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Falklands’ Argentine cemetery investigation extends to the UK and Malvinas families
The investigation into the vandalized hermitage at the Argentine Cemetery in the Falklands has seen the local police investigation extend to the UK and Argentina. Forensic material has been sent to Britain and Falklands’ police have requested the Malvinas Families Commission to help identify the origin of a Spanish Bible with a message signed by a “Viviana” found inside the attacked shrine. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesWhat? Where are the demands to the UN by the Argentine Government?!!!
Aug 10th, 2012 - 11:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Power outage across Argentina I take it? Or are they, just maybe, thinking “Oh ek Penfold! why did we ever make such a fuss....”
If this had happened in Argentina, would the authorities there have taken it so seriously?
Aug 10th, 2012 - 11:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Seems like the Falkland Islands have called Argentina's bluff again.
kinda looks like the bible was left outside the cabinet to be exposed to weather, until a religious fruit or over zealous family member or both decided to take matters into their own hands and put the bible where they thought it should be, not realizing the hornets nest they have caused. I hope when its found that argentines are to blame that and the argtard government fall over themselves apologizing to the Falkland government and its people along with the british and the UN/Red cross for wasting their time being a fooking blurt.
Aug 10th, 2012 - 11:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0but we all know thats not going to happen, the real outcome will be argentina denying all investigations and blaming britain, sueing anyone who does not believe them.
a pretty needless act they should of just asked for cabinet to be opened.
The scene in Rio Gallegos some weeks ago....
Aug 10th, 2012 - 11:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0”bloody hell, Viviana, what do you mean you just left it out in the weather.... now I'll have to go sort that out....'
Passport .. check,
Ticket to MPA...check,
Ice axe... check,
Balaclava.... check.....
After 2 or 3 weeks the episode occur they say they find a bible?? why was not said or photograhied the same day they find the ermit broken?? There has been shown photos of the day it happened, the man that found the ermit broken didnt talk nothing of a bible...hmmm Nobody talk of the bible before
Aug 11th, 2012 - 12:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0and it was in or outside the ermit?? it seems it was outside, someone find it and put it inside (thats why it has the ziploc)
and doesnt explain if some silly british put it there to interrupt or perjudice the investigation....and involve arg, very probably... I vote this
very confusing, these brits loves embarrassing things....
coincidence? the minister of ecology viviana roviras? who knows they are all crazy as 5hit?
Aug 11th, 2012 - 12:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=es&u=http://yamisiones.com/%3Fmodulo%3Dnoticia%26id%3D15505&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dviviana%2Bmalvinas%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26rlz%3D1R2GGNI_en-GBGB480%26biw%3D1366%26bih%3D606%26prmd%3Dimvns&sa=X&ei=o6YlUNF0ztrRBYn1gbAK&ved=0CEYQ7gEwAg
@5 Well, everyone enjoys embarrassing KFC and her chums...
Aug 11th, 2012 - 01:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0I wonder if her monkey at the UN did lodge a formal protest? and if so did Ban ki Moon deal with it before or after his daily briefing on the situation in Syria....??
Pete bob: it hapened in Argentina!!
Aug 11th, 2012 - 03:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0@ Malen #5
Aug 11th, 2012 - 04:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0One, the police don't usually inform the media and public of every scrap of evidence the moment they open an investigation. Two, from the photos I've seen, and given the position of the hole, the bible could have been obscured by the other contents, and thus not visible in the released photographs. Three, the argument of 'the caretaker didn't mention it, so it can't have been there' is flawed on many, MANY levels. Four, the Falkland Islands police and the British forensic investigators are highly unlikely to be so morally and ethically corrupt to fabricate evidence to implicate a third party, unlike the police force of a certain banana republic we could all mention. Five, it's not confusing, it's a press release relating to the progress of the investigations. It's no more confusing than say a press release relating to a murder investigation. Six, the British and Falkland Islanders don't like embarrassing things, they simply wish to do the right thing by investigating a vile act of vandalism against a war memorial, regardless of nationalities. Again, unlike the police force of a certain banana republic who don't look into far worse criminal and violent acts taking place in the very streets of their major cities.
@8 Really?? In that case KFC should be held accountable.....
Aug 11th, 2012 - 04:27 am - Link - Report abuse 05
Aug 11th, 2012 - 04:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0If there is DNA at the scene of the crime, the investigation will be able to determine if the culprit is of Southern or Northern European origin. That being the case there will be a reasonable amount of certainty as to the culprits origin.
TWIMC
Aug 11th, 2012 - 05:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0It seems to be quite a consensus in the Puerto Stanley pub crawling scene about whom may have done this….......
I wonder if the Royal Malvinas Constabulary has considered that…….:
1) The top half of Isla Soledad (Where Puerto Stanley and Darwin's Argentine War Cemetery are placed) have quite a decent (and expensive) mobile phone coverage…..
2) All Chavs on the Island carry a mobile phone……
3) All mobile phones contact the nearest antenna every 15 seconds or so…..
4) All this information is stored in the telephone company servers for, at least, a year…
Just a matter of minutes for the coppers to:
1) Have a friendly smoko with the expensive guys at Cable &Wireless South Atlantic Ltd. and get all info about who was at the Cemetery during the relevant period of time.
2) Checking, with the help of the above mentioned info, the whereabouts of the “Usual Suspects” …
3) If the Chavs in question were so “Smart” to turn off their phones prior to the deed (they usually aren’t)….. Well, even better…. It would just prove the premeditation of their act…. No “ I was pissed” excuses….
The amount of resources put into solving this case need to be kept in proper proportion and I'm sure they are. It's not exactly the crime of the century. As our Malvinista deadbeats keep telling us, this sort of stuff happens in big cities all the time and there's little that can be done about it. What's the difference here? The Falklands population is small and the police resources here are proportionate to the risk.
Aug 11th, 2012 - 06:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0Maybe it was a ghost!
Aug 11th, 2012 - 06:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0Maybe it was the hand of God.
Aug 11th, 2012 - 06:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0Chuckle chuckle
Sounds like a job for Holmes and Watson
Aug 11th, 2012 - 06:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0(13) You are making me chuckle©, Mr. Bloggs……
Aug 11th, 2012 - 07:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0”It's not exactly the crime of the century” you say…..
I say: No, it’s not………………., but….
What was the ”Crime of the last century” in Malvinas ???
The Murder of Royal Marine Alan Addis, perhaps ???
Still unresolved, despite every Kelper knows by name the four guys that killed him…..
And, what’s the ”Crime of the this century” in Malvinas???
The seizing of some Kgs. of cocaine in Puerto Stanley, after a tip from a Spanish guy that didn’t get his cut ???
Followed by the “mysterious disappearance” of the above mentioned cocaine whilst in “police custody” ???
And the subsequent “ swift replacement” of the Chief Police Officer ???
”The Falklands population is small and the police resources here are proportionate to the risk”, you say…..
I say: The Royal Malvinas Constabulary consist of about 30 persons sitting on their behinds most of the year doing NOTHING (besides harassing some local young ones trying to have some fun on those loong booring winter evenings….)
This is THE opportunity for those highly professional Police Officers to demonstrate what they are worth!
Take your fingers out of the gas chamber and start doing some policing, lads….
Chuckle chuckle©
El Think
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Aug 11th, 2012 - 08:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0The chances that you aren't right here amongst or that you haven't at one time lived right here amongst us are slim. Perhaps you're also Marcos Alejandro AKA Mike Bingham. You know too much about us to be just a curious Malvinista deadbeat and nothing more. When asked once before if you'd been to the islands you simply replied “yup”.
Which are you? Are you living and working amongst us but acting like you're pleased with the situation? Maybe you have an axe to grind because not everyone has been nice to you all the time. Or maybe the police have been to see you too often. Or maybe you left with a huge chip on your shoulder because it didn't work out.
Dangerous game laddy. Don't leave your computer laying around somewhere.
Chuckle chuckle.
@17 Your use of Wikipedia to create the impression you're running an agent or two in Stanley is a marvel of modern deception operations. I hope the RFIP SB officer and the RAFP P&SS CI NCO aren't wasting any of their valuable time on tracking them down.
Aug 11th, 2012 - 08:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0Think - the crime of last century in the Falklands was the illegal invasion of the islands. You know that.
Aug 11th, 2012 - 08:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0(19) Cmd McDod
Aug 11th, 2012 - 08:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ms. Wikipedia, yes......
Bit I use mostly Mr. Google.....
The two damn best agents in town.... ;-)
@21
Aug 11th, 2012 - 09:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0And who needs evidence when you've got rumoured pub conversations?
I still think it was Fernando Zylberberg
Aug 11th, 2012 - 09:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0@8
Aug 11th, 2012 - 10:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Falkland Islands are not in Argentina gusty., they are a Britsh Overseas Territory, destined one day to be an independent nation, and one of South America's most progressive economies, also destined to be an important conduit between LATAM and Europe.
The difference between your vision and mine, is that mine is more likely to become reality than yours, my friend.
@12 Think-if you have evidence about this you need to contact the Malverns constabluary though it might be an idea to contact the Royal Falkland Islands police instead.
How do you know that it was not an Argentine veteran that wanted the bible in the case?
If this was a raid by vandals why was the figure of the Virgin Mary not destroyed?
@17 “I say: No, it’s not………………., but….
What was the ”Crime of the last century” in Malvinas ???
The Murder of Royal Marine Alan Addis, perhaps ???”
Sad as this was Think, how would you compare it to the murder of 20,000 people in Argentina going on at the same time?
What about cemetery attacks in Argentina. Do you suggest that the UK should report these to the UN?
