford Falcon will be waiting for the agitators.

    Aug 02nd, 2012 - 03:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Faulconbridge

    'This seems like a very brave, progressive, and right thing to do. The best way to respect victims is to prevent future crimes, and rehabilitation is a better way of doing that than retribution. Plus even the worst people deserve the chance to become better people, even if they deserve nothing else, no?'

    However, letting a convicted murderer out to perform at a political rally two months into their sentence suggests other motives, BK@24, or remarkable arrogance, I doubt if it comforted relatives of Vázquez's wife or his other victims much eithe . At a gig to raise money for victims of crime, perhaps, or teaching younger prisoners to play the drums might be useful and rehabilitative fir both parties, but it's like inviting Harold Shipman to serve on a committee to formulate future N.H.S. policy.
    I'd always assumed' El secreto de sus ojos' gave a distorted account of Argentina's legal system. It seems I was mistaken.

    Aug 02nd, 2012 - 05:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard2

    British_Kirchnerist (#24)

    Lol.
    You, like Tim Rice's dear Evita, continue to bring laughter to my dull life.

    Aug 02nd, 2012 - 09:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Maybe after serving 90% of their sentence then can start to be introduced to be productive once again in society. She definitely has ulterior motives......a goon squad

    Aug 02nd, 2012 - 12:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    Another example of CFKC thinking she is above the law. Always a mistake.

    Aug 02nd, 2012 - 01:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Does anyone else thinks it's anti-democratic to break the law personal gain? You watch this witch change the constitution and manage to get reelected.

    Aug 02nd, 2012 - 03:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • cornishair

    ”Vazquez was taken by the Kirchnerite grouping “Vatayón Militante” (‘Militant battalion’), to play at political rallies,”

    ok what the hell! why would anyone call a political group a militant battalion, sounds like something form the Russian Revolution. Simon68 can you shed any light on this?.
    24 British_Kirchnerist. your sooo not british mate!

    Aug 02nd, 2012 - 03:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Simon68

    33 cornishair (#)

    As far as I can tell, the name comes from the late 60s/early 70s when the Moontoneros and the ERP called their terrorist groups “Batallones”, this offshoot of La Campora is a registered ONG called “Vatayón Militante” which is a sort of misspelling of “batallón” which seems to appeal to the “nacional y popular” side of local politics.

    Basically we're talking about a sort of Brownshirt outfit recruiting from among the prison population what can only be shock troops to enforce CFK's political outlook prior to the mid-term elections next year, and presumably with a view to the re-reelection in 2015.

    Aug 02nd, 2012 - 04:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • cornishair

    34 Simon68. thanks simon, as im talking to a argentine. whats KFC's support like in country?, i mean there must be people who can see she damaging your country (and image), from where im sitting it seems like your country has back slid into some surreal 70's state (i mean no offence).

    Aug 02nd, 2012 - 05:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Simon68

    35 cornishair (#)

    No offence taken, you are absolutely right CFK thinks that she should have been a terrorist in the 70s instead of helping her husband to fleece poor farmers out of their property, so she is living in a sort of “Back to the future” situation.
    As to support of CFK, I would say that she is steadily losing support as people become au fait of the economic situation. The famous 54% landslide was of course untrue, she actually got about 36% of the vote. Right now I don't think she has a great deal of support, although that might be wishfull thinking!!!!!

    Aug 02nd, 2012 - 06:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • cornishair

    36 Simon68. well i hope your country wake's from the nightmare of nationalist populism soon, apart from the falklands can't say i have any problem with your country. The brownshirt comment was pretty funny, until i thought about it for a bit :/ i hope argentina isn't dragged down that road (again).

    Aug 02nd, 2012 - 07:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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