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Paraguay urges OAS to take a position on the country’s situation
Paraguay urged the Organization of American States, OAS, on Wednesday to say whether it will be taking measures or not against the country following the removal of Fernando Lugo from the presidency, a political incident that has reverberated in the whole continent. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rules“Unasur and Mercosur suspended Paraguay until the next general election scheduled for April 2013, in reprisal for what they described as a “democratic rupture” of the country’s institutional process.”
Aug 02nd, 2012 - 10:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0This was a group-presidential-punishment of the Left, saying
”Don't you dare to democratically replace (or attempt to otherwise terminate) us presidents; we will gang up on you to make you and your country suffer and fail.”
Even if the OAS issued a statement it would be meaningless. Anti-democratic leaders of Mercosur are hellbent on doing whatever they want. Did they not say something to the effect.......“sometimes the political needs overtake the rule of law”
Aug 02nd, 2012 - 12:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#1 This is exactly why OAS should openly support Paraguay; it will give the non-radical left a message that if you remain democratic, law abiding country, that the rest of the civilized world will support you. If the USA,Canada, MExico, etc., create free trade agreements with Paraguay, it will really be a slap in the face the other members of MERCOSUR.
Aug 02nd, 2012 - 01:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0An agreement will likely occur. However the logistics will prove problematic.
Aug 02nd, 2012 - 02:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I came to Uruguay because of the democratic government, just as Pepe came to power.
Aug 02nd, 2012 - 05:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0At first he did reasonabbly well.
NOW he is at the end of most Uruguayo 'leashes' and is badly damaged by these banana republic stunts he keeps supporting.
We badly need a new government who will at least steer a better course through this load of crap they call Mercosur.
(5) ChrisR
Aug 02nd, 2012 - 06:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Mark my words...............
I have meet dozens of Expat pensioner turnips like you...
I have meet “you” in Mejico, in Costa Rica, in Panamá, in Ecuador, in Brazil and in Argentina…..
Angry, old and ugly souls that can’t contribute with anything positive to our societies….
Do yourself (and us) a biiig favor....
Pack your bags and go home.
Chris
Aug 02nd, 2012 - 06:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You should have been here before 2002 to see how the right wing does things :)
Number one is a moron stuck in the fake left vs right paradigm and lack of knowledge of the country he lives in..oh by the way, it's bitching because it's pension from the UK is becoming slowly, very slowly, worthless. ChrisR? does anyone here believes his own fairy tale stories that he types here of what kind of “investor” it is and arriving with gold, knowledge of american (north, central and south) politics and all his bla bla bla theories? No..thought so. It's notl left winger, neither a right winger, more a wannabe and a Retard computer gamer who gets his info from the web (wiki) and hangs out here as an “expert”.
Aug 02nd, 2012 - 06:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What Mr Think typed is correct, because as an expat (fancy word for immigrant)..myself, I see them here in the US and I avoid them as much as I can, cause they are an embarrassment and majority contribute shit to community.
Will those ugly brits go back home? No, because they are full aware that it's a shit hole.
(5) Chris -- I agree with Think...
Aug 02nd, 2012 - 07:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Get over it. I'm an expat as well, but personally I think Pepe has done an extraordinary job, all things considered. You know that saying dawg, “...before you judge [or are even CAPABLE of judging] another man [or country], walk a mile in his shoes [live there awhile]”. I'll close with another, “It's better to be assumed a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt”.
Paraguay is between a rock and a hard place. They have been cornered by an erratic and vulture-like diplomacy from Brazil, Argentina and Uruguay.
Aug 02nd, 2012 - 10:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Fear mongering diplomacy about Mercosur becoming the force in South America and dictating terms won´t work. Already blocs like the Europan Union have been proven worthless. Chile, Mexico, the US, Canada, Japan, New Zealand and other countries in the Pacific are already drafting what will become the largest Free Trade region in the world. Paraguay can join the Pacific Alliance, can pursue a FTA with Chile, Colombia, the U.S., Mexico, they can do many things and they more options that what Dilma and Cristina would like. And they will regret Paraguay leaving the Mercosur.
Don't look now: Negotiations are now under way for Ecuador to join MERCOSUR. Currently Brazil sells them laminated sheets, industrial goods, cell phones. Ecuador sell to Brazil: Tuna, palm oil, confectionary, chocolate. Ecuador is becoming a major producer of oil and gas. ---- MERCOSUR is also commencing negotiations for a free trade agreement with Canada and the European Union. (It already has free-trade agreements with Israel, Palestine and Egypt. All big buyers of soy and poultry from Brazil. Argentina sells $billions of soy to Egypt).
Aug 03rd, 2012 - 04:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0“I have meet dozens of Expat pensioner turnips like you...