”on those loong booring winter evenings….) ”
The Falkland Islands boring?
You have obviously never been to Stanley.
(18) Joe Bloggs
Aug 11th, 2012 - 10:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0You say:
“When asked once before if you'd been to the islands you simply replied “yup”.”
I say:
I also hinted that my name could be found on the HU-16 arrival lists….
You have my permission to check them :-)
Every other article in the current edition of Mercopress seems to be about inward investment in Brazil , how the Brazilian economy is growing , foreign multinationals ( Toyota ) opening plants in Brazil , yet all the Malvinistas care about is a piece of broken glass on a shrine ( NOT a hermitage , Mercopress , which is where hermits live ) of a small war grave on some islands that do not even belong to them . No wonder Argentina is going nowhere .
Aug 11th, 2012 - 10:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0@12 strange how you left out argentines off you list of suspects, sorry to inform you they are main culprits quite shocked you missed that fact “stink”, however i like the idea of using mobile phones to locate people with the proximity of the vandalism but that would only work if every tard argtardville who visited The Falklands had a mobile phone, argtards can only just about afford bread let alone a mobile. so your plan is flawed.
Aug 11th, 2012 - 10:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0@5,@12 as i said argtards will try to dodge the finger of blame, and you and “Think” proved that, instead of acknowledging that it is very likely the case, you blindly deny argtard involvement and attempt to turn it into the islanders doing, its a very very slim possibility along with other slim scenarios like meteor, tsunami, Aliens but i will go with the argtard visitor.
25
Aug 11th, 2012 - 10:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0I guess in the 70s when you used to come over you had a vision that one day the Falklands would be Argentine. Then in 1982 you probably thought your country had done it. Then you realised you were on the losing side. Never mind.
Chuckle chuckle.
You say: The Malvinas are Argentine.
I say: No they're not.
Chuckle chuckle.
@5 “blows from a blunt instrument”? A rifle butt? The hilt of a bayonet? An argie head? I reckon we can bet on this being an argie “special forces” job. Can just imagine it. “Special forces” team slip ashore from submarine. As they have done so many times. Whilst collecting “intelligence”, because argieland needs all it can get, “Jose” takes bible in ziplock plastic bag from his kit in order to “plant” it. Forgets that ziplock bags are frequently used by special forces, divers, etc to keep items dry and he was supposed to take the bible out before he planted it. Bashes in front of cabinet and puts bible inside. Forgetting that he is supposed to be “covert” and that neither an Islander nor a Brit would have any interest. More likely to drop-kick it over the nearest cliff. Definitely a typical argie bungled job.
Aug 11th, 2012 - 10:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0@12 Did you get all this in a “dream”. The only “place” names I recognised were “Stanley” and “Darwin”. Are the others drug-induced?
@17 The ”Crime of the (20th) Century” was the invasion and occupation of the peaceful, minding our own business, Falkland Islands by the (sometimes) ignorant dupes of a power-mad, thieving, lying, nearby country.
@22 Good thought. But how is Twinky getting in and out? Same submarine? He's supposed to be in Chubut province. Time to “borrow” some of that lovely U.S. satellite surveillance?
@23 Also not a bad idea. He does have “form” for desecrating things connected with war. But wasn't he commissioned, via “cut-outs”, by CFK? Don't lots of indicators seem to be pointing at the argie government? Who was so “ready” with their press release. Who was “ready to rush to the UN? Who's that stupid? Tinpotman? Putrid Jelly? I'd go for Putrid Jelly. He's thick enough AND he's in control of argieland's so-called ”armed” forces. I think that means they have arms, with hands on the end, not that they have usable weapons. But you never know! Perhaps they have catapults, marbles and paper clips.
@29
Aug 11th, 2012 - 11:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0Why would an Argentine Special Forces operation stick a bible inside the case with a message written in Spanish?
@12
Aug 11th, 2012 - 12:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0”3) If the Chavs in question were so “Smart” to turn off their phones prior to the deed (they usually aren’t)….. Well, even better…. It would just prove the premeditation of their act…. No “ I was pissed” excuses….”
Is that what passes for justice in Argentina? if your phone was switched off at the time then you're guilty, a nice draconian touch that is. In the Falklands however that old fashioned innocent until PROVEN guilty thing is still in use.
Still you may have a point, perhaps if we had a more 'kangeroo court' type of justice we'd be a bit more acceptable to you lot eh Think?
@30 HansNiesund (#)
Aug 11th, 2012 - 12:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Aug 11th, 2012 - 11:09 am
Well there is 'special' and then there is “special needs” isn't there? I am guessing that Think's operatives are Special Needs Forces.
9 Jimlad we are not stupid
Aug 11th, 2012 - 12:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0the man that find the culprit or ermit broken, took the Virgin of Luján out of it to protect it of robbing or been broken. He should have seen a bible if there have been one. I dont believe its difficult to find it in that place.
Perhaps there has been a Viviana, visiting the cementery and leaving a bible outside to honour (for the message it is a common one of respect of our veterans) our veterans. But she didnt break the ermit to put it inside. Its very silly to leave your name after breaking an ermit, dont you think?? But if you think that is a line of investigation, go an investigate Viviana.
What about all the drunk people that were at a Malvinas pub that night bored and thinking of a plan to have some diversion that day??? Sherlock Homes would have gone to the pub and investigate there.
Remember the Virgin of Luján is our patrona, if you make a promise to her you have to go walking to Luján on thanking and every year there are many people that goes walking to venerate her, she is very important for us. And its the only symbol of religious and argentity on the isles, put there to protect our soldiers that gave their lives. I find ridicoulous an arg did that.
There are plenty of idiots in every country in the world, playing a game of “our idiots are less idiotic than your idiots” is really just a game for idiots.
Aug 11th, 2012 - 12:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I agree with you. But sure in the isles there are more brits idiots than arg idiots, as mostly families of arg veterans or arg veterans are mostly the ones that go to visit the cementary. And Malvinas for us its not a tourist destination. We have more beautiful and important tourist destinations in Arg. You have said UK are the most in quantity tourists that go to visit the isles.
Aug 11th, 2012 - 12:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And even your troops get drunk there, there were videos of them drunk, they could havedone it also.
(31) WestisBest
Aug 11th, 2012 - 01:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You seem to be misunderstanding the point on purpose….
Let’s say that “Mr. Monster” and “Mr. Bog” decided, just before closing time, to have some “fun” with little Virgin Mary…….
Let’s say that, after some “good citizens tips” the police finds some armored glass fragments and some blue and white paint chips incrusted on the leather grip of the Estwing rock pick lying at the back of Mr Bog’s 90’’ Landy……..
Let’s say that, the Cable & Shameless report shows that “Mr. Monster” and “Mr. Bog” turned off their phones, late one night, just after driving past Swan Inlet….
You get what I mean?
Normal police job..... In Malvinas, Continental Argentina or even the UK....
PS:
(This is a fictional story…. Any similitude with real persons, places, cars or geology hammers is pure coincidence......)
Much ado about nothing. I don't see who cares about a piece of broken glass. Bo0 hoo. Wha Wha
Aug 11th, 2012 - 02:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Replace it and move on nobody was hurt except Think's holier than thou-fake righteous indignation. If he is really a grown up man it would be embarrassing I have though for a long time he was a whiny teen aged girl.
@36
Aug 11th, 2012 - 03:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If they have other evidence against a suspect then fine, that'd be an extra bit of circumstantial evidence.
It's not reasonable however to label anyone as a suspect who happened to switch their phone off sometime that week, and that was what you implied no matter how much you try to spin it.
@30 Do you understand the argie mentality? A bunch that can happily deny historical and proven facts? Now read “malen's” comments. See how the argie “mind” works? Or, more accurately, doesn't. Now answer a question. Why would an Islander or a Brit put the bible inside the cabinet? No, it's a “special”. Prepare the bible as though left by “relative”. But the case has to be damaged in order to create an “incident”. Let's be realistic. Mount Pleasant is about 25 miles away from Darwin. Stanley is another 25 miles beyond that. And who is going to do round trips of 50 or 100 miles, at night, for such a purpose? Especially difficult in the case of British forces personnel. Or does someone think they aren't checked in and out of MPA. Or that NCOs wouldn't notice if a man were missing.
Aug 11th, 2012 - 03:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@33 “we are not stupid”. You are an argie. Of course you're stupid. You've elected a moronic, brainless slag twice now. Based on her wonderful “economic model”, argieland is heading into economic meltdown. But you “think” life is wonderful! You, as a country, lie and cheat and steal whatever you do and wherever you go.
@36 And, as pointed out, are “Mr Monster” and “Mr Bog”, after an evening drinking, going for a 100 mile round trip? On the only road? Without being “noticed”? And the argie blaggers are out to help support the “false flag” operation.
(38) WestisBest
Aug 11th, 2012 - 03:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No lad; that was NOT what I implied no matter how much you try to spin it.
So we have two competing theories;
Aug 11th, 2012 - 03:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Think and Malen's version;
A couple of drunken Falkland Islanders a chucking out time in a Stanley pub say to themselves 'I know what, let's drive 60 miles along the MPA road at night in the middle of winter, risk losing our licenses for drink driving, to vandalise something that we haven't really thought about in 30 years, and then we'll drive 60 miles back again.' Malen's version has an added element- the two drunks, before they go, manage to find a bible and someone to translate a fake message to go with it, so that they can make it look like the Argentines done it.
Everone else's version:
A visitor to the cemetary saw the bible lying outside, saw that no-one was watching and decided to smack a hole in the glass and push it in.
I guess we'll never know.
