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Cristina Fernandez calls workers and companies to be “more rational”
Argentine President Cristina Fernández said on Tuesday that there has always been “clashes and discussions” between companies and their workers but called on both parties to be “rational enough since they need each other in order to avoid collapsing, something we all experienced during the 2002 crisis.” Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesRational!!! thats rich, good luck finding an argentine with rational thought.
Aug 15th, 2012 - 10:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0Rational?
Aug 15th, 2012 - 10:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0Hello Pot, this is Kettle, send colour status, over!
@1 You're forgetting! What she means is “argie-rational”. That's a whole different ball-game. “argie-rational” means think what CFK tells you think. Celebrate the growing prosperity of the country as money becomes worth less every day, don't mind the power cuts and the shortage of heating fuel. Look at the new shoe factories that close down once or twice a week because of power cuts, the John Deere tractors and harvesters you can't afford. The president argued that a country that helps people to have jobs and dignity contributes to happiness, “which at the end of the day is the objective of any government”. As well as stealing. Oh, that's just an argie government. Argieland's chairs are now wonderful. They have 3 legs and don't collapse until you sit on them a second time.
Aug 15th, 2012 - 10:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0In breaking news: I went down to a local IKEA store last year, bought a flat-pack bookcase, took it home and assembled it. Aren't I wonderful?
This female is out of her tiny mind. Somebody needs to put it out of our misery!
all that i can put it down to is Cocaine must be one,two and three of 5 a day in Argentina, helps keep the peasants in line and would explain the lack of reality at the top.
Aug 15th, 2012 - 11:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0Be rational and lets talk about our claim on the RG continental shelf which is all ours!!!!
Aug 15th, 2012 - 11:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Spending on food is 4 times more than what is in the INDEC” (Clarin)
Aug 15th, 2012 - 12:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you dont say, i guess the books are the only things being cooked in argentina!
CFK is delusional. She thinks people should “pull together” for the good of the country? Is that what I should take away from this?
Aug 15th, 2012 - 12:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So what she really means is that “THE PEOPLE” should take a lower wage increase than true inflation. Hmm probably 40% food inflation and a 20% something wage increase? I don't see that happening,
She must be quaking in her boots as she is just realizing what a mess she is in for....unless it is all part of the plan for Martial Law/Presidenta for Vida when the bloody riots start.
We will know shortly...
@6 Chekc out the article form Cronista (rembering that this is the government mouth piece). It shows the INDEC values for food last month.
Aug 15th, 2012 - 02:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.cronista.com/contenidos/2012/08/14/noticia_0049.html
I can assure you these are complete and utter crap. For example 2.60 for a litre of milk. Its actually around 6 pesos. No wonder no one believes a word they say about inflation. I also think this is the first time she has hinted at the possibilioty of another 2001 style economic crash, but as usualy is trying to blame everyone (workers and employeers) except her failed management of the economics.
UBA and the Universidad de la Plata have said that the daily food spend is around 97 pesos not 24 pesos. Neither of these are evil right wing corporations hell bent on bringing around the destruction of Peronism, Kirchnerism, Nestor's grave, Cristina, her children, her children's tennis partners, their tennis partners, Argentina in general or any form of socialist utopia. They are a copule of state funded universities (UBA def is) who are actually reporting figures based on facts...pipe and smoke it comes to mind.
Aug 15th, 2012 - 02:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 08. My Rg friends on FaceBook have been mocking those prices for days.
Aug 15th, 2012 - 02:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Again the apathy is killing your country. It is sad but deserved.
@10 Not strickly my country. Im Britsh but work here. Might chnage jobs tho, thinking of working within INDEC I wouldnt mind being paid a 6 figure salary to make up numbers.
Aug 15th, 2012 - 02:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I hope you are pad in Pounds and into UK account! I saw that Provinces are threatening to start printing Patacones if they don't get their x-fers from CFK soon.
Aug 15th, 2012 - 02:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Interesting times ahead for you....
@12. Unfortuantly not, paid in an Argentine account in pesos. Althougth my contracted salary is in dollars. I therefore dont really mind if the pesos devalues as my salary would go up. The crap thing is that the pesos should be devalueing but is being artificialy propped up.
Aug 15th, 2012 - 02:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Im leaving in a couple of months becaue of the problems of getting money back home to pay my bills (Which the government here determines as me wanting to have savings in dollars).