Aug 03rd, 2012 - 09:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0I have meet “you” in Mejico, in Costa Rica, in Panamá, in Ecuador, in Brazil and in Argentina…..Angry, old and ugly souls that can’t contribute with anything positive to our societies…” Think (#6)
Some of us ex-pats do try hard to improve matters, but were are in someone else's country and this limits what can be done.
Though I have been invited to stand on an anti-corruption ticket for a position that would need to be voted in by the public.
I, of course, have to say “ineligible”.
'An angry, old and ugly turnip', Think?
Well, 'angry' and old. No 'turnip'! And, I think, still quite handsome, in a Sean Connery type of way ;-)
TO-
Aug 03rd, 2012 - 11:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0I don't Think aka The Turnip In Chief AND Fido Dildo (the retard [to use his phrase]) and Windrider.
I know it must be terribly hard for the ugly, bitter old liar that is TTIC to realise that what I post is actually the truth. I have done the things I say and have run a very large engineering business with my fellow directors.
Unlike many on here (especially Fido Dildo) I understand finance from firsthand experience and other people have benefitted financially from that wealth and my charitable efforts (can any of you match that?).
Windrider. I don't know you so I will be gentle.
Try taking pills for the wind: it is making you a windbag. I pay taxes in Uruguay and have lived here a while (16 months). Also, try using original quips instead of other, unatributed and bastardised ones. “It's better to stay silent and look a fool, rather than speak and remove all doubt. - Mark Twain”
Guzz.
If the right were bad, how come virtually ALL the 'recent' improvements were their ideas?
Please tell me ONE thing that Pepe has originated and taken through to finality that has ‘improved’ things.
(12) GeoffWard2
Aug 03rd, 2012 - 04:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You know perfectly well, that comment No.(6) was not minted for you...
Yes, you can sometimes be an Insufferable Provocative British Neoliberal Besserwisser............... but you are also blessed with a not negligible amount of Social Intelligence, duly complemented and improved by your Brazilian Social(ist) in-laws and your lovely and tolerant wife….
OAS should of course suspend Paraguay; of course I don't expect this particualr organisation to do the right thing!
Aug 03rd, 2012 - 05:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Chris
Aug 03rd, 2012 - 07:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Don't take me for a fool. Plan Ceibal, the house projects for the poor... The right will get no credit for decades of promises that never ended up in anything but money in their own pockets. Right wing talks a lot about improvements, I'll give you that. The left wing makes it happen...
16 Guzz
Aug 03rd, 2012 - 09:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think that is a little unfair, I don't take you for a fool.
Perhaps I think you are wrongheaded at times but that is far from thinking you foolish.
Housing is always a contentious issue and wide open to 'bribe' the electorate by any political party.
We were fed up with labour 'announcing' they were going to build 4,500 houses per year. Never happened.
OK. But just what has Pepe done? This is a serious question and I just cannot fathom the answer out myself. I was impressed when he came to power. We were going to the inauguration until the cow Clinton took it over and made a fcuking circus of it.
But just lately Pepe seems to have lost his way. I wasn't swayed by the 'I have to swallow snakes and frogs' comment and the ‘Presidents have to forget the law and rule' statement was just plain dictatorial.
Fingers crossed if the Chin actually construct the Atlantic deep sea port due to his efforts I think that would be comfort enough and he will have achieved a 15 year old dream. With 'one bound' Uruguay would shake the mantle of Argentina off her for good.
You have to separate Pepes politics at home and the foreign one. In Uruguay, Pepes barriers are mostly from within the FA, and not so much from the opposition. Mercosur and Unasur are a whole other matter.
Aug 03rd, 2012 - 10:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You can't deny what Pepes government has achieved up to this day, look at poverty, education, energy sector. Things sre moving like never before, and people are noticing it in their pockets. Far more important than money is that people are a lot happier though :)
I agree with you that Pepes words were a bit unlucky, but knowing the man, last thing you can call him is dictatorial...
18 Guzz
Aug 04th, 2012 - 11:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0Thank you for your considered reply.
I most certainly do not deny what Pepe has done with the economy (basically he got closer to the available investment) and that was what confused me regarding the Mercosur antics.
I now have a greater understanding, many thanks. :o)
#18 Whats the situation inside the FA like, it seems Pepe is on the left of it and Astori on the right but are there any nuances within that and what is the balance of forces between them? Is there any chance Pepe or a future left leader could be less constrained? Or could the right (of the FA at least) take back the Presidency? I agree the last thing you could call Pepe is dictatorial, he seems like a lovely old guy!
Aug 08th, 2012 - 11:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@20 Blind_Scottie_Kirchnerist
Aug 09th, 2012 - 02:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Living in the country as you do (NOT) you would know about that, wouldn't you?
You have not denied you are a Glaswegian.
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