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Falkland Islands debates and prepares for the development of the oil industry

Friday, August 3rd 2012 - 08:25 UTC
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A public debate on the future of the Falkland Islands in the face of income from oil exploitation is required rapidly, according to a Member of the elected Legislative Assembly. Read full article

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  • Idlehands

    Every islander should be able to afford an Argentine maid soon - maybe a butler too.

    If you want to know what to do - call Kuwait - they have their house in order.

    Aug 03rd, 2012 - 08:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Frank

    Kuwait? Didn't they have a nasty neighbour once? Whatever happened to them?...

    Aug 03rd, 2012 - 08:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Englander

    The majority of Argentinians are lazy with low moral standards. You'd be better off with Chilian or Uruguayan domestic help. They may cost more but would do a much better job.

    Aug 03rd, 2012 - 08:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • War Monkey

    Can we stick to insulting Malvinistas please?

    Aug 03rd, 2012 - 09:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Frank

    Oh...OK... 'all Malvanistas are lazy with low moral standards. You'd be better off with Chilian or Uruguayan domestic help. They may cost more but would do a much better job.'
    A majority of Argentinians are Malvanistas .... therefore ... ergo...QED ... etc...

    Aug 03rd, 2012 - 09:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • War Monkey

    ******sigh******

    Aug 03rd, 2012 - 09:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Frank

    :)

    Aug 03rd, 2012 - 10:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HansNiesund

    @4
    > Can we stick to insulting Malvinistas please?

    I'm sure there will be one along in a minute.

    Aug 03rd, 2012 - 10:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    Quite seriously, Falklanders should not import argies for any reason. Whilst it would obviously be deeply satisfying to import them for such high-level tasks as, by hand, cleaning sewage works, cesspits and slurry pits, as well as mine clearance, it must be appreciated that they don't know how to WORK and they might get inflated ideas of their “rights” once they have experienced the exceptional recompense of two slices of bread, coated with slurry, and half a pint of muddy water a day. However, if the Islands can afford the “directional” trampolines, they could be considered for mine clearance. Properly deployed, they should cost nothing and may even bury what is left of themselves. Another possible use for them might be underwater exploration. All that will be required is a 200 pound weight belt and a “safety” rope secured around the neck and throat. Thinking about it, another possible use might be torsion testing for ropes, cables and the like. Attach the ropes, cables etc to the argie ankles and pull them in opposite directions. Determine the point at which argie legs are ripped off or the argie body is ripped in half. Keep these options in mind for possible uses of argies. They might also be used for surgical experimentation. And remember that earplugs are cheaper than anaesthetics and can be re-used!

    Aug 03rd, 2012 - 12:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • gustbury

    they're losing the time and money,Malvinas must to come back to Argentina!!

    Aug 03rd, 2012 - 01:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Bill Luxton

    @ 10 -
    Its a shame that serious debate is spoiled by the ravings of a complete idiot like Gustbury....

    Aug 03rd, 2012 - 03:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Moises

    The Falklands always were, are and will be british

    Aug 03rd, 2012 - 04:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • WestisBest

    @10

    How exactly are we losing time and Money Gustbury? Under Argentine rule we'd all be on the bones of our arses and the Falklands would be a poor, disadvantaged Argentine province with no oil industry (as there's no way Argentina would ever get it's act together enough to develop it) just the ruined remains of what was once prosperous fishery, agriculture and tourism industries.
    Tempting but no thanks.

    Aug 03rd, 2012 - 06:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • redpoll

    @11 Quite agree Bill but unfortunately there are a lot of screw worms (bichera) about. Probably infected with footrot as well. To say they have a sheeps brain would be an insult to sheep

    Aug 03rd, 2012 - 08:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islander1

    Mercopress- can you bar Conqueror?- he is embarassing, and 5 miles to the right of Hitler in his preachings.

    Aug 03rd, 2012 - 08:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • War Monkey

    @15 Islander1 (#)
    Aug 03rd, 2012 - 08:32 pm

    Just keep reporting the daft old Walt.

    Aug 03rd, 2012 - 08:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • redpoll

    @15 Yep he goes over the top too often

    Aug 03rd, 2012 - 09:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • cornishair

    15 Islander1 . “5 miles to the right of Hitler in his preachings.” :)

    16 War Monkey forgive the ignorance but whats a Walt?

    Aug 03rd, 2012 - 09:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Joe Bloggs

    I've said my peace about Conquerer before but it's time to remind everyone that I don't endorse a lot of his comments. He is not speaking on behalf of Falkland Islanders or the British and he does nothing to put us in a good light.

