MercoPress. South Atlantic News Agency
Chile expects a 30% increase in cruise vessel calls this 2012/13 season
Chile is expecting an increase of 30% in the number of cruise vessels calls this coming season with Puerto Montt and Punta Arenas receiving the most, said the country’s Under Secretary for Tourism Jacqueline Plass. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesI am not sure how this got onto the FI page as FI are not mentioned but I am sure that the latest Argentine moves against UK/FI flagged vessels will square the circle.
Aug 04th, 2012 - 11:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“the perception that Chile is a serious country, a country in which they can rely”.
This just about sums it up for me. Although Chile do no bare the cross that Argentina does.
no doubt Argentinas cruise industry will shrink 30% due to a bad case of “cutting ones nose off to spite the face” , theres more than one port in the sea!
Aug 05th, 2012 - 12:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0@2
Aug 05th, 2012 - 03:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0And that's where you miscalculate your knowledge. Argentina's cruise industry will not shrink, UK operated cruise business will shrink.
Why?
People that come to South America for cruises, which is a minority of the business compared to European and Caribbean cruises, don't exactly expect their cruise lines to “skip” Buenos Aires, Mar del Plata, Puerto Madryn and the Valdez Peninsula, Ushuaia, because the UK government has problems with Argentina.
They expect the cruise to lower the British flag, put up a French flag, or German, or Spanish flag, get on with it and give them what they paid for. Not to mention most people that travel to South America tend to be world savvy and not jingoist blownhorns spewing talking points, so they generally won't side with the UK 100% (though they may agree, they won't hold the belligerent and hateful views of most of you here).
In short, if cruise ships did ever skip Argentina and only did Brazil and Chile, you would see massive drops in people booking such packages. They will seek other ways to see whatever they want to see.
@3 Truth_Telling_Troll (#)
Aug 05th, 2012 - 07:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0Aug 05th, 2012 - 03:40 am
Right you are. My mistake.
So what is there to see in BA....?
Aug 05th, 2012 - 08:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0La Boca.... watch you don't get robbed getting there or away...
A cementery.... wow...
One fancy shopping arcade with a mural on the roof..... good oh...
and of course one can visit the Maldives memorial..... take care no-one sticks a knife in you....
OK TiT over to you... what else does BA have to offer??
Punters on the cruise liners down there are looking to see the Falklands, South Georgia, Chilean Antarctica and the Chilean channels......
suck it down sunshine....
3 You're trying to second guess what we like and failing miserably. I have no idea whether Chile or Brazil will continue to take Argentina's cruise business but I know that visiting, what is presumably your top attraction “Buenos Aires” isn't considered that important.
Aug 05th, 2012 - 08:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0Cruise liners typically spend a single day in port ... so no time to get beyond the ones I have mentioned.....
Aug 05th, 2012 - 08:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0#5
Aug 05th, 2012 - 02:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As an American I disagree with most all of the Argentines in this blog. But really, there is nothing in BA to see? The architecture, museums, opera house....even the old theater converted in a bookstore on Santa Fe. The stores in Puerto Madero are cool. I've been to La Boca, Carminito ST.....the shops are great. I'll give you that I will pass going there at night, but then again I would not walk around in Harlem at night in NYC. If you don't know what to do in BA it's because:
1- You have never been there
2-you are a pub crawler seeking a Guiness
3-You lack culture, because it is there in BA
4-All of the above
I love it everytime I am in BA. I have issues....most are cultural so I learn to adapt. The natural course of event will lead to change in Argentina in due time.
I don't think catering to the top 10% wealthiest travelers could be more lucrative then fishing Antartica. With Chinas consumer demand growing and the war against hunger being lost in many nations. It is a sure thing to bid on fishing over tourism. 90% of the population has to eat while not even 10% gets to travel on a ship. You guys are the brains here why doesn't anyone do the math.
Aug 05th, 2012 - 05:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#8 this is why you shouldn't go to Argentina or Islas Malvinas, if what you stated is true hopefully the illlegal aliens in Islas Malvinas Argentina will go home to UK soon, but somehow I know 3000 british that love Argentina beyond their mother land, unfortunately they have no say because they are illegal aliens occupying foreign land.
