An international controversy has surfaced between President Hugo Chavez and Paraguayan senators as to who really tried to bribe whom regarding failed attempts to have Venezuela incorporated to Mercosur. Read full article
Nothing was achieved since a bunch of extreme right Paraguayan Senators, instruments of the US empire, wanted millions of dollars for their vote, but I couldn’t permit extortion of Venezuela to prosper, and did not yield”, according to Chavez.
keep spouting that shit its gonna do youre trade block (military block, politicall block) lots of good
He added he told the Senators that “the time will come and the time came for the decent inclusion of Venezuela to Mercosur by the front door with no tricks”.
In the end it comes down to who you believe more, the hero Chavez or the oligarchic (and in the case of General Oviedo, outright fascistic) Paraguyan Senators. Plus if he initiated the bribe attempts why would Chavez bring it up again now, it seems MUCH more likely that this is a case of defence by attack by the rattled corrupt oligarchs
4 British_Kirchnerist. Really what planet do you live on kirch?, next you'll be tell us the fact that hugo pulled out of that human rights accord was for the benefit of the people?. God marxist's are silly people!.
I guess the more money you get in Paraguay the less corrupt you are, I wonder how much money US gives them to vote against Venezuela and hurt the progress in mercosur, i could never understand Paraguay objection to the unity of mercosur and i don't think neither did Brazil, nor Argentina nor Uruguay could understand it neither, I am glad this happened hopefuly Paraguay learns a lesson and everyone else as well.....
”Nothing was achieved since a bunch of extreme right Paraguayan Senators, instruments of the US empire, wanted millions of dollars for their vote, but I couldn’t permit extortion of Venezuela to prosper, and did not yield”, according to Chavez.
He added he told the Senators that “the time will come and the time came for the decent inclusion of Venezuela to Mercosur by the front door with no tricks”
Hahaha Forgetit!!!
That's hilarious!! I'm sure they have a good explanation for that one :)
cornish, we are from Tellus, planet earth, compañero BK and me, we come in peace :)
Argentina Venezuela Uruguay Ecuador Bolivia are going Bolivarian (communist) take a look at the pathetic economic model they are pursuing t he ignorance of the people are incredible (Populist government) they will consume all their wealth and then when there is nothing to consume anymore the right wing governments will come back and clean the mess the morons of the left created, just the way it happened in Chile! Ha-ha.
I would like to point out Simón Bolívar was a conservative republician, so Hugo Chávez left-wing ideology hasn't really got anything to do with Bolivar. (But hey who needs facts when your almost a dictator!).
It is a little sad some south american countries are backsliding into a outdated economic system :/
Apart from being a pinko commie, Chávez is also a nationalist and a pan-Latin Americanist. That's one of the reasons that he has taken up Bolívar as an icon against foreign influence on Latin America.
The Bolivian Constitution had a lifelong presidency and a hereditary senate, essentially recreating the British unwritten constitution, as it existed at the time, without formally establishing a monarchy. It was his attempts to implement a similar constitution in Gran Colombia that led to his downfall and rejection by 1830. (sorry its wiki)
Lifelong presidency, well now we know where good old Hugo got the idea!.
12 Forgetit86. Do intelligent south americans not see that Mr Chavez is turning Venezuela into a totalitarian state?.
LOL why Europeans and westerners here commenting on economic models and the rights and wrong when their own house is in austerity riddled heaven. Maybe poverty and trash is clogging their gray matter. We are fortunate to unite with our neighbors and lucky to be far from white trash economic and political ideals.
# 10 maybe Uruguay is in the first stages of “The Bolivarian Revolution”
In Venezuela Bolivia Ecuador they are going communist of course they cannot use the word communism because is pejorative so they use the slogan Bolivarian revolution the socialism of the 21st century they confiscate private properties (around 330 companies in Venezuela along in 2011) just one in Bolivia yesterday, YPF in Argentina, remember Cuba? They did not confiscate any companies (yes communism is a fancy word it just sound fancy) it sound terrifying.
In Brazil Worker party is in power let me see that is not a communist name.
Mujica in his first speech after the inclusion of Venezuela to the Mercoleft I quote him “We need new rules so the workers will have something to said in Mercosur) you can see these leaders they are using all the key word, the first rule will be I suppose “if you disobey us will confiscate your company”
The state is becoming the sole provider of all the need’s for the masses they can think for themselves they control the media (Check Ecuador and check Argentina) In Ecuador they levy heavy fines if you disagree with Correa in Argentina they confiscated all the rights from private companies to broadcast soccer games (The opium of the people in Argentina) In Venezuela there is no independent media?