@12 there are rumours that any amount being paind into an account outside Argentina and utilisaed inside the coutry will be subject to confiscation at point of entry of the utilisaed funds which will be replaced by pesos at the official exchange rate. I.e. you won't be able to draw money out of the cash point in dollars using a UK debit card for a UK based account as the dollar amount will be taken by the government and replaced by pesos...
Aug 15th, 2012 - 04:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 014 Welsh Wizard (#)
Aug 15th, 2012 - 05:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0At the moment monies transferred to Argentine bank accounts from UK have to be first exchanged into Euros and then into Pesos, this double exchange does wonders to the final amount recieved, about a 17% loss in value!!!!!
the simple poor country folk of Argentina who wish to have nothing to do with their government are the ones who are mainly paying the price, poverty is rising, crime is rising, education suffers all because the failed econmic model and the corrupt argtard peronists continue to feed its people lies(not food) and propaganda as they fill their own pockets, desperatley clinging on to power for maximos coronation to the throne. very sad! she will drag what could of been a great country to the 3rd world abyss before shes done, a great legacy to inherit Maximos!
Aug 15th, 2012 - 05:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Cristina Fernandez calls workers and companies to be “more rational”
Aug 15th, 2012 - 06:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Then thanks them for there undying support over the Falklands lol.
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Aug 15th, 2012 - 08:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Is nice to know one less rubbish bloody english man is soon moving to another country...Your spelling is so poor...Where is Conor Louden-Brown or Isolde to correct his english?
The twelve commandments.
Aug 15th, 2012 - 10:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 01. ...
10. ...
11 Do as I say, not as I do.
12. It doesn't matter as long as you are not caught.
18 Scuzzie US
Aug 16th, 2012 - 01:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Is nice to know” “rubbish bloody english man” !!!!!!!
You dirty little wetback scum, did you learn English from Speedy Gonzalez or Rickie Ricardo??
The U.S. nobel prize laureate in economics, Joseph Stieglitz had a meeting with President Fernandez, and he praised the economic policies of Argentina in comparison to those in Europe and the U.S. (P.S. more Brit banks are getting hauled into New York courts for foul activities...)
Aug 16th, 2012 - 02:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0Never have we seen such corruption in the government here since the Kirchners have been in office. Boudou is the owner of companies (through phantom corporations) that not only print bank notes, but also construct buildings for the government, the argentine airlines and he owns several properties in the most expensive real estate in the entire country. He also is tied to garbage collection contracts and the central bank. The corruption in Argentina has no limits, it is not to be believed, Cristina Kirchner owns hotels, 1000s of hectares of some of the most valuable land in Argenitna (which were federally protected lands) which she magically took title to with her now dead husband Nestor Kirchner. And her sister in law Alicia Kirchner has become owner of vast amounts of land as well. Cristina Kirchner owns 2 hotels “Altos de Calafate” and “Los Sauces Casa Patagonia” some of the most expensive in the country. She owns 28 other properties and has millions of dollars of wealth and is linked to swiss bank accounts. Argentina should be completely avoided for any investment purposes as the tax agency “AFIP” will go to companies and expropriate their property, money and levy fines for any illegal reason. Argentina is the country where government corruption is the normal way things function. The president Cristina Kirchner and the vice president Amado Boudou, are the most corrupt politicians to ever be at the head of Argentina. Their day will come and they will end up in jail with all of their collaborators!
Aug 16th, 2012 - 04:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pk2rxHTrsQ&oref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fresults%3Fsearch_query%3Dassasination%2Bceaucescu%26oq%3Dassasination%2Bceaucescu%26gs_l%3Dyoutube.3...778.7690.0.8011.22.21.0.1.1.0.247.3450.1j12j7.20.0...0.0...1ac.NCo8oKbLYkk
#7 Yeah you really support the workers and their wage claims, that really fits with your other neoliberal ravings. Your opportunism is completely obvious, and you just look stupid
Aug 16th, 2012 - 09:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0#21 =)
#22 Aye right!
BK, your reading comprehension is a bit weak for someone who is pretending to be from the UK. Try reading it again without your blatant Marxist tendencies overriding your thought processes.
Aug 16th, 2012 - 11:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0No where in my statement did I offer any support to the workers.
The only one who looks stupid is you, every day with every post.