    The only saving grace is that for every Conquerer there is a Pirat-Hunter or a Tobias so it balances out. Any statistician would disregard the scores that these gentlemen score on both sides as spikes against the trend.

    Aug 03rd, 2012 - 09:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • War Monkey

    @18 cornishair (#)
    Aug 03rd, 2012 - 09:40 pm

    Walt = A Walter Mitty. Somebody desperate to be seen to be something that he or she isn't. Somebody living in a fantasy world. A bit like a Malvinista really. They get so carried away with it that everybody else notices the make believe long before the Walts realise that they have been rumbled. It is a term often used unofficially by British soldiers to describe the literally thousands who have stood at bars with a thousand yard stare who will regale you with stories of their time in the SAS if you stand within 2 paces of them. They can often be seen in public waring full dress uniforms only it all turns out to mix and match and badly fitted.and they are usually a little too rotund to affect the demeanour of a genuine serving soldier.

    A Walt.

    Aug 03rd, 2012 - 10:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    @19 Joe Bloggs

    His purpose is to give balance to the force.

    Aug 04th, 2012 - 01:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Joe Bloggs

    21 Pugol-H

    Fair enough but he talks a lot of shite and when he starts saying he's an army officer I draw the line. He's an army officer just like I am an international number one best-selling paperback writer living in the Falklands under my real name. Nobody has any idea that I am really Lee Child.

    War Monkey got it spot on when he said Walter Mitty.

    As for the main story. I think FIG is wise to be cautious until we are 100% sure that the black stuff is going to flow in huge amounts. But when it's confirmed they need to be ready to act fast. Improvements to the roads is a high priority as is the deep water port.

    After all of the main things get sorted out I hope the MLAs remember about the HCS. Remember it was only reduced to zero, not done away with. Before you tell me I'm being selfish, I'm all in favour of means testing it which would rule me out of contention but it would be good to make it available for those who need it.

    Aug 04th, 2012 - 05:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @19 The word you shoulod have been using was “piece”. And whether you endorse my comments or not is of no significance.

    I will say this, just to add to your woeful ignorance. The time is coming when argieland will run out of “peaceful” or “democratic” methods in its attempt to force Britain and the Falklands to give in. Where will YOU be then? I have made my position and attitude clear in the past, but I'll restate it. Give me a suitable weapon, adequate ammunition and a flight and I'm quite willing to be there. I believe in MY country and the rights of the Falklanders! My bet is that you'll be sitting in your armchair or lying on your couch watching on TV. Not to mention deciding what to “endorse”.

    I wonder if you will ever have the moral courage to admit when you are wrong?

    @22 Are you afflicted with “the argie disease”? You know what I mean. Fabrication and mendaciousness.

    Aug 04th, 2012 - 10:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Joe Bloggs

    23

    You numbskull. 'Say your piece' or 'say your peace' are both correct and both have different meanings. I meant to say “I've said my peace”.

    FFS!

    Chuckle chuckle.

    Aug 04th, 2012 - 12:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    @23 - Conquerer

    “Give me a suitable weapon, adequate ammunition and a flight and I'm quite willing to be there. I believe in MY country and the rights of the Falklanders! ”

    Suitable weapon? Water pistol then. I doubt you would be able to fight, don't forget all your infirmities that prevented you from joining up in 1982 to fight. It's been 30 years since then, so you will no doubt be old and infirm now.

    You would be a liability to any fighting force:

    1. You're not fit enough to fight due to your self confessed numerous infirmities.
    2. You don't know anything about weapons and tactics, you just think you do.
    3. You have no discipline.
    4. You don't know when to keep your mouth shut.
    5. You have no honour.
    6. You are a coward.

    That about sums it up. The UK forces and the Falkland Islanders don't need or want help from the likes of you. You don't speak for Britain, you don't speak for the Falkland Islanders, and you certainly don't speak for the British Armed Forces whose honour and sacrifice you spit on when you 'pretend' that you have served.

    You have no honour, you are a coward and you certainly don't have the 'moral' courage to admit that you talk bollocks most of the time.

    If you want to emulate the Armed Forces try living by their core standards and values.

    Selfless commitment
    Respect for Others (including the enemy)
    Loyalty
    Integrity
    Discipline
    Courage

    If you try to live by these standards you will become a better human being.

    Aug 04th, 2012 - 02:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    As my issues aren't with the Islamders, I haven't been posting on the threads that handles the matters. Now I will make an exception, not to critizice but to salute my enemies at words. Lep and monkey, for all it counts, I thank thee for being human above all. Joe and Islander, you both are genuine I believe, nothing new to it. My most humble thanks. Now back to ideologies... :)

    Aug 04th, 2012 - 02:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • David Cameron

    1 Idlehands=== I think everyone should have an Argentinian either as a pet or to slave away at small domestic chores. Nothing to tasking as we all can see that they are not very good at anything that they have to think about as their small brains have not evolved like the rest of the worlds population.