If you can see that in what planet are you leaving in?
The economic model is not sustainable take a look at Europe? You think you are lucky? Heavy taxes and massive taxes and social program for the masses that encouraged staying home. Yes we are lucky to emulate this model.
This model bankrupted Europe!
Come home Pirat-Hunter, how can you go on living in the degenerate British controlled Canada. Come home and give us the benefit of your exceptional scientific knowledge about nuclear defense systems and hydrogen bombs, and gays, and pirats, and stealth mines.
Come home Pirat-Hunter, you are wasted in Canada we need you in Argentina!!!!
#15 no austerity in latin America. How is europe holding up?? Don't you think USA and UK should fix their problems first rather then trying to tell everyone what to do?? Take theology of your own eye to see better the speck in my eye.
#16 I am home I am a native american it is the white trash who has to go back home to europe, and they will have to go as soon as they start droping like flys in America, why don't you get on your feet and expelled britsh from from Argentina. The British embassy would be a good start.
Chavez did pay off the politicians, but they just said, we want more, and he gave more, and then they said we need more...Paraguay's corruption can frustrate the best of them.
#4 BK - You know nothing about Paraguay and its politics. When you do some corruption in Paraguay the one that pays always offers first. The Paraguayan government has nothing to loose by waiting. The Senate had the power and so they waited and waited for Hugo to pay, which he did to several of the parties. WE ALL KNOW he paid and we all know the Senate was taking advantage of it. Hugo is a dirty politician, just like most of the Paraguayan Senate.
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Aug 04th, 2012 - 01:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He's a card this hugo.
These Paraguayans are quite amusing, was it Chavez, his brother, another brother or a member of the congress???
Aug 04th, 2012 - 02:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nothing was achieved since a bunch of extreme right Paraguayan Senators, instruments of the US empire, wanted millions of dollars for their vote, but I couldn’t permit extortion of Venezuela to prosper, and did not yield”, according to Chavez.
Aug 04th, 2012 - 03:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0keep spouting that shit its gonna do youre trade block (military block, politicall block) lots of good
He added he told the Senators that “the time will come and the time came for the decent inclusion of Venezuela to Mercosur by the front door with no tricks”.
lol!!!
In the end it comes down to who you believe more, the hero Chavez or the oligarchic (and in the case of General Oviedo, outright fascistic) Paraguyan Senators. Plus if he initiated the bribe attempts why would Chavez bring it up again now, it seems MUCH more likely that this is a case of defence by attack by the rattled corrupt oligarchs
Aug 04th, 2012 - 05:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 04 British_Kirchnerist. Really what planet do you live on kirch?, next you'll be tell us the fact that hugo pulled out of that human rights accord was for the benefit of the people?. God marxist's are silly people!.
Aug 04th, 2012 - 06:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I guess the more money you get in Paraguay the less corrupt you are, I wonder how much money US gives them to vote against Venezuela and hurt the progress in mercosur, i could never understand Paraguay objection to the unity of mercosur and i don't think neither did Brazil, nor Argentina nor Uruguay could understand it neither, I am glad this happened hopefuly Paraguay learns a lesson and everyone else as well.....
Aug 04th, 2012 - 09:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0”Nothing was achieved since a bunch of extreme right Paraguayan Senators, instruments of the US empire, wanted millions of dollars for their vote, but I couldn’t permit extortion of Venezuela to prosper, and did not yield”, according to Chavez.
He added he told the Senators that “the time will come and the time came for the decent inclusion of Venezuela to Mercosur by the front door with no tricks”
Perhaps Chávez can call Mercopress's chief editor to testify in his favour.
Aug 04th, 2012 - 11:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://en.mercopress.com/2011/02/05/paraguayan-congress-puts-price-to-venezuela-s-mercosur-incorporation
Hahaha Forgetit!!!
Aug 04th, 2012 - 11:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That's hilarious!! I'm sure they have a good explanation for that one :)
cornish, we are from Tellus, planet earth, compañero BK and me, we come in peace :)
Argentina Venezuela Uruguay Ecuador Bolivia are going Bolivarian (communist) take a look at the pathetic economic model they are pursuing t he ignorance of the people are incredible (Populist government) they will consume all their wealth and then when there is nothing to consume anymore the right wing governments will come back and clean the mess the morons of the left created, just the way it happened in Chile! Ha-ha.