I go to Argentina twice a year. If they are illegal, do something. If it's your island .....do something more than whine. If it's your island....take it back. It isn't wealthy people that take cruises unless your definition of wealthy is quite low. 96% earn less then 100k and thats far from wealthy.
Aug 05th, 2012 - 06:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Check your numbers again turism is a seasonal market and it caters to the 10% of the world population who make more then 10.000 a year. While fishing is an all year activity feeding 90% of the world population who make at least 1$ a day. Or how else do you think the british illegal aliens can afford to theft our oil in Malvinas Argentina. Illegal fishing and theft of resources.
Aug 05th, 2012 - 07:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0perhaps 10% of your population make more than 10,000 a year and classed as wealthy.As for the Falklanders......do something or stop whining it's mine it's mine
Aug 05th, 2012 - 08:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@5
Aug 05th, 2012 - 09:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/olympics/9445109/London-2012-Olympics-key-police-security-hub-evacuated-after-sewage-leak.html
Can't make this stuff up... the more you try to denigrate my country, the more this shit (oops... sorry) happens!!
Keep it up!!
And another mass shooting in an anglo-saxon country. It is really hard to believe anymore...
I hear the national museum of corruption in Argentina is well worth the visit, its building was financed entirely by laundered tax dollars.....
Aug 05th, 2012 - 09:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Reasons to visit London:
Aug 05th, 2012 - 09:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Voted worst dressed city in Europe
Voted worst city for food in Europe
Voted dirtiest city in Europe
Voted 2nd most overrated city in Europe after Paris
If you want to see a society in full denial on how the rest of the world perceives them, go to London!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/04/tripadvisor-polls-paris-v_n_195986.html
The only thing that won't be overrated is your disappointment. :)
it is hard to believe troll. I can see you smiling over death.
Aug 05th, 2012 - 09:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0More promising news for our closest trade partner and friend Chile.
Aug 05th, 2012 - 09:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0TiT
Not sure what it's got to do with this story at all (like most of your posts of late) but keep pointing out all of the UK's blemishes if it satisfies you but frankly, who cares. I still choose it over Argentina as the seat of my head of state. Not that you care but maybe some of the Malvinistas read your posts.
Malivinstas
We're still in the Falklands, we're about to hold a referendum to confirm to the world our desire, our economy is booming, there's a little over 3,000 of us but Argentina has 0 options to do a single thing about it. All your government can do is try some lame embargoes and try to spread propaganda around the place. You need to get rid of CFK and her cronies before she destroys what little credibility you have left.
Chuckle chuckle
@8 if you are there on a cruise liner you have 12 hours....max..... not 12 days
Aug 05th, 2012 - 09:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 015 seeing as I don't live in London I couldn't give a monkeys.....
Aug 05th, 2012 - 10:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 02 trade union members at a bus stop in BA....One says to the other...“Hey amigo do you know when the next strike is due”.
The lonely planet travel guide says the tomb of the unknown incompetent worker in central BA is spectacular example of why Argentines should never be allowed to run public work projects.......
@13 Truth_Telling_Troll (#) Aug 05th, 2012 - 09:10 pm
Aug 05th, 2012 - 11:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yeah. We evacuated the place and dealt with it. A Malvinista would have just sat in it and blamed the UK.
@20 Furry-Fat-Feck (#)
Aug 05th, 2012 - 11:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Aug 05th, 2012 - 11:18 pm
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And it is still be utterly irrelevant to the Malvinista cause.
Buenos Aires and Rio are the most fantastic citys in south america. Unless you are into incest and marrying your cousins. In that case i would suggest Port stanley.
Aug 06th, 2012 - 12:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yes and your point is #8? I was responding to someone saying that there is not to see in BA. Despite the Brits on this blogs hatred for Argentina, there aer things to see and there is culture.
Aug 06th, 2012 - 12:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0@16
Aug 06th, 2012 - 12:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0Certainly completely ungrounded libel. But even if it were true... in a lurid way I showed MORE concern than the 310 million people that live in the USA.
Because the worst thing one can do is to not give a F”-#k! about it whatsoever. Americans just let this shit happen on a DAILY basis, and you see nothing... no protests, no cries for action, no citizen action groups, no private iniciatives, no government action... that is utterly pathetic.
@23 ... I was actually seeking a response from #24 but he has wandered off at a tangent yet again.....
