MercoPress. South Atlantic News Agency
Uruguay reacts with silence to repeated Argentine provocations
The Uruguayan government said on Monday there will be no public statements on the latest “situations” with Argentina, and Uruguay will keep to what was agreed at presidential level during the last (31 July) Mercosur extraordinary meeting in Brasilia. Read full article
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Aug 07th, 2012 - 10:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0Just get on with dredging it and ignore Argentina. What are they going to do? Send their navy up the river to stop it??
Aug 07th, 2012 - 10:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0@2
Aug 07th, 2012 - 12:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are missing the point.
As long as Timmidman holds out, it increases the liklihood, almost to a certainty, that Riovia will be handed a further 'extension' to keep the Argie channels open and ensure the bribes paid to the Argie government keep pace.
As usual, Uruguay will suffer because of their southern friends.
Love thy neighbour and all that, Latino style.
Aug 07th, 2012 - 12:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Come on Pepe, everybody knows you're a good guy, but this is too much!
Aug 07th, 2012 - 01:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's time to tell the MBOA to take a running jump at herself and contract a dredger of your own.
Kretina's only interest is the destruction of Uruguay's oil seed production because you're competing with her's and she doesn't like competition of any sort!!!!!
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Aug 07th, 2012 - 01:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Typical Brit, when you can't get your way, use violence and break treaties. Basically sums up your entire history.
He's smitten with the two ladies north & south of him ! I'd say the vice prez has more balls than Pepe to stick his 2 fingers up !
Aug 07th, 2012 - 01:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Poor, poor Uruguay. Whyever did you choose a frightened, senile, old man to be your “leader”? Just to correct the trend of the article, “Pepe” doesn't have a policy of “conciliation”. It's actually appeasement. “Pepe” is “doing a Chamberlain”. A very sad chapter in British history. Giving a power-mad, lunatic dictator anything he wanted in order to have “peace”. Except that he didn't get peace. He got a war. Thank God we had Winston. But how far will “Pepe” go? He's already gone too far. What's the matter with him? He has right and international law on his side. The relevant treaty gives him the right to take argieland to the ICJ. Why isn't he doing it? If the poor to**er can't respond properly to a woman, how's he going to get on facing up to Chavez? Uruguayans should be very scared about where “Pepe” is taking them. How can a supposed “leader” watch his country's assets being stifled to the detriment of the country as a whole? Mujica needs to get some balls or just get out so that someone with guts can dig Uruguay out of the mire. Let's look at some of the things that Uruguay has “put up with”. A 6-year fight for a pulp mill where any “fault” was argieland's. Blocking of international bridges by argies. Argie theft of millions by refusing to buy back it's currency exchanged, in good faith, by Uruguay. And now the attempt to destroy Uruguay's ports by allowing the access and exit channel to be blocked by argie ploys. Why does “Pepe” run to CFK? CFK doesn't give a toss about argies, why would she have any concerns about Uruguayans? A simple message for Uruguayans: Get up off your bellies! And don't stop when you have made it to your knees! Go the whole hog and get up on your feet! Refuse to be cowed! Perhaps you could seek some real “friends”! You can see how much you are “valued” by your argie “friends”. Think hard about who is not being cowed!
Aug 07th, 2012 - 01:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Pay no attention to TiT. He's scared. Argies are breaking the treaties. As always.
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Aug 07th, 2012 - 01:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Pot calling kettle ?
Lets takethese alle gations 1 by 1 The smuugling case . An action was brought against SIXTY different embassies and involved the importof around 300 cars and went to the Argentine Supreme Court, where on the 22nd May the case was closed (archivado). Timmerman now wants the case reopened and ambassador Bustillos diplomatic immunity lifted so that he can be hauled before RG justice(?) Logically Timmerman shouls also ask for the diplomatic immunity of the Fifty Nine ambassadors and consuls to be lifted so that they may also be put in the dock. Well logic never was Timermans strong point More later on the other two accusations. If Pepe lifts Bustillos immunity he may be compared to Herod who handed John the Baptist to the dancer Salome on a plate at her request
Aug 07th, 2012 - 01:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@6 sounds like a tactic used by the Argentines when they invaded the Falklands. You want to drag up history...tell us about the conquest of the desert an act of genocide on the indigenous people of the patagonia by the Argentines slaughtering hundreds of thousands of men women and children in 1870 for their land, Argentina even celebrate the act on their 100 peso bill, or a more recent history “Death flights” a terror tactic invented by the peronist in 1970s by throwing people from aircraft over the sea by the thousands for those who opposed the regime, or the disappearance of thousands of babies from non conforming parents all disgusting acts and only 36 years ago so dont dis britain when your history is so horrific and recent.
Aug 07th, 2012 - 02:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We ALL have history some wish to select theirs, dont you?
Accusation UPM papermill. Timmeran is either deliberately fabricating facts or in completely out of touch with his own representatives on CARU. Yes the export ofmore than 1m tons of wood products of forestry products from UPM was agreed under the ICJ judgement unlessotherwise agreed by the parties. Also agreed was that the RG monitoring team should have unrestricted access to the plant and they have carried out more than a dozen inspections. UPM has made a request to increase the tonnage and this has been passed to CARU. The Argentine delegates are now sitting on the request. The same delegates have also refused to release the pollution figures of the Rio Uruguay as agreed by the ICJ. Why? You can bet that if it was Uruguay were polluting the river the eldritch shrieks from the Buenos Aires coven would reach the stratosphere . Could it be that they are the ones whoare responsible for pollution?
Aug 07th, 2012 - 02:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 06 Truth_Telling_Troll
Aug 07th, 2012 - 02:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What a stupid comment - even for you.