Aug 05th, 2012 - 03:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Uruguay = Bolivarian = Communism???
Aug 05th, 2012 - 04:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You even know what communism is, or are you just spitting words because they sound fancy?
I would like to point out Simón Bolívar was a conservative republician, so Hugo Chávez left-wing ideology hasn't really got anything to do with Bolivar. (But hey who needs facts when your almost a dictator!).
Aug 05th, 2012 - 04:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is a little sad some south american countries are backsliding into a outdated economic system :/
Apart from being a pinko commie, Chávez is also a nationalist and a pan-Latin Americanist. That's one of the reasons that he has taken up Bolívar as an icon against foreign influence on Latin America.
Aug 05th, 2012 - 05:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Bolivian Constitution had a lifelong presidency and a hereditary senate, essentially recreating the British unwritten constitution, as it existed at the time, without formally establishing a monarchy. It was his attempts to implement a similar constitution in Gran Colombia that led to his downfall and rejection by 1830. (sorry its wiki)
Aug 05th, 2012 - 05:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Lifelong presidency, well now we know where good old Hugo got the idea!.
12 Forgetit86. Do intelligent south americans not see that Mr Chavez is turning Venezuela into a totalitarian state?.
LOL why Europeans and westerners here commenting on economic models and the rights and wrong when their own house is in austerity riddled heaven. Maybe poverty and trash is clogging their gray matter. We are fortunate to unite with our neighbors and lucky to be far from white trash economic and political ideals.
Aug 05th, 2012 - 05:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0# 10 maybe Uruguay is in the first stages of “The Bolivarian Revolution”
Aug 05th, 2012 - 11:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In Venezuela Bolivia Ecuador they are going communist of course they cannot use the word communism because is pejorative so they use the slogan Bolivarian revolution the socialism of the 21st century they confiscate private properties (around 330 companies in Venezuela along in 2011) just one in Bolivia yesterday, YPF in Argentina, remember Cuba? They did not confiscate any companies (yes communism is a fancy word it just sound fancy) it sound terrifying.
In Brazil Worker party is in power let me see that is not a communist name.
Mujica in his first speech after the inclusion of Venezuela to the Mercoleft I quote him “We need new rules so the workers will have something to said in Mercosur) you can see these leaders they are using all the key word, the first rule will be I suppose “if you disobey us will confiscate your company”
The state is becoming the sole provider of all the need’s for the masses they can think for themselves they control the media (Check Ecuador and check Argentina) In Ecuador they levy heavy fines if you disagree with Correa in Argentina they confiscated all the rights from private companies to broadcast soccer games (The opium of the people in Argentina) In Venezuela there is no independent media?
If you can see that in what planet are you leaving in?
The economic model is not sustainable take a look at Europe? You think you are lucky? Heavy taxes and massive taxes and social program for the masses that encouraged staying home. Yes we are lucky to emulate this model.
This model bankrupted Europe!
14 Pirat-Hunter (#)
Aug 06th, 2012 - 01:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Come home Pirat-Hunter, how can you go on living in the degenerate British controlled Canada. Come home and give us the benefit of your exceptional scientific knowledge about nuclear defense systems and hydrogen bombs, and gays, and pirats, and stealth mines.
Come home Pirat-Hunter, you are wasted in Canada we need you in Argentina!!!!
#15 no austerity in latin America. How is europe holding up?? Don't you think USA and UK should fix their problems first rather then trying to tell everyone what to do?? Take theology of your own eye to see better the speck in my eye.
Aug 06th, 2012 - 06:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#16 I am home I am a native american it is the white trash who has to go back home to europe, and they will have to go as soon as they start droping like flys in America, why don't you get on your feet and expelled britsh from from Argentina. The British embassy would be a good start.
Chavez did pay off the politicians, but they just said, we want more, and he gave more, and then they said we need more...Paraguay's corruption can frustrate the best of them.
Aug 09th, 2012 - 01:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0#4 BK - You know nothing about Paraguay and its politics. When you do some corruption in Paraguay the one that pays always offers first. The Paraguayan government has nothing to loose by waiting. The Senate had the power and so they waited and waited for Hugo to pay, which he did to several of the parties. WE ALL KNOW he paid and we all know the Senate was taking advantage of it. Hugo is a dirty politician, just like most of the Paraguayan Senate.
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