Aug 06th, 2012 - 03:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0PS I am not a brit......
Troll Frank is correct you are digressing, but really, what do you think banging pots in the street is going to accomplish? No govt can take any type of action that will identify mentally ill people. Typically you see candlelight vigils for the dead. Stay on target and focus troll
Aug 06th, 2012 - 10:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina will fail. the UK has little problem with Argentina. Argentina do have a problem with UK however. UK seek peaceful relations. Argentina just want to convince them self's that they own a small chain of islands in the south Atlantic would be colonist nation. they talking to the wrong people anyway. FI government control the Falklands destiny not the UK
Aug 06th, 2012 - 03:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Successful business is down to sta-bi-li-ty and con-sis-ten-cy and rel-ia-bil-ity...something which unfortunately Argentina misses out on completely. The tourism industry plans and operates in cycles of up to 5 years ahead! Yes 5 years ahead!
Aug 06th, 2012 - 05:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#27 illegal aliens can deside to be legal or go back home ASAP, british have desided to go back to UK and Argentina supports their right to self determination in UK, in Argentina illegal aliens have no rights but those given by Argentina. Maybe we Argentines have the same rights to move in and stay in UK but UK doesn't recognize our rights to self determination so neither do we accept british illegal aliens in Islas malvinas Argentina. We will not stand for racist and bias international laws. Maybe they can do it to latins, muslims or gypsys but we Argentines will meassure this bastards with the same rod. Do to other as they done to you this way everyone can enjoy the same treatment and value reciprocal actions.
Aug 06th, 2012 - 05:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Can one of you Argentines here please give me a rational and logical reason why you think the Falkland's are your? Please don't go with it's off your coast. You have not occupied nor controlled it in 179 years. When you tried to, the outcome was not a success. So please explain why you all thinks it's your's. I believe you are all blindly following the trumpet of KFC to distract the soaring inflation. By the way.......anyone take the subte to work today?
Aug 06th, 2012 - 06:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Islas Malvinas had a governor Luis vernet appointed by Argentina, fakland island holdings is a corporate from UK as coca-cola is a corporation. British illegal aliens had and have no rights in our land unless the UK wants us Argentine's to take property from British owners in Latin America and threaten them with weapons and armed militias taking our land back from foreigners by force as the illegal aliens done in Islas malvinas Argentina over 100 years ago.
Aug 06th, 2012 - 06:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am really seeking a explaination to the claim to the Faklands by Argentina. BTW PH.....it's 179 years years that Argentina was evicted for squating after the British returned after being evicted from the USA.
Aug 06th, 2012 - 06:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#32 Argentine's will also like an explanation for UK to claim Islas Malvinas Argentina by a group of british illegal aliens. Fakland holding piracy is at the end of their thieving years. Look at a map and all questions will become, sea mines can end all illegal aliens presence from our land.
Aug 06th, 2012 - 07:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0PH So then ask a brit, don't ask me. Sea mines.......at least you are not longer going to build a nuclear bomb with pesos......pheeeewww! However, I thank having control of the island for 179 years is pretty strong it is British. 1982 Argentina was slapped around pretty good and not the first in the Falklands history.
Aug 06th, 2012 - 08:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So shall I assume by your statement “look at a map” you are implying proximity trumps control? I think it's time the USA tells the Castro twins it's time to move, Cuba belongs to the USA......90 (144km) because.....I mean it's so close. As I continue to apply the proximity rule, Bahamas.....no more country USA. Let me get a map and finish what really belongs to the USA.
Pirate Bummer, besides getting taken by 14 strong men twice your size, you did notice we have these wonderful contraptions called mine sweepers, somewhat puts the kaibar on your plan to destroy the Falklands Islands company....
Aug 06th, 2012 - 09:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0On yes, you did know that FIC is a land based operation tee hee, it might be a bit hard to bring them to their knees with mines designed solely for blowing up ships.
CP...I guess after getting taken by 14 strong men twice his size Pirate man-lover might be a little put of by phalic shaped objects....
This guy makes rediculous statements and can't suport them with facts......like KFC
Aug 06th, 2012 - 09:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#33
Aug 06th, 2012 - 10:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Do you mean sea mines or land mines ? Argentina signed the convention to ban land mines in 1997 - it's a pity they didn't take these with them when they scattered them all over the Falkands.