I think however, that it must have been me. I turned my phone off during a meeting that week and forgot to turn it on again for three days. And I was in the vicinity of Goose Green at some point that week. I'm just debating whether to turn myself in or just wait for the police to turn up.
You did it...you can travel there, you have the cars, the boring, the drinks, the intensions, bad intensions, you hide what you dont like that happens in that isles, ....etc
Aug 11th, 2012 - 03:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and about the military, dont tell that the videos where they got almost drunk, dressed as women few clothes taking photos in front militar equipment were made in front their chiefs sargents....that they did allow it....
poor Viviana, I imagine her at night, breaking the glass and puting the bible, so as to everybody knows it has been her....so strong religious feelings in the letters of the bible for our soldiers...to break a religious symbol
Malen, I don't think you need to get your knickers in a twist about those videos. British men don't need to be drunk to dress in women's clothes and dance. Their sergeants probably joined in; it's innocent fun and it doesn't hurt anyone. Just treat it as a cultural difference that you don't understand.
Aug 11th, 2012 - 03:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0tell Monty why would a visitor to the arg cementary break the culprit of the virgin to put a bible inside?? According to what reason??
Aug 11th, 2012 - 04:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Someone did this vandalism, to disrespect the arg cementary, and to complicate the investigation and make it appear that someone arg was involved.
@43 - Monty69
Aug 11th, 2012 - 04:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Indeed, even more so if they are Royal Marines.
These guys are so nails that they deploy on operations with a full length evening gown, stilettos, wig and make-up in case there's an impromptu party.
I heard a story once, don't know if it's true or not but it probably has a kernel of truth to it and been exaggerated over the years.
A group of Royal Marines were manning a forward operating base (FOB) in Afghanistan. Someone decided that they should have a party, and they all ended up wearing their dresses, wigs etc...
Now one of the sentries heard some Afghan voices outside the FOB and saw a group of Taliban planting improvised explosive devices (IEDs) just outside the main gate. The Taliban were sure surprised by the rather large group of heavily armed cross dressed Marines who burst out of the gate, guns blazing and yelling obscenities like banshees.
I can just imagine the survivors reporting to their Taliban chief...“we were ambushed by these huge, ugly women wearing evening gowns...”
But the fact is that it doesn't take much for the average squaddie to throw on a dress. In fact, I've seen some that look better than women when dressed up!
(41) Monty69
Aug 11th, 2012 - 04:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You say:
“I guess we'll never know……..”
I say:
You are the third or fourth Kelper that says the same on this pages, lass!
Not much faith you Islanders have in the professional aptitude of that 1% of your population that constitutes the Royal Malvinas Constabulary, huhhhh?....
@46 - Think
Aug 11th, 2012 - 05:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Where is place you keep talking about? The Malvinas? I've never heard of it before and I can't find it on any map.
Are you sure you don't mean the Maldives?
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Aug 11th, 2012 - 05:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 030 HansNiesund well the Argentine dimwits would not leave a bible and a message written in German would they? Or English for that matter they are not that bright.
Aug 11th, 2012 - 05:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@43 You got one thing right. “Malen” in knickers!
Aug 11th, 2012 - 05:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@44 You need to understand something. Let me help. NOTHING argie is worthy of respect. Think of the things that are worthy of respect. Bravery. Courage. Honesty. Honour. Integrity. Legitimacy. Truthfulness. There aren't any argies with these attributes. But the most well-known argie attribute is? Sh*te on a bent stick.
Seriously, either this is the idiotic behaviour of an irate drunken Falkland Islander pushed to an act of mindless vandalism by the increasing hostility and threats emanating from Argentina, stupid behaviour by an Argentine 'tourist' or a deliberately timed and contrived propaganda scheme dreamt up and implemented by the Argentine government.
Aug 11th, 2012 - 06:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Considering who is shouting the loudest about this incident, who seeks to make capital of it and the recent rhetoric and behaviour of the Argentine government, the latter seems the most likely explanation. Given the distances and hassle involved, and the minimal damage inflicted, it seems unlikely that a Falkland Islander or British defence forces would be involved. Bearing in mind that the Falkland Islanders have tended and respected this cemetery and monument for decades. It is admirable that Falkland Islanders have thanklessly tended this shrine, despite the fact that it is, in some respect, a commemoration of an appalling unprovoked invasion of their homeland.
Even if it were the case that a Falklander was responsible, the correct response from KFC and Co. would be a dignified and low-key message to the Falkland Islands Government, expressing their concern at this unfortunate incident. The FIG would have apologised in a civilised manner and repaired any damage. The ridiculous Argentine squealing to the UN deliberately and insultingly implied that the Falkland Islands Government was implicated in this petty vandalism.
Argentina's immediate and ridiculously disproportionate response only adds credence to accusations, however unfounded, that they were somehow involved in a duplicitous and despicable 'black flag' act of desecration for vile and cynical propaganda purposes.
I think, really its your Foreign Office with so much bad work that is making us the favour (the prince, the sub, the destroyer, and now the bible, etc).
Aug 11th, 2012 - 09:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Tell us Alexei who do you think is going to believe you with that nonsense you invented of the bible?? Dozens of shoots over the glass to put a bible, in which an arg writes benditions and respect to soldiers??
Really theres not interest in to humilliate an islander, but on the silly methods you use to plant silly proofs to embarras the field.
@52 - Malen
Aug 11th, 2012 - 09:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's nice to know that Argentina is scared of a pilot who only flies an unarmed search and rescue helicopter.
I'm surprised that you even mention these things. I mean, your foreign minister Hector Timmerman, embarrassed himself and Argentina at the UN over this. There are still countries out there laughing about it, and his description if the HMS Dauntless as the 'Deathstar', and his claim that the international monitoring station was spying on Argentina.
By screeching about this incident, and then linking 'politics' to it shows just how much CFK and her government care for the Argentine fallen. She has sh!t and p!ssed all over their memories to try and score a few cheap political points. It's distasteful, and the world recognises it as such. But what can we expect. Your government doesn't respect your own dead, or the dead of any conflict.
This episode has already humiliated Argentina internationally far more than it did the Falkland Islanders or the British, and by not waiting for the investigation to be complete before screeching to the world, your government could be made a fool of once again, especially if the culprit was a 'misguided' Argentine citizen.
Malen
Aug 11th, 2012 - 09:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Where did you dream up the idea that Argentina are the favourites? How is that so? What tangible evidence is there? Nothing has changed. We still live here in our Falkland Islands and your silly government is still wasting money and resources you can't afford, doing a terrible job proving that they should be yours.
You've lost the breeze in your sails too it has to be said. Impotent effort deadbeats!
Chuckle chuckle!
Well its clearly not the “Argy false flag conspiracy” people were theorising on here, as they wouldn't have left their Bible if it was!
Aug 11th, 2012 - 09:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Think” & “malen” and any other argtard followers, just a quick and simple question for you, a basic yes/no answer is adequate.
Aug 11th, 2012 - 09:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Is it possible that the sensless vandalism may have been caused by an Argentine visiting the islands?
remember argtards just YES or NO its very simple. i will make it easy, there is only one rational answer. if its too hard i will understand if you move to another comment.
56
Aug 11th, 2012 - 10:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0YES
@42
Aug 11th, 2012 - 10:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“the boring”
The Falkland Islands are only boring to you because you lack imagination, a sense of humour, intelectual inventiveness and I congratulate you on your succesful charisma bypass operation.
Falkland Islanders would be too busy having a good time in Stanley to drive drunk all the way to Darwin in the middle of the night in the winter and back again.
No soldier would be allowed to vandalise a grave -one started a fight in one of the clubs in Stanley so he and his mates were made to march back to MPA (40miles) in full kit as a punishment the next day.
Is plod taking politically correct lessons from the MET? instead of the usual,
Aug 11th, 2012 - 10:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0this is yer crime number for the insurance company.Sorry we don't have any orificers to deal with this crime at the mo,they are all engaged on trawling twitter looking for hate crimes,in between gorging themselves on takeaways.They could have left a copy of harry potter,much more interesting,both being well read fiction books.Suerte,and lets hope you can bring the perpetrator of the heinous crime to justice,no expense spared.Interpol,anybody?
You've sunk to a new low now, Think.
Aug 11th, 2012 - 10:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0With your ridiculous “theories”.
Detective Think on the case. lf we can't catch the scumbag responsible, we'll just blame the Falklanders.
“Did l do well, Mistress Botox, did l do well?”
And we get the usual intelligent, well thought out theories from that other prize idiot, malen.
Maybe they're one & the same?
All we can do is wait for the inquiry to run it's course.
Aug 11th, 2012 - 10:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It sounds like a very strange case to me. I would almost say (as others have) like it was as if someone was trying to place items inside the glass case. This would point to an Argentinian, which strikes me as very odd, why did'nt they just ask?
At first I thought it was a Falklander who was fed up with Argentina's rhetoric, or a drunken yob.
Now I'm not so sure.
@Isolde.
Guess what - Axel arg never emailed any of his evidence and research about the Argentine claim to me to have a look at. Just like the Argentine claim in general - the more questions you ask them, the more vague or non-existant the answers............
Malen- facts again please:
Aug 12th, 2012 - 03:18 am - Link - Report abuse 01. Royal Falkland Islands Police confirmed early on that the damage to the glass was NOT from gunshots- but from a heavy blunt instrument like a hammer or a pick.
2- What bad work has the UK Foreign Office been doing?
A helicopter pilot does a ROUTINE NORMAL trainin g duty tour to the Faklands. So What?
Submarines routinely visit the S Atlantic and Falklands area and have dome EVER SINCE 1982!!
