Two Venezuelan fishing vessels were caught illegally operating n French Guiana waters by a French Navy patrol and will be destroyed as is normal procedure in the territory, according to Cayenne media. Read full article
What lesson is that then? Dissolve itself and have FI become an integral part of the United Kingdom with the Royal Navy Fisheries Protection Squadron taking appropriate action against those thieving in UK EEZ waters?
FI actually does more- last time one was caught and refused to pay the heavy fine -oh and usually the catch is confiscated and they have to buy it back - we stripped the vessel, sold the saleable and then the clean empty hulk was towed out and sank.
Am waiting for all the Arg supporters to come on here though and shout French European Colonialism surely?
Since then no more major incidents.
@3 Sorry. Slightly inappropriate action. By all means, strip the vessel. But then tow it to argie waters in sight of argie populated areas, equip it with large quantities of explosives and motion detectors. And then set it on fire. Let the argies watch their stuff being destroyed.
But surely Dead Man Walking is going to send his armed local militia (complete with 80 YO grandma and AK47) over to the islands to teach the French a lesson?
No doubt that the French Navy has many military exercises every year in French Guiana's territorial waters and one doubts that its neighbours say anything about it. Maybe Hugo Chávez might say something now...
3 Islander1. I seem to remember reading somewhere a FIG fisheries protection ship chased after a illegal fishing boat for something like 24 days, before passing at off to a aussie ship?.
6 ChrisR. Have you seen Venezuela's Zona en Reclamación (Reclamation Zone) in Guyana, they wana steal half the bloody country. What is it with south amercian territorial disputes?.
I've always respected france's don't mess with owe territory thing, its nice to see a country that stands up for its self.
@8
I agree. The French have a nice clean no-nonsense line. The territory is either French or it is not, end of story. Like Islam, there is only one god and Ala is his name. No holy trinity nonsense.
The British have this complex hierarchy of sovereign status for territories and protectorates. Just think how different history would have been if, when the American colonists said “no tax without representation”, the British had responded by providing representation for the New Englanders in the parliament...I digress.
9 & 10. aww.. the old enemy :) got to respect them for standing up for themselves!.
I'm still finding it had to understand all these centuries old territorial disputes in south america. I think it must have something to do with standing on the sidelines in two world wars, millions of deaths seem to put a downer on demanding territory. shed any light on it Condorito?
11 Cornish
In the beginning there was peace and harmony.
Then humans arrived and settled the continent from the jungles to the deserts to the frozen tip of Patagonia.
They were hunter gatherers. About 5000 years ago the Peruvian peoples started farming and moving up the technology tree, spawning many great civilizations who subjugated their neighbours.
Then Pizarro arrived with steel, gun powder, books and germs. The Spanish took the whole continent for themselves, except for the bit the Pope kindly gave to Portugal. The Spanish broke the continent in to administrative regions, each with their own governors. The distances, the logistics and the ambitions of local elites meant that the regions began to grow apart; each developing their own local traditions, cuisine and dialect, not to mention the influence of the different indigenous peoples on each region.
By 18 hundred when the independence movements got underway, the national outlines already existed, but without clear territorial limits. So right from day 1 of nationhood the borders were sketchy.
Most disputes have now been resolved. I think (not sure) that only Argentina (claiming FI) and Venezuela (claiming part of Guyana) have unresolved issues.
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Disclaimer & comment rulesA lesson the FIG should learn. It would certainly spice up the Falklands news.
Aug 03rd, 2012 - 07:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0What lesson is that then? Dissolve itself and have FI become an integral part of the United Kingdom with the Royal Navy Fisheries Protection Squadron taking appropriate action against those thieving in UK EEZ waters?
Aug 03rd, 2012 - 08:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0FI actually does more- last time one was caught and refused to pay the heavy fine -oh and usually the catch is confiscated and they have to buy it back - we stripped the vessel, sold the saleable and then the clean empty hulk was towed out and sank.
Aug 03rd, 2012 - 10:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0Am waiting for all the Arg supporters to come on here though and shout French European Colonialism surely?
Since then no more major incidents.
@3 Sorry. Slightly inappropriate action. By all means, strip the vessel. But then tow it to argie waters in sight of argie populated areas, equip it with large quantities of explosives and motion detectors. And then set it on fire. Let the argies watch their stuff being destroyed.
Aug 03rd, 2012 - 12:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0French Action,
Aug 03rd, 2012 - 01:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0British words
But surely Dead Man Walking is going to send his armed local militia (complete with 80 YO grandma and AK47) over to the islands to teach the French a lesson?
Aug 03rd, 2012 - 01:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ha, ha, ha, ha.
No doubt that the French Navy has many military exercises every year in French Guiana's territorial waters and one doubts that its neighbours say anything about it. Maybe Hugo Chávez might say something now...
Aug 03rd, 2012 - 01:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 03 Islander1. I seem to remember reading somewhere a FIG fisheries protection ship chased after a illegal fishing boat for something like 24 days, before passing at off to a aussie ship?.
Aug 03rd, 2012 - 01:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 06 ChrisR. Have you seen Venezuela's Zona en Reclamación (Reclamation Zone) in Guyana, they wana steal half the bloody country. What is it with south amercian territorial disputes?.
I've always respected france's don't mess with owe territory thing, its nice to see a country that stands up for its self.
@8
Aug 03rd, 2012 - 03:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I agree. The French have a nice clean no-nonsense line. The territory is either French or it is not, end of story. Like Islam, there is only one god and Ala is his name. No holy trinity nonsense.
The British have this complex hierarchy of sovereign status for territories and protectorates. Just think how different history would have been if, when the American colonists said “no tax without representation”, the British had responded by providing representation for the New Englanders in the parliament...I digress.
Well done Froggies! UK/ Gibraltar take note: “grow a pair” © Conqueror
@8
Aug 03rd, 2012 - 03:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We, the Brits, should learn from the French.
I NEVER thought I would say that!
9 & 10. aww.. the old enemy :) got to respect them for standing up for themselves!.
Aug 03rd, 2012 - 03:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm still finding it had to understand all these centuries old territorial disputes in south america. I think it must have something to do with standing on the sidelines in two world wars, millions of deaths seem to put a downer on demanding territory. shed any light on it Condorito?
Digressing is good, we are all here to debate :).
11 Cornish
Aug 03rd, 2012 - 06:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In the beginning there was peace and harmony.
Then humans arrived and settled the continent from the jungles to the deserts to the frozen tip of Patagonia.
They were hunter gatherers. About 5000 years ago the Peruvian peoples started farming and moving up the technology tree, spawning many great civilizations who subjugated their neighbours.
Then Pizarro arrived with steel, gun powder, books and germs. The Spanish took the whole continent for themselves, except for the bit the Pope kindly gave to Portugal. The Spanish broke the continent in to administrative regions, each with their own governors. The distances, the logistics and the ambitions of local elites meant that the regions began to grow apart; each developing their own local traditions, cuisine and dialect, not to mention the influence of the different indigenous peoples on each region.
By 18 hundred when the independence movements got underway, the national outlines already existed, but without clear territorial limits. So right from day 1 of nationhood the borders were sketchy.
Most disputes have now been resolved. I think (not sure) that only Argentina (claiming FI) and Venezuela (claiming part of Guyana) have unresolved issues.
sounds like a plan
Aug 04th, 2012 - 07:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Not a even a squeak from the fat Venezuelan clown about this? Funny that.
Aug 05th, 2012 - 09:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 014.
Aug 06th, 2012 - 04:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Squeak!
dadaa!
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