If you remember the Iraq war and the mines the Iraqis laid in Kuwait and the Shatt-el arab waterway, it was the Royal Navy who were tasked to clear this area because of their special expertise.
NOT ONLY CAN WE CLEAR THEM, BUT WE ARE ALSO GOOD AT MAKING THEM AND LAYING THEM !
If I remember correctly Buenos Aires is a large port and there are also many more along your seaboard. Laying mines here should not be too difficult.
Remember the old adage “Sow the wind and reap the whirlwind ”
26 Captain Poppy... I hope you were meaning to say
Aug 07th, 2012 - 03:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0'Troll , Frank is correct you are digressing'.....
Having family there your view of BA would be quite different to mine which is different again to the view of my doctor's niece who is a 25 year old expat schoolteacher there and reckons its 'party central'.
And yes I have spent some time in BA, no I have never been in a Guiness pub there... haven't been in any sort of bar actually.... restaurants yes.. bars no... culture.... some would say I'm not all that cultured but can't win em all....
Yes there are some lovely old buildings there... in the main surrounded by dross....
Still waiting for TiT to get back on topic and answer my original question....
Tigre is nice if a bit forlorn.... I guess the cruising punters could take a Mitre line train out there for the day... then again maybe not....
I meant “frank is correct, Troll you are digressing”
Aug 07th, 2012 - 10:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0Anybody else notice that Pirat-Hunter is possibly just a 'bot that regurgitates key phrases from the CFK regime?
Aug 07th, 2012 - 10:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Its why “its” post make so little sense.
TTT on the other hand cannot use the “I'm not actual human” for his/her excuse.
Buenos Aires has totally lost it's lustre. Years ago, Buenos Aires was an exciting destination, tourists would come to eat the famous beef and buy silver jewelry and leather coats, bags, go to see a Tango show.......fast forward 10 years, the beef is no longer any good or any better than anywhere else in the world as all of the cows are now on feedlot, no more grass fed beef from the open pampas, all of it gets exported. Silver jewelry, and leather goods now cost as much or more than in New York! And at least 2/3 of the Tango shows have shut down, people don't really go much because of the poor quality of the show, the ridiculously high prices, and the bad food and miserable service. Buenos Aires has taken a real nosedive in the past decade, everything is in decline, crime out of control, a basic lunch is around $20 dollars and even the Argentines are fed up with the government. Things have to bottom out here and the government needs to disappear and take their uncontrollable corruption with them to the bottom of the ocean!.......http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyPC0SD0PGw
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#41 So Cristina has even ruined the tango for you?! Well you know what they say, it takes two to tango...
Aug 09th, 2012 - 03:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0#37 for all the reason you mention I support the right of Argentina to build a nuclear defense program, sea mines are probably a better solution to eliminate the british pirates from fishing our seas. Even a reward for sinking illegal fishing boats will go a long way to eliminate illegal activity in Islas Malvinas Argentina. British can file a complaint in london for not protecting their rights to self determination in UK.
Aug 11th, 2012 - 07:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The world powers that be frown on any new nuclear defenses. You missed the ship when that boat was boarding. In the next twelve months.......watch Iran closely, as it is transformed from sand into a glass bowl.
Aug 11th, 2012 - 09:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Then......think of Argentina and the nuclear expertise she is thinking of purchasing from China. If you think the USA waivers because China buys our debt, don't kid yourself.
#44
Aug 11th, 2012 - 10:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Please read ALL of my post at #37. What kind of mines are you going to lay and how many? You would probably need to lay about 100,000 to effectively deny the S. Atlantic to sea traffic. So how do your ships reach your ports? Remember, mines cannot differentiate between pirates and friendly vessels. Considering how your lot laid the land mines on the Falklands, you would probably have no idea where you put them .
At present, your navy could not launch plastic ducks in a bath !
If you start sinking fishing vessels then you will get a couple of cruise missiles where it hurts.
I can see why you went to Canada. They are friendly and a sympathetic people who tolerate lunatics like you.
@44
Aug 11th, 2012 - 11:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The country you live in supports the Falkland Islanders right to self-determination.
What will you do if Canada invests in oil around the Falkland Islands, hunted pirate?
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