The destroyer? - Do you mean the type that is replacing the old ones? The one CFK and Twitman have blathered on about ever since about 6 months ago! - Yes it arrived here yesterday - and leaves in about 10 days - wow - some long term threat in the S Atlantic!!!!!! - IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I will give you some good work the Foreign Office has done:
Capitalized on all the free international Press coverage the Islands received last summer -free thnaks to silly Argentina!
Persuaded several S American and other nations not to back CFK very much at all in the Summit of the americas and OAS.
Peruaded several overseas leaders not to openly back Argentina,s position, when your President visits those Leaders!
@61 shb,
Aug 12th, 2012 - 08:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0Axel is a wasted space.
He repeats the same rubbish over & over.
When someone asks a specific question, he evades it & rabbits on about a “fair solution” for both sides=translation=when Argentina takes over the Falklands.
You may have noticed that he doesn't answer me anymore.
Must have upset him with some home-truths! not that l care a biscuit.
Wonder where the idiot is? haven't heard from him for some time.
Thanks for your support, shb.
@62 lslander1,
Don't tell them about the missile silos or the underground submarine bases. lol!
I think Axel's wheels have fallen off....
Aug 12th, 2012 - 09:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yeah lets get the mobile phone records for all the Islanders , British Soldiers, respected International visitors and others. Lets invade their privacy find where they've been, who they've been calling and the colour of Isolde's underwear ... for what... to find out who broke a piece of glass!
Aug 12th, 2012 - 10:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0Err no, get real, this is the United Kingdom not some grubby police state.
65 Englander
Aug 12th, 2012 - 12:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0SussieUS is convinced I am Isolde, I have never met her but she sounds quite fetching, I too, have often wondered about the colour of her underwear?
lt just depends on the occasion.
Aug 12th, 2012 - 12:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sounds promising Zhivago, just make sure “Think” isn't hiding under the bed making notes.
Aug 12th, 2012 - 01:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@42 You're nuts. First principle of criminal investigation - who benefits? The Falkland Islands? No. Britain? No. Argieland? Yes. Righteous indignation. Country insulted. The dead insulted.
Aug 12th, 2012 - 01:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@44 It's called a “false flag” operation! Surprised you haven't heard of it.
@51 One point. CFK couldn't send “a dignified and low-key message to the Falkland Islands Government, expressing their concern at this unfortunate incident.” According to CFK and Co, the FIG doesn't exist! As with air links and fishing, CFK has chopped her feet off. She can't send messages to or negotiate with something she says doesn't exist. Nor is the British government going to help her out.
@52 Perhaps you should take the contents of “your” cemetery and remove them to argieland where they would be “safe”.
@55 You don't understand how “false flag” works, do you?
@62 You forgot to mention that HMS Dauntless is, principally, an air defence destroyer. It has the standard 4.5 inch gun but, apart from that, all its surface level armament is relatively light.
@64 You mean he had WHEELS? I didn't think argies had progressed that far.
@65 Just as an aside, isn't it strange that places such as the Falkland Islands are called BRITISH Overseas Territories? Anyone know why they aren't called United Kingdom Overseas Territories? For Islanders; Do you want to be associated with the United Kingdom or Scotland?
@66 Should we be wondering about the colour of Isolde's underwear? What if she wears different colours on different days? Is it really something to be discussed in public? Especially with so many drooling, retarded, argie perverts about?
I just cannot understand why anyone is even replying to 'I don't Think' aka The Turnip In Chief.
Aug 12th, 2012 - 02:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We know this bastard is the bigeest liar who posts on MercoPress, and given the likes of Malen, Prat-Junta and Malvi-babie, that's saying something.
And, frankly, who cares? TMBOA certainly doesn't respect anything on the Falklands (there are STILL no Malvinas) so why should any other Argie?
I am frankly amazed that the islanders are not shipping the whole lot of the Argie dead back to the mainland given the response from the 'families' and others there over this matter before ANY of the investigations started.
i will be waiting the nonsense and royal imagination over the investigation of the bible....hope UK will do a great job..............Vivi where is Vivi, such suspicious woman for writting benditions to soldiers...... you are a real laugh squatters
Aug 12th, 2012 - 02:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Our Lady of Lujan:
Aug 12th, 2012 - 02:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.sspx.ca/EucharisticCrusade/2005_May/Our_Lady_of_Lujan.htm
Regards.
“Idolatry is a pejorative term for the worship of an idol, a physical object such as a cult image, as a god,[1] or practices believed to verge on worship, such as giving undue honour and regard to created forms other than God.[2] In all the Abrahamic religions idolatry is strongly forbidden, although views as to what constitutes idolatry may differ within and between them. In other religions the use of cult images is accepted, although the term ”idolatry“ is unlikely to be used within the religion, being inherently disapproving. Which images, ideas, and objects constitute idolatry is often a matter of considerable contention, and within all the Abrahamic religions the term may be used in a very wide sense, with no implication that the behaviour objected to actually consists of the religious worship of a physical object”
Aug 12th, 2012 - 03:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Never understand the whole worshiping saints thing, but then again i've never believed in make-believe.........
@71 “malen” you seem to have overlooked my question to you in comment 56 any chance of an answer from you, or is it to uncormfortable for you? or you can continue to ignore it but the question will continue to remain.
Aug 12th, 2012 - 04:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Is it possible the vandalism may have been caused by an argentine visitor??
for the second time of asking, simply YES/NO!
@74 I think not. It is an islander who made a mistake. And does not represent the educated people of the islands.
Aug 12th, 2012 - 04:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(65) Englander
Aug 12th, 2012 - 04:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If Rupert Murdoch can...................., ”28100” Finchett can too.
(56) & (74) PirateLove
If you asked without insulting........, you would get an answer.
@18 Many islanders come on holiday to the continent. Some agree some kind of solution with Argentina.
Aug 12th, 2012 - 04:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But in the islands can not speak for fear.
On the continent there are families of islanders, grandparents, parents, and children.
There is no mystery.
@76 why would you find my question in comment 74 insulting?, its just a simple question it should not need a compromise, and predictably you avoid answering,
Aug 12th, 2012 - 04:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0so for a third time,
Is it possible the vandalism may have been caused by an argentine visitor to the Falklands??
Yes or no. its is quite simple.
@78 What reason would an Argentine visitor to commit an act of vandalism in a cemetery Argentine?
Aug 12th, 2012 - 04:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 078 PirateLove
Aug 12th, 2012 - 04:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So; for a second time, I find your question in comment 56 insulting because you write:
“Think” & “Malen” and any other argtard followers“......
Followed by a....:
”.....remember argtards just YES or NO”.....
Quite simple......
@79 thats something you would have to ask them as only they know the real reason why.
Aug 12th, 2012 - 04:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(81) PirateLove
Aug 12th, 2012 - 05:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0......and predictably you avoid answering.
@ 81 You are not a good detective.
Aug 12th, 2012 - 05:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A tourist with a hammer and pick?
An innocent gift for Isolde could not get off a cruise and a tourist walk freely with a pick and hammer does not seem logical.
To Amorpirata:
Aug 12th, 2012 - 05:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0NO.
Chau.
@82 “Think” i asked the question in 74 and you still chose not to answer and i dont see any insults in 74 do you? yet you did see the question because you referenced it in 76. so please answer the question and stop deflecting for a fourth time of asking,
Aug 12th, 2012 - 05:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Is it possible the vandalism may have been caused by an argentine visitor??
YES/NO! or are you going to avoid the answer once again in your next comment, lets see.
@83 was it a hammer and pick? i wasnt there, was you?
@79 for the same reason an Argentine disrespected the war memorial?
Aug 12th, 2012 - 05:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I don't know who or why but you have to accept that it is entirely possible it is another stunt organised by CFKC. She has a reputation for it.
@84 “MALEN”, @75 “MALVINESE” so you say it is NOT possible for an argentine visitor to have caused the vandalism, of course its possible, i didnt ask whether they did it!
Aug 12th, 2012 - 05:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0i simply asked if it was possible? you have just proved yourselves to being blind to any rational thinking, good luck with future comments!!
whats it to be Think??? Yes/No, “Think” rationally it is quite simple.
(85) PirateLove
Aug 12th, 2012 - 06:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 095% of your posts contain insults against Argentina......
I normally avoid any interaction with insulting turnips......
A simple apology for your insults at (56) would get you the answer you so much desire.....
It's quite simple........
76
Aug 12th, 2012 - 06:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yeah of course he did and proceeded to lose a National newspaper, a TV Station, a sexy red haired editor, a whole load of dosh and then received a poorly aimed foam pie to the face.
Still.... some might say that hacking into a murder victims phone doesn't quite compare with breaking a bit of glass.... or maybe it does in newly democratic Argentina.
(89) Englander
Aug 12th, 2012 - 06:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yeah, of course Mr. Murdoch lost all that........................but:
Judging by your many comments on these pages, he totally controls what you “think” you know about Argentina, South America and the World in general..........
d and proceeded to lose a National newspaper, a TV Station, a sexy red haired editor, a whole load of dosh and then received a poorly aimed foam pie to the face.
Still.... some might say that hacking into a murder victims phone doesn't quite compare with breaking a bit of glass.... or maybe it does in newly democratic Argentina.
Think @12 and 88 - Where are these places you mention? Puerto Stanley? Isla Soledad?
Aug 12th, 2012 - 06:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And what on earth is the ”Royal Malvinas Constabulary?
@88 i accept your apology, yet the question still remains, and the 5th and FINAL time today of asking “Think” who seems to have a mental block,ill make it easy i have already give you the answer.
