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Argentina again conditions contract to deep-dredge River Plate access canal

Monday, August 13th 2012 - 05:58 UTC
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Foreign Minister Hector Timerman said that Argentina “is ready to sign” the deep dredging of the River Plane access canal Martin Garcia but warned that before doubts generated by Uruguay’s National Auditing Office regarding the performance of dredgers’ Riovía during the tender process, must be resolved. Read full article

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  • LEPRecon

    Argentina to Uruguay.

    “of course we'll 'honour' our commitment to dredge the channel. But there's this little investigation thing to do 1st, involving an Argentine company being corrupt, and we simply MUST put everything on hold until we can spend the next 10 years 'investigating' the matter. We're sure you understand.”

    Argentina behind Uruguays back.
    “JA JA JA. We'll keep this tied up in red tape for years, so our ports have NO competition.”

    Aug 13th, 2012 - 06:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    Funny thing Lep, is that you Brits seem to be more upset than us Uruguayans :)

    Aug 13th, 2012 - 07:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    @2 - Guzz

    For a 'Uruguayan' you don't seem upset enough. Argentina has been constantly screwing your country over for years, and is continuing to do it.

    But then you 'aren't' really Uruguayan are you? Sometimes you forget your supposed to be from Uruguay and your real nationality shows through - Argentine.

    Uruguay needs to cede from the treaty and get the dredging done themselves, it'll be quicker and cheaper in the long run.

    Aug 13th, 2012 - 08:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    Sure, that way Argentina gets all the benefits without paying, its a shared river, remember? Are you sure you aren't Argentinian?

    Aug 13th, 2012 - 08:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Frank

    Deep water port anyone?

    Aug 13th, 2012 - 09:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • War Monkey

    @2 Guzz (#)
    Aug 13th, 2012 - 07:26 am

    This is the 21st century Guzz, progressive, civilised nations like the UK don't like bullying and you are NOT a Uruguayan. You might live there but I'll wager you don't see yourself as a Uruguayan. You say you are on here just to score points but you've slipped up before now and admitted what you really are. An Argentinean and a Malvinista.

    Aug 13th, 2012 - 11:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard2

    #1 “of course we'll 'honour' our commitment to dredge the channel.”

    It's not as if Argentina do the dredging.
    In parliamentary parlance this is filibuster leading to it being 'talked-out'. The Agreement is explicit that this should NOT happen.Power-politics (realpolitik) masquerading as democratic legal process.
    Disgusting behaviour.

    Aug 13th, 2012 - 12:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • PirateLove

    Argtard blackmail,corruption and threats....it never gets old!
    maybe uruguay should cut a deal with the world bank after all they are a developing country to fund a deep coastal port bypassing argtards economic strangle hold, at the same time lease out an airbase in the south to the UK until the UK carriers are ready ,kills three birds with one stone it protects uruguays border against any retalliation from the Argentines, and a perfect place for the UK to launch a defencive strike against Arg interests if the need should arise, plus extra funds towards Uruguays deep sea port maybe a valuable trading port with FI in the future when the black stuff starts to flow,would be a bonus.
    unlikely but just a thought.

    Aug 13th, 2012 - 01:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Millet

    The Olympics are over, Argentina where are your gold metals?

    Aug 13th, 2012 - 02:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    As I have mentioned before, it is my belief that argieland is in breach of the relevant treaty. It seems strange that argieland could dredge the Canal Emilio Mitre to a depth of 36 feet in 2006 but refused to do the same for the Canales a Martin Garcia. It's obviously standard argie dishonesty. How to overcome it? The start would seem to be to get rid of wimpish, senile, old president. Why has the “dispute” been going on for over ten years? Could Uruguay start by repudiating the treaty because of argieland's breaches? And then dredge the channel itself? The treaty provides for disputes to be settled by the ICJ. But would that course be quick enough? Doesn't Uruguay need to get this done this year or next year? What could argieland do if Uruguay went ahead and dredged the channel itself?

    Aug 13th, 2012 - 03:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (2) Guzz
    Primero que nada, buenos dias…….

    This is a complicated issue, ,and, as usual when corruption is involved, everybody has a different version about the ”Why’s”, the ”Who’s” and the ”How’s”……

    But I have noticed a ”little discrepancy”………:

    MercoPress tells us in two different articles (http://en.mercopress.com/2012/08/07/uruguay-reacts-with-silence-to-repeated-argentine-provocations) and (http://en.mercopress.com/2012/08/07/uruguay-reacts-with-silence-to-repeated-argentine-provocations)

    …..about a “DUTCH/ARGENTINE” company called “RIOVIA” that attempted to bribe Uruguayan politicians and civil servants………………..

    Let’s Google this ”RIOVIA” company……………….............., shall we... ?

    Click..., click...., cklickiliclick..., cliclick....., Enter...............:

    http://en.mercopress.com/2012/08/07/uruguay-reacts-with-silence-to-repeated-argentine-provocations)
    About Us: Riovia S.A. is the concessionaire of the dredging works, buoying, maintenance, the administration, and toll collection in the Martin Garcia Channel.
    The company was established in Uruguay in 1996 and its head office is situated in the city of Colonia del Sacramento.
    Riovia S.A. is a subsidiary of the world's most important dredging company: BOSKALIS INTERNATIONAL B.V., from the Netherlands.”