Where did I mention violence and how can Argentina possibly be considered to be abiding by the treaty?
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Aug 07th, 2012 - 03:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He is doing what he typically does. Disgress, make an unsupported statement....than, if all else fails, make a senseless rheotorical statement. He's like a antagonist, perhaps a catalyst is a better word. But most pay him no mind, he is quite harmless.......like a whale shark.
12 redpoll (#)
Aug 07th, 2012 - 03:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Correct me if I'm wrong, redpoll, but I understand that the point of contamination is the Gualyguachu main drainage system.
If this is true then the pollution is produced by the very people who a vociferrously protesting about it!!!!
15 Simon. I suspect you are right but as Argentina refuses to publish the figures one draws the neccesary conclusions
Aug 07th, 2012 - 04:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This has gone so far past absurd. I can't wait til Argentina IMPLODES next year, they deserve it. Absolute worst country on the planet, they make North Korea and Iran look decent. Enjoy fighting in the streets for scraps of bread, ArgTards, you deserve it, you're truly pieces of human sh*t. Hope someone murders Christina or that she gets thrown in prison for life after the coming argentine Great Depression is over.
Aug 07th, 2012 - 05:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's time for Uruguay to allow Britain to set up military bases in Uruguay, and launch strikes on ArgTards.
Aug 07th, 2012 - 05:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Where's Guzz? Surely this will rock his world? I thought he said that Argentina and Uruguay love each other, and that he loved them both? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha......nob!
Aug 07th, 2012 - 06:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@18
Aug 07th, 2012 - 06:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I would be VERY comfortable with that.
@18Thanks but no thanks. Uruguay has never voluntarily had foriegn troops stationed on her soil. Any whiff of that and the RGs would be in like Flynn here tomorrow and poor old Pepe would be consigned to a “psychiatric” hospital in Tierra del Fuego. In any case a lot of logistical support,particularly medical care was provided by ROU in the 1982 conflict
Aug 07th, 2012 - 07:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@20 Chris I would be VERY uncomfortable with that
Problem with the river is that it is shared and more important for Uruguay than for Argentina. More important than the drainge is what forces are creating the problems... Squeak all you want, oh pink ones, border issues will always exist.
Aug 07th, 2012 - 08:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Come off it Guzz. We may disagree but our country has no border issues with anyone, but they do with us. Arent you ashamed about how our democratic institutions are completely ignored by BA and co and we just sit there and give in?
Aug 07th, 2012 - 08:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@2 Idlehands
Aug 07th, 2012 - 08:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Too right. The delay is an effective blockade.
Get some company to begin dredging, a uruguayan company, pay them yourselves, short term contract and when the argentine legal tussle is ended carry on as you both see fit.
That's not the problem. The river is shared, so are the benefits of a dredging. In Uruguay's case it's more important, where Argentina uses the Paraná. It's a minor economical issue. We need to concentrate on the deep sea port as a long term solution.
Aug 07th, 2012 - 09:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@21 I bow to your experience.
Aug 07th, 2012 - 09:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@25 I agree, this IS the key. I wonder if the drawings have gone to the Chin yet?
One has to think, that CFK is intimidating President (Jose) Mujica
Aug 07th, 2012 - 10:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Or at worse, she is perhaps thinking he is a fool,
She is but a bully who intends to get her own way, and with hugo in tow, hopes intimidation will work,
Perhaps mr mujica, should consider looking elsewhere for help, and new partners,
Im sure the Americans or brits would consider any request.
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@25 Would agree Guzz, but his has been talked about for years and nothing is done.Butalso adequate infrastructure for any such port needs to be put in, including a modern cross country rail connection. In spite of don Pepes undoubted enthusiasm for recuperating parts of the existing semi-derelict rail system, the political directorate of AFE seems to be powerless and kowtows to the 1,020 old buffers, most of whom are pushing sixty and still think in terms of the 1950s overmanned systems of operation. So I say : Pepe - just get it done
Aug 07th, 2012 - 10:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That's another legacy from the pink ones, our excellent cross country buses instead of railways... Remind me again, whos brilliant idea was that?
Aug 08th, 2012 - 03:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0Guzz Croos country buses? You are pulling my leg!Look ddoes it really matter who did what in the past. Shouldnt we be looking to the future for the benefit of all uruguayos? I frankly dont care which political party does it, buts lets get on with it. Of course there will be mistakes made, but the person or party who never made a mistake is a person who never did any thing
Aug 08th, 2012 - 01:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Pathetic, one word that resume both countries foreign offices. Hopefully Mujica (uruguayan´s president) will soon “open his eyes” and react accordingly. That remembers me an old joke; a child told his teacher he has seven puppies, all of them belonging to the Frente Amplio (an uruguayan political party). The teacher became exited at the news and ask Jaimito to talk to governments authorities visiting the school next week. But then, asked about the puppies, he said: ... and five of them belong to the FA!. The teacher, confused, ask him: Were not seven puppies? Yeah, but two of them already opened their eyes.
Aug 08th, 2012 - 08:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It seems the solution is simple, cut the (allegedly) corrupt RIovia out altogether, and Uruguay should co-operate with the corruption inquiry; I'm sure some arrangement could be made where the Uruguyan officials could testify in an Argentine court without themselves being in danger of arrest?
Aug 09th, 2012 - 03:03 am - Link - Report abuse 022 Guzz (#)
Aug 09th, 2012 - 09:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0did they have any border issues prior to the European settlers grabbing and dividing the land? interesting to find out, please shed some light on a part of history you never discuss?
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