Aug 12th, 2012 - 06:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0is it possible that the vandalism may have been caused by argentines visiting the Falklands???
your choice “think” ,you can join malen and malteser in irrational thought, or are you big enough to accept that it is possible?? your choice, i cant believe you have taken this long answering a simple question yet usually you have so much too say! how do you say it “Turnip” you are certainly proving that you are.
(92) PirateLove
Aug 12th, 2012 - 06:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I should have known better….. My bad…..
Have a nice life……….
90
Aug 12th, 2012 - 06:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No he doesn't and neither do his publications. Suffice to say you are mistaken....again.
But Kirchner obviously pulls your strings, its not possible to get a fag paper between your views and the views of your rather repulsive President.
Anyway, next time some Argentine lout gobs in the street get onto Telefonica to find out who was in the vicinity or better still take a DNA sample and track that spitting fool down.
(94) Englander
Aug 12th, 2012 - 07:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You say that nor Mr. Murdoch nor his publications control what you “think”..........................
A quick read of your latest comments in MercoPress's archive clearly show that, no matter if the issue is Assange, the EU, Argentina, Mercosur or whatever; your “opinions” are always perfectly in line with the editorial line of “The Sun”
You are THE stereotype of a Turnip.....
An IGNORANT Turnip.
@95
Aug 12th, 2012 - 08:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Sun has an editorial line on Mercosur? I am surprised ...
@ all,
Aug 12th, 2012 - 09:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0lts difficult, but not impossible to pin down & get a rational answer from that slippery, elusive Turnip-in-Chief(Think), isn't it?
When he can't answer, he merely ignores the question.
lt must be frustrating for him, knowing that he'll never find/have his mythical lslands.
My sympathies Chief Turnip Farmer.
(97) Isolde
Aug 12th, 2012 - 11:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You say:
”When he can't answer....., he merely ignores the question.”
I say:
You mean…...... Ignoring questions like: “Where are the Malvinas?”
Well…
Don’t ask me, lass...
Ask some of the “local” girls...
The certainly know ;-)
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Chuckle chuckle©
Stanley Police
Aug 12th, 2012 - 11:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A million pounds worth of cocaine disappeared from a double-locked cell like magic.
Brit comment
“When I arrived at Stanley police station in 85 waiting to see the boss I spent time talking to a guy sat behind the desk ,who I assumed was a member of the FI police.... knew everything about what was going on and gave me a great briefing. Turns out he was a prisoner on a local custodial sentence”
The investigation is in good hands...is it?
(99) Marcos Alejandro
Aug 12th, 2012 - 11:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You say:
“A million pounds worth of cocaine disappeared from a double-locked cell like magic.”
I say:
Juppppp.... The “official” explanation was that the door was locked allright, but due to a “regrettable design fault”, a gap of about 30 cm existed between the lower end of the cell door and the concrete floor.
Nobody on the Islands could imagine, not even in their wildest dreams, that some “criminal” could crawl so low....
Chuckle chuckle©
:-)))))))
Aug 13th, 2012 - 12:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0@99 going by your logic, it is safe for me to assume that Argentina of today is the same corrupt sadistic peronist murdering dictatorship of 82 and cannot be trusted, as you are comparing the stanley police today to the stanley police of 85 whether the story is true or not is unimportant, im just going by your logic, marcos, your logic, you cant have one rule for one and one for another.
Aug 13th, 2012 - 01:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0so to answer your question without your logic, the investigation is in good hands as any other, unless you have solid evidence to the contrary.
I suspect not.
Muppet
Aug 13th, 2012 - 04:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0Your research is incomplete and reasoning defective. Your police state mentality is there for all to see but then it has to be remembered you are the product of one of the vilest facist regimes in history. Why not ask Isolde out on a date, you need to get out more and meet some real people.
You argies all STILL whining about the doll in the glass case ?
Aug 13th, 2012 - 08:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0On the mainland , none of you go to church any more or even marry in church and you hate the church because it sided with the nasty military between 76-82 .
But as soon as someone damages an insignificant little shrine on the Falklands you all get in a right tizz of righteous indignation and religious fervour.
In 1941 another group of fascists , Nazi Germany , invaded the Soviet Union .By 1945 they had been comprehensively defeated ( like you in 1982 ) and all the graves of the millions of dead germans were simply ploughed in , with the crosses used for firewood .
You don't hear modern Germans complain , because they understand , unlike you , they did an awful wrong in invading someone else's country.
I see the subway is still on strike , did someone damage a shrine on a station , or is it over something important ?
Grow up you silly argies
You 'supposed' Christians shouldn't be worshiping craven idols anyway. It breaks the 1st and 2nd Holy Commandments of God.
Aug 13th, 2012 - 08:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0By worshipping this 'idol' means you will never get to heaven.
@99 - marcos I agree with Pirate Love's comment @102.
Everytime you bring up something from the Islanders or Britain's past, we will remind you of just what Argentina was up to at the same time.
But we don't even have to go that far back do we? Argentine police 'vandalisng' the jewish cemetary, Argentine police 'torturing' prisoners.
I could go on, but the Argentine police's proclivity for corruption is well known and too ingrained into their mentality to be removed quickly.
The Falkland Islands police will investigate this matter with assistance from Scotland Yard. The truth is that they may never find the culprit, but your government has done Argentina no favours over this 'incident'. Instead of behaving in a dignified manner and waiting for the results of the investigation.
No they jumped up and down like spoiled children, and by linking politics to this situation they have spat on the memories of the Argentine fallen.
Plus this definitely sounds a bit too much like: 'the lady doth protest too much.'
87
Aug 13th, 2012 - 04:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0the logic would never indicate that an arg visitor to an arg so special cemementary will break the culprit with dozen shots and then leave an arg bible, on the contrary all indicates it is british visitor
The virgin will forgive you, never mind, and its a good opportunity to read, for those who have it, the bible from time to time.
@70 Agree completely.
Aug 13th, 2012 - 05:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@75 Islanders aren't that stupid. Argies are!
@77 The only “fear” in the Islands relates to argieland. 41 million war criminals!
@79 Argies are psychotics! What more do you need to know?
@80 What's your problem? ARGTARDS are ARGTARDS. The TRUTH cannot be insulting. It's just accurate.
@88 It isn't possible to insult argieland. Let's see: anal, belligerent,corrupt, cowardly, criminal, dross, faggots, grasping, greedy, immature, mendacious, obstreperous, pusillanimous, queer, rabid, retarded, stupid, threatening, vicious. There. You may not like the words but they are all accurate.
@90 When are you going to start to “think”? Repeating the lies of others is not “thinking”.
@95 “Turnip”? From someone with his head buried firmly in the earth? Thi(nc)k is as thick does!
@99 Wasn't there argie visitors that day?
@100 An argie could. Because they are “bottom” feeders.
@106 What would you know about “logic” you dweeb. Try this for your psychosis. It's a Spanish “language” (gibberish) version of the bible. It has a “message” in gibberish. There were no “shots”. It was a blunt instrument, dummy. Probably an argie head. I've never needed “forgiveness” from a virgin. Mostly they were glad to get shagged properly.
@98
Aug 14th, 2012 - 03:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0Thank you for sharing your hobby with us Think, can't say I much like it but then unlike you I have no experience of stalking people.
@106 - Malen
Aug 14th, 2012 - 10:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0The 'virgin' has no power to forgive, only GOD does. Your worship of the FALSE diety angers GOD. Reread the BIBLE. LOOK at the 10 commandments as written down in Exodus 20 and Deuteronomy 5.
1. I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. Thou shalt have no OTHER gods before me.
2. Exodus 20:4-6 You shall not make for yourself an IDOL in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, but showing love to a thousand generations of those who love me and keep my Commandments.
You'll never get into heaven worshipping IDOLS. Especially as the 'virgin' lived over 2,000 years ago so would be in 'heaven' and so is not to be worshipped as it ANGERS GOD.
Maybe GOD broke the glass in anger at all this FALSE worship.
@106
Aug 14th, 2012 - 12:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just goes to show how little you know about British yobbos. If a Brit had done this they would have simply smashed the place up and perhaps repositioned the plastic virgin fornicating with an Action man toy or something equally peurile.
The bible thing though? nah, doesn't fit. It was an Argie.
I had a flick through the bible last night.
Aug 14th, 2012 - 01:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Genocide, rape, incest...it reads like an Argentine morality play.
I couldn't find the bit about chucking innocent women out of the back of planes though. A bit of theological advice, anyone?
There is a problem here as far as I, an atheist, am concerned.
Aug 14th, 2012 - 03:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There is no God or Allah, etc.
Without that baggage it just comes down to the vandalism of a glass fronted box and the contents: a doll and a book.
So what? No graves were damaged, that would have been despicable.
No need to fear 'something' you cannot see, hear, feel or deduce from science and the intellect of man.
So relax. Nobody is going to hell and nobody is going to heaven or see any of their dead relatives when they, themselves, die. You will be dead. That's it folks.
Make the best of what you have now.
#109 Are you serious? Is your real name Billie in Belfast by any chance?!
Aug 14th, 2012 - 04:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0TWIMC
Aug 14th, 2012 - 06:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Most of the many Anti-Catholic comments in this thread are not just an attempt to ”mock” us Argentineans but a clear indication of blatant religious intolerance.
A lack of respect for the ~5.000.000 British Catholics (most of them ”Anglos”)
And the ~600 Malvinas Catholics ( ~200 of them ”Anglos”)
All this coming from some Brutish turnips baptized and confirmed in and by a religion based on the family values of Henry VIII of England……………..