    However with a little training and a little encouragement with the stick and a carrot they do become capable of cleaning ones toilet.

    Aug 04th, 2012 - 04:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    @27 - DC

    Your post isn't big, clever or amusing.

    Aug 04th, 2012 - 04:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    MLA Dick Sawle said: “The future is a bright one for the private sector who as we have already seen are ready to invest amounts that the government simply doesn’t have, take risks that the government simply can’t take, and assume a far larger role in our society as has ever previously been the case.”

    Maybe you'll end up like Argentina after the Menem/de la Rua “private sector” experiment. And I will be in solidarity with the ordinary people who stand up to any neoliberal attacks

    #1 Import a couple each, then they can excercise their self determination =)

    #2 Kuwait WAS a nasty neighbour, drilling diagonally under Iraq to siphon off its oil. Of course Iraq was wrong to invade but what has been done ever since to the people of Iraq who were no more represented by the dictator Saddam than the Argentines were by the dictator Galtieri has been one of the biggest crimes of this or the last century. It sounds like you approve, I don't. My view is more mainstream in Britain these days

    #11 You must be meaning #9!

    Aug 04th, 2012 - 04:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    “We as a government and society have to start making things happen”

    Are they planning to boil penguins for oil again?

    Aug 04th, 2012 - 04:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    @30 - Marcos

    You sound very jealous.

    The Falkland Islands Government is right to take its time and decide on what is best for the whole population.

    When the black gold starts flowing, they'll be able to develop their islands as never before. They are already financially independent, but oil will be the icing on the cake.

    By the way, is the Argentine government still grovelling to the Chinese in the hopes that they'll invest in YPF?

    I'll be surprised if China invests, but if they do, CFK better not try and rob them. Remember, unlike Spain, China has teeth, and could bury Argentina if they felt they had been cheated.

    Aug 04th, 2012 - 04:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    Lep, I'm glad for the islanders, but after Venezuelas incorporation to Mercosur, I don't think the Chinese are needed to get YPF going...

    Aug 04th, 2012 - 04:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    Posted too soon, theres not much I can add to the excoriation of Conqueror by my countrymen and erstwhile opponents except to echo what Guzz has said, its good to see that despite our ideological differences people like Joe, LEP etc are committed to keeping some honour and humanity in the debate =)

    Aug 04th, 2012 - 05:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Furry-Fat-Feck

    @27 David Cameron (#) Aug 04th, 2012 - 04:04 pm

    Shhhh! Grown ups talking.

    Aug 04th, 2012 - 06:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islander1

    Thanks Guzz- Yes I too believe in fair debate - we just respect each other,s different views- even if we do legpull a bit hard at each other at times! It,s all in good fun and not malicous though- as its a free society both sides get some who are a bit fanatical at times.

    Aug 04th, 2012 - 10:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Joe Bloggs

    I enjoy the debate and I respect the rights of people to say what they want. Sometimes I get carried away a little as a lot of us do but as for deadbeats like Conquerer and Pirat-Hunter... hmm.

    Thanks to Islander and Guzz for your support.

    Conquerer, say whatever you like but may I suggest you say it about 500 metres south of Brighton Pier. LOL!

    Aug 05th, 2012 - 12:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • redpoll

    Thanks Lepracorn, Joe, BK , islander and Guzz.There are far too many comments about peoples sexual proclivities, toilet habits and prsonal insults on these threads which are against the rules and which the moderator allows May I suggest that we all flag such extreme comments for abuse, no matter which side they come from?
    To misquote Voltaire “ I dont approve of your ideas, but I will defend your right to express them to the death”
    So Queensberry rules from now on?

    Aug 05th, 2012 - 06:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Joe Bloggs

    Thanks redpoll, I'm in. It wouldn't be the first time I've had posters from both sides removed.

    Aug 05th, 2012 - 09:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Englander

    24
    As I understand matters you can “say your piece” and “hold your peace”.

    Anyway why no news on MercoPress about Noble Energy. Announced earlier today the partnership of this excellent US Company with FOGL is a significant step forward for both the Falkland Islands and South America.

    Aug 06th, 2012 - 01:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • redpoll

    39 Excellent news. If only the Rg government would stop treating the Falklanders as ignorant children and recognize them as an intelligent people with their own government there could be tremendous benefits to both sides. If only Cristinita would stop throwing her toys out of the pram and grow up we might get somewhere

    Aug 06th, 2012 - 03:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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    Aug 08th, 2012 - 12:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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