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Aug 16th, 2012 - 02:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I guess that's why you have over 100 dead just this year in multiple mass shootings. That's more than in all of Argentina's history.
It's interesting you are worried more about our apathy than the apathy Americans display about these acts of violence, not even one f'ing public rally in demand for more police, or more gun control, or heck even less gun control (let minors have guns, just in case).
It was interesting that I read that in the last year:
- There were more riots in the UK than in Argentina in the last 3 years
- There were more cars burned in France than in Argentina in the last 5 years
- There were more strikes in Spain than in Argentina in the last 2 years
- There were more mass shootings in the USA in 3 months than in ARG in 10 years
- There were more racism attacks in Italy's football than in Argentina in 5 years
- There were more deaths from food poisoning in Germany than in Argentina
So much for the 1st world...
Humility, it's our little experiment of the day!
(as the famous argie add campaign would say)
Toby, Your crime stats are as good as Indec's stats. In the USA we don't live behind 12 foot walls nor have guards on every corner in the nice neighborhoods, we don't hvae to get buzzed in clothing stores like on Santa Fe Ave, typically we don't even have guards in BANKS Gads!
Aug 16th, 2012 - 03:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is much safer to walk in Central Park at night than it is in Plaza San Martin, or walk around the US Congress as compared to Congresso.
You have no idea how dangerous your country is compared to a civilized country because you have never left lonely remote Mendoza.
When I lived there I lived behind gates, had a guard in the front and back of my property that I shared with my neighbors YET there were still commando raids and kidnappings AT LEAST 1X A month within the area!
Go on believing your fantasies but those of us who travel certainly know the truth.
There is a certain delicious irony to the most irrational woman in the whole of the western hemisphere calling on people who have suffered under her astonishing mismanagement to be “more rational” :)
Aug 16th, 2012 - 04:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm neither in the mood or with the time to fight your very distorted views yankee. I've read Lonely planet, where people that have REALLY travelled make their very educated opinions, I'd say 4 in 5 would never describe Argentina like you do, that's a fact. You can hide behind the INDEC fiasco but quite honestly is pathetic, or you think somehow a murder can be hidden from society? Unless you are going to argue now that in Argentina people don't care about their families so if one is killed, or just dissapears, they won't notice. I woudn't put it past you.
Aug 16th, 2012 - 04:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Anyway, all EU nations imposing full austerity have fallen back into recession (UK, Spain, Italy, Portugal)... Greece we won't count they are too far gone. I thought austerity was the key to growth? Unless growth in going backwards counts!
(austerity is good in good times, not in bad times... governments are dumb: they press the gas pedal down the hillside, and then put the brakes on the upside).
What's the point of assenbling John Deere tractors and combines , when , thanks to a very high system of taxes at source ( retenciones ) , no farmer can afford to buy them ?
Aug 16th, 2012 - 05:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hmm I seem to remember a case of murder while I was there.
Aug 16th, 2012 - 05:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Initially the lady was said to be drowned in her bathtub. A few friends and neighbors were suspicious and had her body exhumed only to find several bullet holes in her head..no wonder she drowned! Let's see she also lived in a gated community, with guards and a security system and a maid. I wonder how the coroner, police, judge all missed that?
That's the b/s I am talking about Toby you moron! AND THIS TYPE OF CORRUPTION HAPPENS EVERY MINUTE OF EVERY DAY IN THAT HORRIBLE PLACE!
Or let's try another, bombs going off in various ATMs, reported to US State , Nestor flips out that its on the State travel warning for Arg, has the Ambassador tell State it never happened, State points out various news articles and tells them they aren't changing the warning. Nestor looks like a fool...
Hmm shall I go on...
”(she was unable to travel to Santa Fe because of the intense rain and hail) ”
Aug 17th, 2012 - 05:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0Why? Does the president of Argentina have to walk?
Just to give all of you an idea of inflation and Arg government statements. This week the government announced that a person can eat in Argentina for 6 pesos perday. It is very difficult to find even ONE empanada for 6 pesos. In 2002 you could by one dozen medialunas for 1.99 pesos. Yesterday I saw a special on 12 medialunas for 32 pesos. Any inflation?
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Aug 18th, 2012 - 12:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0Lucky Strike box- 6 pesos, almost double what it was a year ago. Lunch in a seaside restaurant in Mar Del Plata, nothing fancy, just salmon, one bottle of wine, 300 pesos, and that was in winter!
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