Chuckle chukle©
El Think
Heterodox dubitative agnostish kind of atheist believer…………
“Heterodox dubitative agnostish kind of atheist believer…………”
Aug 14th, 2012 - 07:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Wordy and meaningless, yep, that's Think alright.
114 Think
Aug 14th, 2012 - 08:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think you're barking up the wrong tree with this one. This has nothing to do with religion, and neither does that plastic dolly draped in Argentine colours. It's a nationalist symbol not a religious one.
And I know what I'm talking about; I had a statue of the Virgin Mary with a halo of blue diamantes when I was seven that I loved way more than my Barbies. I never made the mistake of asking 'forgiveness' from Our Lady when I dropped it though.
No-one here is intolerant to religion. We are fairly intolerant of other people using religion as a stalking horse for political propaganda, and so should you be.
Mystery Solved:
Aug 15th, 2012 - 01:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0” We want to clarify to everybody that we bring the Bible with us and we left at the foot of the Virgin on May 14 when we made the trip to Malvinas, Mr Armando Scevola, Mr Ulises Monzón y Mr Ricardo Lucero (the three former soldiers of the glorious VGM BIM No. 5 Ec), also accompanied us a friend, Elvio Charréun .“
”We were on the islands from 12 to 19 May 2012. This Bible was presented by Viviana, a native of Colonia Paraiso (Entre Rios) and we decided, with the consent of her offer it in honor of our fallen brothers in Malvinas, depositing it at the foot of the Virgin.“
”The vandalism occurred early August, so it is clearly the intention of causing unrest in a time of tense relations between the two governments for the claims of sovereignty.“
”We then communicate and send information, data, photos, etc..to the Committee of Relatives of the Fallen in the Malvinas and South Atlantic Islands to communicate through them to the appropriate our full cooperation to help with the investigation and clarification as soon as possible to know who caused this outrage and lack of respect for the memory of our heroes who guard our land Argentina in the Malvinas Islands.“
”These are the photos we took on 14/05/2012 when we put the Bible at the foot of the shrine of the Virgin of Lujan in Darwin ...”
http://www.salamalvinas.com.ar/
So, the mistery persist, who made this ??
1- A Kelper
2-A tourist (no argentine of course....is not logical)
3- A british soldier
4- A Penguin
place your bets...who could be ? easy right ?
Seems to me if they had any respect for their fallen “heroes” they could have at least identified them and taken them home with them. Why the Islanders give a shit about them is beyond me.
Aug 15th, 2012 - 01:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0@106 “Melon” “Shots” WTF! you are watching too many films “El Rambo”
Aug 15th, 2012 - 01:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0again argtards proving their lack of irrational thought, still they deny that its possible for an argentine to have commited the act, with their “holy than thou, so special cemetery, blah blah”, very poor explaination indeed.
is blatant denial and fabrication part of The Argentine genetic makeup? [that maybe a forgone conclusion]
im not saying an argentine did it, for all i know rabid mongolians did it, or hardcore north korean ramblers, who knows.
but please SOLIDLY explain why you believe isnt it possible for an argentine to have caused the vandalism?????
any argtards feel free to answer this apparently difficult rational question with a straight answer YES/NO, not one argtard has answered rationally, that figures
or ignore the question completely like “Cant-Think” whos best reponse was “Have a nice life”, strange, how he felt that i needed his permission, is that the dictator in you coming out?
117 so_far
Aug 15th, 2012 - 03:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0Can you please email that information to that useless Malvinas police?
Not wonder 30 kilos of cocaine disappeared inside their own department.
116 Monty69
Aug 15th, 2012 - 04:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0You say:
“...that plastic dolly draped in Argentine colours is a nationalist symbol not a religious one.”
I say:
You mean like that Red Cross on the English flag?
Or that catchy phrase: “God Save the Queen”?
This conversation is now getting extremely silly.
Aug 15th, 2012 - 08:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0Comrade Think, the turnip-farmer is in full spate.
Smashing that glass was a stupid thing to do.............mainly because its given the Argentine squatters some ammunition to use.
They've got nothing else going for their ridiculous “cause”.
ps, what about the white cross on the Danish flag, Think?
Don't be such a pillock.
Yup Muppet. Same Red Cross RG scum set fire to in another of their inane, pointless demonstrations. By the way your little “dolly” escaped undamaged.
Aug 15th, 2012 - 08:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0Looks like the object of your affection is getting a bit frustrated with you now. Why not send for the old duffer or maybe even BK to give you a massage.
Excellent so far, sure the family comission of arg combatientes is sending the fax.
Aug 15th, 2012 - 11:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0And Monty for if you dont know that is the Virgin of Luján, you can read the history of her in post 72, uses the skyblue and white manto because she is the protector of our country and the protector of the arg soldiers that died for Malvinas. There is here a british cemetary in Arg, and surely you can find there the religious symbols and thats of your british customs.
You made this mess, not us.
And as far as I know, you made such an scandal for the foot over a monument (it was not brocken, not painted, etc), where a lot of your politicians, from the olimpics too were making stupid comments, we can do the same when you commit vandalism.
@117 so_far
Aug 15th, 2012 - 11:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0Interesting article on that site describing how the Malvinas myth was cooked up and rolled out to the punters in the 1930s.
http://www.lagazeta.com.ar/historia_de_malvinas.htm#08
117 so_far
Aug 15th, 2012 - 12:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My money is on 4)!
Penguins have sharp beaks after all, and the little dolly could have attracted its' ire or passion.
LOL!
121 Think
Aug 15th, 2012 - 01:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes. That's why we don't get unduly upset when your flag burning idiots set fire to a union flag, and we don't regard failing to sing 'God save the queen' as an insult to a deity. We're a secular society with a Christian heritage. And?
124 malen
I don't intend to get into an argument about religion with you. I am not religious myself, although I was brought up in the Catholic faith and understand it as well as you do. I am in no way anti- religious and respect your right to believe whatever you wish.
I hope you can see the difference between a state sponsoring and applauding (and filming) and act of disrespect to the fallen of a war, and an act of random vandalism by persons unknown.
You don't know who smashed that glass and neither do I. However, given that your first theory, that the bible and the note were faked by islanders, proved to be utter rubbish, I'm inclined to see who gains from this and draw my own conclusions.
I can already imagine the distorted story of this event will be writen soon by individuals as Graham Pascoe, Peter Pepper, David Barrow or even Roger Lorten, pretty well know liers englishman that no country in earth believe on them and their “work”, only for pervert domestic consumption .... and not for all, because educated people in the UK and the Islands do not eat that crap. Theres proof that wise people think different.
Aug 15th, 2012 - 01:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0125 HansNiesund
Thanks for sharing the article, really good. We all know the real story. I told you earlier, it is a pity that you have chosen not believe the truth wich huge evidence of the usurpation of Argentine territory. Maybe it's because you belong to one of the groups mentioned above? I do not know.
117 Marcos,
The Police of the Islands already knows very well the story, even should know exactly who it was ... but the question is ..... what can we expect from the islands?
“A 69 year old local male stood trial in the Supreme Court charged with four counts of rape committed against children under the age of 13 spanning a number of years from 1976 to 1992, and one count of indecent assault. He was found not guilty on one of the charges and the jury was unable to reach a verdict on the remaining charges”
http://www.falklands.gov.fk/assembly/documents/193-10.pdf
128 so_far
Aug 15th, 2012 - 03:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What you can 'expect from the islands' is that people don't get put in prison unless there is the evidence to convict them.
If the police had any evidence, for the vandalism that is, they would arrest someone. Unless of course the person in question is no longer in the islands.
I ought to warn you that smashing a piece of glass will not result in much of a punishment, even if they do catch someone. I'd guess a community service order or a small fine?
As for the '69 year old man', he is now in prison and will likely die there. Further witnesses came forward as a result of that trial, he was tried and convicted. Do you still have a point?
@128 - so far & @120 - marcos
Aug 15th, 2012 - 03:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina is the last country on earth to be pointing fingers at other countries police forces. Here is a selection of story's about your police force.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/libertycentral/2011/aug/29/police-brutality-argentina-press
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/libertycentral/2011/aug/29/police-brutality-argentina-press
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/libertycentral/2011/aug/29/police-brutality-argentina-press
Hardly stalwart upright citizens, are they? And this is just the tip of the iceberg.
People are innocent until PROVEN guilty in British territory, like the Falkland Islands, and they can't bribe their way out of trouble, like in Argentina.
This deed was despicable, but let's put it in perspective. It was a bit of glass in front a a graven idol (banned under Gods law - but if you guys want a one way ticket to hell keep worshipping it), not an attack against the graves of the war dead.
Your president has already embarrassed your country over this matter on the international stage, she doesn't require your help to increase that embarrassment.
(127) Monty96
Aug 15th, 2012 - 03:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You say:
“We're a secular society with a Christian heritage.”
I say:
So are we.
You say:
”I hope you can see the difference between a state sponsoring and applauding (and filming) and act of disrespect to the fallen of a war, and an act of random vandalism by persons unknown.“
I say:
Nobody disrespected any ”Fallen on a War”
That VICTORY monument in Puerto Stanley commemorates just that....
A military fraticidal VICTORY by one European colonial power (Britain) over their cousins of another European colonial power (Germany), on a place where neither of them had or has any right to be...
You say:
“ I ought to warn you that smashing a piece of glass will not result in much of a punishment, even if they do catch someone. I'd guess a community service order or a small fine”
I say:
Smashing THAT PARTICULAR piece of glass would arguably range as a hate crime under British Law, with quite severe consequences for the responsible person(s).
And as we all know, the Malvinas are still a British Overseas Territory under British Law....