    Oooooooooooooooooooops….................
    What happened with the ”DUTCH/ARGENTINE “ company...? ! ?

    Miracously it transmuted into an ”URUGUAYAN/DUTCH” company, established in URUGUAY and based in URUGUAY.......

    Well….. I don’t know about you…., but to me it seems that the ”Argentinean Dimension” in this ”International Bribe Scandal” has, somehow, diluted a bit……..

    No pasarán
    El Think

    Aug 13th, 2012 - 04:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brit Bob

    Seems that the Tin man is warning Uruaguay. Interesting to note that Argentina is the World's top protectionist country and that Argentina has more international trade disputes running than any other country in the World.

    This says something about the calibre of the people actually running Argentina.

    Another fact about South American solidarity - The UK is the number two outside investor in Brazil - Brazil only pays lip service to Argentine 'Malvinas bleets'.

    Aug 13th, 2012 - 04:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    #6 “This is the 21st century Guzz, progressive, civilised nations like the UK don't like bullying”

    If only t'were true! Iraq ring a bell?!

    Aug 13th, 2012 - 04:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @13 Does 1982 ring a bell? How about 2003 to 2012? Another undeclared argie war. Why do the words “argie”, “argieland”, “argentine” and “argentina” make me want to vomit? Her Sluttishness, the botox-filled, fat, ugly, whining, corrupt, criminal slag has much the same effect. But that's understandable. The “name” evokes an image. And the result is an overwhelming urge to up-chuck. I have this ambition to spew on her face and improve it!

    Aug 13th, 2012 - 04:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • PirateLove

    @13 saddam used nerve gas on 3000 northern kurds men,women, and children with his weapons of mass destruction.
    he invaded kuwait wholesale killing and raping on tour, threatening other neighbouring countries with his weapons of mass destruction.
    saddam commited genocide ,saddam was lynched!

    out of interest do any of these acts above ring your bell?

    Aug 13th, 2012 - 05:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    One way or another Uruguay has got to get out from under Argentina’s boot.

    If they are to stand any chance at all of developing to their potential.

    Aug 13th, 2012 - 05:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @11 'I don't Think' aka The Turnip in Chief

    Another stunning obfuscation and attempt on your part to deflect attention from the real problem which is the graft and corruption by the Argentinos on CARP who are getting backhanders to employ Riovia on 'extensions' to the existing contract.

    Why are extensions required? Because Timmidman is up to his old tricks and knows full well that delays can only assist Argentina in stymieing Uruguay in their need to fully load the bulkers that use the Martin Garcia channel.

    Also, extensions to the contract ensure that the kickbacks continue to the Argies at the expense to Uruguay who have to pay for their end on the contract. So Uruguay ends up paying graft to the Argies.

    If only this bunch of crooks in Argentina paid the same attention to the economy of the country as they do to lining their own pockets things would not be so dire for the Argentinean people.

    But hey, what do you care, you have your old French/Ruskie watch to play with.

    Aug 13th, 2012 - 06:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • SussieUS

    @14
    I think the same about you: a war criminal, fat, short, bold headed, impotent, sarcastic with dripping saliva and passing stinking farts 24 hrs. daily...Piuuuu....
    Typical british!

    Aug 13th, 2012 - 07:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brit Bob

    The tin man is back in his confort zone talking about dredging...

    He's taking a rest from spinning 'The Great Malvinas Lie'.

    Aug 13th, 2012 - 07:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    As well as the banishment of British ships from their ports (ha ha, an inneffectua lmeasure that loses them money-lol), it seems the Argentines want to in effect ban ships from Uraguayan ports.
    Would laugh heartily if after a few years the Falkland Islands end up with a great port facility, and end up with much shipping business after CFK bans them all from Argentina.

    Aug 14th, 2012 - 12:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • BLACK CAT

    Hey were did Guzz go?

    Aug 14th, 2012 - 05:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    I'm here BC. I'll reply as soon as any of you type something relevant to the matter, something coherent or even something that is true...

    Aug 14th, 2012 - 06:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • BLACK CAT

    Ok here goes - Your an Argentinian living in BA

    Aug 14th, 2012 - 09:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @18 Strange. That's much the way I picture you. Although you have the other features of mammaries consisting of flaps hanging to your knees, two lower “orifices” distended to the point where they are like combined wind tunnels and echo chambers (never say no, eh?), constantly dripping male fluids from every conceivable “orifice”, leaving a trail like a slug. Frequently blocking the Colorado River by sitting in it. Can't comment on the farts. But I presume you have your own personal “exclusion zone” except for those wearing gas masks. A typical female argie slob!

    Aug 14th, 2012 - 01:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Simon68

    So apparently Riovia S. A. is an Urugyan company, so thereyou have the answer Pepe, nationalize the buggers and that way YOU get the backhanders from Timerman et al and YOU decide where you are going to dredge.
    This is a win-win situation if ever there was one!!!!

    Aug 14th, 2012 - 04:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @25 Pepe wouldn't dare. CFK would demand that he present himself in BA for a good ball-kicking. If he still has any! You may be able give some guidance. Mujica has been Uruguayan pansy......sorry, president since 1 March 2010. A little over 2 years. How many times has he stood up to CFK? How many times has he stood up to CFK and won?

    Aug 14th, 2012 - 06:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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