@131 -Think
Aug 15th, 2012 - 04:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Where are these 'malvinas'? They do not appear on any map. Do you mean the Maldives?
A war memorial is a sacred site, it may have the word 'victory' or 'victorious' upon it (most British war memorials do) but it's still dedicated to those who fell in battle, therefore some Argentine munter jumping all over it is more sacraligious than a bit of broken glass.
I know that the Argentine government has no respect for the dead, even Argentine dead, but we British do. It is time for these fallen Argentine soldier's to be returned to Argentina with full military honours. This will prevent your government p!ssing on their memory at every opportunity in order to try and score a few cheap political points.
The problem is, of course, is that the British and Falkland Islanders have respected and looked after the Argentine war dead far more than they would be if they were laid to rest in Argentine soil, and the families of the fallen know this. But in order to prevent further Argentine governmental disrespect of the dead, the international red cross should disinterr them and return them to Argentina. Then your Government can put its money where it's mouth is and respect and look after them 'properly'.
BTW in Britain smashing a bit of glass, even in front of a graven idol or religious symbol, isn't a hate crime unless the Crown could prove that it was motivated by hate of graven idols or religious symbolism. Intent has to be proven. Therefore, it's a bit of broken glass, which would mean a fine and a slap on the wrist if the perpetrator is caught.
Only TMBOA would make such a fuss over a bit of broken glass. Only TMBOA would embarrass her country by not waiting for the outcome of the investigation. Only TMBOA would p!ss and sh!t all over the memories of the Argentine War Dead.
132 LEPRecon
Aug 15th, 2012 - 04:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But you must remember that 'I don't Think' aka The Turnip in Chief is so anxious to pour approbation on the Brits, he will twist and turn everything that he can.
I blame having to use an old French wrist watch, hacked by the Ruskies into a Navigayors' watch, from 1955 without it ever being serviced! But he does know the true time - twice a day.
What can you expect from the Turnip in Chief?
LOL
@128 so_far
Aug 15th, 2012 - 04:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm all for evidence, so_far. Show me some. All I'm seeing so far is a relic of 1930s populist dummygoogery which has somehow managed to survive into the 21st century despite all evidence, reason, and common sense. But I guess the amount of googery you can get away with is a function of the number of dummies you have.
131 Think
Aug 15th, 2012 - 05:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think you'd have a tough job proving this was a hate crime. It could just have easily been someone who wanted to get that bible inside out of the rain.
And we are not 'under British law'. We have our own laws.
Perhaps the childish Argentinian muppet would like the British to extend their hate laws to the Argentina. The Kirchner bitch would have to build a few more prisons. Have a word muppet.
Aug 15th, 2012 - 05:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0135 Monty69
Aug 15th, 2012 - 06:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You say “..we are not 'under British law'. We have our own laws”
What the official site of Falkland Island Gov say about ?
“The Falkland Islands are a United Kingdom Overseas Territory by choice. Supreme authority is vested in Her Majesty The Queen and exercised by a Governor on her behalf..”
“The role of the Governor.... is the representative of HM the Queen in the Islands, and represents the UK Government..”
“..Legislative Assembly is empowered to pass legislation for the peace, order and good government of the Falkland Islands, subject to the approval of Her Majesty the Queen..”
http://www.falklands.gov.fk/Government.html
I suggest you to learn a bit more about you own place...
@137 - so far
Aug 15th, 2012 - 06:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You obviously don't understand British and British overseas laws. Hence your inability to understand what is being said.
The Queen is Head of State. That means that ultimately the 'buck' stops with her. However, British Overseas Territories have their own laws and government that are based on English Civil Law but which take into account the local customs, traditions and individuality of the people in those territories.
The Governor is the Queens representative. His powers are two-fold: to ensure that democratic rule continues in the BOT hence the 'subject to approval', which in most cases is a simple rubber stamp job. For instance if the FIG wanted to bring in a law that removed freedom of the press or freedom of expression, then the governor can block its implementation. He is also an independant legal authority that can be appealed to in cases of civil and criminal cases. He can also refer any civil and legal case to the Law Lords in the House of Lords or even directly to Her Majesty who is the highest legal authority in Britain and BOTs.
Interestingly, the Queen holds the same function in Britain and other countries of which she is Head of State. No new law can be passed without Her assent, again to defend democracy and the people against unscrupulous politicians.
It's a pity Argentina doesn't have a similar safeguard.
138 LEPRecon (#)
Aug 15th, 2012 - 06:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You say
“You obviously don't understand British and British overseas laws..”
and
“..the Queen holds the same function in Britain..... No new law can be passed without Her assent, again to defend democracy and the people against unscrupulous politicians.”
Let´s see again what FIG say about in this official site...
“ The Legislative Assembly is empowered to pass legislation for the peace, order and good government of the Falkland Islands, subject to the approval of Her Majesty the Queen...”
“..All members are elected as independents, as there are no political parties. There is no formal opposition...”
http://www.falklands.gov.fk/assembly/
freedoom ??
own laws ??
oposittion from other policital parties ?
democracy ??
The same advice....I suggest you to learn a bit more about FIG gov..
http://www.falklands.gov.fk/assembly/
139 so_far
Aug 15th, 2012 - 07:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are either so bigoted that you cannot understand / want to understand the simple facts already on this site.
OR you are so stupid.
Perhaps you should consider changing your tag to something more appropriate such as - 'so far wrong'.
139 so_far
Aug 15th, 2012 - 07:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You appear to be saying that Britain isn't a democracy, because the Queen has to give her assent to laws passed by parliament. Is that what you meant?
(135) Monty96
Aug 15th, 2012 - 07:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You say:
I think you'd have a tough job proving this was a hate crime. It could just have easily been someone who wanted to get that bible inside out of the rain.
I say:
That will be an easy job for our lawyer, if and when they catch “Mr. Bog” and “Mr. Monster”
And......., my dear Monty 96.....You Kelpers are all subjects to the English Common Law legal system ......
You may have some “own” rules and regulations about taxes, immigration and recycling.......... but you ARE subjects to English Common Law.
If you don't believe me, ask somebody who knows.
@142 - Think
Aug 15th, 2012 - 08:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You're talking out of your arse about things you don't understand. English Common Law and English Civil (as in Civilian) Law are 2 completely seperate things.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_law_(legal_system)
The Falklands Islands have laws BASED on English Civil Law. The key word here is BASED. As in the base, the starting point, the beginning - not the end.
You'd be surprised how many countries in the world have legal systems BASED on the English system.
Little things like:
Innocent until proven guilty -introduced by King Henry II
Judged by 12 jurors - introduced by King Henry II
A person can't be forced to testify against themselves.
You know, stuff that most, if not all democratic countries in the world use.
The Falklanders have more independence from the UK than an Argentine province has from the Federal government, especially financial independence. Tell me, how are the law suits going against the Federal government for not delivering the promised funds to the provinces?
Face it Think, you're talking complete bollocks.
However back to the thread. Perhaps you should wait until the outcome of the investigation (the Falklands police unlike the Argentine police don't accept bribes, torture prisoners, kidnap and then murder them), before pointing fingers.
If it turns out to be a Falklander or Brit they'll be punished under the law. If it turns out to be an Argentine, then a request to have them extradited will be made to the Argentine government, whilst at the same time telling the world and demanding an apology from TMBOA directly to the Falkland Islands Government and it's people, plus an apology to the relatives of all the Argentine war dead.
To all above.
Aug 15th, 2012 - 09:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Queen has no personal powers to assent or refuse assent. She follows the advice given to her. When she signs a bill into law she is not making a personal decision. She has no power to veto a bill.
LEPRecon,
It's English Common Law, not English Civil Law. I think you may be confusing the contrast between Common Law systems and Civil Law systems and the contrast between Civil Law and Criminal Law. Many British and former British countries and territories have adopted a Common Law system,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_law
whereas many others have adopted a Civil Law system. eg Argentina
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_law
(see sources section)
so_far
It is not necessary to have political parties to have an opposition. Members of the FI Lesislative Assembly will support or oppose proposed legislation on an individual basis. Also, there are public meetings where the views of the public on proposed legislation and government policy are gauged.
Think,
Some countries adopting the English Common Law system and then adding to it or amending it is no different from other countries adopting a Civil Law system and adding the Roman Civil code or Napoleonic code or some other civil code or different bits of those codes either directly into their own Civil codes or using them as influences and adding to them or amending them. All it means in both cases is that they had a ready made set of laws, and thus saved their legislative bodies the time of having to debate and pass laws on each subject.
Adopting a legal system that originated in another country does not mean being subject to current legislation from that other country.
141 Monty69
Aug 15th, 2012 - 10:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Democracy is a form of government in which all eligible citizens have an equal say in the decisions that affect their lives....”
Everybody knows that nobody choose or vote actual and future Malvinas governor....FACT
“A democratic government contrasts to forms of government where power is either held by one, as in a monarchy...”
Everybody knows that the head of everything in Malvinas is the Queen...a monarchy......FACT
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy
By definitiion UK is not a democracy....is an strange and weird thing, you should know already my friend.
144 DB
“..It is not necessary to have political parties to have an opposition...”
yes...sure, you can be a opposition in Falkalnds Corp and you see where you will finish...ask MLA Emma Edwards if is possible to have different point of view.
145 so_far
Aug 16th, 2012 - 12:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0You're either a complete idiot or a troll.
Neither the Queen nor the Governor have anything to do with the running of the internal affairs of the Falkland Islands, which 'everybody knows' apart from you.
Quite apart from which none of this is any of your business.
146 Monty,
Aug 16th, 2012 - 12:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0ofically FIG site say another thing....Educate yourself
http://www.falklands.gov.fk/Government.html
You are or naive or simply ignorant.
And yes is Argentina,s businness your very squatting presence in stolen territorries.
147 so_far
Aug 16th, 2012 - 01:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0Don't you dare presume to tell me how the political system in my country works. I work with it every single day.
The laws all say 'the Governor in council will.....', and what it actually means is 'the executive council will...' because that's the way the constitution works.
Have you ever seen the Queen open parliament in the UK? When she reads out the laws that her government are going to enact that session? Do you think she makes them all up herself? No.
Well that's how it works here too. Our elected representatives decide policy, the government turns it into legislation and the governor gets his name put on it.
I'm guessing that's a bit complicated for your peabrain to understand.
Well never mind; we'll have a referendum soon and then we'll be able to throw of this opressive form of government and replace it with your shining beacon of democracy.
Ok Monty.....i got it now.....the Law say one thing and you lot do another ?
Aug 16th, 2012 - 01:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0I really love brits
:)
Monty69 wrote“Don't you dare presume to tell me how the political system in my country works”
Aug 16th, 2012 - 04:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0Mr so_far
Don't you dare to tell those Brits in Malvinas how their political system works.
They don't have a clue.
Some years ago their beloved newspaper did an experiment with this creatures.
”How much do Islanders know about Malvinas(real name)“
”27.5% thought we were still a Colony, 10% believed us to be a Dependent Territory and 5% thought we were a County“
”Council confusionThe second question generated some interesting answers. We asked you to name four of the eight Falkland(Malvinas) Islands Legislative councillors“
”The rest of you either didn't have a clue or confidently named the following - The Carpet Man, The Woman From Camp, Roger Spink, Mike Luxton, June Clark (“The woman that develops the photos”) Tony Chater (“If he isn't then he should be”) Joe King, Arthur Turner, Fred Simpson, Cyril Ellis, Burned Peck and Roger Spink”
http://en.mercopress.com/2002/09/30/how-much-do-islanders-know-about-falklands
@Think(turnip-in-chief), so_far & of course, who could forget deeeear Marcos.
Aug 16th, 2012 - 08:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0Our laws, our Governor, our government & our Queen are nothing to do with you.
They are none of your nosey business.
We will do what we like in OUR country & you can keep your interfering selve OUT.
Shoo, begone, vamoose, get lost.
And for your personal information, sr so_far,
the Falkland lslands are NOT & have NEVER been & NEVER will be Argentine territory. Thank you so much.
ldiots
#130 “a one way ticket to hell”
Aug 16th, 2012 - 09:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0Again I ask, do really mean this stuff or are you just rying to wind up the Catholics?
#133 I think it was Lenin who said a stopped watch is right twice a day =)
#150 Marcos
Aug 16th, 2012 - 10:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0:)))
Dear Monty is an authentic bennie....i like her
150 Marcos Alejandro
Aug 16th, 2012 - 10:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0''Arthur Turner, Fred Simpson, Cyril Ellis, Burned Peck and Roger Spink”
Hahahaha......you really are a humourless little twerp aren't you. That's really funny and you don't even know it. Why would you? You don't know anything about the Falkland Islands and you never will.
Close the cemetery and let mother nature take over. The honourable way in which you acted is obviously lost on the Argentines, you did the right thing and now you are being shit on for it. Lock it up or bulldoze it, maybe then the residents can rest in peace.
Aug 16th, 2012 - 11:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0152 Blind_Scottie_Kirchner
Aug 16th, 2012 - 11:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0Are you saying that your hero said it first?
Be careful how you answer.
154 Monty69 (#)
Aug 16th, 2012 - 02:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0only in this tread you write to others (incluiding myself) :
1- idiot
2- troll
3- peabrain
4- twerp
What happend girl ? is not usal on you that vocabulary......you´re almost matching the level the others well know animals living there and in the UK .
Think about it buddy. No argentine insult you back so far....
157 so_far
Aug 16th, 2012 - 02:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0''You are or naive or simply ignorant.''
''your very squatting presence''
''All this coming from some Brutish turnips''
Any of this ring any bells with you?
I can't even be bothered to remind you of the times when you called our police corrupt and incompetent and our government worthless, all of which are insults of the highest order and you know it.
Everything you post is an insult; you intend it that way, and that's how it is received.
It isn't using lighthearted banter that makes someone an 'animal'. It's the underlying intent to destroy the way of life of an entire community that you and your little pals treat as a game.
Think about that, 'buddy'. I'll stop calling you names if you like, but only when you start paying us the courtesy of researching your facts properly and stop posting nonsense. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt here. I'm assuming you post rubbish because you don't know any better.
If you're posting lies and misinformation on purpose to make us look bad, then you deserve everything you get. There will be no mercy.
Monty...i know some things sometimes could be hard to receive or to heard, but i only propose you the truth.
Aug 16th, 2012 - 03:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sorry if that could offend you. I try allways to backup what i say with evidence and avoiding using nasty words as insulting others with apelatives (stupid, idiot, troll, imbecile, twerp, argtard, etc.etc.),
Thats all dear squatter.
Hey ! thats not insulting is the true darling ....look your passport....why you´re biritish citizen living in Argentine soil ?
:)
The expressions, words and name-giving used by some of the (supposed) British subjects who post here, show me, once again, the strong declination of traditional British gentlemanship - once upon a time an English pride - possibly due to post-war lack of proper home raising, unstable families, class mobility, uncontrolled immigration, and an overall relax in the use of the English language.
Aug 16th, 2012 - 03:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0.
The Carpet Man is right, that's John Birmingham who was a councillor at the time. 57.5% were right, 37.5% were a bit behind the times, as we have been defined as both in the past, and 5% were looking to the future.
Aug 16th, 2012 - 03:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The thing is that if the majority of the population are happy with the way the current system of government is set up then that's democracy in itself. If there was a large percentage unhappy with it they would soon let themselves be known.
(160) Argie…
Aug 16th, 2012 - 04:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are quite right…
True Britishness is, nowadays confined to places like the Hurlingham Club in Buenos Aires and its lesser version in London…….
Damn social mobility….. ;-)
(161) Benson
You are quite right too….. but:
It is kind of scary having a relatively well educated British squatterette (Oxford, if I remember correctly), a moderately adequate fly-fisherwoman and a good ex-catholic as Ms. Monty96 not knowing which law she is subject to as an inhabitant of a British Colony aka British Overseas Territory……
162 Think
Aug 16th, 2012 - 04:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm shocked and appalled. What a baseless and unnecessary insinuation to make.
Anyway, my learned friends answered your question about FI law. I have nothing to add.
(163) Monty96
Aug 16th, 2012 - 05:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Baseless insinuation???
Your Kelper Double Haul is appalling, my dear.....
That's a fact.
Please learn from a master:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcE-9WPuZ04
@160 @163
Aug 16th, 2012 - 05:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My goodness, gentlemen, next thing you'll be lamenting the passing of the British Empire.
Although it is rather a shame that our civilizing mission found such barren ground in Sourh America. But never mind, we still have one small outpost to serve as a good example.
@165 indeed.
Aug 16th, 2012 - 06:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0what's interesting to note is that the majority of territories that used to comprise the British empire now voluntarily maintain in political association with us and some of them are among the most developed, democratic and lovely places in the world...
...compare that to the spanish empire, a bunch of politically unstable hegemonies in south and central america run by thugs and thieves (and Chile, which seemed nice last time I visited) plus western sahara and equatorial guinea (a hilarious story in itself). Yeah, looks like spain's imperial legacy is pretty backward and crappy when it comes to the development level of her former territories innit
@ 162 iro 160
Aug 16th, 2012 - 06:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Hurlingham Club used to be a place whose members were English railways' managers and directors and officers of other British concerns established in Argentina,say, Tabacal. English was spoken there between members, mainly because they didn't speak the local language. Theirs was Victorian English.
With the passing of time, these people moved back to Britain or died and only what we call 'the Anglos' remained. English is still spoken there, but not as exclusively as it was in the 'golden age' of the British investments in Argentina.
Apparently, the British government recently had to recruit Indians and Paki (!) teachers for your schools, as, in their view, the local ones had their English so corrupted that they weren't teaching actual English but the current lingo! Or so I was informed. May I apologise if my information is, in any way, wrong?
My English has also its snags and grammar problems, so I'd stop here
;-D
164 Think
Aug 16th, 2012 - 06:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh that...no, can't do fly fishing at all. I prefer to bludgeon them to death with a 12g Toby and a very heavy line.
No, I was referring to...shhh...'the other University'.
Actually I don't give two hoots about any of that elitist crap. I'm all 'working class hero', damn social mobility ;-)
(168) Monty 96
Aug 16th, 2012 - 07:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I was pulling your leg with Oxford…
It worked........
It always does with the “Elite”…. :-)
But I was “fishing” about some fishing info….
A 12 gr.Toby and Ø 0.25 monofilament huhhhhhh?
You’r right lass….., you bludgeon them to death……, may as well use dynamite :-)
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Aug 17th, 2012 - 02:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Reading all the bible is part of the investigation????apart from huellas dactilares....How long do you estimate it takes to arrive to an hipotetical clue about the bible???
Aug 17th, 2012 - 10:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@159 so_far,
Aug 18th, 2012 - 07:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0You are the squatter, so_far.
You are living on native people's soil.
Only thing is that there are not many natives left because you Argentines murdered them.
This is NOT Argentine soil, never has been & never will be.
You must be mistaken(l wouldn't call you a liar!).
Please do some research and as you Argentines are fond of saying “educate yourself”.
Thank you, so_far.
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